Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-06 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, 'Yogesh Khandke' via wmin-members 
wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 As regards to Same with Elecom.
 We are volunteers for conducting election process,
 We depends on legal advice from WMIN . So get in touch with WMIN office
 for any more clarification  

 You said there is a rule that debars participation of the community, I
 request you to provide evidence, I don't understand why that is so
 difficult.


I pointed chapter MoA and asked you to read that .
All needed documents are public and  linked at
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014
Read that and if you think it is not correct,  point the the provision to
open election process to non members of a society . As a volunteer body for
conducting elections, we depends upon legal opinion from WMIN in this
regard as official . You can check the same with WMIN if needed .
If you have any more questions ask it in
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014 page.
This is my last response here .

Anivar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-05 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
This is little strange, I can understand that voting and nominations are
members only regime but why the community is not allowed to participate
even in QA is not clear to me.

If it is so, there should be no wiki page or onwiki discussion, or login
process on wikimedia.in should be membership number based.
On 5 Nov 2014 18:16, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Srikanth,

 This is just trash . Ignore it .
 Engagement with WMIN Election process is limited to Chapter members  and
 mentioning membership No is mandatory for QA page . As per Elecom informed
 , non members cannot be allowed to engage with Election process. It is
 mentioned clearly in the page.
 Any questions without membership no will be reverted .

 ~ regards
 Anivar


 On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got this mail six times in bcc.
 Please look into it.
 Any more mails of this nature will go into my trash bin.
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: IAC techs iac.te...@gmail.com
 Date: 05-Nov-2014 10:50 pm
 Subject: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN
 To: yogesh_khan...@yahoo.com, nethahuss...@gmail.com
 Cc:

 REBLOGGED BY iacte...@gmail.com on behalf of India Against
 Corruption's members who are users / editors of Wikipedia community

 This is a protest circulated against the strange decision by Anivar
 Aravind to hastily close the QA session for candidates after IAC
 poses uncomfortable queries from the community

 To: nethahuss...@gmail.com,  and other candidates and WMIN members.

 We notice that you are a member of the WIKIMEDIA.IN website and
 actively promoting LGBT issues there including for your election
 campaign.

 We suppose you know that at the present time carnal intercourse
 against the order of nature is against India's laws, and distributing
 grossly obscene / pornographic images of it via WIKIMEDIA.IN is a
 serious criminal offence which IAC has reported to the concerned
 agencies and is seriously prosecuting. IAC is also monitoring
 WIKIMEDIA.IN to assist law enforcement agencies.

 This email is being sent to you as the illegally appointed returning
 officer Anivar Aravind has deleted IAC's query for all candidates for
 the WMIN EC vacancies (which was publicly posted to WIKIMEDIA.IN by
 one of IAC's volunteers as a member of the community).

 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections2014/Nominations/Q%26A


 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Elections2014%2FNominations%2FQ%26Aaction=historysubmitdiff=35158oldid=35146

 PS: And another editor was banned from WIKIMEDIA.IN for asking queries
 on racism and discrimination against Indians at WIKIPEDIA, again by
 Anivar who also refuses to publish the non-existent Karnataka Society
 Rule 1961 to prevent community members posing queries (which actual
 official rules can be accessed here)

 https://www.karnataka.gov.in/karigr/actsrules/karnatakasocietiesact.htm

 from which it is abundantly clear that you are ineligible to contest
 elections and Anivar cannot conduct it.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-05 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is little strange, I can understand that voting and nominations are
 members only regime but why the community is not allowed to participate
 even in QA is not clear to me.

 If it is so, there should be no wiki page or onwiki discussion, or login
 process on wikimedia.in should be membership number based.


As you all know, we at WMIN Elecom initially thought about opening it for
all . But  a member  informed us non-members of a society must not
interfere with its election process and opening QA with candidates to non
members is a violation of this . We asked WMIN to cross check it and as per
the advice we received  we restricted the privilege for asking questions to
members alone . But the pages will remain open for observing the election
process for community .

It is documented here
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections2014#Communications_with_EC_and_Mailing_Lists_about_New_Account_Creation_Blocking

If any community members interested in chapter affairs ,  take a membership
and participate in next year elections

Anivar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-05 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:33 AM, 'Yogesh Khandke' via wmin-members 
wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Please share exact clause.


As a potential candidate , I request you to read  chapter registration
documents and understand what Wikimedia Chapter is and what it is not
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/images/2/20/ChapterRegDocsEnglish.pdf

Anivar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-05 Thread Ravishankar Ayyakkannu
Hi,

Since this is being discussed in open lists,

I request community members not to engage with this issue directly. Doing
so will only complicate the issue further. Any community member getting
such mails can forward them to chapter at wikimedia dot in .

Wikimedia Chapter (India) is well informed of this issue and will take care
of this in a formal way.

Thanks,

Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Fwd: Grossly Obscene pornographic images on WIKIMEDIA.IN

2014-11-05 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:31 AM, 'Yogesh Khandke' via wmin-members 
wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I will, but please answer my last question.


Yogesh , read it and that have answer to your question :-)
Or get in touch with WMIN  as Ravi informed .



 Also to my understanding as an analogy those who stand for election
 election as MPs etc. aren't constitutional experts and legal luminaries?


Same with Elecom.
We are volunteers for conducting election process,
We depends on legal advice from WMIN . So get in touch with WMIN office for
any more clarification

~ Regards
Anivar
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