[Wikimedia-l] Re: Post-Wikimania Covid cases

[Robert Myers]

It would be hard to know where you picked it up from. Certainly the longer you?re in a venue, the chances increase but you can still pick it up in locations you may have only spent a few minutes in. There was an uptick in cases world wide around the time of Wikimania. I was unable to attend due to work commitments, since my place of employment had people off due to COVID. Wikimania didn?t have any requirements, it recommend ART/RAT, face masks and to stay away from the conference if unwell https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Health. PCR tests are now impossible to get, even if you can, they are now expensive. Though I found ART/RAT to be relatively reliable but just not as sensitive (T line would be faint for the first two days of symptoms), when I got CO
 VID for the first time in March/April this year. I do not agree with enforcing testing, face masks and COVID vaccinations, when countries have moved away from such restrictions. --Robert Myersrobert.my...@wikimedia.org.auOn 9 Sep 2023, at 2:01 am, Lane Rasberry  wrote:?I got COVID at Wikimania as did my boyfriend Fabian. Our symptoms both began two days after the conference. I was sick in bed, hardly moving for 3 days. Both of us have been vaccinated five times in the United States and caught COVID one time before.Completely unrelated, but back in the United States our housemates got COVID while we were gone. Also elsewhere in my town there are suddenly people out with COVID in many places, whe
 n for some time, we had not been experiencing cases.On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 11:03?AM Neurodivergent Netizen  wrote:I didn't attend but I'd imagine any event with international attendees would have a  increased chance of spreading covid, even if certain measures were taken to prevent that from happening. Nevertheless, there are measures that can be taken to reduce the likelihood. Honestly, I need to disclaim the following by saying I?m not sure what measures were taken; however, I think one of those measures actually was taken: I think Wikimania was a hybrid event. Requirements for both testing and 
 masks might?ve helped; the more accurate COVID tests take a couple days to process, the rapid tests are less accurate, hence the need for both. Also, outdoor eating areas, along with purified and ventilated air indoors would also helped. Requirements for vaccination would make sense in a world where vaccinations were more accessible.An entirely virtual option would be ideal in the COVID situation we?re in (that is, a worldwide spike) would be the most ideal, but that?s impossible to predict.From,I dream of horsesShe/her


On Sep 8, 2023, at 7:48 AM, Clover Moss  wrote:I didn't attend but I'd imagine any event with international attendees would have a  increased chance of spreading covid, even if certain measures were taken to prevent that from happening. On Fri, Sept 8, 2023, 10:47 a.m. Galder Gonzalez Larra?aga  wrote:






I don't know if there's something statistically significant, but when I returned home, some of my friends were with COVID, and not me. It would be difficult to know if Wikimania affected people, or simply there's a spike worldwide.




Take care




Galder



From: Andreas Kolbe 
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 4:43 PM
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Hi all,


I've heard from a couple of Wikimania attendees that they got ill with Covid after Wikimania Singapore.


Just wondering ? are those exceptional cases, or did this happen to a substantial number of participants?


Best,
Andreas




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sexual harassment

[Robert Myers]

And there the problem lies, going to local authorities (police) isn’t going to 
be useful. Some authorities require the alleged crime to be committed in their 
jurisdiction, which can be limited, anonymous nature of the person who 
committed the alleged crime makes it difficult to identify the individual(s), 
with it servers hosted outside the jurisdiction make it harder to investigate. 
Also I have seen in the past, WP:LEGAL used against those who have reported 
threats of physical violence or harassment (physical stalking) to law 
enforcement. 

I do think there needs to be a off-wiki complaint process for serious 
allegations, since on-wiki processes can be inappropriate and acts as a 
chilling effect (since it is very open and public) on the victim(s). The same 
situation can occur for alleged perpetrator(s), where the allegation(s) are 
false or vexatious and malicious grievances. 

Maybe the Universal Code of Conduct might address this issue, it might not as 
well. 

