Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Anasuya, thank you for your quick response! Best, Nicole On 19 July 2013 01:45, Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Nicole, Happy to help! No, the $6M _doesn't_ include any potential FDC allocation for WMF in Round 2. Warmly, Anasuya On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hi Anasuya and Garfield, please allow me a quick question: * In 2012-13, the FDC grants (round 1 and 2) were $4.7 M plus the WMF FDC grant of $4.5 M = a total of $9.2 M. * In 2013-14, the FDC grants are budgeted with a total of $6 M. What is unclear to me is if this $6 M are including the FDC grant the WMF might apply for in round 2 or not. Can you clarify this for me? Thanks a lot and best regards, Nicole On 18 July 2013 10:34, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Thanks Sam for the clarification. I'm sorry to hear this was not discussed in the board apparently. I hope you will be able to share the outcome of that discussion to remove any uncertainty that may have remained. I do agree that there was no major change in how the annual plan was handled this year - but I tried to put things in a perspective. The WMF did not try to 'compensate' the lack of FDC process this year by for example publishing the draft annual plan or financial plan earlier in the process for community review. I remain of the opinion (also towards chapters) that sharing early drafts to what they consider their memberships is often a good thing. While the FDC decision on the WMF request may not have been unanimous, since the fiscal year was fully started, people had been hired and even paid for, I don't think it would have been possible for them to make serious cuts. By the suboptimal process that was followed, it was definitely afterwards, and as the input for the process had already been board approved and also the output decision was a board decision, besides the fact that there is a whole discussion possible over core/non-core, I would have been very very surprised if anything else than 100% approval would have been the result. This is of course also why this process is changed. My point here was primarily that with all its flaws, not even this process was followed this year. Because imho it *was* indeed an improvement over the years before. Anasuya: My apologies for being confusing. I was of course referring to the approval of the WMF 2013/2014 non-core activities, not so much to the 2013/2014 FDC process. I understand from your email that you're confirming the clear explanation by Anders Wennersten. Thank you for that. Kind regards, Lodewijk 2013/7/18 Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org Hi Lodewijk, Since you asked specifically about WMF not sending in a Letter of Intent (LoI) to the FDC process, WMF - like any other entity interested in applying for Round 2 - doesn't need to have sent it in by June 8th as did those interested in applying for Round 1. Essentially, entities that are interested in applying for Round 2 of any year have the option of either publishing an LoI by June 8th, clarifying they intend to apply for Round 2, or publishing it by November 8th in order to be eligible for Round 2. As Anders mentioned, the FDC and WMF are in a conversation to confirm the details, but WMF intends to apply for Round 2 of the 2013-14 FDC process. thanks, Anasuya 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Itzik: There are no new requirements in this process, the reports requested reflect the reports needed by the chapter agreement and the FDC process. As for format of the 2012 activity report, I suggest you look at chapter reports http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports to see what presentation and format may work best for your chapter. As for the financial report, you always have the option of using the short form financial reporthttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2012_ShortFinancialReport.pdffor the FDC process as WM France did, to reduce the impact of translating a larger document. Regards, Garfield On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Thanks Sam for the clarification. I'm sorry to hear this was not discussed in the board apparently. I hope you will be able to share the outcome of that discussion to remove any uncertainty that may have remained. I do agree that there was no major change in how the annual plan was handled this year - but I tried to put things in a perspective. The WMF did not try to 'compensate' the lack of FDC process this year by for example publishing the draft annual plan or financial plan earlier in the process for community review. I remain of the opinion (also towards chapters) that sharing early drafts to what they consider their memberships is often a good thing. While the FDC decision on the WMF request may not have been unanimous, since the fiscal year was fully started, people had been hired and even paid for, I don't think it would have been possible for them to make serious cuts. By the suboptimal process that was followed, it was definitely afterwards, and as the input for the process had already been board approved and also the output decision was a board decision, besides the fact that there is a whole discussion possible over core/non-core, I would have been very very surprised if anything else than 100% approval would have been the result. This is of course also why this process is changed. My point here was primarily that with all its flaws, not even this process was followed this year. Because imho it *was* indeed an improvement over the years before. Anasuya: My apologies for being confusing. I was of course referring to the approval of the WMF 2013/2014 non-core activities, not so much to the 2013/2014 FDC process. I understand from your email that you're confirming the clear explanation by Anders Wennersten. Thank you for that. Kind regards, Lodewijk 2013/7/18 Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org Hi Lodewijk, Since you asked specifically about WMF not sending in a Letter of Intent (LoI) to the FDC process, WMF - like any other entity interested in applying for Round 2 - doesn't need to have sent it in by June 8th as did those interested in applying for Round 1. Essentially, entities that are interested in applying for Round 2 of any year have the option of either publishing an LoI by June 8th, clarifying they intend to apply for Round 2, or publishing it by November 8th in order to be