[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia-mania

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Thought this might be interesting read. Just read it today. Apologies if
someone has already posted it.

Wikipedia-mania

Read Story:
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/wikipedia-mania-468968

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] accommodation in Delhi - can some one help?

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

There are various pgs as well as cheap but decent hotels that would be
available here. Areas near Karol Bagh and Paharganj would give you various
cheap hotels, though Paharganj wouldn't be the best idea. Still, I've
stayed in Hotel Shelton <http://www.booking.com/hotel/in/shelton.html> in
Paharganj and it's very near the metro and not too bad either.

Also in current weather, you will get a decent non ac room for around 900
bucks. Other than that checking online would give you access to better
accommodation. There are lots of people who would love to rent their pgs or
apartments as at this time most students go back home for holidays.

Karol Bagh side would be slightly more expensive ~ 1600. I stay near Karol
Bagh, so if you require any help, please inform me. These areas are very
well connected via Metro and close to the New Delhi Railway station. Other
areas will drive up the cost, esp in South Delhi. I myself would've joined
this workshop but my schedule might not permit it.

Feel free to drop me a message or call if you need any assistance. I'm not
sharing my number as this is an open list, but drop me a separate email,
and I'll help out the best way I can.


On 25 December 2013 00:03, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:

> Gujarati Samaj in old delhi, is very affordable, not sure how far your
> venue is from there though. This place is conveniently located for Delhi
> Metro, 5 min walk from ISBT. But I think you need to have one Gujarati in
> your group.
>
> Regards,
> Dhaval
> On 24 Dec 2013 18:18, "Sowmyan Tirumurti"  wrote:
>
>> While we plan to be in Delhi from 29th Dec to 8th Jan for the GLAM
>> project, our effort to get guest house accommodation at Delhi University
>> South Campus for this period did not materialize. Can any one help us with
>> some affordable source of accommodation? We are looking for accommodation
>> for 4 people. Two people from 29/31Dec to 8 Jan, and two people from 2 Jan
>> to 6 Jan.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sowmyan
>> 9632911650
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Academy in Goa in Dec

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey, I'd love to help out regarding this. Also being in Pune, it'll be
quite easy for me also to travel to Goa.

I'd really like to get back to the movement with as much enthusiasm I had
before. So I'd love to help out regarding this one.
On Dec 8, 2012 1:12 PM, "Nitika Tandon"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I wanted to take this opportunity to thank Harriet Vidyasagar and
> Frederick Noronha for helping us kick start Wikipedia activities in Goa.
> They have put in a lot of hard work in the past few weeks to organise
> Wikipedia events. So far we have 3 confirmed events between 12th Dec and
> 14th Dec while they are still working on squeezing in more events during
> these dates. I wanted to share details of these events with everyone and
> also invite suggestions.
>
> *Details of events*
>
>1. A WikiWorkshop to introduce students and a few faculty on how to
>edit the Wikipedia on12th and 13th December from 2.30 pm to 4.30 pm at Goa
>University, computer lab. The lab has 24 computers and we will have about 6
>persons with laptops i.e a total of 30 persons. We got 60 registrations for
>this event but since the lab has limited capacity we'll only be able to
>accommodate first 30 registrations. We're trying to host another academy
>for the remaining 30 sometime on the 14th provided we're able to arrange
>for a venue. Even if no venue is available; we'll still try and do a small
>talk with these registrations. We definitely don't want to loose out the
>opportunity of touching base with 30 more interested people.
>2. We have a meeting scheduled with The Krishnadas Shama State Central
>Library, Patto, Panjim on 13th morning from 10.30 to 12.30 noon to
>discuss GLAM opportunities.
>3. Harriet and her team are still trying to organise the following:
>
>
>- Public program to create awareness on about Wikipedia and how to
>contribute at Central Library
>- Event at NIE where all are invited on the topic of  Wikimedia in
>Schools and Wikipedia for Teachers
>
> *Calling for participation as volunteers*
> *
> *
> Frederick is a long time Wikipedian who lives in Goa and will be available
> to provide on ground support for these meetings. I wanted to check if we
> can have 2 more or at least one more volunteer from Mumbai or Pune who
> could come down to Goa for these events. CIS will be able to support
> train/bus travel for these volunteers and Goa University will take care of
> accommodation in their university guest house. Please respond at the
> earliest so that we can make arrangements accordingly.
>
> Looking forward to hear from al of you. Thanks a ton!
>
> Regards,
> Nitika
>
>
>
> On 07-Dec-2012, at 12:50 AM, Nitika Tandon wrote:
>
>
> On 06-Dec-2012, at 1:21 PM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *
> فريدريك نورونيا wrote:
>
> Dear Nitika, Is it possible to get in touch with others who have been
> contributing to the Goa pages in the past?
>
> Absolutely! We can invite Wikipedians from Goa 
> 
> and members of WikiProject Goa
> .
>
> Also, some of us have bandwidth problems here, otherwise we would have
> contributed more. Is it possible to set up a small team to continue this
> process, in Goa itself, after the workshop is done?
>
> The Central Library has a lot of space and tend to be supportive in such
> work. Its Curator, Carlos Fernandes, was even supportive when Richard
> Stallman of the FSF visited many years ago. They understand the importance
> of creating sharable resources. At the library, you can spot some displays
> of open journal websites, etc which researchers can freely access. You
> could build on such synergies.
>
> We have a meeting scheduled with the State Central Library on the 13th Dec
> at 10.30am. We can most definitely work out a plan with them. I'm hoping
> you'll be able to join for this meeting too.
>
> I have raised a ticket to lift IP rate limit:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42767. Hope it gets
> resolved at the earliest.
>
> Thanks
> Nitika
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Kolkata Meetup 10 Report

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Dear all,

Firstly let me begin with tons and tons of apologies as I am terribly late
with this report and in no way can I justify being such late.
Unfortunately, due to various reasons primarily studies and traveling, I
could not come out with this faster.

Wikipedians in Kolkata met for the 10th time at Atmabikash Samiti on the
19th of Hamy, 2012. There was a large number of members upto at least 10
people, my memory is a bit clouded now. Incidentally, being a bengali and
well as being born and brought up in Kolkata, this was my first meetup with
the Kolkata community. I had just met Jayanta da at WikiConference 11 where
we shared our stories of Wikipedia.

To be honest, it was one of the warmest welcomes I've received. The meetup
started with informal introductions, as I knew none and other than Jayanta
da, none knew me. I told them my story of IEP student to Campus Ambassador
to editor and promoter of the Wikimedia movement, while they each told me
theirs. The date on which it was held, 19th May, was also special, which
was unknown to many of us and this was highlighted by guest of honour, Dr.
Mohit K Ray, who has a Ph D in Engineering and is an Environmental
Consultant.

We all know about 21st February
which started the Bengali
Language Movement ,
now celebrated as International Mother Language Day. However, it is unknown
to most of us that an event of equivalent importance occurred on the 19th
of May also in our country. The event which was not initially on Wikipedia
and has now been added reads, "1961  –
11 bengali martyrs gave up their life in a police firing in
SilcharRailway Station,
Assam , while demanding state
recognition of bengali language in the Bengali Language
Movement."
Dr. Ray highlighted how little is know about such an event within our own
country. He also discussed the growing separation in linguistic differences
between the bengali language spoken by Indians, (i.e. West Bengali) and the
bengali language spoken by Bangladesh.

He also cited how the history of Bengali language is bifurcating into two
streams based on these differences. However, after and intense discussion
as to what then should be the future of Wikipedia, Jayanta da pointed out
that till date, other than a few spelling disputes, there have not been too
many arguments between Indian (Bengali) Wikipedians and Bangladeshi
Wikipedians regarding Bengali Wikipedia. In fact the collaboration that
both countries enjoy is unique in its own in that the two countries are
united by bengali wikipedia sharing common goals and interests.