--
Robert Myers
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http://www.wikimedia.org.au

> On 24 Aug 2020, at 1:37 pm, Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you ve been sexually harassed in wikipedia this is not a matter to be
> solved on a mailing list or by Safety team. Go to you local authorities and
> report it. This is a very serious matter to just become an essay for
> someone or belive that it can be solved by administrators or safety team.
> Safety team in my harassment case told me to "politely" ask my harrasers to
> stop harassing me. Please don t relay on them for such a serious matter!
> Please be safe and I m sure you can seek help by trained and serious people
> by your local authorities.
> I wish someone could told me that in my case then and not point me to
> safety team. They will not help you.
> 
> Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής
> 
> 
> Στις Δευ, 24 Αυγ 2020, 3:41 π.μ. ο χρήστης Gnangarra 
> έγραψε:
> 
>> If someone feels harassed then a public noticeboard is the last place to
>> send them for help,  that is an absolute failure of the community to
>> understand that the act of reporting is also doubling down on the harm.
>> Doing so publicly is indicating to the person committing the harassment
>> that they have succeeded in causing harm.
>> 
>> This folks is the very reason why we fail to retain editors and breach the
>> imbalance of editors and continue have trouble with bias.  Everyone speaks
>> english but the cultural nuances of the language vary greatly with words
>> having multiple meanings and being used specifically to cause offense.
>> 
>> The word cutie has its meanings;
>> 
>>   -  of being nice looking when talking about kids and animals
>> 
>> but once its used referring to an adult as part of a discussion its changes
>> to that of them being;
>> 
>>   - of being an arsehole
>>   - of being picky
>>   - and of having sexual connotations ranging from you are fuckable, to
>>   your sexual orientation.
>> 
>> When these complaints get to something like AN/I those cultural and
>> linguistic nuances get dismissed and the person using them has gained a lot
>> of power, self satisfaction, and endorsement of their harassment as being
>> ok, with a bonus that other users are now also enabled to harass the
>> complaining editor knowing full well that AN/I will do nothing.
>> 
>> The bottom line is if a person feels harassed they have been harassed,
>> whether we understand the depth of why they feel harassed is not relevant
>> but that should not be a barrier to prevent further harassment.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 06:21, Isaac Olatunde 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Chris,
>>> 
>>> This isn't a terribly bad advise, AFAICS.
>>> 
>>> Harassments are treated on a case-by-case basis.
>>> 
>>> So, if this is something you aren't comfortable discussing publicly, you
>>> could email the Functionary team or ArbCom or similar body in that
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> If it's something that should be removed from public view, you could
>>> contact the oversight team.
>>> 
>>> I can't see the contents of the harassment, so I can only speak based on
>>> general principle.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Isaac
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 23:07 Chris Sherlock, 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To be clear, this is what I was advised:
>>>> 
>>>> “ Harassment concerns can be reviewed under the appropriate community
>>>> process. I would therefore advise you to report the edit summary to the
>>>> appr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Elena Sanz passed away last night

[Robert Myers]

I’m in shock! Have meet her at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin and at 
Wikimania. She was a fantastic person but also very passionate. 

The community has lost a great role model. My condolences to her family, 
colleagues and friends. 

