Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?
Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I was a
complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to work out
that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without infringing a
third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D and permanently
lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's fair game. An
example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; Nelson's Column
comes to mind...
Harry Mitchell
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Phone: 024 7698 0977
Skype: harry_j_mitchell
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A link might be good but as Katie says that will probably not help beginners.
If at all possible I'd like to squeeze this in, as in prtactice the issues
briefly coverd there are of considerable imporetance to Commons, and admins
spend a lot of time having to delete non-free contect that comes within that
field.
I'm happy to try and shorten if we can. Also, can the 'have fun!' sign off be
smaller?
This version maybe saves a line without losing content:
Freedom of panorama ('FoP') in the UK
FoP is a copyright law exception which gives photographers the freedom to
take a photo of any building, or any 3D artistic work (eg sculpture,
jewellery, artwork) that is on permanent public display, without infringing
any copyright held by the architect or artist. 'Public display' means in a
place normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as
museums. FoP does not extend to 3D works that are part of a temporary
exhibition, nor to most 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on
display in public. FoP in the UK allows all modern buildings and some 3D
artistic works to be freely photographed, without copyright concerns, but
note that other countries' rules may differ.
Michael
On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:08, Katie Chan wrote:
Both the English Wikipedia and Commons have a page on FoP, but they're not
necessarily beginners friendly.
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama
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Hi Michael,
Thanks for your comments. The xxx is the space for the URL - once I know
what that will be I'll add it in.
I will try and squeeze that text in although I'm not sure there is space. Is
there a URL we can point people to for fuller details of FoP? It's all a bit
daunting and intimidating for newbies I think.
Thanks,
Stevie
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?
Ok Harry, I will have a go at tweaking the text to put the buildings info
first. It would be easier to be more straightforward if we had more space to
fit this into.
Michael
On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:29, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I was a
complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to work out
that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without infringing a
third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D and
permanently lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's fair
game. An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices;
Nelson's Column comes to mind...
Harry Mitchell
http://enwp.org/User:HJ
Phone: 024 7698 0977
Skype: harry_j_mitchell
From: Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Stevie
Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 15:40
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your
thoughts?
A link might be good but as Katie says that will probably not help beginners.
If at all possible I'd like to squeeze this in, as in prtactice the issues
briefly coverd there are of considerable imporetance to Commons, and admins
spend a lot of time having to delete non-free contect that comes within that
field.
I'm happy to try and shorten if we can. Also, can the 'have fun!' sign off
be smaller?
This version maybe saves a line without losing content:
Freedom of panorama ('FoP') in the UK
FoP is a copyright law exception which gives photographers the freedom to
take a photo of any building, or any 3D artistic work (eg sculpture,
jewellery, artwork) that is on permanent public display, without infringing
any copyright held by the architect or artist. 'Public display' means in a
place normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as
museums. FoP does not extend to 3D works that are part of a temporary
exhibition, nor to most 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on
display in public. FoP in the UK allows all modern buildings and some 3D
artistic works to be freely photographed, without copyright concerns, but
note that other countries' rules may differ.
Michael
On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:08, Katie Chan wrote:
Both the English Wikipedia and Commons have a page on FoP, but they're not
necessarily beginners friendly.
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama
On 13 September 2013 14:35, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your comments. The xxx is the space for the URL - once I know
what that will be I'll add it in.
I will try and squeeze that text in although I'm not sure there is space. Is
there a URL we can point people to for fuller details of FoP? It's all a bit
daunting and intimidating for newbies I think.
Thanks,
Stevie
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?
On 14 September 2013 16:29, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; Nelson's Column comes to mind... Nelson's Column would be out of copyright anyway. Perhaps a more contemporary example, such as the Angel of the North? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?
The Angel of the North is an excellent example of visible, well-photographed, modern public art. Plus it's a good excuse to include a picture of it :-) A. On Saturday, 14 September 2013, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 14 September 2013 16:29, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.comjavascript:; wrote: An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; Nelson's Column comes to mind... Nelson's Column would be out of copyright anyway. Perhaps a more contemporary example, such as the Angel of the North? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org javascript:; http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] At a loose end this weekend? Take some pics and snap out of it!
Quoting Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/?page_id=75 What, in London, hasn't been photographed? Oh, wait, ... Tomorrow's triathalon. Anyone in the city fancy themselves as a sports photographer/reporter? Brian McNeil -- Wikinewsie.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
