Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

[Shiju Alex]

For SVG translation, use this tool:
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/svgtranslate/

My suggestion would be, let the respective language community do the
translation. Transliteration may not work work all the time.





On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have done a plain google transliteration for India and Kerala maps to
> hi,kn,sa which is created by Rajesh Odayanchal(
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rajeshodayanchal) using a tool
> http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.5.1/editor/svg-editor.html
>
> This maps were created as a part of Malayalam mapping project.
>
> If it needs some correction; can you please help ?
>
> Thanks,
> Naveen Francis
>
> On 15 June 2011 16:30, Vickram Crishna  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John wrote:
>>
>>> On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna  wrote:
>>>
>>> > In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems
>>> > completely invalid.
>>>
>>> Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not,
>>> per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be
>>> granted the moment it has been created.
>>>
>>
>> Of course, and I am completely in agreement with the sentiments of the
>> commons group, who evidently do not want to see Wikipedia get caught up in a
>> series of fruitless litigations across the world.
>>
>> I was drawing the attention of the list to the fact that the government
>> people, who claim copyright for everything the government publishes, despite
>> the fact that some of it is commons, are also ether slipshod in the manner
>> in which they claim the copyright, or being forthright about the fact that
>> some of it, possibly the data itself, is not intended to be copyrighted.
>>
>> Now, the disclaimer wording brought to our attention by Abhilash also
>> mentions that not everything in the site is copyright, one must look at
>> individual listings within in order to see if copyright is claimed therein.
>>
>> Naveen would do well to check that the information he wants to scrape in
>> order to create his maps is specifically copyrighted, as otherwise it is
>> clearly free-to-use, and the copyright disclaimer is very specific about
>> this freedom.
>>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

Hi,

I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
already received informally from Shiju Alex.

The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
of the event's firming up).

This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian Wikimedia
community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about to start
communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community members
have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be a
mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface as
all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to distinguish it
from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.

Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is name of the
country) similarly.

Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
organising activities.

Warm regards,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs

[Gautam John]

Yes - we could.

Pranesh - is there a form letter you have or can we create one so that
we can send it individually?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/




On 18 June 2011 23:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
> Pranesh, Gautham,
> By any chance, can we create a Petition about this ?
> --Regards,
>
>
> On 18 June 2011 23:23, Gautam John  wrote:
>>
>> Pranesh:
>>
>> Do you have a form letter we could use, please?
>>
>> Something that we could each sign, individually, and send? To whom? By
>> when?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>> 
>> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 June 2011 23:05, Pranesh Prakash  wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright
>> > over works by the government and public undertakings.  We have raised
>> > this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the
>> > Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2]
>> >
>> > However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception
>> > for government works / or even better: making government works public
>> > domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending
>> > harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs.  The
>> > first is a longer term goal than the second.
>> >
>> > Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand
>> > up against it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Pranesh
>> >
>> >  [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r
>> >  [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of
>> > Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM
>> >
>> > On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also
>> >> to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as
>> >> that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is 
>> >> OUR
>> >> govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200
>> >> From: pran...@cis-india.org
>> >> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >> CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org
>> >> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for
>> >> photographs
>> >>
>> >> Dear all,
>> >> It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the
>> >> term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years
>> >> (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60
>> >> years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term =
>> >> life
>> >> of the photographer + 60 years).
>> >>
>> >> So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age
>> >> of
>> >> 75 (in 2061):
>> >> Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1,
>> >> 2037.
>> >> Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122.
>> >>
>> >> The difference: 85 years!
>> >>
>> >> (I hope I've done the math correctly.)
>> >>
>> >> So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph
>> >> to Wikipedia.
>> >>
>> >> As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this
>> >> front by any photographers.  No one has really asked for it.
>> >>
>> >> We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society
>> >> submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised
>> >> this
>> >> to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment.  But the
>> >> chairman of that committee did not take notice.  In effect, the
>> >> Standing
>> >> Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working
>> >> on the exception for persons with disabilities).
>> >>
>> >> Are people on this list concerned about this?  If yes, then we all need
>> >> to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when
>> >> the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Pranesh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Theo10011]

I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file it
for you and get someone to close the request.

Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
Wikimediaindia-l.

