Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency

2011-06-14 Thread Gautam John
Srikanth - we've been working on it but there are *several*
complications due to Indian foreign exchange and tax laws that are
slowing quick progress.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 14 June 2011 11:11, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 06:22, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from
 various netbanking accounts in India.

 Not sure how safe and compliant with Wikimedia policies especially after the
 recent h[crac]acker attack on the site.
 Also there seems to be a FAQ and deadlines page which states June 30 as last
 date for signing off agreements. Can the chapter take some swift action /
 work with foundation so that we don't miss the boat even if we are few days
 late.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Chapters_FAQ_and_deadlines
 Regards
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[Wikimediaindia-l] 34th Bangalore Wiki Meetup, Sunday 12June2011

2011-06-14 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Hi Folks,

This is again a good news to inform you that 34th Bangalore Wiki Meetup is
just over!

Bangalore Wiki Community's 34th Meetup was attended by 16 enthusiast
attendees.

The meetup went through 2 talks by Tory Read and Achal Prabhala and post
talk discussions and networking.

*Tory Read’s Talk:*

*[ Tory, being a photographer, artist and journalist in profession works
basically in arts, humanity, behavioral approach of humans  to a new
technology and strategic thinking. ]

*In her visit to India she has been visiting places, meeting people who are
taking part in the WMF initiatives and documenting them in the form of
Images/Audio/Video files. For her, photography is a tool to understand how
organizations like Wikimedia work. She explained the focus of her ongoing
project which is based on making Wikipedia more supportive, how well they
could help people, the good and bad points in its organization system,
strategic thinking of Wikipedia in India, both in English and regional
languages. She has interviewed people of varied personal and professional
backgrounds and recorded almost 25 videos which she’d be uploading to
commons. She has met Bishakha Datta in Mumbai, visited Pune Pilot Program
campus, taken part in interacting with 22 campus ambassadors, attended
Kannur Malayalam Wiki Meetup along with Bishakha and Hisham, trvelled
Thiruvananthapuram, Ernakulam and interviewed several Malayalam Wikipedians,
from a very-young-Wikipedian to a Heart-Stroke-Patient-Wikipedian. Tory
would be documenting the history of Wikipedia along with the work pattern,
strategic plans, cons and pros of new initiatives based on the behavioral
function.

*Achal Prabhala’s talk:**

[Achal is an Indian researcher, activist and writer based in Bangalore,
Karnataka. He works on intellectual property rights in relation to medicine
and knowledge. He also serves on the board of the Centre for Internet and
Societyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Internet_and_Society_%28India%29http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achal_Prabhala#cite_note-1and
on the Advisory board of the Wikimedia
Foundation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achal_Prabhala#cite_note-2
]*

Achal, being a part of a long term project on Oral citation has interviewed
many people in India (mostly in Kerala and Maharashtra), attended public
gathering, folk dances, observed process of traditional liquor skills of
local folks in South Africa, interviewed them and recorded their words and
action. His work also pervaded to understand how newspapers in a long span
of their lives never worked as authentic source of information, media,
entertainment industry has popularized languages like Hindi, but the same
language has still not reached more scholarly published articles. During a
long presentation Achal showed the extensive approach and need of Oral
citation in documenting the history of mankind in a more generic way.

Post talks there was few discussions. Arjuna Rao Chavala explained the
Bangalore Community Engagement with Wikimedia Chapter and its role as an
independent body. The main topics discussed are:

   - Membership (*Membership needs, benefits, role as a Chapter member*)
   - Projects 2011-2012
   - Representation of Bangalore in the city SIG

Post discussion Membership forms were distributed. The forms are also
avaibale online at
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividual.pdf

Wikipedians also discussed about taking initiatives to start on campus Wiki
Workshops in Engineering and Communication/Media Studies Institutes which
will bring out students for taking part in Wikimedia initiatives.

