Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-05 Por tôpico Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
Só se enforcam com isso...

Mas então, o Vini tu que é o 24 né? Ficou inseguro e não falou? \o/ vc fez
no mesmo minuto que eu. Ou é 26 ou 24 :P

2013/1/4 Jonas Xavier 

> O pessoal do WikiTravel desfez a tua ediçao :P reclamaram de fazer
> propaganda de sites concorrentes.
>
>
> On Friday, 4 January 2013, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra
> WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá
> http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE
> >
> >
> > On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa 
> wrote:
> >
> > De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o
> projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho.
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
> >
> > Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a
> importação, eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de
> importações por nós...
> >
> > Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias
> imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio
> próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em
> inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e
> precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou
> chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro
> a segunda :P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes <
> victordalo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!
> >
> > 2013/1/3 Oona Castro 
> >
> > achei: Número de identificação:28
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro 
> wrote:
> >
> > como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro 
> wrote:
> >
> > Parabéns! Muito bom!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
> >
> > TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
> >
> > Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
> balde, Uhaaa
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Gerard Meijssen 
> > Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
> >
> >
> > Hoi,
> > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So you're telling me there's files, but yo
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-04 Por tôpico Jonas Xavier 
O pessoal do WikiTravel desfez a tua ediçao :P reclamaram de fazer
propaganda de sites concorrentes.

On Friday, 4 January 2013, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra
WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá
http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE
>
>
> On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa  wrote:
>
> De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o
projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho.
>
>
> 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
>
> Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação,
eles ( em verdade o MF-Warburg) começaram essa leva de importações por
nós...
>
> Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias
imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio
próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em
inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e
precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou
chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro
a segunda :P
>
>
>
>
> On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes 
wrote:
>
> Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!
>
> 2013/1/3 Oona Castro 
>
> achei: Número de identificação:28
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:
>
> como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:
>
> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>
> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>
> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
balde, Uhaaa
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gerard Meijssen 
> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Hoi,
> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So you're telling me there's files, but yo

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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-04 Por tôpico Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
Que coisa ridícula essa internet Brand, não deixam eu usar a palavra
WikiVoyage no Wikitravel, mas consegui fazer o anúncio lá
http://wikitravel.org/pt/Wikitravel:Bar_dos_viajantes#WikilVlOlYlAlGlE


On 4 January 2013 02:42, Raylton P. Sousa  wrote:

> De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o
> projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho.
>
>
> 2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
>
>> Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação,
>> eles ( em verdade o 
>> MF-Warburg)
>> começaram essa leva de importações por nós...
>>
>> Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias
>> imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio
>> próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em
>> inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e
>> precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou
>> chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro
>> a segunda :P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes > > wrote:
>>
>>> Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/3 Oona Castro 
>>>
 achei: Número de identificação:28

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro wrote:

> como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
>
>> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>>
>>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>>
>>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>>> balde, Uhaaa
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>>> Thanks,
>>>  GerardM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import
>>> because no one
>>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then
>>> I'll
>>> > have to start
>>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the
>>> existence of a
>>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>>> > various bureaucratic
>>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists)
>>> come
>>> > into
>>> > existence?
>>> >
>>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as
>>> we
>>> > have no import
>>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so
>>> authorship is
>>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we
>>> can not do.
>>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who
>>> wrote, or even
>>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>>> >
>>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>>> languages
>>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would
>>> give a
>>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles
>>> in pt?
>>> >
>>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come
>>> to have
>>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities
>>> for the next
>>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does
>>> not
>>> > exist
>>> > .
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>>> > >
>>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  Hi folks,
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language
>>> versions, I
>>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user
>>> Wrh2.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know
>>> how many
>>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was
>>> (There is no
>>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all
>>> these
>>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>>> users).
>>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
>

Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Raylton P. Sousa 
De minha parte pretendo ajudar do que for possível... Pelo menos até o
projeto estar andando com as próprias pernas eu acho.


2013/1/4 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 

> Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação,
> eles ( em verdade o 
> MF-Warburg)
> começaram essa leva de importações por nós...
>
> Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias
> imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio
> próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em
> inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e
> precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou
> chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro
> a segunda :P
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>> Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/3 Oona Castro 
>>
>>> achei: Número de identificação:28
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
>>>
 como vcs sabem o número de usuário?