Salmaan
User:Theo10011



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>
> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
> and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
> of the event's firming up).
>
> This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian Wikimedia
> community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about to start
> communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community members
> have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be a
> mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>
> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface as
> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>
> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to distinguish
> it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.
>
> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
> their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is name of the
> country) similarly.
>
> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
> organising activities.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

Hi Salmaan,

Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists etc
communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level of
grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence we
are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by or
associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many types,
whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national conference and
perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for the word
"conference".

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file
> it for you and get someone to close the request.
>
> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
> Wikimediaindia-l.
>
> Salmaan
> User:Theo10011
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>
>> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at Mumbai
>> and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an example
>> of the event's firming up).
>>
>>  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
>> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about
>> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community
>> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be
>> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
>> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>>
>> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
>> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface as
>> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
>> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>>
>> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to distinguish
>> it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.
>>
>> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences, perhaps
>> their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is name of the
>> country) similarly.
>>
>> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
>> organising activities.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Theo10011]

Thanks Ashwin.


I understand, let me know if you need my help.


Salmaan
User:Theo10011


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Hi Salmaan,
>
> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
> before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
>
> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists etc
> communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level of
> grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence we
> are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by or
> associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many types,
> whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national conference and
> perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for the word
> "conference".
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file
>> it for you and get someone to close the request.
>>
>> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
>> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
>> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
>> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
>> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
>> Wikimediaindia-l.
>>
>> Salmaan
>> User:Theo10011
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
>>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>>
>>> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
>>> Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
>>> example of the event's firming up).
>>>
>>>  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
>>> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about
>>> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but community
>>> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and be
>>> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning and
>>> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>>>
>>> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
>>> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface as
>>> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
>>> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>>>
>>> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to distinguish
>>> it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania series.
>>>
>>> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
>>> perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is name
>>> of the country) similarly.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin our
>>> organising activities.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> --
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Theo10011]

I agree with Ashwin, I doubt it would make sense to form a list for only
this year/event. it's the same way for other activities, those lists have to
be used again.

Salmaan

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur
wrote:

> No, since we shall know which Conference we are planning for! :)
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
> wrote:
>
>> So are we going to use the same list name for every year?
>>
>> That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is
>> used year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy
>> in archiving isn't?
>>
>> Abhi
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur > > wrote:
>>
>>> On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni >> > wrote:
>>>
 Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
 still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. 
 May
 be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead 
 of
 11). Abhi


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> Thanks Ashwin.
>
>
> I understand, let me know if you need my help.
>
>
> Salmaan
> User:Theo10011
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Salmaan,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
>> Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
>> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
>>
>> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
>> etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer 
>> level
>> of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
>> hence
>> we are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven 
>> by
>> or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
>> types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
>> conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt 
>> for
>> the word "conference".
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
>>> file it for you and get someone to close the request.
>>>
>>> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
>>> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't 
>>> become
>>> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future 
>>> events.
>>> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
>>> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
>>> Wikimediaindia-l.
>>>
>>> Salmaan
>>> User:Theo10011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you 
 to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as 
 an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
 about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
 and be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for 
 planning and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & 
 interface as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to 
 date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google 
 policies.

 We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
 distinguish it from

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Abhilash S Unni]

So are we going to use the same list name for every year?

That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is used
year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy in
archiving isn't?

Abhi

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
> wrote:
>
>> Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
>> still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
>> be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
>> 11). Abhi
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ashwin.
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand, let me know if you need my help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Salmaan
>>> User:Theo10011
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Salmaan,

 Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
 Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
 appropriate to wait for a while for the response.

 As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
 etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level
 of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
 hence
 we are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by
 or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
 types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
 conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
 the word "conference".

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
> file it for you and get someone to close the request.
>
> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
> Wikimediaindia-l.
>
> Salmaan
> User:Theo10011
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>
>> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
>> Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
>> example of the event's firming up).
>>
>>  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
>> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
>> about
>> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
>> community
>> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
>> and be
>> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning 
>> and
>> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>>
>> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
>> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & 
>> interface as
>> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
>> and
>> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>>
>> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
>> distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
>> series.
>>
>> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
>> perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is 
>> name
>> of the country) similarly.
>>
>> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
>> our organising activities.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs

[Pranesh Prakash]

Dear Gautam, Srikanth, and Ashwin and all,
Thank you for your enthusiasm.  I don't have a form letter, as I wanted
to test the waters first and see if there was interest.