Other than this pivotal topic, other topics discussed brought forward by
both Jayanta da, Kalyan da, myself as well as everyone present were:
1. How Bengali Wikipedia is increasing day by day.
2. How it the need of the hour is to increase Indian editors in Bengali
Wikipedia as Jayanta da pointed out in WCI 11, (95% contribs are from
Bangladesh).
3. How to engage various institutes and libraries into putting content into
Wikipedia.
4. How to engage the already interested youth of West Bengal into editing
Wikipedia. (As in previous instances, they have already showed a lot of
energy and interest).
5. How to better conduct meetups, and spread the news about the meetups.

However, each of these topics required vast discussions and as such, it was
decided to put these on the agenda list for the next meetup. We all shared
a cup of tea and the meeting was put to a close.

I've tried to keep this report as short and simple as possible. My
experience with the Kolkata community was truly wonderful and am proud to
be part of such a bunch of warm loving individuals who accepted me into
their inner circle without having to jump too many hoops. I hope I can keep
on contributing to their efforts in every which way I can in the future.
Wish the Kolkata community all the best for the next discussion.

Just a few points of observation (my two paisa):
1. The discussions need more control and organization. Most of us generally
started on the same topic but the discussion kept on spiraling to a whole
bunch of different topics which Kalyan da kept on mentioning.
2. Due to the absence of a laptop, we could not do any online editing.
Though this was the result of confusion, maybe we could have a rotating
system of who brings the laptop in time.
3. We need to plan more frequent meetups so that as a community we can
function better.
4. If possible have online editing sessions, because as a community only a
handful of the people were really experienced with editing, most of the
people present were very new with just a few edits clocked in. If we want
to be taken seriously, everyone must edit and build up their own
experience, otherwise we will never figure ou

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Rare Book Society of India

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

No I don't know about any of the legal formalities, hence asking do we need
to contact them and ask whether they are willing...I mean, do they hold the
copyright esp to photos of buildings also that are over 60 years old (the
photos not the buildings).

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> 2012/5/16 Debanjan Bandyopadhyay :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just saw this page [1] on facebook, it supposedly belongs to the Rare
> Book
> > Society of India and they have a lot of old images, older than 60 years.
> > Hence, do you think these can be uploaded to Wikipedia and maybe we can
> ask
> > them whether they themselves would like to do as such. If am not wrong,
> > maybe the GLAM team would know more about this?
> >
> > [1] -
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rare-Book-Society-of-India/196174216674
>
> That Facebook page has lots of beautiful images and not just of books.
>
> Any way you can get them is good, but uploading them as DjVu files
> would help transcribing them in Wikisource.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Rare Book Society of India

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hi all,

I just saw this
page[1]
on facebook, it supposedly belongs to the Rare Book Society of India
and they have a lot of old images, older than 60 years. Hence, do you think
these can be uploaded to Wikipedia and maybe we can ask them whether they
themselves would like to do as such. If am not wrong, maybe the GLAM team
would know more about this?

[1] - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rare-Book-Society-of-India/196174216674


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Vodafone advertisement -- Internet is fun, Wikipedia

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Don't know about free, but their detailed
ad[1]
mentions two things beneficial to our cause...Seems all this much
outreach is finally working...

1. Access more than 21 million articles in 285 languages - Hope people now
realise Wikipedia is more than just English Wikipedia.
2. Create and edit your own articles. - Don't know how risky the statement
is but the fact that Wikipedia can be edited is now widespread. I just hope
people don't think Vodafone lets you edit Wikipedia and that otherwise
Wikipedia can't be edited.

[1] http://www.vodafone.in/internetisfun/pages/home.aspx?cid=kol

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Mitra.
> Though I think someone should get in touch with Vodafone IN and find out
> more info.
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Mitra sharma wrote:
>
>> I think its a great start! It tells you Wiki is fun and its available at
>> your on your phone now...and its aired during matches, so it should help
>> create awarenessWay to go guys! :)
>>
>>
>> On 14 May 2012 11:31, Karthik Nadar  wrote:
>>
>>> The video doesn't mention if the access is free, and hence i neither
>>> think so. Great ad tough, I liked it!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Here's the ad:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqNdhzUPpM&feature=plcp
 Is it free access or something?

 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <
 srik@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just saw an ad mentioning Wikipedia on the "Internet is fun" series
> of advertisement aired during IPL. It would probably be available soon at
> their youtube channel[1]. Are we missing any announcement or its just that
> Vodafone is using Wikipedia in their advertisements. Nonetheless, good
> branding on television :)
>
> [1] http://www.youtube.com/user/vodafoneipl/videos
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mediawiki version upgrade

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Dhaval,

I meant no offence in anyway, I was pointing out the same, that using a
particular browser is upto them, its there choice and this meant not only
you but like Srikanth pointed out 4% of users. I just asked it you could
edit temporarily while the bug was being fixed. The question was whether or
not the bug should be fixed, the question was, whether it would deter your
contributions. But I hope the issue is resolved now as Srikanth pointed
out. Happy editing. :)

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>
>> Arun,
>>
>> Are you really in senses? If so, why don't you take my case?
>>
>> Mark/All,
>>
>> Please close this bug and don't do anything to resolve the issue, as
>> someone in this world thinks its my personal problem. Please that smartest
>> lot and close the bug.
>>
> Dhaval,
>
> As you would have got the update by now, a fix was made and bug is on its
> way to closure (with a resolution.) post deployment[1].
>
> There is no need to take offense on Arun's comment. It probably came
> because he was bothered more about the lack of choice at certain places
> than the technicalities given that lot of us value freedom and choice.
> Nonetheless, IE7 should still be supported as it still gets 4% (861 M) of
> all page requests[2] to Wikimedia. There would be hundreds of people who
> might have the choice but prefer to use IE7 as their choice for reasons up
> to them and bugs are welcome on IE7 as long as its still in use and
> supported by Microsoft.
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36275#c10
> [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mediawiki version upgrade

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hi Dhaval,

Am just curious, being from the non-technical field and all. If there is a
problem with respect to IE7, should the problem lie with Microsoft? I mean,
can the bug be fixed? I mean no offense and if the bug can be fixed, it
should be done, everyone has their browser preferences that they are
comfortable with and am sure Arun meant it as a joke. But if the bug is not
fixed and the update is applied, would it be possible for you to
temporarily shift to another browser till the bug is fixed, since it is
already filed?

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:

> Arun,
>
> Are you really in senses? If so, why don't you take my case?
>
> Mark/All,
>
> Please close this bug and don't do anything to resolve the issue, as
> someone in this world thinks its my personal problem. Please that smartest
> lot and close the bug.
>
> Regards,
> Dhaval
>
> Regards,
> Dhaval
> On 11 May 2012 09:30, "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Mark, it is the one. Will really appreciate if it is fixed ASAP!
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Mark A. Hershberger 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  On 05/10/2012 04:07 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote:

 There is already bug filed nearly a couple of weeks back, but no
 resolution till date. It might be worth considering before moving to
 upgrade if at all you think that people out there might still be using IE7
 (like me) and they may need to edit.

 I think the right thing to do is to fix the policy at your workplace to
>> use another browser. this is a human right violation :)
>>
>>
>>>
 Is this the bug?  "Edit tools and Narayam not working in gujarati
 wikis (IE7) "

 I will try and get it fixed ASAP.

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 Wikimedia foundation...@wikimedia.org


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hmmm...that maybe true but what else can we do, I mean, Inkfruit has to be
involved somewhere in this right? Think about it, if you were an ad
injecting virus, why would you randomly inject ads that too of inkfruit?
For people who face these ads, are the ads appearing only on wikipedia or
other websites also? If I am not wrong, if this is the work of a malware,
it would display the ad on each and every website you visit and not just
specifically Wikipedia. If its only Wikipedia and the ad is only Inkfruit,
I'd really say, if nothing can be done via code, legal needs to be
involved. If its a non-specific malware, just clean your systems, I guess
and inform others.