 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro wrote:

> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>
>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>
>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>> balde, Uhaaa
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>
>>
>> Hoi,
>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>> Thanks,
>>  GerardM
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because
>> no one
>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
>> > have to start
>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence
>> of a
>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>> > various bureaucratic
>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists)
>> come
>> > into
>> > existence?
>> >
>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
>> > have no import
>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so
>> authorship is
>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can
>> not do.
>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote,
>> or even
>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>> >
>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>> languages
>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would
>> give a
>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles
>> in pt?
>> >
>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come
>> to have
>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for
>> the next
>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does
>> not
>> > exist
>> > .
>> >
>> >
>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>> > >
>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>> > > >
>> > > >  Hi folks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language
>> versions, I
>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user
>> Wrh2.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know
>> how many
>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was
>> (There is no
>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all
>> these
>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>> users).
>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
>> that an
>> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
>> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
>> > started
>> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
>> > >
>> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml f

Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
Poderíamos escrever algo para a imprensa assim que terminar a importação,
eles ( em verdade o
MF-Warburg)
começaram essa leva de importações por nós...

Teremos depois disso um tempo para limpar a casa, pois teremos várias
imagens quebradas, pois o Wikitravel guarda as imagens dentro de um domínio
próprio. Eu não terminei de arrumar as páginas do Brasil na WikiVoyage em
inglês, se alguém tiver um tempinho... E esse trabalho tem que ser manual e
precisa de voluntários. Não sei se esperamos pra mostrar a casa limpa, ou
chamamos para todo mundo para um mutirão de limpeza, é óbvio que eu prefiro
a segunda :P




On 3 January 2013 23:59, Victor de Andrade Lopes wrote:

> Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Oona Castro 
>
>> achei: Número de identificação:28
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
>>
>>> como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
>>>
 Parabéns! Muito bom!



 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
 rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>
> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>
> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
> balde, Uhaaa
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gerard Meijssen 
> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Hoi,
> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because
> no one
> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
> > have to start
> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence
> of a
> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
> > various bureaucratic
> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists)
> come
> > into
> > existence?
> >
> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
> > have no import
> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so
> authorship is
> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can
> not do.
> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote,
> or even
> > write from scratch... so pretty...
> >
> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
> languages
> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give
> a
> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in
> pt?
> >
> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
> have
> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for
> the next
> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does
> not
> > exist
> > .
> >
> >
> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
> wrote:
> >
> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> > >
> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language
> versions, I
> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
> many
> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There
> is no
> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all
> these
> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
> users).
> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
> that an
> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
> > started
> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
> > >
> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
> still be
> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
> > > h

Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Victor de Andrade Lopes 
Uhul, que beleza! Sou o 39... vamo que vamo!

2013/1/3 Oona Castro 

> achei: Número de identificação:28
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:
>
>> como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro wrote:
>>
>>> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!

 TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!

 Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
 balde, Uhaaa

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Gerard Meijssen 
 Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List 


 Hoi,
 The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
 Thanks,
  GerardM


 On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
 rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

 > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because
 no one
 > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
 > have to start
 > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence
 of a
 > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
 > various bureaucratic
 > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists)
 come
 > into
 > existence?
 >
 > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
 > have no import
 > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so
 authorship is
 > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can
 not do.
 > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote,
 or even
 > write from scratch... so pretty...
 >
 > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
 languages
 > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
 > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in
 pt?
 >
 > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
 have
 > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for
 the next
 > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
 > exist
 > .
 >
 >
 > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
 >
 >
 > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
 wrote:
 >
 > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
 > >
 > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
 > > >
 > > >  Hi folks,
 > > >>
 > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions,
 I
 > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
 > > >>
 > > >
 > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
 > > >
 > > >>
 > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
 many
 > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There
 is no
 > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
 > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
 users).
 > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
 that an
 > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
 > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
 > started
 > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
 > >
 > >
 >
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
 > >
 > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
 still be
 > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
 > > >>
 > > >
 > > >
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
 > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
 now
 > > on Meta, by the way.
 > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
 > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want
 to help
 > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
 > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
 > > >
 > >
 > >  Indeed ;-)
 > > ___
 > > Wikimedia-l mailing list
 > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
 > > Unsubscribe:
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
 > >
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
 > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
 > +55 11 97 97 18 884
 > ___
 > Wikimedia-l mailing list
 > wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Oona Castro 
achei: Número de identificação:28

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:

