Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: Vote for new Creative Commons India Logo

2013-11-04 Thread John Carter 
Kudos to the winner of this so called "competition".
Hearty congratulations to the winner but, I suspect the selected "winning"
entry for the new Creative Commons India logo lacks lot of creativity.
And still its ambiguous how the best designs got disqualified and the good
ones weren't selected.
Maybe we're looking into a situation where a total lack of creativity &
motivation is observed.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Pranav Curumsey wrote:

> Still trying to contact the designer. Requesting the person who submitted
> the winning design (Number 15) to contact us offlist latest by Wednesday
> (30 Oct). Please pass the message if you know the person. Thanks!
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Pranav Curumsey wrote:
>
>> We have a winner in Entry Number 15, congratulations! Could the creator
>> please get in touch with us? Its essential to complete some minor changes
>> and formalities. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Karthik Nadar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This is to remind you that voting for the new Creative Commons India
>>> logo ends tomorrow; 20th October 2013 at 1 pm. We are very thankful to
>>> everyone who have participated in voting, and will appreciate if others can
>>> help us too!!
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards from Mumbai,
>>> Karthik Nadar.
>>> Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
>>> Bangalore, India.
>>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pranav Curumsey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi folks,

 Just heard back from the folks at the CC head office regarding
 crowdsourcing of our new logo. We would like to Thank all designers who
 took out their time to submit designs. In total 9 of the 17 designs
 submitted are now open for voting, in addition to an option of retaining an
 old logo forwarded to us by Prof. Jha (design 18).

 We hereby request all community members to vote for the design of their
 choice by 1pm IST on 20th October, 2013.

 Link: wiki.wikimedia.in/Deciding_CC_India_logo

 Thank You!



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

2013-11-04 Thread Aarti K. Dwivedi 
Hey,
I am a newbie to Wikimedia-India. I have been working with the Wikisource
community since my GSoC
intern started. First of all, I think this project is a really nice
opportunity to increase our visibility.

I also request Ansuman to be a bit more civil. Being nice and respectful
doesn't hurt. Such kind of behavior
is not acceptable in a mailing list where everyone is volunteering just out
of interest. Also, in the 10 months
that I've been with Wikimedia, I am yet to see such rudeness on the mailing
list.

Cheers,
Aarti


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM, ansuman  wrote:

> > Dear Anshuman,
>
> Hey Abhijeet
>
> > I don't know you. But one thing I would like to share that people WILL
> > teach about civility if you will behave in uncivil manner. I do find your
> > words and tone uncivil.
>
> You don't know me, but i just got to know a lot about you!
> What an analogy!
> When people argue, someone else always tries to finish it, and be a hero.
> And I do find your this particular message unnecessary and uncivil.
>
>
> > Whatever you want to say, you can always say it in better ways and
> believe
> > me, it always increases chances of getting your point accepted.
>
> It doesn't necessarily be that way. And believe me my encounter with
> A2K is other way around. And I'm not here to get my points accepted.
> Actually there is nothing to be accepted, just some facts. I guess i'm
> trying to show you, how A2K doesn't consider something when it should.
>
> I'm sorry, you feel bad about it. Please if you don't like it, you
> could stay out of it. All my messages are meant for A2K, and i think
> it'd best if we let A2K handle it.
>
>
> > But using uncivil way of communication is such a bad thing that after a
> > limit people will not listen to you at all.
> >
> > In short, kindly behave!
>
> And people here have their own beliefs and ethics, and they know what
> they're doing. They don't need your advice at all.
>
> In short, you just wasted yours and my time. Anyway thanks for your
> comment.
>
> Cheers,
> Ansuman
>
>
>
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Ravishankar 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Ansuman,
> >>
> >> I know veteran Wikipedian volunteers (and previous organizational
> >> efforts)
> >> who got got burnt out precisely because of this approach and attitude
> >> from
> >> some in the community. Asking for accountability and transparency is
> good
> >> but that should be done without burning bridges.
> >>
> >> Ravi
> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Use of Fair use messages from Wikipedia in a CD for distribution in India

2013-11-04 Thread Shiju Alex 
A detailed workflow of Malayalam wikipedia CD is documented here (in
English). http://shijualex.in/creating-malayalam-wikipedia-cd/


\\A) Whether we can include all the non free content on CD?\\
>

For non-free images we need to meet few criteria. See this for details
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Images

But I found some of the images currently tagged as non-free in Telugu
wikipedia will not fall under fair use license. For example this
image.
As mentioned in the above blog post it is better to include only
Free-Licensed images in the CD. See the section "*STEP 3 – Verifying the
license of the images*" in the above blog post. To be on the safer it is
better to include only free images from Commons in the CD.