Rather, I'd say, instead of not going public with this, if it gets too
frequent, go public. Display a banner on top of Wiki stating that if you
see ads on Wikipedia that is not at all related to Wiki, rather you should
check your system for malware. The point is people should not assume, that
Wikipedia has started ads.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Anirudh Bhati  wrote:

> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
> debast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok then can we not make the default version the https one like say google
>> does.
>
>
> This will not be a permanent solution, I'm afraid.
>
> anirudh
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-I] Report on NSEC outreach

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Dear all,

I am extremely sorry that this report is long overdue but as I was busy
with my exams and other stuff, I literally did not get time to compile
this. This is related to the Wikipedia Stall I helped set up in Netaji
Subhash Engineering College, Kolkata. NSEC had their annual
techno-management fest, Avenir, 2012 from 16th - 18th March, around the
time I got back to Kolkata from Pune during my prep leave. As there was
already a WikiAcademy, in NSEC, I tried to procure a lab for an editothon,
however, Sucheta who awesomely spearheaded everything for me from her
college part informed me that labs were not available, however, a stall was.

I sent out to set up the stall for the three day fest. I contacted the
local community as well as the India Programs team as this was my first
ever Outreach that I organized. I sent a mail on both the India mailing
list as well as the West Bengal mailing list. Unfortunately, there was a
lack of volunteers as almost everyone was busy. On day 1, Sucheta
accompanied me at the stall for the whole day, however, on Day 2 even she
was busy with her own fest work.

Also Day 1 saw much better numbers that Day 2 and as I was not available on
Day 3, Day 3 was dropped completely. The pros and the cons are as follows:

The Cons:
1. There was serious lack of volunteers and hence at times I felt very
overburdened having to deal with over 10 people at one go.
2. Lack of banners/posters - Though this might not be a big issue but as
there was no large poster available. It was very difficult to inform people
about the stall. I tried my best with A4 documents I printed myself, but
the problem still remained because of the size.
3. Lack of numbers - Perhaps this might be my take, but am used to fests in
the Pune/Mumbai circuit and hence the numbers to me, seemed very less,
although I was informed this was the largest turnout, even more than last
year. Still on Day 1, about 30 people at most visited the stall. On Day 2,
the number was far less.

The Pros:
1. I was highly impressed with the amount in interest in Kolkata. The
students were not only highly interested, they had an array of curious
questions.
2. Certain students even waited for me to finish with others so that they
could get a deeper understanding of Wikipedia and even do some hands on.
3. Two students were so interested, they were coming back again and again
and I even helped them upload pics to their user profile.
4. One student, User:Sanu531 1 first
tried a live edit uploaded his own pic and updated his user page himself.

In my opinion, if there is this level of interest, I think, a student club
of types could do wonders here. I did not create any page on WMIN as this
was only a stall, however, I did upload pics
here
2. Also as there was no flier/handout available for such I tried to make a
very rookie version in both Bengali and English back to back in one page,
here 3.

Special thanks to Nitika Tandon for the Presentations which enabled me to
create the poster as well as the whole of India Teams for the support as
well as both the India and Bengali Community for the encouragement.

1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanu531
2 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSEC_Kolkata_Outreach
3 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kolkata_Outreach_Doc.pdf
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedians work for personal satisfaction, not politics or personal gain

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Seriously? I don't mean to be rude here but I'd really don't think that is
the way it was meant to be interpreted. I mean, if I say Ashwin is
kind-hearted, doesn't mean I'm calling every other community member
heartless. My two paise.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Arjun Mangol Kanoth <
arjun.man...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can't we just consider the comment as applying to every Wikipedian in
> India, after all, for outsiders who don't know our diversity, we're just
> Indians. I'm quite sure he didn't mean what was interpreted :)
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> (In response to a certain remark in ‘Malayalam Wikipedia could be
>> emulated’)
>> (url -
>> http://expressbuzz.com/topnews/%E2%80%98malayalam-wikipedia-could-be-emulated%E2%80%99/386803.html
>> )
>>
>> The Malayalam Wikimedian community definitely deserves kudos. A
>> diverse bunch of people volunteered their effort and skills gratis for
>> many years to build up what is already a major educational aid in
>> Malayalam. This will play an actual positive role in community
>> development and that is what the greatest reward to the participants.
>> We are confident that they will go on with their exemplary work and
>> prove to be sources of inspiration to us all in the years to come.
>> That kind of satisfaction, at being part of something bigger than
>> oneself and being able to make a difference in the world, motivates
>> Wikimedians all over the world, as it does in India also.
>>
>> Human nature causes wikimedians to look to the statements of WMF
>> officials for encouragement, advice and guidance (though imho they
>> should not). In this context, Newstead's comment at the
>> Wikisangamotsav  in Kollam last weekend - "they don’t focus on
>> politics or personal gains" - can be construed as mischievous in the
>> worst case and mistaken in the best.
>>
>> Though the WMF does dole out some grants to individuals and
>> communities, all Wikimedians are essentially unpaid volunteers, the
>> vast majority of which do not have access to resources provided by the
>> Foundation.
>>
>> Such a remark casts aspersions wrongly on the rest of the Indian
>> wikipedian community, giving the casual reader the idea that the
>> Malayalam Wikimedians are paragons of virtue while the remainder of
>> the Indian Wikimedian community “focus on politics and personal gain”.
>>
>> The remark indicates a deep distrust of the WMF for the general
>> community for reasons best known to them. Such a remark is hardly
>> constructive in motivating the entire bunch of Indian Wikimedians who,
>> as a collective whole, are making extremely valuable contributions to
>> society despite being unpaid volunteers and at the cost of a large
>> amount of personal time and often at their own expense.
>>
>> The question arises at what could be the reason for politics and what
>> personal gains are to be found in doing Wikipedia editing or outreach?
>>
>> Satisfaction, learning, peer approval, interaction with intelligent
>> fellow-believers, social service and fun are the personal gains for
>> editors - all legitimate rewards which one can partake off with
>> integrity and pride.
>>
>> Politics arises when scarce resources are pursued by many. It cannot
>> be money, since all funds in Wikipedia are in the hands of the
>> Foundation which directly receives donations. Nor is it power, as the
>> community insists on it being a society of equals.  The India Chapter
>> with its few executive members and completely budgetted by the WMF and
>> with its limited role & mandate cannot be considered worthy target of
>> Newstead’s remark either. So what politics are we talking about and
>> who is it that Newstead is referring to?
>>
>> Perhaps the WMF feels offended by the criticism from Wikimedians
>> worldwide at the failure of a flagship educational program in India
>> last year or perhaps at local criticism in their mode of operation in
>> India and the cost-benefit analysis of their country program where
>> hundreds of thousands of dollars have been poured in with mediocre
>> results. Newstead may feel unhappy about these issues but public
>> statements like these do not add to the confidence of the community in
>> the WMF either.
>>
>> In today's world, participants in citizen science or collaborative
>> projects such as Wikipedia expect the highest levels of transparency,
>> democracy and debate - in part, Wikipedia’s open ethos itself is
>> responsible for the extremely democratic aspirations of participants.
>> Wikipedians routinely engage in large debates on major and minute
>> issues. They absorb from their experience in the Project the idea that
>> all action is open for debate and that such criticism/dissent is not
>> only constructive but vital. It would be a strange quirk of fate,
>> should an office-bearer of WMF feel threatened by the values
>> encouraged by their own projects.
>>
>> This distrust may also be seen as a clash of cultures - on one side, a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimediaindia-I] {{WM-IN}} Invitation template

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I put it on the noticeboard also and after you told me, sent on the english
list only.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Specifically, do NOT use the mailing list, this or the English list as
> a replacement for on wiki discussions. Discuss it on noticeboards, as
> not all users subscribe to the list.
> Cheers.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimediaindia-I] {{WM-IN}} Invitation template

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey all,

I was thinking maybe we can change the current invitation template code to
this one, User:Debastein/WP:India
Invite.
Basically, this would enable any user to give a custom message and sign
easily using the *{{WM-IN|message= |sign=}}* functions.

Also this would recognize the user name in the talk page and automatically
input it.

If we use this code, then even if someone uses the normal code,
{{WM-IN}}it would
recognize the user and leave the current default message just like
the current template and you can enter your signature afterwards, like it
is now.