Post discussion Wikipedians socialized and had photoshoots. Photos and
videos can be found at
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bangalore_Meetup_June2011

Thanks
*
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 34th Bangalore Wiki Meetup, Sunday 12June2011

2011-06-14 Thread Gautam John
Thank you so much Subhashish for the round-up.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 14 June 2011 13:26, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 This is again a good news to inform you that 34th Bangalore Wiki Meetup is
 just over!

 Bangalore Wiki Community's 34th Meetup was attended by 16 enthusiast
 attendees.
 The meetup went through 2 talks by Tory Read and Achal Prabhala and post
 talk discussions and networking.

 Tory Read’s Talk:

 [ Tory, being a photographer, artist and journalist in profession works
 basically in arts, humanity, behavioral approach of humans  to a new
 technology and strategic thinking. ]

 In her visit to India she has been visiting places, meeting people who are
 taking part in the WMF initiatives and documenting them in the form of
 Images/Audio/Video files. For her, photography is a tool to understand how
 organizations like Wikimedia work. She explained the focus of her ongoing
 project which is based on making Wikipedia more supportive, how well they
 could help people, the good and bad points in its organization system,
 strategic thinking of Wikipedia in India, both in English and regional
 languages. She has interviewed people of varied personal and professional
 backgrounds and recorded almost 25 videos which she’d be uploading to
 commons. She has met Bishakha Datta in Mumbai, visited Pune Pilot Program
 campus, taken part in interacting with 22 campus ambassadors, attended
 Kannur Malayalam Wiki Meetup along with Bishakha and Hisham, trvelled
 Thiruvananthapuram, Ernakulam and interviewed several Malayalam Wikipedians,
 from a very-young-Wikipedian to a Heart-Stroke-Patient-Wikipedian. Tory
 would be documenting the history of Wikipedia along with the work pattern,
 strategic plans, cons and pros of new initiatives based on the behavioral
 function.

 Achal Prabhala’s talk:

 [Achal is an Indian researcher, activist and writer based in Bangalore,
 Karnataka. He works on intellectual property rights in relation to medicine
 and knowledge. He also serves on the board of the Centre for Internet and
 Society and on the Advisory board of the Wikimedia Foundation.]

 Achal, being a part of a long term project on Oral citation has interviewed
 many people in India (mostly in Kerala and Maharashtra), attended public
 gathering, folk dances, observed process of traditional liquor skills of
 local folks in South Africa, interviewed them and recorded their words and
 action. His work also pervaded to understand how newspapers in a long span
 of their lives never worked as authentic source of information, media,
 entertainment industry has popularized languages like Hindi, but the same
 language has still not reached more scholarly published articles. During a
 long presentation Achal showed the extensive approach and need of Oral
 citation in documenting the history of mankind in a more generic way.

 Post talks there was few discussions. Arjuna Rao Chavala explained the
 Bangalore Community Engagement with Wikimedia Chapter and its role as an
 independent body. The main topics discussed are:

 Membership (Membership needs, benefits, role as a Chapter member)
 Projects 2011-2012
 Representation of Bangalore in the city SIG

 Post discussion Membership forms were distributed. The forms are also
 avaibale online at
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividual.pdf

 Wikipedians also discussed about taking initiatives to start on campus Wiki
 Workshops in Engineering and Communication/Media Studies Institutes which
 will bring out students for taking part in Wikimedia initiatives.

 Post discussion Wikipedians socialized and had photoshoots. Photos and
 videos can be found at
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bangalore_Meetup_June2011

 Thanks
 ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Community-Chapter Relations

2011-06-14 Thread Moksh Juneja
Dear All,

Since the past behind, lets all of us move forward with the single objective
in mind to roll out the Mumbai-Pune hosted WikiConference in November 2011.
Lets not fret over the lost time, lets make the best of all the resources
that we can pool in together.

Let the enthusiasm prevail and contagious!!

Moksh Juneja

Social Media Catalyst

Avignyata Inc. avignyata.com

Mobile: +91 93221 21170
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:45, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Open Response to Members and office bearers of the Executive Committee,
 Wikimedia Chapter (India),

 Thank you for your letter of unconditional support for the Mumbai-Pune
 hosted WikiConference in November 2011. We highly appreciate and are humbled
 by this support from the chapter as well as vocal public support from all
 communities across India for for us hosting this event.