If one of you could help me draft the letter (I'm looking at you,
Gautam), that would be appreciated.

I think it would be best if the letter was sent to the Copyright Office,
the Ministry (of HRD, which administers copyright), as well as the
sender's MP.  I'll try and get an online form through which this could
be accomplished soon.  However, this will need also to be translated to
calls, snail mail (registered post so you get receipt on delivery), and
faxes.

Regards,
Pranesh

On Sunday 19 June 2011 01:53 PM, Gautam John wrote:
> Yes - we could.
> 
> Pranesh - is there a form letter you have or can we create one so that
> we can send it individually?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Gautam
> 
> http://social.prathambooks.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 June 2011 23:38, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
>> Pranesh, Gautham,
>> By any chance, can we create a Petition about this ?
>> --Regards,
>>
>>
>> On 18 June 2011 23:23, Gautam John  wrote:
>>>
>>> Pranesh:
>>>
>>> Do you have a form letter we could use, please?
>>>
>>> Something that we could each sign, individually, and send? To whom? By
>>> when?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gautam
>>> 
>>> http://social.prathambooks.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 June 2011 23:05, Pranesh Prakash  wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am well aware that there are other issues such as that of copyright
 over works by the government and public undertakings.  We have raised
 this issue in our analysis[1] as well as our formal submission to the
 Parliamentary Standing Committee.[2]

 However, it is one thing to get something that is good (broad exception
 for government works / or even better: making government works public
 domain) which is not even on the table, and preventing an impending
 harm: decrease of the public domain in terms of Indian photographs.  The
 first is a longer term goal than the second.

 Copyright term of photographs is going to increase if folks don't stand
 up against it.

 Regards,
 Pranesh

  [1]: Analysis: http://goo.gl/Iv69r
  [2]: Civil Society submission: http://goo.gl/9Ws3E / Analysis of
 Standing Committee's report: http://goo.gl/Fs5WM

 On Saturday 18 June 2011 06:40 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Very contentious issue Pranesh. The issue is not only this - but also
> to insure that any Indian government works be in public domain as well as
> that of a Public Servant when on duty (like in the US - after all it is 
> OUR
> govenment and OUR money spent hiring that Public Servant!).
>
>
> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:04:07 +0200
> From: pran...@cis-india.org
> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: aprabh...@gmail.com; su...@cis-india.org
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for
> photographs
>
> Dear all,
> It seems clear that through a new amendment to the Copyright Act, the
> term of copyright of photographs is going to be increased from 25 years
> (which is the minimum required by international copyright law) to 60
> years *after the death of the photographer* (i.e., copyright term =
> life
> of the photographer + 60 years).
>
> So say a photographer aged 25 clicks a photograph and dies at the age
> of
> 75 (in 2061):
> Under current law the copyright on that photo expires on January 1,
> 2037.
> Under proposed law, copyright on that photo expires on January 1, 2122.
>
> The difference: 85 years!
>
> (I hope I've done the math correctly.)
>
> So only your great-grandchildren will be able to upload that photograph
> to Wikipedia.
>
> As far as I can understand, there has been no positive lobbying on this
> front by any photographers.  No one has really asked for it.
>
> We, from the Centre for Internet and Society submitted a 'civil society
> submission' (with the backing of 22 organizations) which criticised
> this
> to the Standing Committee that was examining the amendment.  But the
> chairman of that committee did not take notice.  In effect, the
> Standing
> Committee heard only rightsholders (and groups, including ours, working
> on the exception for persons with disabilities).
>
> Are people on this list concerned about this?  If yes, then we all need
> to try to get this particular amendment targetted and struck off when
> the amendment gets presented before Parliament in the Monsoon session.
>
> Regards,
> Pranesh
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Abhilash S Unni]

Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
11). Abhi

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

> Thanks Ashwin.
>
>
> I understand, let me know if you need my help.
>
>
> Salmaan
> User:Theo10011
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Salmaan,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
>> before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
>> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
>>
>> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists etc
>> communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level of
>> grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence we
>> are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by or
>> associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many types,
>> whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national conference and
>> perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for the word
>> "conference".
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can file
>>> it for you and get someone to close the request.
>>>
>>> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
>>> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
>>> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
>>> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
>>> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
>>> Wikimediaindia-l.
>>>
>>> Salmaan
>>> User:Theo10011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
 Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
 request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
 already received informally from Shiju Alex.