\\B) Whether WMF/WMIN  will approve the use of Wikipedia Logo on the
> cover?\\
>

Yes. Ask WMF/WMIN. For the recent release of the second edition of the
Malayalam wikisource CD also Malayalam community took permission from WMF
to use logos. It is advised to get permission before using the logos in the
CD.

\\C) Any other precaution/disclaimers that need to be included on CD to
> prevent any legal dispute in future.\\
>

Yes. This is very important. See the section "Step 6 – Creating content for
copyright, disclaimer, and other supporting pages" in the above blog post.


Shiju



> From: Arjuna Rao Chavala 
> Date: Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:36 AM
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Use of Fair use messages from Wikipedia in a
> CD for distribution in India
> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia." <
> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> As some of you have noticed, several Indian languages have celebrated/are
> celebrating tenth anniversary. Telugu language community is contemplating
> release of Telugu wikipedia  content on a CD
> with appropriate modifications for School children use.  The CD is proposed
> to be distributed to all schools in Andhra Pradesh.
>
> Out of 9053 (approximate) images, 2071 (30%) are non free images(mostly
> book cover, cinema posters, logos etc) .   We are looking for advice on the
> following
> A) Whether we can include all the non free content on CD?
> B) Whether WMF/WMIN  will approve the use of Wikipedia Logo on the cover?
> C) Any other precaution/disclaimers that need to be included on CD to
> prevent any legal dispute in future.
>
> As Malayalam community has produced a CD in the past and there have been
> attempts to produce an English School Wikipedia CD for India, I would like
> to hear from people with experience and expertise on these matters
>
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna Rao Chavala
> Telugu Wikipedian
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

2013-11-04 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas 
Dear All,

Can we please stop this conversation now? It has been long since any more
accusations are made, but lately we have seen rather far many advises here.
If these words came in-time, they would have served the purpose.

There is no point in keeping this conversation alive forever.

Have a festival spirit and lets get back to our normal lives.

Happy (belated) Diwali and Happy (Gujarati) New Year!

Dsvyas
On 4 Nov 2013 11:37, "Aarti K. Dwivedi"  wrote:

> Hey,
> I am a newbie to Wikimedia-India. I have been working with the Wikisource
> community since my GSoC
> intern started. First of all, I think this project is a really nice
> opportunity to increase our visibility.
>
> I also request Ansuman to be a bit more civil. Being nice and respectful
> doesn't hurt. Such kind of behavior
> is not acceptable in a mailing list where everyone is volunteering just
> out of interest. Also, in the 10 months
> that I've been with Wikimedia, I am yet to see such rudeness on the
> mailing list.
>
> Cheers,
> Aarti
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM, ansuman  wrote:
>
>> > Dear Anshuman,
>>
>> Hey Abhijeet
>>
>> > I don't know you. But one thing I would like to share that people WILL
>> > teach about civility if you will behave in uncivil manner. I do find
>> your
>> > words and tone uncivil.
>>
>> You don't know me, but i just got to know a lot about you!
>> What an analogy!
>> When people argue, someone else always tries to finish it, and be a hero.
>> And I do find your this particular message unnecessary and uncivil.
>>
>>
>> > Whatever you want to say, you can always say it in better ways and
>> believe
>> > me, it always increases chances of getting your point accepted.
>>
>> It doesn't necessarily be that way. And believe me my encounter with
>> A2K is other way around. And I'm not here to get my points accepted.
>> Actually there is nothing to be accepted, just some facts. I guess i'm
>> trying to show you, how A2K doesn't consider something when it should.
>>
>> I'm sorry, you feel bad about it. Please if you don't like it, you
>> could stay out of it. All my messages are meant for A2K, and i think
>> it'd best if we let A2K handle it.
>>
>>
>> > But using uncivil way of communication is such a bad thing that after a
>> > limit people will not listen to you at all.
>> >
>> > In short, kindly behave!
>>
>> And people here have their own beliefs and ethics, and they know what
>> they're doing. They don't need your advice at all.
>>
>> In short, you just wasted yours and my time. Anyway thanks for your
>> comment.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ansuman
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Ravishankar 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ansuman,
>> >>
>> >> I know veteran Wikipedian volunteers (and previous organizational
>> >> efforts)
>> >> who got got burnt out precisely because of this approach and attitude
>> >> from
>> >> some in the community. Asking for accountability and transparency is
>> good
>> >> but that should be done without burning bridges.
>> >>
>> >> Ravi
>> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: Vote for new Creative Commons India Logo

