Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

[Zack McCune]

Cheers Bachounda & Yaroslav!

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 1:47 PM Mohammed Bachounda 
wrote:

> Thanks Zack,
>
> Hoping that it will boost the project.
>
> Best
>
> Le mer. 5 août 2020 à 20:49, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :
>
> > Thank you Zack for the update, much appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Yaroslav
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28
> to
> > > provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process
> > of
> > > the Brand Project. We shared milestones up until recent events
> including
> > > the RfC, the open letter, and the survey (but not survey results). We
> > also
> > > answered preliminary questions and committed to resolving other
> questions
> > > that come up.
> > >
> > > The brand project team is preparing for our upcoming Board meeting
> where
> > we
> > > will decide next steps. The 2-day in-person Board of Trustees meeting
> > > originally scheduled to coincide with Wikimania in early August, has
> now
> > > been moved to a series of virtual meetings over the last two weeks of
> > > September.
> > >
> > > For reference, the Brand Project team has added the materials that were
> > > shared with the Board of Trustees to our project page. [1]
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > - Zack
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#See_also
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:43 PM Todd Allen 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > And, how might one view it?
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM Zack McCune 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all -
> > > > >
> > > > > A quick update on timing: this Board briefing has been rescheduled
> > for
> > > > July
> > > > > 28th.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > - Zack
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM João Alexandre Peschanski <
> > > > > joa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the update Nataliia. I hope he or she is feeling
> better.
> > > > Best,
> > > > > > João
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Em qua., 8 de jul. de 2020 às 14:44, Nataliia Tymkiv <
> > > > > > ntym...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > > > escreveu:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Hello! Just a quick update: the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > > > Trustees
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > notified by staff on the night of July 7th that the briefing of
> > > July
> > > > > 8th
> > > > > > > needs to be rescheduled because of the illness of one of the
> key
> > > > staff
> > > > > > > members. We are looking for a new date before the August board
> > > > meeting,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > we shall share an updated timeline in a few days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> > > > > > > Vice Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your
> > normal
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> > > weekend.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > > should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off.
> > Thank
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> > > > > in
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

[Samuel Klein]

I applaud this idea. Preferably a language family with a large community of
practice, 'minority' in the sense of coverage and support by modern tools
and scaffolding, not in the sense of limited use.

We used to have a roughly weighted list of major world languages by
(spoken, written; primary, secondary) and how well covered they were by wp
(articles, contributors).  Is there something like that still?

//S



On Wed., Aug. 5, 2020, 3:19 p.m. C. Scott Ananian, 
wrote:

> Sorry I'm coming to this discussion a bit late, but I'd like to underline a
> slightly different aspect of the concern that Phoebe raised:
>
> > It concerns me that, at least in the high-level project proposals I've
> > seen (I haven't been tracking this closely, and haven't read the academic
> > papers) I have not yet seen discussions of ethical data, or how we might
> > think about identifying bias, or even how to recruit contributors and the
> > impact on existing contributors.
> >
>
> Using the terminology of Ibram X. Kendi (and others), I'd put this as:
> "it's not enough to not be racist, you must actively be *anti-racist*."
>
> Abstract Wikipedia is a "color blind" project.  Indeed it is often
> described as advancing WMF goals by improving the amount of content
> available for minority languages.
>
> However, it is built on a huge edifice of ML and AI technology which
> advantages majority languages and the already-powerful.
>
> As Phoebe mentioned, the subtle biases of ML translation toward majority
> views (selecting the "proper" gender pronoun for someone described as a
> "doctor" or "professor", say) are well known, and certainly deserve to be
> foregrounded from the start, as Danny has pledged to do in his response to
> Phoebe.
>
> But the infrastructure of this project is built this way from the ground
> up.  Language models for European languages are orders of magnitude better
> than language models for minority languages (if the latter exist at all).
> The same is true for ontologies and every other constructed abstraction,
> down to choices of what topics are significant enough to include in an
> abstract article---but that ground has been ably covered by Kaldari and
> others.  So let me concentrate solely on language models in the remainder
> (with some parenthetical asides, for which I hope you'll forgive me).
>
> I would like to challenge Abstract Wikipedia not only to be "not racist" or
> "color blind", but to be actively *antiracist*.  That is, instead of
> passively accepting the status quo wrt language models (& etc), to commit
> to actively supporting a language model in *at least one* minority
> language, treating it as a first-class citizen or (better) the *main*
> output of the project.  That means not just looking for "a good enough
> language model that happens not to be a European language" but *actively
> developing the language model* so that the Abstract Wikipedia project *from
> inception* has a positive effect on *at least one* community speaking a
> underrepresented language with a small Wikipedia.  (Again, WLOG this could
> apply to general AI/ML support for many many minority groups, but I'm
> sticking with "at least one" and "language model" in order to make this as
> concrete and actionable as possible.)  This of course also means committing
> to hire a speaker of that non-European language as part of the core team
> (not just an "and translations" afterthought), committing to foregrounding
> that language in demonstrations, and doing outreach and community building
> to the language group in question.  (All the mockups I've seen have been in
> German and English, and have been pitched to an English-speaking audience.)
>
> I don't think it is wise in 2020 to pretend that "colorblind" business as
> usual will advance the goals of our organization.  We need to actively work
> to ensure this project has effects that *work against* the significant
> pre-existing biases toward highly-educated speakers of European languages.
> It is not enough to say that "someday" this "may" have an effect on
> minority language groups if "somebody" ever gets around to doing it.  We
> must make those investments proactively and with clear intention in order
> to effect the change we wish to see in the world.
>   -- C. Scott Ananian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