What say? opinions? This one seems a bit more friendly to me.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NSEB tech fest Avenir

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Reminder that there is an outreach event tomorrow. Hope few people from the
Kolkata community will show up at least. It will be nearly impossible for
me to manage the stall alone.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay  wrote:

> I have gotten in touch with the chapter. I am infact a chapter member
> myself (IN-135). I have also informed and asked the Kolkata community for
> help and support. Jayanta da has told me that he will bring the banner that
> we have in Kolkata.
>
> I am currently trying to make a basic info guide which I can xerox and
> distribute. I need help with that if anyone is interested.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Excellent! This is indeed brilliant. I suggest you get in touch with
>> the Chapter soon. The chapter is your one stop place for all Wikipedia
>> related support. If you need any help on wiki, let me know. More than
>> willing to help.
>>
>> --
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>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
>> Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NSEB tech fest Avenir

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I have gotten in touch with the chapter. I am infact a chapter member
myself (IN-135). I have also informed and asked the Kolkata community for
help and support. Jayanta da has told me that he will bring the banner that
we have in Kolkata.

I am currently trying to make a basic info guide which I can xerox and
distribute. I need help with that if anyone is interested.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Excellent! This is indeed brilliant. I suggest you get in touch with
> the Chapter soon. The chapter is your one stop place for all Wikipedia
> related support. If you need any help on wiki, let me know. More than
> willing to help.
>
> --
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> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
> Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG
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[Wikimediaindia-l] NSEB tech fest Avenir

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hello all,

I am currently in Kolkata, and upon reaching here two days ago, a fellow
community member, Sucheta, had informed me that her college, Netaji Subhash
Engineer College, Garia was organizing a tech fest, Avenir
2012from 16th of March to the 18th of March.
As such I got in touch with her
college organizers and with Sucheta's help we were able to procure a stall
for free. We might even get a hall if possible.

I really wanted the lab for an edit-o-thon but that is very hard to
procure. I also relayed the message to both Jayanta da as well as WMF
office in Delhi as they had organized an academy in the same college.

We really need volunteers for the event, so anyone who can give their
precious time please do join us. It would be awesome if all you guys came.
I'd really love to meet the Kolkata community also.

What I was planning was that, we concentrate more on uploading pics on
commons, pronunciation drive (i.e. easier ways to contribute than writing
articles) because young people in fests will hopefully respond better to
such stuff. Also wanted to spread the word about WP:India and Indic
languages. I need a lot of help so would really appreciate any volunteers.
Can reward with cupcakes (virtual of course). :)

Please guys, whoever, can, do attend, this will be Kolkata's first outreach
in a fest, if I am not wrong, if its not, then doesn't matter, it will be
an outreach in Kolkata and all of us really need to know what's the right
formula and practice makes you perfect they say. :)

Will create a page about this in en:Wiki and WM-IN soon. See you tomorrow
guys, sharp at 10 am (hopefully). :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I'm not the techie here, but I don't think its a malware on a system per
se. Reason being being, two different people have experienced it, same ad
also from different IP's, different locations though.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Definitely Adware/Malware/Spyware/etc.
> Notice in the Screenshot, it says Ads Not By This Site.
> It should've been a clue.
> Do scan your system with a good antivirus [Free or paid doesn't matter].
> If your system is infected by anything, your data might be at risk.
> --Cheers,
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
> debast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by
>> the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue??
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
>> debast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that
>>> Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made
>>> a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular
>>> even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people
>>> have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone.
>>>
>>> I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to
>>> you guys on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese
>>>>> wikipedia is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29&ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CE4Q7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing
>>>>>> advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). 
>>>>>> Here
>>>>>> is a link to a screenshot:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to
>>>>>> check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not
>>>>>> visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is some text that says, "ads not by this site". I've taken a quick look
>>>>>> through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His
>>>>>> right-click menu does not appear when he right-clicks on the ad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is "Tata Teleservices Maharashtra
>>>>>> Ltd". His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this
>>>>>> page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this 
>>>>>> one).
>>>>>> I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address
>>>>>> shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is
>>>>>> fairly common).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this:
>>>>>> http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Combo&utm_medium=CPM&utm_content=combobanner&utm_campaign=Combo.
>>>>>> I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the 
>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>> data in the URL parameters may help identify the problem (also, I'm not
>>>>>> sure if Inkfruit is aware of this campaign).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've copied my friend here in case there are further questions he
>>>>>> could help answer.
>>>>>>
>>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by
the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue??

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay  wrote:

> No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that
> Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made
> a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular
> even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people
> have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone.
>
> I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you
> guys on this.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta wrote:
>
>> Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:
>>
>>> mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese
>>> wikipedia is here:
>>>
>>> http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29&ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CE4Q7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing
>>>> advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here
>>>> is a link to a screenshot:
>>>>
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg
>>>>
>>>> These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check
>>>> through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to
>>>> him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some
>>>> text that says, "ads not by this site". I've taken a quick look through the
>>>> page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does
>>>> not appear when he right-clicks on the ad.
>>>>
>>>> He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is "Tata Teleservices Maharashtra
>>>> Ltd". His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this
>>>> page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one).
>>>> I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address
>>>> shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is
>>>> fairly common).
>>>>
>>>> The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this:
>>>> http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Combo&utm_medium=CPM&utm_content=combobanner&utm_campaign=Combo.
>>>> I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the campaign
>>>> data in the URL parameters may help identify the problem (also, I'm not
>>>> sure if Inkfruit is aware of this campaign).
>>>>
>>>> I've copied my friend here in case there are further questions he could
>>>> help answer.
>>>>
>>>> Could this be a case of DPI by his ISP, or simply malware on his
>>>> machine? If it were the former, what would be the legal status of the
>>>> issue?
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that
Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made
a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular
even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people
have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone.

I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you
guys on this.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta wrote:

> Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM.
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman wrote:
>
>> mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese
>> wikipedia is here:
>>
>> http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29&ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CE4Q7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta wrote:
>>
>>> A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing
>>> advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here
>>> is a link to a screenshot:
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg
>>>
>>> These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check
>>> through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to
>>> him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some
>>> text that says, "ads not by this site". I've taken a quick look through the
>>> page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does
>>> not appear when he right-clicks on the ad.
>>>
>>> He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is "Tata Teleservices Maharashtra
>>> Ltd". His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this
>>> page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one).
>>> I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address
>>> shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is
>>> fairly common).
>>>
>>> The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this:
>>> http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Combo&utm_medium=CPM&utm_content=combobanner&utm_campaign=Combo.
>>> I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the campaign
>>> data in the URL parameters may help identify the problem (also, I'm not
>>> sure if Inkfruit is aware of this campaign).
>>>
>>> I've copied my friend here in case there are further questions he could
>>> help answer.
>>>
>>> Could this be a case of DPI by his ISP, or simply malware on his
>>> machine? If it were the former, what would be the legal status of the
>>> issue?
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[Wikimediaindia-l] An Innovative Outreach effort

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hello all,

I am sending this mail, as I am soon going to be leaving for Kolkata and as
such a particular incident reminded me how we can do a free of cost basic
outreach, to spread the word about Wikipedia. The incident occurred when I
was traveling from Mumbai to Kolkata, just after the conference, and not
having time to change, I boarded the Duronto with my conference t-shirt on.

The passengers in the compartment I was in, though initially kept to
themselves, started speaking to each other as often happens on long (28hr)
train journeys. Very soon the focus shifted to my t-shirt and the resultant
was that I ended up explaining the world of Wikipedia to them for hours.

I should mention, it was a very varied crowd and maybe that is why it
happened. There was a lawyer, a psychiatrist, a scientist, an engineer, and
a couple others whose occupations were unknown to me.

