Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Liam Wyatt
Hanks for posting that nick - I was just about to write an email to say the
same thing :-)
Getting a National Library of Australia card is free and online, and
they'll post it to you anywhere in the country. From there you've got
access to LOTS of open and closed-access databases which you can access
from home. The off-site access part is the really special bit since this is
often better than even university-library subscriptions to the same
databases.
Note also that State Libraries also run their own eResources systems
associated with their own library cards.

On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'd add that anyone with an Australian postal address can access a pretty
 wide range of resources (including JSTOR and various Oxford databases)
 through the National Library of Australia's website:
 http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/

 That said, I gained a Questia account through the Wikipedia Library, and
 it's an excellent resource.

 Nick

  Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:58:20 +1100
  From: rich...@ames.id.au
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  Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library
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  And if you are a NSW resident see:
 
  http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/
 
  for lots of 'no charge resources' (supported by your taxes) with lots of
  the big overseas databases and Australian ones.
 
  Regards, Richard.
 
  On 06/11/14 13:48, Charles Gregory wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   If there is anyone who thinks they would be eligible for (and benefit
   from) access to the research accounts as mentioned below, please get in
   touch with User:Ocaasi as suggested in the email. Note that although
   there aren't any accounts for Australian specific services available, a
   reminder that one of the better local resources - NLA's Trove
   (http://trove.nla.gov.au/) - is free!
  
   Regards,
  
   Charles
  
  
  
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   Hi!
   The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available:
  
   NEW
   *DeGruyter: 1000 accounts for English and German-language research,
 sign up
   on one of two language Wikipedias:
   English signup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   German signup https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   *Fold3: 100 accounts for American history and military archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fold3
   *Scotland's People: 100 accounts for Scottish Genealogy database
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ScotlandsPeople
  
   EXPANDED
   *British Newspaper Archive: 100+ new accounts for British Newspapers
   archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BNA
  
   OPEN
   *Highbeam: 100+ accounts for newspapers and magazines
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam
   *Questia: 100+ accounts for various aggregated journals and social
 science
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Questia
   *JSTOR: 100+ accounts for journal archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JSTOR
  
   Accounts are available to ALL global editors with a 1 year old account
 and
   1000 edits. Please notify your local community about the signups.
 Signups
   for now are mostly on English 

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Leigh Blackall
Given that each University spends a great deal of money for subscriptions
and the like, is it a reasonable to think that they should instead pool
that money into the National Library so that everyone can have access, and
the universities can save money?
On 06/11/2014 7:37 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hanks for posting that nick - I was just about to write an email to say
 the same thing :-)
 Getting a National Library of Australia card is free and online, and
 they'll post it to you anywhere in the country. From there you've got
 access to LOTS of open and closed-access databases which you can access
 from home. The off-site access part is the really special bit since this is
 often better than even university-library subscriptions to the same
 databases.
 Note also that State Libraries also run their own eResources systems
 associated with their own library cards.

 On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 I'd add that anyone with an Australian postal address can access a pretty
 wide range of resources (including JSTOR and various Oxford databases)
 through the National Library of Australia's website:
 http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/

 That said, I gained a Questia account through the Wikipedia Library, and
 it's an excellent resource.

 Nick

  Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:58:20 +1100
  From: rich...@ames.id.au
  To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library
 Signups: Free Research Accounts!
 
  And if you are a NSW resident see:
 
  http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/
 
  for lots of 'no charge resources' (supported by your taxes) with lots of
  the big overseas databases and Australian ones.
 
  Regards, Richard.
 
  On 06/11/14 13:48, Charles Gregory wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   If there is anyone who thinks they would be eligible for (and benefit
   from) access to the research accounts as mentioned below, please get
 in
   touch with User:Ocaasi as suggested in the email. Note that although
   there aren't any accounts for Australian specific services available,
 a
   reminder that one of the better local resources - NLA's Trove
   (http://trove.nla.gov.au/) - is free!
  