[Mohammed Bachounda]

Thanks Zack,

Hoping that it will boost the project.

Best

Le mer. 5 août 2020 à 20:49, Yaroslav Blanter  a écrit :

> Thank you Zack for the update, much appreciated.
>
> Best regards
> Yaroslav
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune  wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28 to
> > provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process
> of
> > the Brand Project. We shared milestones up until recent events including
> > the RfC, the open letter, and the survey (but not survey results). We
> also
> > answered preliminary questions and committed to resolving other questions
> > that come up.
> >
> > The brand project team is preparing for our upcoming Board meeting where
> we
> > will decide next steps. The 2-day in-person Board of Trustees meeting
> > originally scheduled to coincide with Wikimania in early August, has now
> > been moved to a series of virtual meetings over the last two weeks of
> > September.
> >
> > For reference, the Brand Project team has added the materials that were
> > shared with the Board of Trustees to our project page. [1]
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > - Zack
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#See_also
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:43 PM Todd Allen  wrote:
> >
> > > And, how might one view it?
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM Zack McCune 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all -
> > > >
> > > > A quick update on timing: this Board briefing has been rescheduled
> for
> > > July
> > > > 28th.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Zack
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM João Alexandre Peschanski <
> > > > joa...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the update Nataliia. I hope he or she is feeling better.
> > > Best,
> > > > > João
> > > > >
> > > > > Em qua., 8 de jul. de 2020 às 14:44, Nataliia Tymkiv <
> > > > > ntym...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > > escreveu:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Hello! Just a quick update: the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > > Trustees
> > > > > was
> > > > > > notified by staff on the night of July 7th that the briefing of
> > July
> > > > 8th
> > > > > > needs to be rescheduled because of the illness of one of the key
> > > staff
> > > > > > members. We are looking for a new date before the August board
> > > meeting,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > we shall share an updated timeline in a few days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> > > > > > Vice Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your
> normal
> > > > > working
> > > > > > hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during
> > weekend.
> > > > You
> > > > > > should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off.
> Thank
> > > you
> > > > in
> > > > > > advance!*
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> > Zack 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

[Yaroslav Blanter]

Thank you Zack for the update, much appreciated.

Best regards
Yaroslav

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Zack McCune  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28 to
> provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process of
> the Brand Project. We shared milestones up until recent events including
> the RfC, the open letter, and the survey (but not survey results). We also
> answered preliminary questions and committed to resolving other questions
> that come up.
>
> The brand project team is preparing for our upcoming Board meeting where we
> will decide next steps. The 2-day in-person Board of Trustees meeting
> originally scheduled to coincide with Wikimania in early August, has now
> been moved to a series of virtual meetings over the last two weeks of
> September.
>
> For reference, the Brand Project team has added the materials that were
> shared with the Board of Trustees to our project page. [1]
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Zack
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#See_also
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:43 PM Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > And, how might one view it?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM Zack McCune 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all -
> > >
> > > A quick update on timing: this Board briefing has been rescheduled for
> > July
> > > 28th.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > - Zack
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM João Alexandre Peschanski <
> > > joa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the update Nataliia. I hope he or she is feeling better.
> > Best,
> > > > João
> > > >
> > > > Em qua., 8 de jul. de 2020 às 14:44, Nataliia Tymkiv <
> > > > ntym...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > >  Hello! Just a quick update: the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> > Trustees
> > > > was
> > > > > notified by staff on the night of July 7th that the briefing of
> July
> > > 8th
> > > > > needs to be rescheduled because of the illness of one of the key
> > staff
> > > > > members. We are looking for a new date before the August board
> > meeting,
> > > > and
> > > > > we shall share an updated timeline in a few days.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> > > > > Vice Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
> > > > >
> > > > > *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
> > > > working
> > > > > hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during
> weekend.
> > > You
> > > > > should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank
> > you
> > > in
> > > > > advance!*
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> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