I won't say it was very fruitful, or that I showed them any live demo or
ppt. Rather I focused on a few crucial question which were on their minds:

   - What is Wikipedia?
   - Who runs Wikipedia?
   - Is Wikimedia a sub-project of Wikipedia?
   - Who edits Wikipedia?
   - How many employees are there and how many volunteers?
   - Is it really free? If so, how does it earn money?
   - Reliability of Wikipedia - If anyone can edit, is it reliable?
   - Who monitors info?
   - Copyvio and reliable sources
   - What do I get out of it, if not money?
   - Role of a Campus Ambassador
   - How to edit?
   - Why edit?
   - Edit what?
   - Presence of Indic language wikis
   - How to edit Indic language wikis
   - Sister projects like Commons, Wikibooks
   - Entry of Foundation in India and creation of India Chapter

However, as it was my first journey, I did not note down their emails to
follow them up. The number was also limited, only 6. But hey, it was free
and killed a lot of time, while at least telling people that Wikipedia can
be edited and it has indic languages as well as sister projects. Hence, a
sincere request to all Wikimedians. If you are traveling in a long distance
train journey, try wearing a Wiki t-shirt if you have one. If you don't but
the audience seems interested go over, say hello and ask where they work.
When they ask you back, say, "WIKIPEDIA" and see the reaction. That should
get you started.

You can always try it. If it fails, then the only thing is you have to wash
your Wiki tee at most. But at least you spread the awareness. I am not
saying that this will retain people and inspire them to start editing, but
at least they might go back and try and look at Wikipedia in a different
way, or seek out new info.

Am again going to wear a Wiki tee on my journey, will tell you if i have a
similar experience.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Monthly meetup of Pune Wikipedians - 10 March 2012

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

That will surely help. Thanks Ashwin, I will come then. Your a real life
saver. :)

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Will drop you to a proper bus-stand at highway in Dapodi.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
> debast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can we not have this meetup say from 1600 to 1700. I really want to
>> attend it but I have to go to my brother's place in Pimpri and its very
>> difficult to get buses after 1800?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Mandar Kulkarni > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>> The next monthly meetup of Pune wikipedians, WikiPuneri, is planned for
>>> Saturday 10 Mar 2010, from 1800 to 1900 hrs at Ranade Institute, Ferguson
>>> Road, Near Rupali, Pune
>>>
>>> The intended purpose of the meetup is:
>>>
>>> *Set up a long-term plan for a year's worth of Wikipuneri activities,
>>> with detailed planning for Wikipedia activities* .
>>>
>>> The agenda is as follows:
>>> 1. Discuss and plan for outreach activities in Pune
>>> 2. Communication and reporting of various activities of events
>>> 3. Reporting of past events like Marathi Wikisrot launch, Wiki academies
>>> 4. Discuss on increase member strength in Pune
>>> 5. Discuss immd. project in Pune and the support required
>>>
>>> Please sign up here :
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune/Pune19
>>>
>>> This is a very interesting and important meet so be sure to be present
>>> to push your ideas about what you would like to do!
>>>
>>> With Regards,
>>>
>>> Mandar V. Kulkarni
>>> http://mr.wikipedia.org
>>>  http://mr.wikisource.org
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Monthly meetup of Pune Wikipedians - 10 March 2012

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Can we not have this meetup say from 1600 to 1700. I really want to attend
it but I have to go to my brother's place in Pimpri and its very difficult
to get buses after 1800?


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Mandar Kulkarni wrote:

>
>   Dear All,
>
>
> The next monthly meetup of Pune wikipedians, WikiPuneri, is planned for
> Saturday 10 Mar 2010, from 1800 to 1900 hrs at Ranade Institute, Ferguson
> Road, Near Rupali, Pune
>
> The intended purpose of the meetup is:
>
> *Set up a long-term plan for a year's worth of Wikipuneri activities,
> with detailed planning for Wikipedia activities* .
>
> The agenda is as follows:
> 1. Discuss and plan for outreach activities in Pune
> 2. Communication and reporting of various activities of events
> 3. Reporting of past events like Marathi Wikisrot launch, Wiki academies
> 4. Discuss on increase member strength in Pune
> 5. Discuss immd. project in Pune and the support required
>
> Please sign up here :
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune/Pune19
>
> This is a very interesting and important meet so be sure to be present to
> push your ideas about what you would like to do!
>
> With Regards,
>
> Mandar V. Kulkarni
> http://mr.wikipedia.org
>  http://mr.wikisource.org
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing Noopur Raval as Consultant, Wikimedia Foundation (India Program, Communications)

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Congratulations Noopur, now you shall get paid for doing what you
love...How awesome is that??

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:

> Congratulations! Noopur.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> On 05/03/2012, Sohan Maheshwar  wrote:
> > Hey Noopur
> >
> > Congratulations!
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
> ramshankarya...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Congrats Noopur :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Pratik Lahoti
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Welcome and congratulations Noopur! You are indeed very inspiring! :)
> >>>
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> Pratik Lahoti
> >>> User:BPositive
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Hisham  wrote:
> >>>
>  Dear All,
> 
>  I am pleased to announce that Noopur Raval
>  ([User:Noopur28]
>  has been selected as Consultant to the Wikimedia
>  Foundation,
>  and will support Communications for India
>  Program.
> 
> 
>  This position will perform 4 key functions.  Firstly, it will support
>  communications with our community.  This involves a regular set of
>  updates
>  (such as newsletters) as well as specific communication projects such
> as
>  story-telling of local community initiatives (to document experiences,
>  celebrate successes and cross-pollinate ideas.)  This is *not* for
>  day-to-day program communications - which is a core part of each of
> our
>  responsibilities in the India Program team.  Second will be to support
>  media & PR for local community initiatives.  The single biggest
>  challenge
>  here will to be get more Indic language media coverage to support
>  community
>  building efforts. This will be done directly with community members
> and
>  also in co-ordination with the India Chapter 's
>  Communications
>  Media & PR team .  The
>  third aspect is to build and expand existing community social networks
>  (such as WikimediaIndia  on
>  facebook) and to help with the use of social networks to support
>  community
>  building.  Lastly, there is untapped potential of using digital
> outreach
>  -
>  to augment existing physical outreach efforts.  We need to (very, very
>  carefully) explore if we can reach out to our large and growing reader
>  base
>  and inform, encourage and enable them to become editors using online
>  channels and resources.
> 
>  Noopur is a community member and has supported outreach activities (in
>  Ahmedabad<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Ahmedabad>
>   & Delhi  >),
>  is a member of Delhi
>  SIG<
> http://members.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_Special_Interest_Groups>
>  of
>  the Chapter, has participated in community collaborations like
>  Collaboration
>  of the Month  and has
>  been actively trying to start
>  GLAM in
>  India.
> 
>  Noopur is from Gandhinagar 
>  and
>  is graduating from
>  JNU with
>  a Master's in Arts & Aesthetics.  She has a triple honors Bachelor's
>  in Media Studies, Literature and Psychology from Christ College,
>  Bangalore .
>   She has interned with Radio Mirchi, Times of India and the Centre for
>  Internet & Society (amongst others) - as well as done some teaching
>  assignments.  She is an active blogger (including for the India Art
>  Summit,
>  2011.) She has published a novella and co-authored an anthology of
>  poems,
>  plays & short stories and has co-presented a paper on "Wikiwars" with
>  [User:Srikeit.]  She is also an amateur photographer and has
> contributed
>  to
>  Commons<
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Noopur28>
>  as
>  well as other platforms.
> 
>  The Communications position has taken a long time to fill.  The
> initial
>  call for selection was in
>  September<
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004252.html
> >.
>   I reported back to the community in
>  December<
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-December/006055.html
> >
>  that
>  I had failed to find the right candidate and hence the delay.  There
>  were a
>  number of deserving candidates and this selection has taken time
> because
>  of
>  the need to find the most sui

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urgent help required! Wikipedia Academy at GNUNIFY techfest, SICSR, Model Colony, Pune on 11th Feb 2012 from 10AM to 1 PM

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I'll try my best. :)

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Pratik Lahoti wrote:

