Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
2008/12/14 Nathan Carter cartma...@gmail.com: Still, it will all help. Cheers! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: 2008/12/14 Nathan Carter cartma...@gmail.com: Which state did you undertake your education in? QLD, but i might only have some stuff from last year and this year (11/12) left and i didn't do that many OP courses =( I found everything i could in my digital collection and filing cabinet, some of it is a tad too detailed, some could possibly never be covered ect but i just stuck it all up at [[User:Peachey88/Sandbox/009]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Nifty! Much more attractive than my list - did you use a bot or a tool to generate this, or was it all done by hand? Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools Still, doing this groundwork can be useful for other things, namely, identifying that the articles on some of our earlier Prime Ministers could use a bit of spit and polish. Here is a table of all their current rankings [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Schools_Selection]] It lists their WP Aus, WikiProject Australian politics and their WP Bio rankings ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Oh, definitely. Unfortunately most of my contacts in Education Queensland are off on holidays right now, and probably won't be back until the new year. I'd imagine this is probably the case in all of the other state education bureaucracies. Still, doing this groundwork can be useful for other things, namely, identifying that the articles on some of our earlier Prime Ministers could use a bit of spit and polish. And yeah, the proposed audience for this is different to that of the original SOS Children selection; because I think that Australian students (and Australian teachers and educators!) could make good use of this resource as well. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:19 AM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools 2008/12/13 Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net: Well, I just went through all the Australian Prime Minister articles to see what state they were in - I expect that we'd ideally want to include all of these if possible. It took me about half an hour to do, although some of that was spent messing with templates and the like. The results are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Schools_Selection/Article_Assessment_Workspace In addition to seeing what we ideally should include, it also gives a good idea on how good our coverage on this topic is (my verdict: good, but could be better). Might be worth asking some schools and teachers: Look, would this be useful for you? The impetus for the SOS Children selection was to make an encyclopedia for them to use in their own schools in third-world countries, i.e. they had a specific use in mind. The choice of the English National Curriculum was just as a handy standard to work to. So who's this for would be useful to check :-) - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Still, doing this groundwork can be useful for other things, namely, identifying that the articles on some of our earlier Prime Ministers could use a bit of spit and polish. Here is a table of all their current rankings [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Schools_Selection]] It lists their WP Aus, WikiProject Australian politics and their WP Bio rankings ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
2008/12/14 Nathan Carter cartma...@gmail.com: Which state did you undertake your education in? QLD, but i might only have some stuff from last year and this year (11/12) left and i didn't do that many OP courses =( ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Still, it will all help. Cheers! On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:41 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: 2008/12/14 Nathan Carter cartma...@gmail.com: Which state did you undertake your education in? QLD, but i might only have some stuff from last year and this year (11/12) left and i didn't do that many OP courses =( ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Thanks Craig I can see some real potential here as a 'bridge' for schools coming to terms with concepts such as Wikipedia, and also for those with access issues (filters, bandwidth and costs). How long do you envisage such a project would take? How much work do you think is involved? It may be possible to organise some assistance with this, but I don't have any concept of what process would be followed to develop this project. Could you give some 'how to' information as background? Many thanks, Pru Pru Mitchell ph: 0433 551 204 me: http://me.edu.au/p/pru me.edu.au/p/pru e: mailto:pru.mitch...@bigpond.com pru.mitch...@bigpond.com -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Craig Franklin Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2008 9:38 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools Okay, there seems to be a bit of interest here, so I've boldly created a subpage for planning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Scho ols_Selection At the moment it's really just my thoughts on the subject, but as the advice on the edit page says; feel free to edit it mercilessly. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: Gnangarra mailto:gnanga...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia-au mailto:wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools I'd be up for that, cant let it have solely an Eastern States POV :) 2008/12/11 K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au Anyone for a mini-project then? =). The existing SOS selection looks like it'll be a good base, but adding more Australian themed articles to it would probably be a nice attention grabber when we go talking to schools. Cheers, Craig I would be! maybe a task-force for WikiProject Australia? And we would have to decide what Australian contents gets in, eg: iconic/well known tv shows/what history content gets in. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ _ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
I'd be up for that, cant let it have solely an Eastern States POV :) 2008/12/11 K. Peachey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone for a mini-project then? =). The existing SOS selection looks like it'll be a good base, but adding more Australian themed articles to it would probably be a nice attention grabber when we go talking to schools. Cheers, Craig I would be! maybe a task-force for WikiProject Australia? And we would have to decide what Australian contents gets in, eg: iconic/well known tv shows/what history content gets in. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
This is a great idea, I reckon - and I've got a few other ideas that might be interesting around this! (more anon) - it's interesting (to me anyways) to note though that recommending a 'schools wikipedia' does kind of imply that the actual wikipedia might not be a good fit for schools - doesn't it? 2008/12/11 Orderinchaos78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps that's something the WMA could commit to working towards? I think that would be quite a reasonable outcome. 2008/12/10 Craig Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really like this product, but maybe we should look at providing a tweaked version for Australian schools with more Australian topics (ie: less American Presidents and more Australian Prime Ministers). Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools Something that we can and should suggest also is the SOS Wikipedia Selection for Schools, all of which has been screened for educational relevance and classroom suitability: http://schools-wikipedia.org/ Anyone who gets a DVD or memory stick of it can run off copies as needed. - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Best approach is the way this was compiled: get a wikiproject of Australians together, use the power of the wiki. Then it needs a dedicated group to work at it. WMAU will help as a name to talk to schools etc. about what they'd like. The SOS selection is based on the English national curriculum, someone could assemble a suitable mix of the various state standard curricula. - d. 2008/12/10 private musings [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a great idea, I reckon - and I've got a few other ideas that might be interesting around this! (more anon) - it's interesting (to me anyways) to note though that recommending a 'schools wikipedia' does kind of imply that the actual wikipedia might not be a good fit for schools - doesn't it? 2008/12/11 Orderinchaos78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps that's something the WMA could commit to working towards? I think that would be quite a reasonable outcome. 2008/12/10 Craig Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really like this product, but maybe we should look at providing a tweaked version for Australian schools with more Australian topics (ie: less American Presidents and more Australian Prime Ministers). From: David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://schools-wikipedia.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Lets look at this differently, Wikipedia/Foundation is about providing free access to all knowledge, how could someone who supports the project consider promoting censorship of the information? 2008/12/10 Gnangarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/12/10 private musings [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip though I would prefer there were better systems in place to ensure that the images are legal (ie. models consenting and of age), and that (per Nick) folk have some opportunity to self-select. I'd be inclined to support a flickr like 'please click here to indicate that you're of age to view this material' sort of thing, I think. Yep and every kid is going to just tick such a box anyway, the intention of the box is to dimish responsibility of the provider not to protect the viewer. cheers, Peter PM. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM, David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say, there's a certain appeal to attempting to forbid kids from reading encyclopedias, so they'll think it's cool. - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