--
Robert Myers
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> On 7 Jul 2020, at 1:56 am, Santiago Navarro  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello. I have bad news, the kind of news we never want to have. Our friend 
> and colleage Elena Sanz (user ElsaBornFree) passed away last night.
> 
> Elena Sanz was a strong, intelligent and brilliant woman. She joined 
> Wikimedia movement in 2014 and after two years she because secretary of 
> Wikimedia España, possition she had till now.
> 
> Many of you met her in many conferences and events, such as Wikimedia 
> Conferences, Wikimanias or Iberoconfs, but also meeting for advocacy in the 
> EU, the Wikipedia+education conference in Donostia, next to her home town. A 
> very active person, this has been a huge shock for all of us.
> 
> If you want to leave your condolences, you can write in a page created for 
> that on Spanish Wikipedia.[1] We wrote also a blog post dedicated to her 
> memory.[2]
> 
> As a president of Wikimedia España and a friend of her, I want to express our 
> condolences on behalf of Wikimedia España to his family and friends. We will 
> always remember her.
> 
> [1] 
> https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistas_fallecidos/ElsaBornFree
> [2] https://www.wikimedia.es/2020/07/06/hasta-siempre-elena/
> 
> -- 
> Santiago Navarro Sanz
> Presidente
> Wikimedia España
> www.wikimedia.es
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Preventing conflicts of interest in Wikimedia organizations' employment and financial relationships

[Robert Myers]

Most countries would have privacy laws that prevent organisations (with 
exceptions for law and tax enforcement organisations) attaining and/or having 
access to an employee/board member’s bank account. 

Would be pointless anyway, since kickbacks don’t have to be paid into a bank 
account[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-16/nsw-premier-barry-ofarrell-to-resign-over-icac-grange-wine/5393478].
 

WMAU has an internal COI register for all committee (board) members. Any time a 
COI arises, it needs to be disclosed. During meetings, depending on the COI the 
person(s) need abstain from voting or leave the meeting. 

>> On 21 May 2020, at 5:23 am, Pine W  wrote:
> Awhile back I saw a joke that when reading a newspaper someone had
> difficulty distinguishing between the business section and the crime
> section. These days, the politics section could cause similar
> confusion. Recently I have wondered about the extent to which WMF and
> the affiliates take steps to prevent conflicts of interest in
> financial decisions.
> 
> I am not aware of any evidence of recent financial conflicts of
> interest, but I think that taking steps to prevent and detect any
> problems would be prudent.
> 
> For example, is there any monitoring of the bank accounts of board
> members and executives to ensure that they are not receiving kickbacks
> from companies that have contracts with the organizations? Also, are
> there "cooling off periods" which contractually require that
> executives and board members of WMF and Wikimedia affiliates not
> become employees of companies that have had financial relationships
> with their organizations until at least a few years after their
> employment or board membership with the Wikimedia organization?
> 
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons

[Robert Myers]

Well some people do, but it is when they get trolled by other contributors
and/or overzealous Admin comes along and deletes the file. They quickly
lose interest, in turn telling other people not to bother.

I just had another lot of photographs tagged by a troll, in which an Admin
deletes (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log=File:Rachel_Priest_after_the_Sydney_Thunder_vs_Adelaide_Strikers_WBBL_game_at_Robertson_Oval.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log=File:Abandoned_farm_house_in_Hillgrove_01.jpg).
These have been on Commons for two + years, using the same camera gear I
have used over the years. If it is enough for me to give up on the project,
it would be the same for any other user but for a newbie it is something
that would make me run for the hills (depart quickly as possible)!

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta 
wrote:

>
>
> Anecdotally, it seems people sometimes don't upload their photos to
> Commons because they don't realize that the scope of Commons is much
> broader than that of Wikipedia.
>
> Has there been, or should there be, any research into this, or why people
> don't contribute more broadly?
>
> ~Benjamin
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Change in WMAU Committee

[Robert Myers]

Hi all,

On Sunday 25 August 2019, Wikimedia Australia held its Annual General
Meeting (AGM).

Two long term Committee members, Gideon Digby and Tom Hograth, have taken a
step back from WMAU as Committee members but will be still involved within
the movement.

Current WMAU Committee as of 25 August 2019

Office-bearers

   - Pru Mitchell - President
   - Alex Lum - Vice-President
   - Robert Myers - Secretary
   - Steven Crossin - Treasurer

Ordinary Committee Members

   - Caddie Brain
   - Matthew Moore
   - Jacinta Sutton
   - Sam Wilson

Regards,
Robert

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