[C. Scott Ananian]

Sorry I'm coming to this discussion a bit late, but I'd like to underline a
slightly different aspect of the concern that Phoebe raised:

> It concerns me that, at least in the high-level project proposals I've
> seen (I haven't been tracking this closely, and haven't read the academic
> papers) I have not yet seen discussions of ethical data, or how we might
> think about identifying bias, or even how to recruit contributors and the
> impact on existing contributors.
>

Using the terminology of Ibram X. Kendi (and others), I'd put this as:
"it's not enough to not be racist, you must actively be *anti-racist*."

Abstract Wikipedia is a "color blind" project.  Indeed it is often
described as advancing WMF goals by improving the amount of content
available for minority languages.

However, it is built on a huge edifice of ML and AI technology which
advantages majority languages and the already-powerful.

As Phoebe mentioned, the subtle biases of ML translation toward majority
views (selecting the "proper" gender pronoun for someone described as a
"doctor" or "professor", say) are well known, and certainly deserve to be
foregrounded from the start, as Danny has pledged to do in his response to
Phoebe.

But the infrastructure of this project is built this way from the ground
up.  Language models for European languages are orders of magnitude better
than language models for minority languages (if the latter exist at all).
The same is true for ontologies and every other constructed abstraction,
down to choices of what topics are significant enough to include in an
abstract article---but that ground has been ably covered by Kaldari and
others.  So let me concentrate solely on language models in the remainder
(with some parenthetical asides, for which I hope you'll forgive me).

I would like to challenge Abstract Wikipedia not only to be "not racist" or
"color blind", but to be actively *antiracist*.  That is, instead of
passively accepting the status quo wrt language models (& etc), to commit
to actively supporting a language model in *at least one* minority
language, treating it as a first-class citizen or (better) the *main*
output of the project.  That means not just looking for "a good enough
language model that happens not to be a European language" but *actively
developing the language model* so that the Abstract Wikipedia project *from
inception* has a positive effect on *at least one* community speaking a
underrepresented language with a small Wikipedia.  (Again, WLOG this could
apply to general AI/ML support for many many minority groups, but I'm
sticking with "at least one" and "language model" in order to make this as
concrete and actionable as possible.)  This of course also means committing
to hire a speaker of that non-European language as part of the core team
(not just an "and translations" afterthought), committing to foregrounding
that language in demonstrations, and doing outreach and community building
to the language group in question.  (All the mockups I've seen have been in
German and English, and have been pitched to an English-speaking audience.)

I don't think it is wise in 2020 to pretend that "colorblind" business as
usual will advance the goals of our organization.  We need to actively work
to ensure this project has effects that *work against* the significant
pre-existing biases toward highly-educated speakers of European languages.
It is not enough to say that "someday" this "may" have an effect on
minority language groups if "somebody" ever gets around to doing it.  We
must make those investments proactively and with clear intention in order
to effect the change we wish to see in the world.
  -- C. Scott Ananian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: Briefing postponement

[Zack McCune]

Hello everyone,

Heather Walls and I met with much of the Board of Trustees on July 28 to
provide an informational briefing on the strategy, history, and process of
the Brand Project. We shared milestones up until recent events including
the RfC, the open letter, and the survey (but not survey results). We also
answered preliminary questions and committed to resolving other questions
that come up.

The brand project team is preparing for our upcoming Board meeting where we
will decide next steps. The 2-day in-person Board of Trustees meeting
originally scheduled to coincide with Wikimania in early August, has now
been moved to a series of virtual meetings over the last two weeks of
September.

For reference, the Brand Project team has added the materials that were
shared with the Board of Trustees to our project page. [1]

Cheers,

- Zack

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#See_also

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:43 PM Todd Allen  wrote:

> And, how might one view it?
>
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM Zack McCune 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all -
> >
> > A quick update on timing: this Board briefing has been rescheduled for
> July
> > 28th.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > - Zack
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 6:24 AM João Alexandre Peschanski <
> > joa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the update Nataliia. I hope he or she is feeling better.
> Best,
> > > João
> > >
> > > Em qua., 8 de jul. de 2020 às 14:44, Nataliia Tymkiv <
> > > ntym...@wikimedia.org>
> > > escreveu:
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> > > >  Hello! Just a quick update: the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
> Trustees
> > > was
> > > > notified by staff on the night of July 7th that the briefing of July
> > 8th
> > > > needs to be rescheduled because of the illness of one of the key
> staff
> > > > members. We are looking for a new date before the August board
> meeting,
> > > and
> > > > we shall share an updated timeline in a few days.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #006 digest posted; #007 taking place

[James Heilman]

Thanks for these clinics. An amazing initiative.