2013-11-04 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
John,
Just to remind you. Some logos were disqualified because they weren't
ratified by Creative Commons HQ.
As for more creativity, I did ask several of designer friends to
contribute; maybe if others had spread the word, we might have had more
entries.
At the end of the day, there were multiple entries and people did vote,
making it an actual competition, and not a so called one.

Cheerio,


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:07 PM, John Carter wrote:

> Kudos to the winner of this so called "competition".
> Hearty congratulations to the winner but, I suspect the selected "winning"
> entry for the new Creative Commons India logo lacks lot of creativity.
> And still its ambiguous how the best designs got disqualified and the good
> ones weren't selected.
> Maybe we're looking into a situation where a total lack of creativity &
> motivation is observed.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Pranav Curumsey wrote:
>
>> Still trying to contact the designer. Requesting the person who submitted
>> the winning design (Number 15) to contact us offlist latest by Wednesday
>> (30 Oct). Please pass the message if you know the person. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Pranav Curumsey wrote:
>>
>>> We have a winner in Entry Number 15, congratulations! Could the creator
>>> please get in touch with us? Its essential to complete some minor changes
>>> and formalities. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Karthik Nadar >> > wrote:
>>>
 Dear all,

 This is to remind you that voting for the new Creative Commons India
 logo ends tomorrow; 20th October 2013 at 1 pm. We are very thankful to
 everyone who have participated in voting, and will appreciate if others can
 help us too!!

 Thank you very much!!


 Regards from Mumbai,
 Karthik Nadar.
 Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
 Bangalore, India.
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in


 On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pranav Curumsey 
 wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Just heard back from the folks at the CC head office regarding
> crowdsourcing of our new logo. We would like to Thank all designers who
> took out their time to submit designs. In total 9 of the 17 designs
> submitted are now open for voting, in addition to an option of retaining 
> an
> old logo forwarded to us by Prof. Jha (design 18).
>
> We hereby request all community members to vote for the design of
> their choice by 1pm IST on 20th October, 2013.
>
> Link: wiki.wikimedia.in/Deciding_CC_India_logo
>
> Thank You!
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

2013-11-04 Thread ansuman 
Yes, what is the issue now? I thought the discussion was over and closed!

Where have you been brother, i was sure you were following! I hope no
one's blaming anyone for my words. Please note, everything i have
said/written here is my own words. If you have any issues with them,
please direct them to me if needed. And if anybody wants me to
apologise, let me know i don't mind doing that. I have said everything
here with good faiths and intentions, and i'm open to any further
discussions. Please CC me now on here on this thread, if your message
is meant for me. Thanks.

Ansuman

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

2013-11-04 Thread Vishnu T 
Kudos Sudhanwa! I couldn't help but repeat, what a wonderful gesture!

+1 to Ashwin.

Vishnu

On Sunday, 3 November 2013, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:
> What a wonderful gesture! If only everyone followed your lead in social
good instead of donating blidly to temples, bursting crackers, etc.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family
earlier. Here is some background if you are not aware of it.
>>
>> On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is
primarily for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any
language using Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on the
occasion of Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th March 2009) ,
we released the additional fonts to complete the "AksharYogini font
family". This font family was/is made available on the site
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com for free usage/distribution/sharing.
>>
>>
>> Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar,
we are now releasing an updated "AksharYogini font".  This font is also
available on the same website http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com
>>
>> This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows)
operating systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is
changed. Also, it has additional characters for the current Unicode
standard and the Rupee Sign is also included.
>>
>> Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open Font
License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely use it in
their packaging.
>>
>> Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can
download it from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .
>>
>> Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font "
aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com " You can also comment on the guestbook on the
website.
>> Do share this news and also the font.
>>
>> Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>> -Sudhanwa
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