   Regards,
  
   Charles
  
  
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: *Jake Orlowitz* jorlow...@gmail.com mailto:
 jorlow...@gmail.com
   Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM
   Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research
   Accounts!
   To: wikipedia-libr...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikipedia-libr...@lists.wikimedia.org,
   wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org,
   wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia  GLAM
   collaboration [Public] g...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:g...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia  Libraries
   librar...@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:librar...@lists.wikimedia.org
 ,
   Open Access discussions openacc...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:openacc...@lists.wikimedia.org
  
  
   Hi!
   The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available:
  
   NEW
   *DeGruyter: 1000 accounts for English and German-language research,
 sign up
   on one of two language Wikipedias:
   English signup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   German signup https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   *Fold3: 100 accounts for American history and military archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fold3
   *Scotland's People: 100 accounts for Scottish Genealogy database
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ScotlandsPeople
  
   EXPANDED
   *British Newspaper Archive: 100+ new accounts for British Newspapers
   archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BNA
  
   OPEN
   *Highbeam: 100+ accounts for newspapers and magazines
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam
   *Questia: 100+ accounts for various aggregated journals and social
 science
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Questia
   *JSTOR: 100+ accounts for journal archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JSTOR
  
   Accounts are available to ALL global editors with a 1 year old
 account and
   1000 edits. Please notify your local community about the signups.
 Signups
   for now are mostly on English Wikipedia, UNLESS you have started a
 local
   Wikipedia Library branch like we've done on Arabic, Chinese, and
 German.
   To get started, please contact Ocaasi at [[m:User:Ocaasi (WMF)]] or
   oca...@wikimedia.org mailto:oca...@wikimedia.org
  
   Thanks!
  
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Liam Wyatt
You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national license
has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to hear
that the database companies don't like the idea.

This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of academic
database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The
national library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop
subscribing and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the
database companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.

On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Given that each University spends a great deal of money for subscriptions
 and the like, is it a reasonable to think that they should instead pool
 that money into the National Library so that everyone can have access, and
 the universities can save money?
 On 06/11/2014 7:37 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','liamwy...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Hanks for posting that nick - I was just about to write an email to say
 the same thing :-)
 Getting a National Library of Australia card is free and online, and
 they'll post it to you anywhere in the country. From there you've got
 access to LOTS of open and closed-access databases which you can access
 from home. The off-site access part is the really special bit since this is
 often better than even university-library subscriptions to the same
 databases.
 Note also that State Libraries also run their own eResources systems
 associated with their own library cards.

 On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nick_dowl...@hotmail.com'); wrote:

 I'd add that anyone with an Australian postal address can access a
 pretty wide range of resources (including JSTOR and various Oxford
 databases) through the National Library of Australia's website:
 http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/

 That said, I gained a Questia account through the Wikipedia Library, and
 it's an excellent resource.

 Nick

  Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:58:20 +1100
  From: rich...@ames.id.au
  To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library
 Signups: Free Research Accounts!
 
  And if you are a NSW resident see:
 
  http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/
 
  for lots of 'no charge resources' (supported by your taxes) with lots
 of
  the big overseas databases and Australian ones.
 
  Regards, Richard.
 
  On 06/11/14 13:48, Charles Gregory wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   If there is anyone who thinks they would be eligible for (and benefit
   from) access to the research accounts as mentioned below, please get
 in
   touch with User:Ocaasi as suggested in the email. Note that although
   there aren't any accounts for Australian specific services
 available, a
   reminder that one of the better local resources - NLA's Trove
   (http://trove.nla.gov.au/) - is free!
  