 The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
 Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
 example of the event's firming up).

  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
 Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were about
 to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
 community
 members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and 
 be
 a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning 
 and
 organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.

 The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
 preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface 
 as
 all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date and
 that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.

 We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
 distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
 series.

 Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
 perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is 
 name
 of the country) similarly.

 Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
 our organising activities.

 Warm regards,

 Ashwin Baindur
 --

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

No, since we shall know which Conference we are planning for! :)

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Abhilash S Unni wrote:

> So are we going to use the same list name for every year?
>
> That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is
> used year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy
> in archiving isn't?
>
> Abhi
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
>>> still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
>>> be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
>>> 11). Abhi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Ashwin.


 I understand, let me know if you need my help.


 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Salmaan,
>
> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
> Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
>
> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
> etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer 
> level
> of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
> hence
> we are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by
> or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
> types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
> conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
> the word "conference".
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
>> file it for you and get someone to close the request.
>>
>> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
>> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
>> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future 
>> events.
>> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
>> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
>> Wikimediaindia-l.
>>
>> Salmaan
>> User:Theo10011
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you 
>>> to
>>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>>
>>> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
>>> Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as 
>>> an
>>> example of the event's firming up).
>>>
>>>  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
>>> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
>>> about
>>> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
>>> community
>>> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
>>> and be
>>> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for 
>>> planning and
>>> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>>>
>>> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
>>> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & 
>>> interface as
>>> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
>>> and
>>> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>>>
>>> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
>>> distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
>>> series.
>>>
>>> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
>>> perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is 
>>> name
>>> of the country) similarly.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
>>> our organising activities.
>>>
>>> W

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni wrote:

> Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
> still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
> be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
> 11). Abhi
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ashwin.
>>
>>
>> I understand, let me know if you need my help.
>>
>>
>> Salmaan
>> User:Theo10011
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Salmaan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey Browne
>>> before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
>>> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
>>>
>>> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
>>> etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer level
>>> of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - hence
>>> we are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by
>>> or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
>>> types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
>>> conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
>>> the word "conference".
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>>
 I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
 file it for you and get someone to close the request.

 Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
 WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
 useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future events.
 The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
 previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
 Wikimediaindia-l.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011



 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
 ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>
> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
> Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as an
> example of the event's firming up).
>
>  This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
> about
> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
> community
> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation and 
> be
> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for planning 
> and
> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>
> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & interface 
> as
> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
> and
> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>
> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
> distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
> series.
>
> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
> perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is 
> name
> of the country) similarly.
>
> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
> our organising activities.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released

[Shiju Alex]

Dear All,

We completed one week of Malayalam Wikisource offline
release.
Here is some statistics that we have: (Thanks to Jyothis for compiling this)


Hits to the ISO image : *46,922* (this is just number of hits. This does not
mean that all 46,922 hits lead to complete/successful downloads. We assume
at least 70-80% of those hits would be complete downloads.

   - 3,15,274 hits for mlwiki.in- the site hosting iso image and online
   version of Offline(Yes! :) ) on *June 12.*
   - 4,30,959 on *June 13*th
   - 2,30,985 on *June **14*th
   - 1,04,280 on *June **15*th

Yesterday we have started a torrent link also for the ISO image (
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957). So downloads are happening in that
way also now.

Here are the links by which you can access Malayalam wikisource offline
release.

   - iso Image 
   - Torrent link
   
   - Online browsing
   


Remember, last year the download count of Malayalam wikipedia offline
version 1.0 one week after the release was around 5000.

We found that the interest in Malayalam Wikisource offline is more than that
of Malayalam Wikipedia offline.


Shiju Alex




On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala <
arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Jyothis E  wrote:
>
>> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>>
>> With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
>> project "Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0" at the 4th
>> annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala.
>> --cut--
>
> Congratulations!  I am happy at the level of engagement in Malayalam
> community, which contributes to these kind of firsts in off-line access
> year after year.
>
> Best wishes
> Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

The subject headers added in every mail by mailman can be changed as
per need to reflect the relevant year/conference name.
Creating a new list everytime will be a pain.