> como vcs sabem o número de usuário?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:
>
>> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>>
>>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>>
>>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>>> balde, Uhaaa
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>>> Thanks,
>>>  GerardM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
>>> one
>>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
>>> > have to start
>>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of
>>> a
>>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>>> > various bureaucratic
>>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
>>> > into
>>> > existence?
>>> >
>>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
>>> > have no import
>>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship
>>> is
>>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can
>>> not do.
>>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
>>> even
>>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>>> >
>>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>>> languages
>>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
>>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in
>>> pt?
>>> >
>>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
>>> have
>>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for
>>> the next
>>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
>>> > exist
>>> > .
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>>> > >
>>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  Hi folks,
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
>>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
>>> many
>>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There
>>> is no
>>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
>>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>>> users).
>>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
>>> that an
>>> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
>>> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
>>> > started
>>> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
>>> > >
>>> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
>>> still be
>>> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
>>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
>>> now
>>> > > on Meta, by the way.
>>> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
>>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
>>> help
>>> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
>>> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >  Indeed ;-)
>>> > > ___
>>> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>>> > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > > Unsubscribe:
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
>>> > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
>>> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
>>> > ___
>>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>>> > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>> >
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>>> wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Unsu

Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Oona Castro 
como vcs sabem o número de usuário?

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Oona Castro  wrote:

> Parabéns! Muito bom!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>
>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>
>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>> balde, Uhaaa
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>
>>
>> Hoi,
>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>> Thanks,
>>  GerardM
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
>> one
>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
>> > have to start
>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a
>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>> > various bureaucratic
>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
>> > into
>> > existence?
>> >
>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
>> > have no import
>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship
>> is
>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not
>> do.
>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
>> even
>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>> >
>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>> languages
>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt?
>> >
>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
>> have
>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the
>> next
>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
>> > exist
>> > .
>> >
>> >
>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg  wrote:
>> >
>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>> > >
>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>> > > >
>> > > >  Hi folks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
>> many
>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is
>> no
>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>> users).
>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that
>> an
>> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
>> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
>> > started
>> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
>> > >
>> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
>> still be
>> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
>> now
>> > > on Meta, by the way.
>> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
>> help
>> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
>> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >  Indeed ;-)
>> > > ___
>> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>> > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
>> > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
>> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
>> > ___
>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>> > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>> >
>> ___
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>> wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
>> +55 11 97 97 18 884
>>
>> ___
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Oona Castro 
Parabéns! Muito bom!



On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>
> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>
> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
> balde, Uhaaa
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gerard Meijssen 
> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Hoi,
> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
> one
> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
> > have to start
> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a
> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
> > various bureaucratic
> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
> > into
> > existence?
> >
> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
> > have no import
> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is
> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not
> do.
> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
> even
> > write from scratch... so pretty...
> >
> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
> languages
> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt?
> >
> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have
> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the
> next
> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
> > exist
> > .
> >
> >
> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg  wrote:
> >
> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> > >
> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many
> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is
> no
> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
> users).
> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that
> an
> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
> > started
> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
> > >
> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still
> be
> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions
> <
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
> now
> > > on Meta, by the way.
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
> help
> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Indeed ;-)
> > > ___
> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list
> > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
> > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
> > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> >
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>
>
>
> --
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> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
> +55 11 97 97 18 884
>
> ___
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
Sou o 25, não me deixaram ser o 24 :'(

On 3 January 2013 20:15, Raylton P. Sousa  wrote:

> Eu sou o usuário numero 23... Me lembra aquele filme 
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Raylton P. Sousa 
>
> Uffa... Até que enfim... \o/
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/3 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
>>
>>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>>
>>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>>
>>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>>> balde, Uhaaa
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>>> Thanks,
>>>  GerardM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
>>> one
>>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
>>> > have to start
>>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of
>>> a
>>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>>> > various bureaucratic
>>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
>>> > into
>>> > existence?
>>> >
>>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
>>> > have no import
>>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship
>>> is
>>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can
>>> not do.
>>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
>>> even
>>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>>> >
>>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>>> languages
>>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
>>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in
>>> pt?
>>> >
>>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
>>> have
>>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for
>>> the next
>>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
>>> > exist
>>> > .
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>>> > >
>>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >  Hi folks,
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
>>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
>>> many
>>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There
>>> is no
>>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
>>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>>> users).
>>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case
>>> that an
>>> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
>>> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
>>> > started
>>> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
>>> > >
>>> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
>>> still be
>>> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
>>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
>>> now
>>> > > on Meta, by the way.
>>> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
>>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
>>> help
>>> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
>>> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >  Indeed ;-)
>>> > > ___
>>> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>>> > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > > Unsubscribe:
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
>>> > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com
>>> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
>>> > ___
>>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list
>>> > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>>> >
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Raylton P. Sousa 
Eu sou o usuário numero 23... Me lembra aquele filme 