   Regards,
  
   Charles
  
  
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: *Jake Orlowitz* jorlow...@gmail.com mailto:
 jorlow...@gmail.com
   Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM
   Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research
   Accounts!
   To: wikipedia-libr...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikipedia-libr...@lists.wikimedia.org,
   wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org,
   wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia  GLAM
   collaboration [Public] g...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:g...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia  Libraries
   librar...@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:librar...@lists.wikimedia.org
 ,
   Open Access discussions openacc...@lists.wikimedia.org
   mailto:openacc...@lists.wikimedia.org
  
  
   Hi!
   The Wikipedia Library has new, free research donations available:
  
   NEW
   *DeGruyter: 1000 accounts for English and German-language research,
 sign up
   on one of two language Wikipedias:
   English signup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   German signup https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_Gruyter
   *Fold3: 100 accounts for American history and military archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fold3
   *Scotland's People: 100 accounts for Scottish Genealogy database
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ScotlandsPeople
  
   EXPANDED
   *British Newspaper Archive: 100+ new accounts for British Newspapers
   archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BNA
  
   OPEN
   *Highbeam: 100+ accounts for newspapers and magazines
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HighBeam
   *Questia: 100+ accounts for various aggregated journals and social
 science
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Questia
   *JSTOR: 100+ accounts for journal archives
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JSTOR
  
   Accounts are available to ALL global 

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Juergen Fenn
2014-11-06 22:10 GMT+01:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
 You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national license
 has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
 non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to hear
 that the database companies don't like the idea.

 This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of academic
 database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The national
 library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop subscribing
 and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the database
 companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.

I'd just like to point out that we have a similar scheme in Germany
which is widely used and which is not dealt with  as an open secret,
but officially. The scientific libraries at Munich, Göttingen, Berlin,
and Frankfurt have taken over the technical and the administrative
side, while the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft provided the money.
Everyone living in Germany may apply for access to the databases
available.

http://www.nationallizenzen.de
List of databases: http://www.nationallizenzen.de/angebote
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationallizenz#Nationallizenzen_in_Deutschland

Regards,
Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Leigh Blackall
The thing is, all Australian universities are looking to cut subscriptions,
to save money, looking especially at the least used subscriptions. If they
pooled to the NLA, they'd be preserving those niche or historic
subscriptions, and increasing the diversity of options across the board.
How real is that risk of the publishers restricting the NLA. Can we use the
German model to ensure it doesn't happen?
On 07/11/2014 8:30 AM, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote:

 2014-11-06 22:10 GMT+01:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national
 license
  has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
  non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to hear
  that the database companies don't like the idea.
 
  This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of
 academic
  database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The
 national
  library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop
 subscribing
  and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the database
  companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.

 I'd just like to point out that we have a similar scheme in Germany
 which is widely used and which is not dealt with  as an open secret,
 but officially. The scientific libraries at Munich, Göttingen, Berlin,
 and Frankfurt have taken over the technical and the administrative
 side, while the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft provided the money.
 Everyone living in Germany may apply for access to the databases
 available.

 http://www.nationallizenzen.de
 List of databases: http://www.nationallizenzen.de/angebote

 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationallizenz#Nationallizenzen_in_Deutschland

 Regards,
 Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Liam Wyatt
I say again: the NLA has tried, and will no doubt try again next time they
have to renegotiate...

On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The thing is, all Australian universities are looking to cut
 subscriptions, to save money, looking especially at the least used
 subscriptions. If they pooled to the NLA, they'd be preserving those niche
 or historic subscriptions, and increasing the diversity of options across
 the board. How real is that risk of the publishers restricting the NLA. Can
 we use the German model to ensure it doesn't happen?
 On 07/11/2014 8:30 AM, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','schneeschme...@googlemail.com'); wrote:

 2014-11-06 22:10 GMT+01:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','liamwy...@gmail.com');:
  You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national
 license
  has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
  non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to hear
  that the database companies don't like the idea.
 
  This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of
 academic
  database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The
 national
  library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop
 subscribing
  and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the database
  companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.

 I'd just like to point out that we have a similar scheme in Germany
 which is widely used and which is not dealt with  as an open secret,
 but officially. The scientific libraries at Munich, Göttingen, Berlin,
 and Frankfurt have taken over the technical and the administrative
 side, while the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft provided the money.
 Everyone living in Germany may apply for access to the databases
 available.

 http://www.nationallizenzen.de
 List of databases: http://www.nationallizenzen.de/angebote

 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationallizenz#Nationallizenzen_in_Deutschland

 Regards,
 Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Leigh Blackall
Is there commentary or links documenting the attempt? It seems to me to be
something that Open Universities Australia, or Universities Australia
would/should attempt.. more so than NLA...