 We now look forward to a new dawn by putting the past behind us and hosting
 a benchmark conference. We request communities across the country to
 continue supporting us the way they have and come forward with proposals for
 the event program/theme etc.

 We welcome to Gautam K John and Arun Ramanathan onto our Event Organising
 Committee.

 On behalf of the Mumbai and Pune Community,

 Thanks and Regards,
 User:AroundTheGlobe

 --
 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:46:31 +0530
 From: arjunar...@googlemail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum]
 Community-Chapter Relations


 Hi Wikimedians

 We wholeheartedly supported the Mumbai-Pune bid for organising the
 conference. It has received widespread community support from Wikipedians
 across the country on the mailing list. We also take note of the fact that
 there is no visible active intent to make a bid to host the event from other
 cities.
 The previous note from Executive Committee (EC) clearly indicates the
 intent and commitment to run an annual event, year on year, with the support
 of other stakeholders in the movement. To that end we request that the
 organising team of this year's event keep this an important objective.
 EC had previously made a proposal for such an event many in early 2011 but
 it was then deferred to September due to other procedural hurdles in getting
 all aspects of a formal entity up and running - A bank account being a
 prerequisite to execute the plan.
 EC regrets the communication gaps and discomfort caused in some quarters
 due to misunderstandings of intent which our earlier email clearly and
 directly addresses. The Wikimedia movement is community driven and we
 reiterate that involving the community is and will be a key priority for
 your Chapter and Executive Committee.
 We request everyone's support for the Mumbai-Pune efforts to organise the
 2011 WikiConference.
 Please consider this note a full and complete support of the India Chapter
 for the event. We thank the Mumbai and Pune Wikimedians again for the
 passion and leadership in working towards organising the first edition of
 this event.
 We will engage and work with the Mumbai team and other Wikipedians on the
 specific aspects of the frame work. As indicated in the earlier email, it
 was meant to be a draft seeking comments from other stakeholders.
 There were a few other aspects that were highlighted to which we would like
 to provide the following:
 *Feedback #1: Treat us like equals and stakeholders. Amongst us, chapter
 will then be first among equals.*
 The Chapter is only a part of the Community and should be reflective of it.
 If the impression was otherwise, we apologise and 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency

2011-06-14 Thread Gautam John
Hi Moksh:

That would be great! Thank you very much for the offer.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/



On 14 June 2011 10:36, Moksh Juneja moksh.jun...@avignyata.com wrote:

 Similar to justgiving.com in UK, we have something closer home
 giveindia.org. We can actually use their platform for commerce. Give India
 provides these facilities only to charities. They keep a nominal fees for a
 transaction.

 If everyone is ok with this. I would be happy to connect the individual to
 the giveindia.org.

 Moksh Juneja

 Social Media Catalyst

 Avignyata Inc. http://avignyata.com

 Mobile: +91 93221 21170
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 On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:25, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Iv had some fundraising experience with charities - both in India and the
 UK. The simplest method of accepting payment is tying up with an external
 party such as http://www.justgiving.com/ (from experience - this is one
 of many that specialise in online fundraising for charities in the UK). If
 the amount is relatively small this makes sense, however for higher amounts
 we may as well sign up with a merchant as that would be cheaper if we have
 volume. Rather than requesting funds through NEFT (which is a better mode
 for payments such as membership fee etc), for this you could opt for Net
 Banking or even cheques by post!

 As for 80G, the more you run after it the more the babu will want from
 you. If you put a bundle on the table, the certificate will be in your hand
 in days. However, from experience I can tell you, if you dont bother about
 it - just complete official formalities, the form will come by post to your
 office in due course.

 Kind Regards,

 --
 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:22:03 +0530
 From: ravidre...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian
 Currency


 I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not
 probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically
 my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most
 would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the
 benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit
 would be negligible.