> I'm in as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Pratik Lahoti
> User:BPositive
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
>
>> Count me in.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> GNUNIFY techfest is being held at SICSR, Model Colony, Pune from 10 to
>>> 12th Feb 2011.
>>> There is a Wikimedia hackathon also associated with it.
>>>
>>> On 11th February from 10AM to 1 PM there is a Wikipedia Academy which
>>> is to be done by self & Sudhanwa followed by a Marathi Wikipedia
>>> Academy in the afternoon.
>>>
>>> Sudhanwa has suddenly got serious family business and not able to
>>> attend. The number of people signing up for English Wikipedia Academy
>>> has increased to from 30 to over 70.
>>>
>>> I request for help from all Wikipedians who are free for the Academy.
>>> They may please make it to
>>> SICSR even if they can only be there part of the time.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outreach opportunities: Wikipedia workshops at tech fests

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

I think in my rather long email, you mistook my main point. My main point
was, lets not just restrict ourselves to tech fests. A re-read perhaps if
your wagering a 100 bucks against my 2 paise?? :)

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Noopur  wrote:

> My 100 bucks on this :
>
> Let's not make assumptions before we try it out. In the past we've done
> editing sessions, outreach and everything else in colleges. The success
> *drastically* depends on *who* is doing it. Don't get me wrong but, whether
> people agree or not, whether it is successful; ALL depends on how
> interesting you make it to be.
>
> Also, a NO is not the final word, I keep trying and convincing. People
> give in at some point. So, be bold and keep trying :)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <
> debast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My two paise:
>>
>> Point 1: I myself am a student, and I kind of agree with Srikanth on this
>> one. Students aren't really interested in learning to edit Wikipedia at a
>> fest. If I was a newbie, I wouldn't even look at the stall for more than
>> say once or twice.
>>
>> A better idea is to have a photo scavenger hunt to upload to commons and
>> use that somehow in an article in one of these fest. Anyone who can do it
>> successfully after a brief tutorial, say gets rewarded with a tshirt.
>>
>> The t-shirt isn't that symbolic. It is necessary to attract a person to
>> the stall, but what will drive them is the competitive spirit.
>>
>> Point 2: I do believe that Wikipedia has a lot of techies (my opinion,
>> may be wrong). When you target techies, they are the easiest as they will
>> like the concept of open source, coding, etc etc. But I doubt how many
>> non-technical articles they chose to even touch in a short span.
>>
>> What we do not touch upon are non-tech fests, esp sciences and arts.
>> Because, students of sciences generally have to do a lot of research but
>> all this research just goes to their professors and rots. While literature
>> students are always looking for avenues of self expression. Maybe Wikipedia
>> is not the best place for that, but it will attract them more because of
>> the audience. So why not give non-tech fests a try also?
>>
>> The most recent I can think of is Sympulse, which is in 9days. But Nitika
>> or Hisham, maybe you can talk to them and if they agree, we can also help
>> out?
>>
>> Contact info:
>>
>> Aditya Krishnamurthy : +91 9867559891
>>
>> Aparna Prasad : +91 9673399903
>> http://www.sympulsefest.com/
>>
>> Otherwise, I don't think you will get students to edit Wikipedia
>> seriously other than the IEP model.
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Gunit Kalada wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pratik,
>>>
>>> It is nice to get that kind of response from people. Maybe the scenario
>>> in my college is exceptionally different. But if some colleges feel
>>> differently, then I guess we can really go ahead and do this.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gunit.
>>>
>>> On 20 January 2012 19:04, Aditya Sengupta  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bishakha and I did a short session at VJTI during the previous edition
>>>> of the technical festival. Money never came up.
>>>>
>>>> The kinds of places that are going to ask for money for these specific
>>>> activities are the kinds of places you do not want to do these
>>>> workshops/sessions at in the first place- a very clear and simple filter.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:57, Pratik Lahoti wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Gunit,
>>>>>
>>>>> Its not all about sponsorship. We got a stall for free at the CMDA IT
>>>>> Expo as well.
>>>>> Infact, I just had a chat yesterday with one of my friends from
>>>>> Cummins College of Engineering for Women regarding the outreach activities
>>>>> and she was asking me how much do they have to pay to us for the workshop
>>>>> if it was organized in their college during the fest. Clearly, people 
>>>>> don't
>>>>> expect any money from us. Infact, they are ready to pay us :P
>>>>>
>>>>> We can conduct workshops, if a stall is not possible. And the ultimate
>>>>> aim is to spread the word about Wikipedia.
>>>>>

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outreach opportunities: Wikipedia workshops at tech fests

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

My two paise:

Point 1: I myself am a student, and I kind of agree with Srikanth on this
one. Students aren't really interested in learning to edit Wikipedia at a
fest. If I was a newbie, I wouldn't even look at the stall for more than
say once or twice.

A better idea is to have a photo scavenger hunt to upload to commons and
use that somehow in an article in one of these fest. Anyone who can do it
successfully after a brief tutorial, say gets rewarded with a tshirt.

The t-shirt isn't that symbolic. It is necessary to attract a person to the
stall, but what will drive them is the competitive spirit.

Point 2: I do believe that Wikipedia has a lot of techies (my opinion, may
be wrong). When you target techies, they are the easiest as they will like
the concept of open source, coding, etc etc. But I doubt how many
non-technical articles they chose to even touch in a short span.

What we do not touch upon are non-tech fests, esp sciences and arts.
Because, students of sciences generally have to do a lot of research but
all this research just goes to their professors and rots. While literature
students are always looking for avenues of self expression. Maybe Wikipedia
is not the best place for that, but it will attract them more because of
the audience. So why not give non-tech fests a try also?

The most recent I can think of is Sympulse, which is in 9days. But Nitika
or Hisham, maybe you can talk to them and if they agree, we can also help
out?

Contact info:

Aditya Krishnamurthy : +91 9867559891

Aparna Prasad : +91 9673399903
http://www.sympulsefest.com/

Otherwise, I don't think you will get students to edit Wikipedia seriously
other than the IEP model.


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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Gunit Kalada  wrote:

> Hi Pratik,
>
> It is nice to get that kind of response from people. Maybe the scenario in
> my college is exceptionally different. But if some colleges feel
> differently, then I guess we can really go ahead and do this.
>
> Regards,
> Gunit.
>
> On 20 January 2012 19:04, Aditya Sengupta  wrote:
>
>> Bishakha and I did a short session at VJTI during the previous edition of
>> the technical festival. Money never came up.
>>
>> The kinds of places that are going to ask for money for these specific
>> activities are the kinds of places you do not want to do these
>> workshops/sessions at in the first place- a very clear and simple filter.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:57, Pratik Lahoti wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Gunit,
>>>
>>> Its not all about sponsorship. We got a stall for free at the CMDA IT
>>> Expo as well.
>>> Infact, I just had a chat yesterday with one of my friends from Cummins
>>> College of Engineering for Women regarding the outreach activities and she
>>> was asking me how much do they have to pay to us for the workshop if it was
>>> organized in their college during the fest. Clearly, people don't expect
>>> any money from us. Infact, they are ready to pay us :P
>>>
>>> We can conduct workshops, if a stall is not possible. And the ultimate
>>> aim is to spread the word about Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> --Pratik Lahoti.
>>> User:BPositive
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki 11 Pune report

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

+100

It was a lot of fun along with serious business. The club started on the
14th with over 40+ attendees. The greatest success was that almost 100% of
all students returned the next day. Hence, we hope to have generated a lot
of interest as well as made it clear to them, that editing an encyclopedia
is serious business.