-Sudhanwa


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Abhilash S Unni  wrote:
> So are we going to use the same list name for every year?
> That would lead to a bit of confusion isn't, when the same list name is used
> year after year. Different list for each year would also make it easy in
> archiving isn't?
> Abhi
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>>
>> On the contrary, it is meant to be used tear after year :)!
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Abhilash S Unni 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ashwin, How about when the conference get arranged next year. You cannot
>>> still use the same list name, as that would not help in distinctiveness. May
>>> be we should think about adding the year as well (in full eg:2011 instead of
>>> 11). Abhi
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Theo10011  wrote:

 Thanks Ashwin.

 I understand, let me know if you need my help.

 Salmaan
 User:Theo10011


 On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur
  wrote:
>
> Hi Salmaan,
> Thanks for the offer! Shiju is just waiting for a reply from Casey
> Browne before we file the bug. Since we have formally asked, it would be
> appropriate to wait for a while for the response.
> As regards the name, there are now a large amount of activities, lists
> etc communities, meet-ups etc coming up in India. We now need a finer 
> level
> of grading between Foundation, chapter and community driven ventures - 
> hence
> we are a little chary of appending "media" unless it is directly driven by
> or associated with Chapter or Foundation. Secondly, events are of many
> types, whereas we want a list specifically for the annual national
> conference and perhaps other conferences in India, hence the need felt for
> the word "conference".
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>> I believe you need to file a bug for this Ashwin. If you want, I can
>> file it for you and get someone to close the request.
>> Are you sure about the title? I would suggest something like
>> WikiIndia-events or Wikimediaindia-events list. So that it doesn't become
>> useless after the event and can be re-used for coordinating future 
>> events.
>> The naming convention for the list also depends on country codes and
>> previous naming convention, Wikimediaindia-events would be a sub-list of
>> Wikimediaindia-l.
>> Salmaan
>> User:Theo10011
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you 
>>> to
>>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>> The event will definitely be taking place on 18-20 November 2011 at
>>> Mumbai and we have already requested Jimbo's presence at the event (as 
>>> an
>>> example of the event's firming up).
>>> This is a joint venture between the Indian Chapter and the Indian
>>> Wikimedia community and will henceforth be an annual feature. We were 
>>> about
>>> to start communications of the Working Group on a Google Group but 
>>> community
>>> members have asked if our email group can be hosted by the Foundation 
>>> and be
>>> a mailman list. If provided, it is planned to use this list for 
>>> planning and
>>> organising all national wikiconferences in India henceforth.
>>> The advantages, we feel, are that the list and its archives will be
>>> preserved and secure while the Foundation exists, ease of use & 
>>> interface as
>>> all of us are used to mailman lists for community communication to date 
>>> and
>>> that the future of the group will not be dependent upon Google policies.
>>> We request that the list be named  "WikiConference India", to
>>> distinguish it from other types of WikiConferences such as the Wikimania
>>> series.
>>> Should other countries decide to have annual national conferences,
>>> perhaps their lists could be named "WikiConference " (where  is 
>>> name
>>> of the country) similarly.
>>> Looking forward to a positive and early response so that we can begin
>>> our organising activities.
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released

[Ashwin Baindur]

