Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
These stats are most heartening. Congratulations! Bishakha On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all, The edit counter tool for Women's History Month has been updated with the list of participants and number of edits. Please have a look here: http://wikiwomen.in/ If you have any comments or suggestions, please write to Jephhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jeph_paul, Harsh https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991 or Aartihttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rtdwivedi . On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Abhijeet Safai abhijeet.sa...@gmail.com wrote: I gave some incorrect information by mistake in previous mail. Because of her work the term which has appeared in medical literature is - Women's Health. Thanks. -- Abhijeet Safai On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Abhijeet Safai abhijeet.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I know. But I feel that this is an opportunity to contribute more about her in the article. Her work is one of the great works where policies of WHO and other organizations have changed. The word 'mother and child health' appeared because of her in the medical literature which was only 'reproductive health' previously! She in a way shown as how the fields like medicine are also men dominated and how and when medicine thinks about women - only in terms of reproductive health! She is a feminist and says it with lot of pride. Her paper about reproductive tract infections is also a landmark paper and it has given a new dimension to the subject. In her paper on white discharge she mentions that nearly 90% women face these issues which was unknown to medicine till publication of her paper! She has received awards by the hands of president of India. Thanks. -- Abhijeet Safai On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: That's a good call out! Please feel free to add her name. There is a Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhay_and_Rani_Bang that talks about her work. But we could have a page exclusively for her. Thanks! On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Abhijeet Safai abhijeet.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Just a suggestion. Dr. Rani Bang is a great scientist who has received several awards of national and international level. Her name also can be added in the list. Thanks. -- Abhijeet Safai On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 3:42 AM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We have created a page at http://wikiwomen.in/ which lists all the articles that are are being created and edited during the course of the edit a thon. Any article added to the category https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_created_or_expanded_during_Women%27s_History_Month_%28India%29_-_2014, will be tracked by the page. It gives the live stats on the number of edits. Jeph On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Abhijeet Safai abhijeet.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Great! On Mar 14, 2014 11:00 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog posthttps://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/03/13/celebrating-womens-day-the-wiki-way/to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientistshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/International_Women%27s_Day,_India_(2014)edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. Find more details about the event herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/International_Women%27s_Day,_India_(2014). Please add your name as a participant and feel free to start editing over a cup of coffee :-) There is an opt inhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/17_YMl1bLV0ove3Dsn-LhNQkNNiszWpUag0Ko01tm_kI/viewformwe would like you to fill up so that we can understand editor behavior better. Please fill up this form if you are participating in the edit-a-thon. In case you have questions, do write to Nethahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Netha_Hussain, Parul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ParulThakur or Jephhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeph_paul ! Thanks! Parul http://in.linkedin.com/in/parulthakur http://happinessandfood.wordpress.com/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
Excellent work. Just pointing out that there were several articles which were edited outside the two Edit-a-thons. These articles are not being counted by the script. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:07 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
Hi, @Srikant, Add 'Category:Articles_created_or_expanded_during_Women's_History_Month_(India)_-_2014' to the article it will get picked up by the script. Its a hidden category. @Pratik Lahoti Edit count is far from a perfect measure of editor contribution :-). It is just one of many metrics we could use. As such it also depends on an editors style, small/frequent edits to few/big edits. Sorting the list by edit count may not present the right picture. Would love to hear what you think. Jeph On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Excellent work. Just pointing out that there were several articles which were edited outside the two Edit-a-thons. These articles are not being counted by the script. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:07 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
The tool only picks up en articles currently. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:20 PM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, @Srikant, Add 'Category:Articles_created_or_expanded_during_Women's_History_Month_(India)_-_2014' to the article it will get picked up by the script. Its a hidden category. @Pratik Lahoti Edit count is far from a perfect measure of editor contribution :-). It is just one of many metrics we could use. As such it also depends on an editors style, small/frequent edits to few/big edits. Sorting the list by edit count may not present the right picture. Would love to hear what you think. Jeph On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Excellent work. Just pointing out that there were several articles which were edited outside the two Edit-a-thons. These articles are not being counted by the script. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:07 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Treasurer, Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