2013/1/3 Raylton P. Sousa 

> Uffa... Até que enfim... \o/
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
>
>> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>>
>> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>>
>> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
>> balde, Uhaaa
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Gerard Meijssen 
>> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>>
>>
>> Hoi,
>> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
>> Thanks,
>>  GerardM
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
>> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
>> one
>> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
>> > have to start
>> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a
>> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
>> > various bureaucratic
>> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
>> > into
>> > existence?
>> >
>> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
>> > have no import
>> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship
>> is
>> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not
>> do.
>> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
>> even
>> > write from scratch... so pretty...
>> >
>> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
>> languages
>> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
>> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt?
>> >
>> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to
>> have
>> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the
>> next
>> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
>> > exist
>> > .
>> >
>> >
>> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg  wrote:
>> >
>> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>> > >
>> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
>> > > >
>> > > >  Hi folks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
>> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how
>> many
>> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is
>> no
>> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
>> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
>> users).
>> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that
>> an
>> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
>> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
>> > started
>> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
>> > >
>> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken
>> still be
>> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
>> now
>> > > on Meta, by the way.
>> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
>> help
>> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
>> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >  Indeed ;-)
>> > > ___
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>> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
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Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Raylton P. Sousa 
Uffa... Até que enfim... \o/


2013/1/3 Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 

> CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!
>
> TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!
>
> Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de
> balde, Uhaaa
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gerard Meijssen 
> Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Hoi,
> The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
> rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no
> one
> > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
> > have to start
> > from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a
> > community and the previous project and I still have to go through
> > various bureaucratic
> > processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
> > into
> > existence?
> >
> > More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
> > have no import
> > tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is
> > not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not
> do.
> > Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
> even
> > write from scratch... so pretty...
> >
> > I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
> languages
> > of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
> > lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt?
> >
> > Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have
> > the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the
> next
> > semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
> > exist
> > .
> >
> >
> > I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg  wrote:
> >
> > > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> > >
> > > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
> > > >
> > > >  Hi folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
> > > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many
> > > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is
> no
> > > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
> > > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from
> users).
> > > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that
> an
> > > own subdomain is not immediately created.
> > > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
> > started
> > > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
> > >
> > > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still
> be
> > > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions
> <
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is
> now
> > > on Meta, by the way.
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to
> help
> > > doing the XML import, depending on how much
> > > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Indeed ;-)
> > > ___
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> > > wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> > +55 11 97 97 18 884
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[Wikimedia Brasil] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Por tôpico Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton 
CAR..O CONSEGUIMOS!!!

TÁ CRIADA, ALELUIA!!!

Alias, graças ao nossos esforços, eles criaram outras WikiVoyages de balde,
Uhaaa

-- Forwarded message --
From: Gerard Meijssen 
Date: 3 January 2013 18:28
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 


Hoi,
The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :)
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one
> of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll
> have to start
> from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a
> community and the previous project and I still have to go through
> various bureaucratic
> processes, so that maybe one day the project (that already exists) come
> into
> existence?
>
> More than that, we have to manually import the WikiTravel, and as we
> have no import
> tool, we will not be able to bring together the history, so authorship is
> not properly credited, breaking the license, something which we can not
do.
> Soon, we will have to find a way to give credit to those who wrote, or
even
> write from scratch... so pretty...
>
> I really wanted to understand the reason for not bringing all the
languages
> of Wikitravel ... everything was under a free license, it would give a
> lot more work? More work than the work to make 2000 new articles in pt?
>
> Tomorrow I restart the project, and maybe in 6 years it will come to have
> the 2000 articles again. For today I have to cancel activities for the
next
> semester that could increase project visibility, after all it does not
> exist
> .
>
>
> I know that Wikipedia is The priority, but for the love of god!
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 15:33, MF-Warburg  wrote:
>
> > 2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> >
> > > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46:
> > >
> > >  Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I
> > >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Where are they? Again, please publish them.
> > >
> > >>
> > I can only underline this. It would be quite necessary to know how many
> > pages existed there and how active the project actually was (There is no
> > reason for the language committee to make an exception for all these
> > languages IN BULK if some have actually no current interest from users).
> > The XML dumps can of course be imported to Incubator in the case that an
> > own subdomain is not immediately created.
> > Note that some pages for a wikivoyage in Spanish have already been
> started
> > on Incubator, as well as this request/discussion:
> >
> >
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Spanish
> >
> > Besides, can these old wikis from which the xml files were taken still
be
> > accessed? At least it is not http://pt.wikivoyage-old.org/ .
> >
> >
> >
> > >> But there were no users who helped us to check to contents.
> > >>
> > >
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_**versions<
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/New_language_versions>is now
> > on Meta, by the way.
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/New_wikis_importers<
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_wikis_importers>/might/ want to help
> > doing the XML import, depending on how much
> > > pre-emptive cleanup is actually needed; you can try asking them.
> > >
> >
> >  Indeed ;-)
> > ___
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>
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