Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
Hi All, All the videos have now been uploaded at http://www.youtube.com/user/WikiConference/videos -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Spending 400+ hours a week to build Tamil Wikipedia
Hi, We usually measure a Wikipedia's growth in terms of page views, article counts, active contributors etc., I felt that while all these parameters can be good indicators, they somehow miss to reflect the exact value and growth of a Wikipedia. For example, * One Wikipedia may have 50 active editors (doing more than 5 edits per month) and 10 very active editors (doing more than 100 edits per month) But there are Wikipedias which have very very active editors who do more than 1000 edits a month. One such Wikipedian can be equal to 200 active editors ! Also, it calculates mere edits in article namespace. But, we have people working in sandboxes and uploading full articles in one go. There are also all kind of quality improving work done in Wikipedia namespace and other projects. * One Wikipedia might have 1000 good quality articles while another may have 10,000 average quality articles. * According to http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm , Malayalam Wikipedia has only 2.9 M pave views per month and stands 4th in Indic Wikipedias. But if you normalise for the target population of each Wikipedia, Malayalam Wikipedia might have the highest reach. I felt that measuring the actual human hours spent in building a Wikipedia could be one useful indicator of growth. So, I asked the Tamil Wikipedia community how many hours they spent for Tamil Wikipedia in one ideal week in May 2012. The question was asked in June 2012 so everyone only gave an approximate estimate. This included the We had 69 active editors and 20 very active editors for the month. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaTA.htm 14 people answered the question and they spent a total of 294 hours a week. You can find the hours each of them spent in the table at http://tawp.in/r/37sn What is very striking is that many have spent around or more than 30 hours a week which can be thought of as a full time job by itself. So, normalising the data, we can safely say that we spent at least 400+ hours a week. If Tamil Wikipedia is an enterprise, then this equals to at least 10 full time workers. If you can come up with the market price for such high qualified talent that includes Professors, Teachers, Engineers and students working on such a project, the value of work done in kind crosses few lakh Indian Rupees every month. If you consider the value of work done since the beginning, what is the value of our project in physical terms? !! These were some of my thoughts when I went through this data ! Long live Wikipedia :) Ravi P.S. This study could have been more scientific, inclusive and planned to have better accuracy. But the idea is to visualize our Wikipedia's growth in terms of human hours spent even if this going to be a very approximate study. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Presenting Chatasabha
Hi All, New editors across Indic Wikipedias often face problems while editing for which need they help. However, most don't know where they can ask questions or get clarifications as they are usually unfamiliar with village pumps or mailing lists or even talk pages on basic editing. Many existing editors want to help new editors and could appreciate a central place where they can meet and help new editors. India Program has started a pilot to support the Odia community's help desk, Chatasabhahttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:%E0%AC%9A%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%9F%E0%AC%B8%E0%AC%AD%E0%AC%BE. (Incidentally, Chata means student and Sabha means community, in Odia.) This pilot will build on the community's existing efforts - and seeks to provide a structured way of designing and running a Help Desk. It takes learning from English Wikipedia's Tea Househttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Teahouseas well as other experiences on Help Desk and similar services. The Help Desk that is being piloted is user friendly, has guidelines to provide simple answers to new editors and tries to manage the work load of existing community members by providing ready answers to frequently asked questions. The user friendliness of the Help Desk is in the form of being able to ask questions without getting stuck on Wiki markups as well as illustrated answers to some questions. I have put a page on meta which has the pilot designhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Community_building_using_help_desks. Eventually, we would like to help other Indic languages build similar Help Desks. Please do provide your feedback on the talk pagehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Community_building_using_help_desks . Best -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spending 400+ hours a week to build Tamil Wikipedia