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Srikeit  wrote:

> Hello All
>
> This is a slightly belated report of the Wiki 11 celebrations in Pune on
> January 15, 2012.
>
> The celebrations were coincided with the first gathering of Wikipedia
> Club Pune .
> The Club had met on the 14th where participants were instructed on the
> model, nature and basics of Wikipedia.
>
> The 15th saw 40+ participants gather in the computer lab at SICSR, Pune
> for hands-on Wikipedia editing as well as the 11th anniversary
> celebrations. The numbers therefore made this the *largest Wiki 11
> celebration in India*. The participants were largely high school and
> college students. The morning session involved a detailed explanation of
> the five pillars of 
> Wikipedia stressing
> the importance of contributing neutral and free content. Feedback for each
> sessions was immediately gathered on the Wikipedia Club Pune Facebook 
> Page
> .
>
> The second session involved hands-on editing beginning with talk page
> posting, signing of posts, sandbox editing, wiki-linking etc. Then
> following a detailed explanation of referencing, the participants were
> encouraged (under supervision) to reference articles related to Pune.
>
> The final session involved the business end of the Wiki-11 celebration
> with a huge Wiki-globe 
> cake.
> We were further buoyed by the presence of the WP English SIG chair Ashwin
> who encouraged and helped the participants in editing and did the honours
> cutting the cake. The participants and the organizers participated in a
> Google+ Hangout with Hisham and the rest of the WMF office in Delhi and
> Nitika and the WP 11 party in Kolkata. The participants were quite excited
> with both Wikipedia and its community. Their enthusiasm was reflected in
> both their editing as well as willingness to return for the next meeting of
> the club.
>
> The pictures of the event have been uploaded to commons and can be found
> here .
> The next meeting of the Wikipedia Club Pune will be on Saturday, 21st Jan.
>
> The Wikipedia Club and celebrations were quite excellently organized by
> Abhishek Suryavanshi and several other Campus Ambassadors in Pune.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Help needed for Wiki Academy in Kolkata

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If it relates to editing English Wikipedia, I can help monitor the
activities of the students online and provide help and support when they
need it. So that they don't end up with copyvios or vandalism.

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jayanta Nath  wrote:

> Thank you Sumana, Actually we are planning for Kolkata Wikimedia
> Hackathon. We are staring this wiki academy[1], After that we can organised
>  for Hackathon.
>
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Netaji_Subhash_Engineering_College
>
> With Warm Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

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Excuse me for commenting here, I am not a techie, hence I assume, it might
not be the best place for me to comment, but after so many discussion over
FOSS or not, (yes, I googled what is FOSS) and I just want to know, is this
discussion really necessary?

Is it really necessary to get into long drawn discussions as to whether it
is FOSS or not? I may be out of place, hence, please Assume Good Faith. I
just wanted to know the relevance.

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> Praveen,
>
> I'm assuming good faith in thinking that you do not mean to accuse FOSS
> advocates of imposing their POV on Wikimedians in general.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
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>
>> Well elucidated, Praveen.
>>
>> warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>> Handheld
>>
>> On 05/01/2012, Gautam John  wrote:
>> > On 5 January 2012 19:02, Praveen Prakash  wrote:
>> >
>> >> softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free
>> >> softwares).
>> >
>> > Agreed. Extremism, FOSS, Wikipedian or otherwise, isn't a good thing.
>> > Choice, on the other hand, is.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Gautam
>> > 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

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A very big and hearty congratulations to you. I believe a celebration is in
order, do drop by Pune, the whole CA team will be be very happy to meet
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi  wrote:

> Thanks a lot Anivar!
>
> I am so excited to work with many communities across the nation,
> connecting to all of you to reach to people will be my prime focus.
>
> Best
> Subha
>
>
> On 23 December 2011 19:08, Anivar Aravind wrote:
>
>> Congrats Subha !!
>>
>> Happy to see average age of WMF India programme got reduced with your
>> entry !!!
>> Also thanks to  Hisham for renaming the post to suit the skillset of Subha
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hello all,

I'm really eagerly waiting news from the Kolkata Book fair. Excuse me for
my impatience, but the concept of such a large outreach in my home city is
just too enthralling for me to keep quiet.

What is the current situation? Are there any updates? Any news on the
contract with the Book Fair people? What's the word on WMF regarding
funding? How many volunteers are required? Does the Kolkata community have
adequate man-power? What about posters and freebies? Can any of the Campus
Ambassadors, including myself from the India Education Program provide any
assistance?

Sorry if there are too many questions, I'm just too excited. :)

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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay  wrote:

> Go Jayanta da +1000
>
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> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha wrote:
>
>> Will be there...:)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great efforts Jayanta.
>>>
>>> All the very best for your efforts. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> *$U®¥∩*
>>> http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com <http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com>
>>> http://about.me/suryaceg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the
>>>> receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The
>>>> application contained;
>>>>
>>>> 1. The cover letter.
>>>> 2. Print out registration certificate.
>>>> 3. en copy of the certificate.
>>>> 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site.
>>>> 4. Main page of en. wikipedia
>>>> 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia.
>>>> 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia
>>>> 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter.
>>>>
>>>> It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at
>>>> late December, 2011.
>>>>
>>>> With regards.
>>>>
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>>>> *Jayanta Nath*
>>>> Calcutta,West Bengal
>>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup

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Sorry, could not join. May someone please share the link to the summary??

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On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
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> A gentle reminder !
> Starting now.
>
> -Tinu Cherian
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Naveen Francis wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> We will have our IRC meetup on Dec 17, 2011, from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm
>>
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Dec_17,2011
>>
>> We from Wikimedia India Chapter invites you all to take part in the IRC
>> meetup.
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey,

I'll try but wish it was after 10:30.

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't think I will be able to attend any meeting this week. We will
> be busy in the event.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Naveen Francis 
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> >
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> >
> > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Dec_17,2011
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted

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Go Jayanta da +1000

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha  wrote:

> Will be there...:)
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash wrote:
>
>> Great efforts Jayanta.
>>
>> All the very best for your efforts. :)
>>
>>
>> *$U®¥∩*
>> http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com 
>> http://about.me/suryaceg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the
>>> receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The
>>> application contained;
>>>
>>> 1. The cover letter.
>>> 2. Print out registration certificate.
>>> 3. en copy of the certificate.
>>> 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site.
>>> 4. Main page of en. wikipedia
>>> 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia.
>>> 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia
>>> 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter.
>>>
>>> It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at
>>> late December, 2011.
>>>
>>> With regards.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> *Jayanta Nath*
>>> Calcutta,West Bengal
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-BD] Geographical distribution of Indian Wikipedians

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Jayanta,

Currently, I am studying in Pune but keep coming back to Kolkata during the
holidays. I had a chat with you in the conference, so where exactly do I
add my name here?? Currently, I've added it in Maharashtra, but should I
also add it in West Bengal, as I want to help conduct Academies in Kolkata
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Béria Lima  wrote:

> Why not use a map like the ones in
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:CW ,
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Brasiland
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Portugal?
>
> There are a similar map to India here:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India_78.40398E_20.74980N.jpg (if
> you don't want to use a satelite image there is a locator map:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-locator-map-blank.svg and a
> map with the states of India here:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.svg /
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.png )
> _
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> On 22 November 2011 12:20, Jayanta Nath  wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please add your name in the below link
>>
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Geographical_distribution_of_Indian_Wikipedians
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
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>>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Media Issue

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey all,

Check out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qquzVg4iido. Wait towards the end
and you'll have some news about how a call center employee in Scotland and
how he claimed to be a War hero. They mentioned nothing of
WP:NOTEor of our
stringent standards.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

+1 Abhilash

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Abhilash  wrote:

>  Srikanth
>
> With all respect, let me ask, what are we trying to do here. To change the
> so called "Indian Students mentality" or trying to spur the growth of
> Wikipedia in India?
>
> This is getting too personal and creating a wedge between one of the most
> well known knowledge communities in the world. Please please please, let us
> put a stop to this.
>
> This conversation/thread has to STOP at any cost. This is not doing any
> good than getting things personal. I hope better sense prevail.
>
> Abhi
>
>
> On 16-Nov-2011 12:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 23:11, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay  > wrote:
>
>> The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to
>> them for help and they shall help.
>
>
> I never got an answer for the question "Does your college profs come to
> your home and help you in doing the assignments?". I wont blame any single
> person, to stereotype this is exactly "Indian students' mentality" and this
> is a very big problem. It is very difficult to do anything at all even if
> we have 1000 global admins willing to sign up as ambassadors.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey Srikanth,

This is exactly what I meant about constructive approach. No my profs don't
come to me house. They fail me. I understand that this is a problem in the
mentality of Indian students. But you either have two options, decide to
help anyway or crib about how the mentality of students need to change.