This is so fantastic - my eyes are popping out. Congrats, congrats to all
those involved.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Shiju Alex wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> We completed one week of Malayalam Wikisource offline 
> release.
> Here is some statistics that we have: (Thanks to Jyothis for compiling this)
>
>
> Hits to the ISO image : *46,922* (this is just number of hits. This does
> not mean that all 46,922 hits lead to complete/successful downloads. We
> assume at least 70-80% of those hits would be complete downloads.
>
>- 3,15,274 hits for mlwiki.in- the site hosting iso image and online
>version of Offline(Yes! :) ) on *June 12.*
>- 4,30,959 on *June 13*th
>- 2,30,985 on *June **14*th
>- 1,04,280 on *June **15*th
>
> Yesterday we have started a torrent link also for the ISO image (
> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957). So downloads are happening in
> that way also now.
>
> Here are the links by which you can access Malayalam wikisource offline
> release.
>
>- iso Image 
>- Torrent link
>
>- Online browsing
> 
>
>
> Remember, last year the download count of Malayalam wikipedia offline
> version 1.0 one week after the release was around 5000.
>
> We found that the interest in Malayalam Wikisource offline is more than
> that of Malayalam Wikipedia offline.
>
>
> Shiju Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala <
> arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Jyothis E  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>>>
>>> With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
>>> project "Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0" at the 4th
>>> annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala.
>>> --cut--
>>
>> Congratulations!  I am happy at the level of engagement in Malayalam
>> community, which contributes to these kind of firsts in off-line access
>> year after year.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>
>
> Has the feasibility of hosting the list by Wikimedia.in domain  been
discussed.? As the event relates to India, I feel it may be better to host
it  as part of wikimedia.in.

Thanks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala <
arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>
>>
>> Has the feasibility of hosting the list by Wikimedia.in domain  been
> discussed.? As the event relates to India, I feel it may be better to host
> it  as part of wikimedia.in.
>
> Sorry, I had a backlog of emails and I realized that a good amount of
discussion including considering the option of wikimedia.in  happened on
this topic in the organising committee.

Glad to see rapid progress being made by organising committee.

Thanks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

We were told that only a Google group was possible but since we could get
that from the web itself and since Google can change its policies, the
consensus was to go for a mailman list on Wikimedia server due to its
permanency.

However, if mailman program can be put in place on the Wikimedia.in server
and space promised permanently for the archives, that would be great. As of
now the Wikimedia people noted that a lot of list requests come from India.
In future they may be chary to give more lists especially to our smaller
communities and language groups, especially at the rate we are growing.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala <
arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm user:AshLin, co-chair of the Working Group for a forthcoming
>> Wiki-conference in India in November 2011. I'm writing formally to you to
>> request for a list for that event; a request which you may have
>> already received informally from Shiju Alex.
>>
>>
>> Has the feasibility of hosting the list by Wikimedia.in domain  been
> discussed.? As the event relates to India, I feel it may be better to host
> it  as part of wikimedia.in.
>
> Thanks
> Arjun
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Casey Brown]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ashwin Baindur
 wrote:
> As of now the Wikimedia people noted that a lot of list requests come from
> India. In future they may be chary to give more lists especially to our
> smaller communities and language groups, especially at the rate we are
> growing.

That's not necessarily a bad thing though, since activity in India has
really been growing lately.  You guys actually use the lists -- I'm on
a lot of them and I know how much activity they get ;-) -- so there's
not a huge problem with creating Wikimedia mailing lists for you guys.
 I just thought it was funny that a large proportion of requests come
from India. :-)

Don't feel like you guys are unwanted or are asking for too much!

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] from Creative Commons: 4 Stars for Metadata: an Open Ranking System for Library, Archive, and Museum Collection Metadata

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

I thought that at least a few of you might be interested in this.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas

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cultural-partn...@wikimedia.ch>


https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/27859


Interesting proposal about a rating system for metadata in GLAMs (or LAMs as
they say).

-Sarah



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for a new list

[Ashwin Baindur]

That's good to know - thought it might be a case of asking for too large a
share of limited resources.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Casey Brown  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ashwin Baindur
>  wrote:
> > As of now the Wikimedia people noted that a lot of list requests come
> from
> > India. In future they may be chary to give more lists especially to our
> > smaller communities and language groups, especially at the rate we are
> > growing.
>
> That's not necessarily a bad thing though, since activity in India has
> really been growing lately.  You guys actually use the lists -- I'm on
> a lot of them and I know how much activity they get ;-) -- so there's
> not a huge problem with creating Wikimedia mailing lists for you guys.
>  I just thought it was funny that a large proportion of requests come
> from India. :-)
>
> Don't feel like you guys are unwanted or are asking for too much!
>
> --
> Casey Brown
> Cbrown1023
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Hurtigruta - another strange video project from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

I spoke to the GM, Western Railway for whom User:AroundtheGlobe provided me
the number and spoke to him. He said he'd need a proper proposal before he
could comment on the possibility of giving us permission. He also said that
the request was strange and that he'd have to consult the legal department.
But, he's willing to do that only after we submit a proposal for this
project.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creative Commons talk - Shishir Jha - June 18, 2011