Great! Proud to be in the Wikipedia enterprises. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 25 June 2012 16:34, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We usually measure a Wikipedia's growth in terms of page views, article counts, active contributors etc., I felt that while all these parameters can be good indicators, they somehow miss to reflect the exact value and growth of a Wikipedia. For example, * One Wikipedia may have 50 active editors (doing more than 5 edits per month) and 10 very active editors (doing more than 100 edits per month) But there are Wikipedias which have very very active editors who do more than 1000 edits a month. One such Wikipedian can be equal to 200 active editors ! Also, it calculates mere edits in article namespace. But, we have people working in sandboxes and uploading full articles in one go. There are also all kind of quality improving work done in Wikipedia namespace and other projects. * One Wikipedia might have 1000 good quality articles while another may have 10,000 average quality articles. * According to http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm , Malayalam Wikipedia has only 2.9 M pave views per month and stands 4th in Indic Wikipedias. But if you normalise for the target population of each Wikipedia, Malayalam Wikipedia might have the highest reach. I felt that measuring the actual human hours spent in building a Wikipedia could be one useful indicator of growth. So, I asked the Tamil Wikipedia community how many hours they spent for Tamil Wikipedia in one ideal week in May 2012. The question was asked in June 2012 so everyone only gave an approximate estimate. This included the We had 69 active editors and 20 very active editors for the month. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaTA.htm 14 people answered the question and they spent a total of 294 hours a week. You can find the hours each of them spent in the table at http://tawp.in/r/37sn What is very striking is that many have spent around or more than 30 hours a week which can be thought of as a full time job by itself. So, normalising the data, we can safely say that we spent at least 400+ hours a week. If Tamil Wikipedia is an enterprise, then this equals to at least 10 full time workers. If you can come up with the market price for such high qualified talent that includes Professors, Teachers, Engineers and students working on such a project, the value of work done in kind crosses few lakh Indian Rupees every month. If you consider the value of work done since the beginning, what is the value of our project in physical terms? !! These were some of my thoughts when I went through this data ! Long live Wikipedia :) Ravi P.S. This study could have been more scientific, inclusive and planned to have better accuracy. But the idea is to visualize our Wikipedia's growth in terms of human hours spent even if this going to be a very approximate study. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
Yes, all are there. Not sure why your video is not there! On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, all the videos have been uploaded? or is some videos pending? I am not able to find my presentation video. Thanks, Ade. On 25 June 2012 12:49, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi All, All the videos have now been uploaded at http://www.youtube.com/user/WikiConference/videos -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
Thanks Subashish, Der aye, durust aye. But how I wish it had appeared in a few weeks rather than a few months. Any idea as to the reason of the delay? Ashwin On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yes, all are there. Not sure why your video is not there! On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all the videos have been uploaded? or is some videos pending? I am not able to find my presentation video. Thanks, Ade. On 25 June 2012 12:49, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi All, All the videos have now been uploaded at http://www.youtube.com/user/WikiConference/videos -- Subha Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Subha Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
So what do we do now? anyway to get my video? -Ade. On 25 June 2012 18:35, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all the videos have been uploaded? or is some videos pending? I am not able to find my presentation video. Thanks, Ade. On 25 June 2012 12:49, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi All, All the videos have now been uploaded at http://www.youtube.com/user/WikiConference/videos -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
On 25 June 2012 19:42, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Subashish, Der aye, durust aye. But how I wish it had appeared in a few weeks rather than a few months. Any idea as to the reason of the delay? Took a long time to get it from the chap. And uploading that much video is not easy. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
Some of the videos are not cut in length per person. So those who find their videos missing may go through the likely ones that falls to the right time slot and check by playing them all along (or just jumping through short intervals). If someone can additionally add links (of corresponding speech / presentation/event) from the program page to each video (which contain multiple segments) that would be nice and efficient. Thanks, Viswam On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 25 June 2012 19:42, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Subashish, Der aye, durust aye. But how I wish it had appeared in a few weeks rather than a few months. Any idea as to the reason of the delay? Took a long time to get it from the chap. And uploading that much video is not easy. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
