[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2021-12-31 Thread Amir Sarabadani 
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 12:42 AM Strainu  wrote:

> > So where is the best current place to discuss scaling Commons, and all
> that entails?
>
> My impression is that we don't have one. All we hear is "it needs to be
> planned", but there is no transparency on what that planning involves or
> when it actually happens.
>
> > I'd be surprised if the bottleneck were people or budget
>
> The main problem I see is that we end up in this kind of situation.
> Scaling and bug fixing critical features should be part of the annual
> budget. Each line of code deployed to production wikis should have an owner
> and associated maintenance budget each year. Without this, the team will
> not even commit reviews - see the thread on wikitech a few months back
> where a volunteer programmer willing to work on Upload Wizard was basically
> told "We will not review your code. Go fork."
>

There is "code stewardship program" and its goal is to find owners for
components that don't have an owner (or undeploy them). Sometimes it's
successful, sometimes it's not. I have been asking for a maintainer for
FlaggedRevs for four years now, beta cluster is suffering from a similar
situation, etc. etc. It takes time to find an owner for everything, to fill
the gaps in places we don't have a team to handle those (e.g. Multimedia,
you can't just hand over that to team responsible for security for
example). More info at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_stewardship_reviews

>
> > Some examples from recent discussions
>
> Also improvements to the Upload Wizard. There are quite a few open items
> in Phab on this.
>
+1

>
> I really hope you will have better luck than others with bringing this
> issue up in the priority list for next year - multimedia support is growing
> more outdated by the minute.
>
Honestly, the situation is more dire than you think. For example, until a
couple months ago, we didn't have backups for the media files. There was a
live copy in the secondary datacenter but for example if due to a software
issue, we lost some files, they were gone. I would like to thank Jaime
Crespo for pushing for it and implementing the backups.

But I beat my drum again, it's not something you can fix overnight. I'm
sure people are monitoring this mailing list and are aware of the problem.

Best

>
> Strainu
>
> Pe joi, 30 decembrie 2021, Samuel Klein  a scris:
> > Separate thread.  I'm not sure which list is appropriate.
> > ... but not all the way to sentience.
> >
> > The annual community wishlist survey (implemented by a small team,
> possibly in isolation?) may not be the mechanism for prioritizing large
> changes, but the latter also deserves a community-curated priority queue.
> To complement the staff-maintained priorities in phab ~
> > For core challenges (like Commons stability and capacity), I'd be
> surprised if the bottleneck were people or budget.  We do need a shared
> understanding of what issues are most important and most urgent, and how to
> solve them. For instance, a way to turn Amir's recent email about the
> problem (and related phab tickets) into a family of persistent,
> implementable specs and proposals and their articulated obstacles.
> > An issue tracker like phab is good for tracking the progress and
> dependencies of agreed-upon tasks, but weak for discussing what is
> important, what we know about it, how to address it. And weak for
> discussing ecosystem-design issues that are important and need persistent
> updating but don't have a simple checklist of steps.
> > So where is the best current place to discuss scaling Commons, and all
> that entails?  Some examples from recent discussions (most from the wm-l
> thread below):
> > - Uploads: Support for large file uploads / Keeping bulk upload tools
> online
> > - Video: Debugging + rolling out the videojs player
> > - Formats: Adding support for CML and dozens of other common high-demand
> file formats
> > - Thumbs: Updating thumbor and librsvg
> > - Search: WCQS still down, noauth option wanted for tools
> > - General: Finish implementing redesign of the image table
> >
> > SJ
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 6:26 AM Amir Sarabadani 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not debating your note. It is very valid that we lack proper
> support for multimedia stack. I myself wrote a detailed rant on how broken
> it is [1] but three notes:
> >>  - Fixing something like this takes time, you need to assign the budget
> for it (which means it has to be done during the annual planning) and if
> gets approved, you need to start it with the fiscal year (meaning July
> 2022) and then hire (meaning, write JD, do recruitment, interview lots of
> people, get them hired) which can take from several months to years. Once
> they are hired, you need to onboard them and let them learn about our
> technical infrastructure which takes at least two good months. Software
> engineering is not magic, it takes time, blood and sweat. [2]
> >>  - Making another team focus on multimedia requires changes in

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fwd: volunteers needed for Wikimania 2022!

2021-12-31 Thread Butch Bustria 
Hi Everyone,

I hope every one of you are enjoying the new year!

This is to remind you that the deadline for volunteer application
submission is on 9 January 2022 (Sunday)!

Go to  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer for more
information


Kind regards,

Butch Bustria
Wikimania SC

On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, 3:16 am phoebe ayers,  wrote:

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> Dear all,
>
> The Wikimania Foundation events team, the Wikimania steering committee,
> and members of the 2021 Wikimania organizing team would like to invite you
> to help organize Wikimania 2022!  Wikimania 2022 will again primarily be a
> virtual event, with distributed in-person events if local and global
> circumstances allow.
>
> We need volunteers to be a part of the core organizing team as well as for
> other roles. You can find more information here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2022/Volunteer
>
> The core team will help determine the structure and timeline of the event,
> lead programming, scholarship, communication and other teams for the event,
> and help ensure our global conference is a success.
>
> For the process to volunteer, see:
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>
> There's a set of questions on the meta page linked above; you can email
> your answers to the events team or post on meta by January 9th, 2022.
> Events staff and Wikimania steering committee members will review
> applications, meet with shortlisted candidates the following week, and
> announce the core organizing team by January 21st. Please post any
> questions on the talk page. We look forward to building an amazing
> conference team!
>
> best,
> Phoebe Ayers
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Indonesia annual and audit report

2021-12-31 Thread Tito Dutta 
Hello Biyanto,
The report looks pretty amazing, and it is very well-designed. It is always
a pleasure to go through your report, and the way you wonderfully present
it.
Thanks to you and your team for sharing.
ইতি,
টিটো দত্ত/User:Titodutta
(মাতৃভাষা থাক জীবন জুড়ে)


শুক্র, ৩১ ডিসেম্বর, ২০২১ তারিখে ৬:৫২ PM টায় তারিখে Biyanto Rebin <
biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id> লিখেছেন:

> Hello all,
>
> On behalf of Wikimedia Indonesia, I am so thrilled to announce that we
> have already received our audit report. You can read our annual report in 
> bilingual
> report 
> (Indonesian-English) and video format report
>  in Indonesian only. You can
> read our audit report via this link.
> 
>
>
> Happy new year for all of us.
> Have a wonderful year ahead!
>
> Best,
>
>
>
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>
> Wikimedia Indonesia
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia annual and audit report

2021-12-31 Thread Biyanto Rebin 
Hello all,

On behalf of Wikimedia Indonesia, I am so thrilled to announce that we have
already received our audit report. You can read our annual report in bilingual
report 
(Indonesian-English) and video format report
 in Indonesian only. You can
read our audit report via this link.



Happy new year for all of us.
Have a wonderful year ahead!

Best,



Biyanto Rebin | Ketua Umum (*Chair of the Board of Executive*)

Wikimedia Indonesia

Surel | E-mail : biyanto.re...@wikimedia.or.id

Akun pengguna | User name: Biyanto Rebin (WMID)


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pertumbuhan, pengembangan, dan penyebaran pengetahuan dalam bahasa
Indonesia dan bahasa daerah yang dipertuturkan di Indonesia secara bebas
dan gratis.


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