J

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 7:05 AM Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #006, which was held in
> Spanish.[1]  An English version of the digest is also available[2], to
> allow non-Spanish speakers to benefit from the summary too.  I encourage
> those of you interested in hearing some voices from our Spanish- (and
> Catalan-) speaking communities to read the digest.
>
> In a few hours, at 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia Clinic
> #007, at this link[3].  The call today would have a demonstration by Amir
> Sarabadani of a new tool for gathering statistics about media usage, but
> will as always also welcome whatever Wikimedia-related topics attendees
> want to bring on.
>
> PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using Jitsi.
> Desktop/laptop computers can connect directly via the link[3] but if you
> want to connect using a mobile device (phone or tablet) you will need to
> download the Jitsi app[4] first and use that to connect via the link[3].
>
>A.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006/en
> [3] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic007
> [4] https://jitsi.org/downloads/
>
> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>
> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>
> Wikimedia Foundation 
>
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> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Clinic #006 digest posted; #007 taking place

[Asaf Bartov]

Dear Wikimedians,

I have posted the digest for Wikimedia Clinic #006, which was held in
Spanish.[1]  An English version of the digest is also available[2], to
allow non-Spanish speakers to benefit from the summary too.  I encourage
those of you interested in hearing some voices from our Spanish- (and
Catalan-) speaking communities to read the digest.

In a few hours, at 17:30 (5:30pm) UTC, we will be having Wikimedia Clinic
#007, at this link[3].  The call today would have a demonstration by Amir
Sarabadani of a new tool for gathering statistics about media usage, but
will as always also welcome whatever Wikimedia-related topics attendees
want to bring on.

PLEASE NOTE: experimentally, this call will take place using Jitsi.
Desktop/laptop computers can connect directly via the link[3] but if you
want to connect using a mobile device (phone or tablet) you will need to
download the Jitsi app[4] first and use that to connect via the link[3].

   A.

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/006/en
[3] https://meet.wmcloud.org/WikimediaClinic007
[4] https://jitsi.org/downloads/

Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)

Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities

Wikimedia Foundation 

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020

[Ivana Madžarević]

Hi Kiril,

Thank you for making this possible. I know it's not easy to adapt to our
new reality and it's challenging and bold to organize an online event like
this. I'm definitely thinking about good examples of our work during the
pandemic and probably will submit that.

I've also forwarded this call via Discord and our mailing list. I encourage
others to do that as well.

Best,
Ивана Маџаревић
менаџер пројеката и заједнице, Викимедија Србије
p: 011 3348 468 m: 060 74 54 773 a: Кнеза Милоша 80/14, Београд
s: rs.wikimedia.org e: ivana.madzare...@vikimedija.org

*Замислите свет у коме свака особа на планети има слободан приступ
целокупном људском знању. То је оно на чему ми радимо.*


уто, 4. авг 2020. у 16:50 Kiril Simeonovski 
је написао/ла:

> Dear all,
>
> I hope you are fine and healthy amid the difficult times.
>
> After the Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2020
>  was cancelled
> and postponed for 2021 due the COVID-19 pandemic, we came up with the idea
> of organising an online conference in order to keep continuity and discuss
> the major ongoings in the Wikimedia movement. The online event is planned
> to take place as the Wikimedia CEE Online Meeting 2020
>  from
> 2-4 October and it will be labelled with the slogan "Stay Stronger
> Online!".
>
> The programme for the event will be modest compared to the in-person
> conferences because of the technical difficulties and the different
> participants' environment. About a half of the time slots will be reserved
> for sessions on pre-selected topics covering major ongoings in the
> movement, while the other half will be filled with session proposals
> received through a call for submissions with three tracks in the submission
> process: COVID-19, Basic capacity development and Advanced capacity
> development. *The deadline for submitting session proposals
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Submissions
> >
> is
> 23:59 (CEST) on 31 August 2020.*
>
> Considering that this is planned to be an online event, we decided to
> *extend
> the eligibility for participation beyond the CEE communities and allow
> every interested individual contributor from the Wikimedia movement to take
> part (see list of interested participants
> <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Online_Meeting_2020/Participants/List
> >)*.
> That said, we hope that this online event will be enriched and diversified
> with the participation of people outside the CEE region.
>
> Stay safe and healthy!
>
> Best regards,
> Kiril Simeonovski
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