eligible for Round 2. As Anders mentioned, the FDC and WMF are in a conversation to confirm the details, but WMF intends to apply for Round 2 of the 2013-14 FDC process. thanks, Anasuya 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Anasuya and Garfield, please allow me a quick question: * In 2012-13, the FDC grants (round 1 and 2) were $4.7 M plus the WMF FDC grant of $4.5 M = a total of $9.2 M. * In 2013-14, the FDC grants are budgeted with a total of $6 M. What is unclear to me is if this $6 M are including the FDC grant the WMF might apply for in round 2 or not. Can you clarify this for me? Thanks a lot and best regards, Nicole On 18 July 2013 10:34, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Thanks Sam for the clarification. I'm sorry to hear this was not discussed in the board apparently. I hope you will be able to share the outcome of that discussion to remove any uncertainty that may have remained. I do agree that there was no major change in how the annual plan was handled this year - but I tried to put things in a perspective. The WMF did not try to 'compensate' the lack of FDC process this year by for example publishing the draft annual plan or financial plan earlier in the process for community review. I remain of the opinion (also towards chapters) that sharing early drafts to what they consider their memberships is often a good thing. While the FDC decision on the WMF request may not have been unanimous, since the fiscal year was fully started, people had been hired and even paid for, I don't think it would have been possible for them to make serious cuts. By the suboptimal process that was followed, it was definitely afterwards, and as the input for the process had already been board approved and also the output decision was a board decision, besides the fact that there is a whole discussion possible over core/non-core, I would have been very very surprised if anything else than 100% approval would have been the result. This is of course also why this process is changed. My point here was primarily that with all its flaws, not even this process was followed this year. Because imho it *was* indeed an improvement over the years before. Anasuya: My apologies for being confusing. I was of course referring to the approval of the WMF 2013/2014 non-core activities, not so much to the 2013/2014 FDC process. I understand from your email that you're confirming the clear explanation by Anders Wennersten. Thank you for that. Kind regards, Lodewijk 2013/7/18 Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org Hi Lodewijk, Since you asked specifically about WMF not sending in a Letter of Intent (LoI) to the FDC process, WMF - like any other entity interested in applying for Round 2 - doesn't need to have sent it in by June 8th as did those interested in applying for Round 1. Essentially, entities that are interested in applying for Round 2 of any year have the option of either publishing an LoI by June 8th, clarifying they intend to apply for Round 2, or publishing it by November 8th in order to be eligible for Round 2. As Anders mentioned, the FDC and WMF are in a conversation to confirm the details, but WMF intends to apply for Round 2 of the 2013-14 FDC process. thanks, Anasuya 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Nicole, Happy to help! No, the $6M _doesn't_ include any potential FDC allocation for WMF in Round 2. Warmly, Anasuya On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Nicole Ebber nicole.eb...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hi Anasuya and Garfield, please allow me a quick question: * In 2012-13, the FDC grants (round 1 and 2) were $4.7 M plus the WMF FDC grant of $4.5 M = a total of $9.2 M. * In 2013-14, the FDC grants are budgeted with a total of $6 M. What is unclear to me is if this $6 M are including the FDC grant the WMF might apply for in round 2 or not. Can you clarify this for me? Thanks a lot and best regards, Nicole On 18 July 2013 10:34, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Thanks Sam for the clarification. I'm sorry to hear this was not discussed in the board apparently. I hope you will be able to share the outcome of that discussion to remove any uncertainty that may have remained. I do agree that there was no major change in how the annual plan was handled this year - but I tried to put things in a perspective. The WMF did not try to 'compensate' the lack of FDC process this year by for example publishing the draft annual plan or financial plan earlier in the process for community review. I remain of the opinion (also towards chapters) that sharing early drafts to what they consider their memberships is often a good thing. While the FDC decision on the WMF request may not have been unanimous, since the fiscal year was fully started, people had been hired and even paid for, I don't think it would have been possible for them to make serious cuts. By the suboptimal process that was followed, it was definitely afterwards, and as the input for the process had already been board approved and also the output decision was a board decision, besides the fact that there is a whole discussion possible over core/non-core, I would have been very very surprised if anything else than 100% approval would have been the result. This is of course also why this process is changed. My point here was primarily that with all its flaws, not even this process was followed this year. Because imho it *was* indeed an improvement over the years before. Anasuya: My apologies for being confusing. I was of course referring to the approval of the WMF 2013/2014 non-core activities, not so much to the 2013/2014 FDC process. I understand from your email that you're confirming the clear explanation by Anders Wennersten. Thank you for that. Kind regards, Lodewijk 2013/7/18 Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org Hi Lodewijk, Since you asked specifically about WMF not sending in a Letter of Intent (LoI) to the FDC process, WMF - like any other entity interested in applying for Round 2 - doesn't need to have sent it in by June 8th as did those interested in applying for Round 1. Essentially, entities that are interested in applying for Round 2 of any year have the option of either publishing an LoI by June 8th, clarifying they intend to apply for Round 2, or publishing it by November 8th in order to be eligible for Round 2. As Anders mentioned, the FDC and WMF are in a conversation to confirm