[Gautam John]

Just to add that it was a most excellent session over three hours and
it was really nice to see a varied and very engaged audience as well.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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On 19 June 2011 08:15, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
> hi,
> Just a small little note to let everyone know that the Mumbai community
> hosted the Creative Commons workshop yesterday.
> We had with us IIT-B Associate Professor and Creative Commons Project Lead
> (India), Shishir Jha. We had a nice mix of audience - people interested and
> active in copyright issues, film makers, librarians, publishers, etc. of up
> to 30 people.
> Shishir Jha began his talk with an explanation of the digital economy and
> then showed a 10 min intro (to give you an idea
> - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BESbnMJg9M; if you know where a copy
> exists outside of YouTube, please do share!)  to Creative Commons after
> talking about the various Creative Commons licenses.
> Ashwin Baindur was present from the Pune community and gave us an insight
> into Wikimedia Commons. He also explained why Wikimedia used the CC licenses
> it did and illustrated  it with an example.
> Gautam John, from the Wikimedia Chapter was also present at the meeting. He
> presented a brief about the Wikimedia chapter and invited members to join
> the chapter. He also spoke about Pratham Books' experiment with the use of
> Creative Commons.
> We had a fine and diverse audience who were people who had worked on the
> ground. They had faced some of the problems related to copyrights and raised
> good questions.
> The project (pad.ma - you can find them at http://pad.ma/) have taken video
> of the talk which will be released to Wikimedia Commons. We will also upload
> slides from Shishir's talk if he sends it to us - we have made a request.
> The Mumbai community has sponsored the membership for Shishir Jha to the
> Wikimedia Chapter as a token of our appreciation.
> warm regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Massive increase in copyright term for photographs

[Gautam John]

On 19 June 2011 21:57, Pranesh Prakash  wrote:

> If one of you could help me draft the letter (I'm looking at you,
> Gautam), that would be appreciated.

For sure. Will work on this offline and post it here for further action.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India - Minutes 18-6-2011

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*Minutes of the Planning Meet which took place on 18-6-2011 (Saturday) in 
Mumbai*
**Cross posted on India/Mumbai/Pune lists - please forward to other City or 
Language lists that you may be a part of**
 
1. Name of conference - there were 3 suggestions. There was an idea that these 
could be put up for a week on Meta - asking people to vote for their choice (or 
make other suggestions):

a. '''Wikimela'''
 
Advantage: English/Hindi Fusion
 
Possible issue: Mela has different meanings (could be miscontrued for a 
carnival!)

b. '''Wiki Conference India'''
 
Advantage: Simplicity
 
Possible Issue: A bit to generic.

c. '''WikiMania India'''
 
Advantage: Global image of the name

Possible Issue: Could be confused with the global meet

2. All Documents to be posted on meta where a dedicated page will be made on 
meta.

3. Coordination among OC - Mail, Sabse bolo (Telepone) - minutes to be taken 
and calls to be moderated to ensure everyone has their say.

4. Master list - cross postings! A seperate mailing list to be made for the OC

5. Logo for the event - request for design to be posted on India list.

6. 3 office bearers. Chairperson/President of the event from Mumbai , Secretary 
in Pune and Tresurer from Mumbai. These 3 will be on the ground and will have 
visiting cards and letterheads made specifically for this event only.
 
7. Advisory committee - Hisham, Bishaka, Arjun, Achal 

8. Working groups and functional team: Everyone to choose sub-committees they 
want to be part of - Based on functionality. The OC as it stands at the moment 
will be redone - everyone part of sub-committees except office bearers and 
advisors who will be part of everything/advise everyone.

9. Venue - University of Mumbai (South Campus) was the unanimous choice. Again, 
will be put up on the India list - with a 72 hour deadline for people to 
respond (Similarly all other major decisions to be put on mailing list before 
execution).
 
10. Accommodation: 4 on the table thus far. YWCA, Astoria, Chateau Windsor and 
Sea Green - all within 5-15 minutes walking of the venue, Ensuite, 
Airconditioned rooms. YWCA, Chateau Windor, Sea Green all on par so can be 
offered to people with 100% scholarships. Astoria is equivalent to a 3 star so 
can be offered to those with 75% or 90% scholarship. Another few hotels are due 
to be checked out this week.