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I say again: the NLA has tried, and will no doubt try again next time they
 have to renegotiate...

 On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The thing is, all Australian universities are looking to cut
 subscriptions, to save money, looking especially at the least used
 subscriptions. If they pooled to the NLA, they'd be preserving those niche
 or historic subscriptions, and increasing the diversity of options across
 the board. How real is that risk of the publishers restricting the NLA. Can
 we use the German model to ensure it doesn't happen?
 On 07/11/2014 8:30 AM, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 2014-11-06 22:10 GMT+01:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national
 license
  has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
  non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to
 hear
  that the database companies don't like the idea.
 
  This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of
 academic
  database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The
 national
  library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop
 subscribing
  and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the database
  companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.

 I'd just like to point out that we have a similar scheme in Germany
 which is widely used and which is not dealt with  as an open secret,
 but officially. The scientific libraries at Munich, Göttingen, Berlin,
 and Frankfurt have taken over the technical and the administrative
 side, while the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft provided the money.
 Everyone living in Germany may apply for access to the databases
 available.

 http://www.nationallizenzen.de
 List of databases: http://www.nationallizenzen.de/angebote

 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationallizenz#Nationallizenzen_in_Deutschland

 Regards,
 Jürgen.

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikimedia-l] New Wikipedia Library Signups: Free Research Accounts!

2014-11-06 Thread Pru Mitchell
Hi Leigh

The Electronic Resources Australia (ERA) website has been left up by the 
National Library - in case any other organisation wanted to try and resurrect 
this program.
http://www.nla.gov.au/content/electronic-resources-australia

The Council of Australian University Librarians manage the university program: 
CAUL Electronic Information Resources Consortium (CEIRC)
http://www.caul.edu.au/caul-programs/ceirc

Cheers, Pru
Pru Mitchell
pru.mitch...@gmail.com


 On 7 Nov 2014, at 9:38 am, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there commentary or links documenting the attempt? It seems to me to be 
 something that Open Universities Australia, or Universities Australia 
 would/should attempt.. more so than NLA...
 
 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I say again: the NLA has tried, and will no doubt try again next time they 
 have to renegotiate...
 
 On Thursday, 6 November 2014, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The thing is, all Australian universities are looking to cut 
 subscriptions, to save money, looking especially at the least used 
 subscriptions. If they pooled to the NLA, they'd be preserving those niche 
 or historic subscriptions, and increasing the diversity of options across 
 the board. How real is that risk of the publishers restricting the NLA. 
 Can we use the German model to ensure it doesn't happen?
 
 On 07/11/2014 8:30 AM, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 2014-11-06 22:10 GMT+01:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com:
  You'll not be surprised to hear that the idea of a single national 
  license
  has been proposed before (and especially supported by the smaller /
  non-metropolitan universities. And you'll be equally unsurprised to hear
  that the database companies don't like the idea.
 
  This is why the fact that you can get off-site access to a LOT of 
  academic
  database for free via the national library is an open-secret... The 
  national
  library is proud of the service but if university libraries stop 
  subscribing
  and instead tell their students to go via the NLA, then the database
  companies might start disallowing offsite access in the future.
 
 I'd just like to point out that we have a similar scheme in Germany
 which is widely used and which is not dealt with  as an open secret,
 but officially. The scientific libraries at Munich, Göttingen, Berlin,
 and Frankfurt have taken over the technical and the administrative
 side, while the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft provided the money.
 Everyone living in Germany may apply for access to the databases
 available.
 
 http://www.nationallizenzen.de
 List of databases: http://www.nationallizenzen.de/angebote
 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationallizenz#Nationallizenzen_in_Deutschland
 
 Regards,
 Jürgen.
 
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