 +1



 So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations
 online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the
 chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the
 next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping
 us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards,
 ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some
 sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction
 cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their
 inputs.


 http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from
 various netbanking accounts in India.

 Thanks for the timely reminder and initiative on this, Srikanth.

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Does this help.

 http://censusindia.gov.in/Footer_Menus/Disclaimer.html

 http://censusindia.gov.in/Footer_Menus/Disclaimer.htmlThe site mentions
 that

 quote

 *Copyright:*

 Material on this site subject to copyright unless otherwise indicated. The
 material may be downloaded without requiring prior permission. Any other
 proposed use of the material is subject to the approval of ORGI - New Delhi.
 Application for obtaining permission should be made to ORGI, New Delhi

 unquote


Here's a very interesting point about copyright, that I just read on a
webpage discussing copyright infringements (and claims, in the USA, which is
sure a good place to litigate):

[a valid copyright notice has 3 elements: (1) the rights holder name, (2)
the copyright symbol, and (3) the year of first publication. Using an
copyright notice in an invalid format – such as omitting the year of first
publication – is not recommended]

The page is a blogpost by a photographer about pressing copyright claims in
the USA:
http://www.jeremynicholl.com/blog/2011/06/13/the-10-rules-of-us-copyright-infringement/

In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
completely invalid.



 Regards

 Abhi

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:

 On 8 June 2011 01:03, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

  OK. No offense taken. Your legal grounding is well established, as we
 all
  know.

 Oh sorry - none meant! Apologies if it sounded otherwise.

  Can anyone please point me to the relevant link (for the census data,
  because the Census Authority is distinctly constituted at arm's length
 from
  the Government of India)? I would like to review the pertinent
 restrictions,
  for this list.

 http://copyright.gov.in/Documents/CopyrightRules1957.pdf

 28. Term of copyright in Government work.- In the case of Government
 work, where Government is the first owner of the copyright therein,
 copyright shall subsist until [Sixty] years from the beginning of the
 calendar year next following the year in which the work is first
 published.

 Where Government work is defined as:

 (k) Government work means a work which is made or published by or
 under the direction or control
 of-
 (i) the Government or any department of the Government;
 (ii) any Legislature in India;
 (iii) any court, tribunal or other judicial authority in India;

 My reading is that the Census Authority is very much a part of
 government. A question that I have been thinking about is whether
 census data (in the raw form and not the presentation) is capable of
 being copyrighted.

 Thank you.

 Best,

 Gautam
 
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation to join Chapter as Member by 23 June 2011 to participate in EC elections during AGM

2011-06-14 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hi Wikimedians,


The Chapter has a statutory requirement that we have our first Annual
General Body meeting before the end of September 2011. We plan on
holding this, in Bangalore, on 24 Sep 2011. (Note: We had earlier
mentioned the date as 17 Sep 2011 but this was changed based on
unforeseen changes in the schedules of EC members and to give more
time for members to join in.)

Filling vacancies in the EC will be one major item on the agenda of
AGM. That said, only people who have become members at least three
months prior to the date of the AGM are eligible to stand and to vote.
Please remember that there is allowance for those members not in
Bangalore to vote as well. What we will do in the next 2 weeks is to
begin a draft nomination process and send it for your feedback and
inputs.

Hence we urge you to  join Wikimedia Chapter by 23 June 2011, if you
have not yet applied for membership. Please spread this message with
your fellow wikimedians and encourage them to apply for membership
immediately.  The Individual membership
formhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividual.pdf
along
with either Cheque/DD payable at par at Bangalore should be received
by 23 June 2011 at Chapter's office.

If you are using online transfer, please send a scanned copy of your
membership form before 23 June 2011 to members...@wikimedia.in along
with your online payment details and ensure that your physical
membership form reaches chapter
office before 30 June 2011.

We are really looking forward to an active and strong interest in the
Chapter from the Community.

Sincerely,

Arjuna Rao Chavala
President, Wikimedia Chapter
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