Dear A. Mani, The criteria being used to determine notability of an academician is WP:ACADEMIC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics). As for the definition of women, both cis and trans women are considered under the edit-a-thon. The initial list of suggested articles were initially created based on the book Lilavati's daughtershttp://www.ias.ac.in/womeninscience/liladaug.html brought out by the Indian Academy of Sciences. This edit-a-thon is a continuation of the Lilavati's daughters edit-a-thonhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lilavati's_Daughters_Edit-a-thon which was initially started off on meta wiki in 2013. I am sure that there would be many other notable Indian women scientists whose biographies are not present on Wikipedia. Please feel free to create articles about them, or at least add their names to the list of articles needing creation herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/International_Women%27s_Day,_India/2014#Women_Scientists_Edit-a-thon . If any of the articles http://wikiwomen.in/ created during the edit-a-thon does not match the notability criteria for an academician, please point that out on the talk page of the respective article. Please be informed that whether or not one person should have a Wikipedia article is not under her will. If somebody creates a Wikipedia article about you, you will have to live with it as long as you are notable :-) Let me know if you have any more questions! Regards Netha On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:07 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com http://nethahussain.blogspot.comswethaambari.wordpress.com http://swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
Hi Pratik, As far as I understand, assessing the quality of contributions the metrics needed for it are open questions. We can be sure that edit count alone is not an effective measure. Some of them that I have come across are: - Bytes added. - Time the edits have continued to remain in the article (Longevity of the content added) I'll send a few other relevant links when i find them. Jeph On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Pratik Lahoti pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:20 PM, jeph jephp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, @Pratik Lahoti Edit count is far from a perfect measure of editor contribution :-). It is just one of many metrics we could use. As such it also depends on an editors style, small/frequent edits to few/big edits. Sorting the list by edit count may not present the right picture. Would love to hear what you think. Yeah, you are right. That would depend on the editor style. But as a viewer, I din't find it cool actually seeing a pattern somewhat like 3..7...5...117...8! But again, you people have sorted it alphabetically, which also makes sense. Makes me raise another question - If at all it matters, how would we come to know the top contributors if edit count is not the only metric? How will you be judging them? --Pratik ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
These are excellent criteria sent by Dr Mani - carefully thought out. It might be good to adopt them while deciding on notability. All best to the women in science editathon. Tejaswini On 16 March 2014 00:37, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications (HEIRA) Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) Distinguished Adjunct Professor of Humanities, Lingnan University, Hong Kong Advisor, Access to Knowledge Programme, Centre for Internet and Society Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science (CCS-IISc) t: 91-80-41202302 http://heira.in www.cscs.res.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Women Scientists edit-a-thon: March 15-16
Congrats, this is very encouraging and motivating! Hoping to see more of these articles. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote: These are excellent criteria sent by Dr Mani - carefully thought out. It might be good to adopt them while deciding on notability. All best to the women in science editathon. Tejaswini On 16 March 2014 00:37, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote: India has a lot of successful women scientists who have made a mark in their respective fields. However, it is unfortunate that these women still do not have an existence on Wikipedia. Read this blog post to know a little more. We are organizing a Women Scientists edit-a-thon tomorrow and day after. Join us by editing as many articles as possible during these the two days. Apart from creating articles, you could also help us by correcting or expanding existing ones. Adding names to the existing list of scientists would go a long way too. What criteria (relative academic accomplishments) is being used for qualifying as a women scientist? Some days ago, I saw some entries for fresh people with a couple of publications (it was part of an earlier round of editing). One cannot really go by the few awards (politicized) and such. If that is the criteria, then I know at least 95 women who would fit in. If I set the cut off point at 5 years in research, then the number would be 60 - 72+ (I am not sure ). If the criteria is 100pp of publication in refereed international journals or 10 years in research or some high impact work (requires peer review), then the number would be much less. ps. I don't want an article on myself as I have enough publicity :) Best A. Mani A. Mani [Last_Name. First_Name Format] CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications (HEIRA) Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS) Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) Distinguished Adjunct Professor of Humanities, Lingnan University, Hong Kong Advisor, Access to Knowledge Programme, Centre for Internet and Society Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science (CCS-IISc) t: 91-80-41202302 http://heira.in www.cscs.res.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