Now let me ask you a question. When someone falls in a river, do you wait
for that person to ask you for your help or do you try to save him anyway.
I might be immature in my views, but when you have a whole bunch of new
Wikipedian's who would prefer to contact their CA's on facebook and not on
Wikipedia talk page, do you refuse to give them help or go to their talk
pages and help them out.

I say, everyone has their choices, I'd jump in the river to save the
person, you may want to sit and wait till he calls for your help. There are
no good or bad choices, its just a choice and its up to you as to what you
believe in.

May I also point the rhetoric of your statement, my prof doesn't come to my
house, I go to him, because I am afraid of him failing me? So do you want
the students to reach the OA's out of fear? In my experience, when I went
and helped out a person, even when they didn't want my help, it turned out
that I became more easily approachable and they came to me later with more
issues.

I'd say, this is India, our problems are unique and hence so should be our
solutions. Cribbing will get us nowhere. I can say for sure, if you go to
100 students and check out their contribs, at least 20 will reply back and
thank you and ask for your help the next time. But if you sit and wait for
them to come to you, I don't imagine even 5 will come to you.

My views, not necessary that you may agree. Do assume good faith while
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 23:11, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay  > wrote:
>
>> The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to
>> them for help and they shall help.
>
>
> I never got an answer for the question "Does your college profs come to
> your home and help you in doing the assignments?". I wont blame any single
> person, to stereotype this is exactly "Indian students' mentality" and this
> is a very big problem. It is very difficult to do anything at all even if
> we have 1000 global admins willing to sign up as ambassadors.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey all,

Let me introduce myself first. I too am a CA in fact a second gen one. I
initially decided not to reply to this mail stream at all as there is
nothing but a blame game going on.

But after all the personal attacks, I've decided to be on the front-line
along with my CA family. Ok, firstly, I don't really get this issue of the
Indian Community not being aware. I mean, yes, you can blame Hisham for not
enrolling the community but as the copyvios started flooding and the
students started editing, we hardly saw anyone from the Indian Community.
Even the Global community was unaware, but they sought out the information
and made their presence felt such that they demanded information.

The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to them
for help and they shall help. I remember attending the meeting last month.
I was very excited as I was new to Wikipedia India community, Pune chapter.
But am sorry to say, saying that the meeting was fruitful would be nothing
but a vast exaggeration. I mean, we explained to the community as to how we
and our Indian culture and education system were suffering personal attacks
and we really needed assistance in replying back to them, but all the
community was interested in was going to the students why they should not
do copyvio which, we had already given tons of sessions for.

In fact, the mere suggestion of Ram to create custom welcome templates for
the students was only agreed upon in theory and never came to life.
Unfortunately, attacking the CA's on their edit count is a way, in which
you can belittle their efforts, blame it on everyone else and just show how
right you are.

The very aspect as to how this whole discussion is turning into only a
blame game shows the fragmentation of the Indian community to which I feel
to be a part of also.

As for OA's, I'm sorry but I can speak for myself to state I received zero
help from my assigned OA's. I tried a lot on my part to reach out and get
help but I had to man 100+ students * 2 subjects all on my own as my fellow
CA also left my side. The active CA's were a big support, like Ram and a
few others.

What is not visible in Wikipedia is the amount of hard work we CA's put in
physically. I spent time every day teaching 100 students individually how
to create a sandbox, my edit count does not show that contribution, I am
sorry to say. I spent day and night searching for copyvios. Its only
because of us CA's that the extent of copyvios was scaled to a lesser
extent before the emergency OA's came in.

As for that Brazilian CA, he has been there since 2007, so I don't really
get how you can compare him to Ram. The funniest thing however that I find
is the name of the email chain, death and post mortem?? I mean, firstly,
the IEP is not dead. Being the CA of SSE, I can say for certain, it was
successfully implemented in SSE. I'd say at least 20 students are now
permanent Wikipedians who might have done copyvio, but rectified and came
back strong.

I hate this blame game of Nitika and Hisham as well as the other CA's. I am
sorry to say, I had no help from the Indian community. All that I know
about detecting copyvio was taught to me by Kudpung and Moonriddengirl, the
rest I learnt along the way. Kudpung too was not expected to teach me, but
he still did, and that is what I call as the true spirit of a Wikipedian,
imparting knowledge.

Having a huge number of edits may make you well known to the community at
large but for a bunch of students who have just started and don't even know
how to check an edit count, its useless knowledge to them. They will hardly
reach out to OA's. Most of the queries I got were not on my talk page but
via phone calls and in person chat. I carried my laptop around showing
anyone and everyone who wanted to know what to do.

We accept the mistakes we made but this blame game has to stop. What is the
point of it all?? Form a constructive platform in moving forward not step
back and say, "I told you so". That's just childish and immature.

As for the rampant voices who judge our experience, I welcome you to come
to the colleges, deal with over 1000+ students and see how your words can
totally inspire them to create non-copyright articles. Please, it will be a
learning experience for me. Ask Srikeit, I invited him once, only about 16
people attended. The rest 80+ in SSE, asked me face to face at a later
time. Would any of you be willing to spend so much time answering their
queries from 9am to 2am?? I'd love to get that kind of support and give the
students a few of your numbers.

Calculate that into my edit count please and am sure, I won't fair that
badly.

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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 13:08, Ram Shankar Yadav <
> ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *This is exactly the kind 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Academies in Indic Languages.

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Naveen,

Send me, I'll try to translate into Shudh Bengali. Need some time due to
exams which will get over tomorrow. But will be travelling from Monday to
Tuesday. So can't help before Wednesday.

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On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Can anyone help me to translate the Wiki Academy Brochure to Indic
> languages ?
>
> Thanks,
> Naveen Francis
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Heartiest Congratulations Naveen. May you do inspirational work that is
talked about for ages to come.


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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Thank you Vickram n all .. Happy to volunteer as Secretary of the Wikimedia
> India Chapter
>
>
>
>
> On 18 October 2011 02:40, Vickram Crishna wrote:
>
>> Wonderful. Nice to have the community reaching out to you when you're far
>> from home :-), more incentive to come back asap.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <
>> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hearty Congratulations and Best wishes, Naveen.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tinu Cherian
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Arjuna Rao Chavala 
>>> Date: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM
>>> Subject: [Wikimedia-IN-Exec] Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary
>>> To: wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: Wikimedia India EC 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am glad to announce that Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary of the
>>> Wikimedia Chapter. Please join me in congratulating Naveen.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Arjuna Rao Chavala
>>> President, Wikmedia Chapter.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Naveen Francis is elected as the Secretary

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Heartiest Congratulations Naveen. May you do inspirational work that is
talked about for ages to come.

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 18 October 2011 14:35, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:
>
> > I am glad to announce that Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary of the
> > Wikimedia Chapter. Please join me in congratulating Naveen.
>
> Congratulations and good luck, Naveen!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Bangladesh

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Warmest welcome to my cousins across the border who speak the same lingua
franca as I.

Regards,
Debanjan

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Bishakha Datta wrote:

> Cross-posting since it may be of interest to this list.
>
> Cheers
> Bishakha
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: phoebe ayers 
> Date: Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM
> Subject: [Internal-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Bangladesh
> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)"
> 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Congratulations to Wikimedia Bangladesh, our newest chapter!
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Bangladesh
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> -- Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IRC Office Hours -- India Education Program

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Also this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvHvGEZx7Jk&feature=related

Regards,
Debanjan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Ram Shankar Yadav <
ramshankarya...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Srikanth,
> Please go thru following links :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INDIAEDU
>
>
> http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-07/pune/29629403_1_online-encyclopedia-wikipedia-articles-pilot-project
>
>
> http://www.thepunekar.com/2011/06/06/wikipedia-chooses-pune-for-india-pilot-programme/
>
> and a video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf-yGubgJE
>
> Let me know if you still have any doubts.
>
> Cheers,
> Ram
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
>
>> What is India education program?
>>  On 11 Oct 2011 12:22, "Srikanth Lakshmanan"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There is an IRC office hour scheduled at #wikimedia-office on Wed, Oct 12
>>> 8:30 PM IST about issues in India Education program. Please join if you are
>>> interested in the program.
>>>
>>>  http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikimedia-office
>>>
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