11. Teams:
Finance / Audit
Sponsorship
Scholarship
Media and pr
Volunteer
Speaker management
Program
Community communication
Venue
Logistics
IT team
Conference planning
Party plans

12. Finance: Joint accounts to be created 4 signatories (2 from Mumbai, 2 from 
Chapter). New A/c will be in Chapter name and will be for Conference purpose. 
At the end of the year Mumbai reps will be replaced with reps from next host 
and money rolled over for next conference (any overflow). Everyone to pitch in 
with Sponsors. Sponsors could be in cash or kind. Eg. Looking for airline 
sponsor to get people to Mumbai or just cash which can be used for the 
conference.
 
13. Party: Royal Bombay Yatch Club to be asked for a quote as well as Bombay 
Presidency Radio Club
 
14. Decisions to be made on Consensus or by Simple Majority if consensus not 
possible. 
 
15. Time limits: Time limits to be set for everything so that everything goes 
on time.
  
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[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India, 2011 - Proposed Venue (Any responses to be made within 72 hours of this email being sent)

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**Cross posted on India/Mumbai/Pune lists - kindly forward to other 
Language/City lists you may be a part of**
 
Dear All,
 
Bishakha, Moksh, Pradeep and myself visited the Unviersity of Mumbai (Fort 
Campus) last week to consider it as a venue for the upcoming WikiConference in 
November 2011. We had a look at the facilites they had to offer and we were 
impressed. They are offering us use of:
 
1. Convocation Hall - A standalone building within the Campus
a. Sir Cowasjee Jehangir Convocational Hall 
b. Viewing Gallery
c. 1st floor balcony on both sides of the Viewing Gallery overlooking the lawns
d. A small terrace over the porch and the lawns
2. 2 seminar sooms - A/c with capacity of 100 persons each (between 10am and 
3.30pm on Friday - for the weekend we can get it upto 6pm if there are no 
classes scheduled). These are in the adjoining building and are literally 2 
minutes  walking from the Convocation Hall.
3. Use of Lawns
4. Parking for 20-25 cars within the premises
 
Costs:
 
Rs. 94,000/- for the 3 days for the Convocation Hall (discount possible if we 
complete certain paperwork)
Rs. 3500/- for each Seminar room on weekdays and Rs.4500/- on weekends. 
 
 
Pictures (Picture Quality not the best - there was an event with Maharashtra CM 
as Chief Guest the same day so the place was being decked up):
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_28,_Ground_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_28,_Ground_Floor_(2).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(1).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seminar_Room_144,_First_Floor_(3).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Balcony_next_to_viewing_gallery,_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_1.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_2.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_3.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Convocation_Hall_4.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zodiac_Signs_in_Stained_Glass_at_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Convocation_Hall_view_from_viewing_gallery.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_1.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_2.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MU_Lawns_3_(Behind_statue_of_Sir_Cowasjee_Jehangir).jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Porch_of_Convocation_Hall_Building.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Staircase_at_University_of_Mumbai.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rajabai_Clock_Tower_from_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Staricase_to_Viewing_Gallery.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terrace_atop_porch_of_Convocation_Hall_Building.jpg
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Viewing_Gallery_at_the_Convocation_Hall.jpg
 
The Organising Team proposes to finalise the University of Mumbai (Fort Campus) 
as the event venue. Kindly revert with your thoughts - supporting (or 
objecting) to this choice of venue within 72 hours of this email being sent. If 
anyone has any other suggestions, kindly revert with the same, again within 72 
hours of this email being sent. 
 
 
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Name of Annual National WikiConference in India and Meta Page

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**Cross posted on India/Mumbai/Pune Lists - kindly forward to other 
Language/City lists that you may be a part of**
 
Dear All,
 
A tentative page for the WikiConference has been made on Meta and is available 
on this link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011
 
A discussion has been started for the name of the actual conference with people 
requested to vote/suggest titles within a week (by 1PM IST on Monday, 27 June 
2011): http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011
 
Once the name is finalised we will request people to come up with a LOGO for 
the event.
 
Inputs from all Community and Chapter members is requested.
 
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