the details, but WMF intends to apply for Round 2 of the 2013-14 FDC process. thanks, Anasuya 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Seb35 skrev 2013-07-17 15:55: I don’t understand: the results of the Round 2 will be April-May 2014, is it not for the Fiscal Year 2013-14 the non-core WMF will ask funding? If so, this would mean funds will already be spent for the major part and the FDC will have no choice than accept the requested funds, isn’t it? I might not catch something. The WMF budget for 2012-2013 was reviewed by FDC in Round 1 in October 2012. It was a rather confusing and unsatisfactory exercise as the budget was already approved by the Board. But with the decision on narrowed focus, made two days before our meeting, we could anyway give some type of blessing of the budget (but not with full consensus - the only case as yet). In our meeting for Round 2 in April this year we had not received any proposal from WMF, and we had two special sessions re WMF and FDC, first with Sue and part of the Board and the other just FDC with Garfield supporting us with numbers etc. Neither of us in FDC, WMF or the Board saw any use of repeating the review of WMF budget in Round 1, as we did last year, and we agreed instead to get process in place for a a proper review/dissemination in Round 2 for the budget of 2014-2015. And FDC has since then stated some basic thoughts what this should look like. This means FDC will do no reviews of dissemination of the 2013-2014 budget for WMF. Also to remember we have an extreme tight schedule for the upcoming round with 15-16 applicants with no extra time to spare. Anders *FDC have stated it want to have a proposal from WMF covering both the total and also some pinpointed programs in their budget with with money numbers for its budget for these pinpointed programs. How to pick these and if it also should be the total is still open. As it is only early next year this has to be resolved we will now wait until we have handled Round 1 before we continue this issue We miss out this year but think it is more vital to get it right for 2014-2015 Anders secretary of FDC Lodewijk skrev 2013-07-16 21:33: resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential
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Thanks Anders for sharing this update. Out of curiosity, was this already shared elsewhere? To comprehend the situation fully, what does this mean for the WMF budget for 2013/2014? I mean, to put things a little in perspective: * The annual plan was not shared until some days into the year (Sam was not even allowed to share the summary I believe?) * The financial details were also not shared (nor was any input asked I believe to the community?) * There will be no afterwards-rubberstamp-kind-of-approval by the FDC for non-core activities While I agree that the procedure followed last year was much left to improve on in many ways - the situation for this year seems even less satisfactory with regards to the WMF budget. Does this mean the WMF will not do anything outside the core? Or will it simply not request funding but assume approval as the board already approved it? And what effect does this have on the available funds for the FDC? (this is probably covered in the annual plan - apologies for not getting around to reading that yet, I saw little point yet as it is after the fact anyway) Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/17 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se Seb35 skrev 2013-07-17 15:55: I don’t understand: the results of the Round 2 will be April-May 2014, is it not for the Fiscal Year 2013-14 the non-core WMF will ask funding? If so, this would mean funds will already be spent for the major part and the FDC will have no choice than accept the requested funds, isn’t it? I might not catch something. The WMF budget for 2012-2013 was reviewed by FDC in Round 1 in October 2012. It was a rather confusing and unsatisfactory exercise as the budget was already approved by the Board. But with the decision on narrowed focus, made two days before our meeting, we could anyway give some type of blessing of the budget (but not with full consensus - the only case as yet). In our meeting for Round 2 in April this year we had not received any proposal from WMF, and we had two special sessions re WMF and FDC, first with Sue and part of the Board and the other just FDC with Garfield supporting us with numbers etc. Neither of us in FDC, WMF or the Board saw any use of repeating the review of WMF budget in Round 1, as we did last year, and we agreed instead to get process in place for a a proper review/dissemination in Round 2 for the budget of 2014-2015. And FDC has since then stated some basic thoughts what this should look like. This means FDC will do no reviews of dissemination of the 2013-2014 budget for WMF. Also to remember we have an extreme tight schedule for the upcoming round with 15-16 applicants with no extra time to spare. Anders *FDC have stated it want to have a proposal from WMF covering both the total and also some pinpointed programs in their budget with with money numbers for its budget for these pinpointed programs. How to pick these and if it also should be the total is still open. As it is only early next year this has to be resolved we will now wait until we have handled Round 1 before we continue this issue We miss out this year but think it is more vital to get it right for 2014-2015 Anders secretary of FDC Lodewijk skrev 2013-07-16 21:33: resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Briefly: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Thanks Anders for sharing this update. Out of curiosity, was this already shared elsewhere? The details, including the idea that WMF would not get FDC review for our 2013-14 plan, were news to me. Currently being discussed on the Board; I hope things will be clearer (to me at least!) soon. To comprehend the situation fully, what does this mean for the WMF budget for 2013/2014? I mean, to put things a little in perspective: * The annual plan was not shared until some days into the year This has been the case in past years. We can improve, but it wasn't new. * The financial details were also not shared (nor was any input asked I believe to the community?) This has also been the case in past years - posting of the plan followed by discussion on Meta. This will definitely improve. The idea proposed by the FDC, as I understand it, is that starting in 2014, the WMF will publish a draft of its budget and plan in time for FDC round 2, on Meta -- with all that entails, including the community review period. * There will be no afterwards-rubberstamp-kind-of-approval by the FDC for non-core activities I am unclear on this point. I believe that FDC review of the WMF plan is always valuable. Even if the WMF were doing nothing outside of the core, I would appreciate feedback from the FDC on how we were defining 'core'. Your comment about 'afterwards...kind-of' and 'rubberstamp' are unfounded here: the $4.5M that the WMF requested last year was line-itemed as a separate part of the budget, and it was clear in the annual plan that this would depend on the FDC outcome. And the WMF's proposal was approved, but not unanimously. Warmly, Sam. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FDC_2013-2014_Round_1 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_checklist/2013-2014_round1 [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index [6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [7]
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Itzik, As far as I understand, the activity report is a requirement in the chapters agreement, which the WMF is finally starting to take somewhat seriously. (§8 [1]) But otherwise I agree that the FDC process requires quite a bit of time spent on it throughout the year. Best regards, Bence [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundationoldid=86480 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Garfield, Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? To everyone else on the list: I wasn't sure if any progress had been made towards re-purposing the internal wiki, so started a discussion on Meta, please add your thoughts there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_wikis#Are_we_re-purposing_Internal.3F . Thehelpfulone On 16 July 2013 14:12, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi, Garfield correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that WMF said that even an automated translation of the annual report was fine, same was for the financial report. Is that still the case or do you need human translation? As, as far as I know, most entities are already doing an annual activity and financial report, automated translation wouldn't burden entities much. Best, -- Christophe On 16 July 2013 15:21, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Itzik, As far as I understand, the activity report is a requirement in the chapters agreement, which the WMF is finally starting to take somewhat seriously. (§8 [1]) But otherwise I agree that the FDC process requires quite a bit of time spent on it throughout the year. Best regards, Bence [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundationoldid=86480 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal.
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik Hi Itzik, Some administrative burden (reporting, accounting for use of funds, etc.) is part of almost any grant or external funding. On the surface, this doesn't seem unreasonable. It does seem like it can be difficult for entities who have not received recent or substantial funding to meet the requirements when they don't have the money to pay for administrative help. Perhaps chapters in that situation should ask for small grants for that purpose in the run up to FDC qualification, and then build future admin costs into the FDC proposal? ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ If by both lists you are referring to Internal-l and Wikimedia-l, this doesn't appear to be the case, as I don't have a record of an e-mail from Garfield on July 15th or 16th to Wikimedia-l. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On 16 July 2013 16:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Klein, 16/07/2013 17:32: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ Impossible, I think. Internal-l is not listed on https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfohttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo, and mailman rejects messages sent to a mixed audience of secret and public lists. (Maybe Filip/the admins can be allowed to make it listed?) Nemo is correct: when you said that I thought it was just my inbox so I double checked the list archives, looking at this month'shttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-July/thread.html thread view I don't think it was sent to both lists. We have a privacy setting on some lists so if you send an email to a private mailing list and a public one then Mailman will not allow the email to go through as a layer of extra protection. Internal-l is set as one of those private lists. -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTCthat same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FDC_2013-2014_Round_1 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_checklist/2013-2014_round1 [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index [6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [7] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Internal-l mailing list interna...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Lodewijk, 16/07/2013 21:33: 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? It seems more likely they'll expand the definition of core to cover all they do. Nemo Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
FDC have on ongoing dialog and discussion with WMF and the Board on how to handle WMF, as we in FDC want WMF to be handled a all other entities as far as is reasonable, recognizing some unique differences between WMF and other entities. In this discussion that is still ongoing, we have agreed *WMF shall be handled in Round 2, so they are treated before their budget year begins as for all other entities also *FDC have stated it want to have a proposal from WMF covering both the total and also some pinpointed programs in their budget with with money numbers for its budget for these pinpointed programs. How to pick these and if it also should be the total is still open. As it is only early next year this has to be resolved we will now wait until we have handled Round 1 before we continue this issue We miss out this year but think it is more vital to get it right for 2014-2015 Anders secretary of FDC Lodewijk skrev 2013-07-16 21:33: resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTCthat same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3]
