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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] GDPR?

2018-05-23 Thread Harry Burt

Incidentally if the charity would like some informal advice on its GDPR
obligations (offlist) I am happy to assist.

Best
Harry

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> I haven’t spotted any emails from WMUK about this yet, are they coming
> soon or is everything already OK here?
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitising old 8mm home movies

2015-09-07 Thread Harry Burt

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> Alternatively buy a scanner?
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Reflecta-Super-8-film-scanner/dp/B00I48MAR6/
>
> :-)
>

Free UK delivery. Bargain!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Technology projects / volunteer strategy consultation

2015-07-21 Thread Harry Burt

[apologies for x-post -- replies to wikimediauk-l please]

Hi all

Ahead of the volunteer strategy day, my Technology Committee colleagues and
I have spent a little time thinking about the volunteer strategy
consultation [1]. Charles is going to speak a little on the subject at the
Volunteer Gathering [2] so I won't pre-empt the entirety of the discussion
there, but rather I wanted to share a couple of personal points that might
be helpful in prompting other thoughts that people can take with them on
the day (sadly I can't myself attend).

The first is that under the model proposed, it will be vital for working
groups to really take ownership of project proposals. Over the last two
years, IMHO TechComm (I can't profess to speak for other committees) has
been pretty good at saying 'Yes', but hasn't been so good at actively
supporting those proposals which it likes. By which I mean, it's been good
at providing (constructive) challenge, but a project based system has
overheads, and working groups will be vital in helping meet those overheads
(e.g. by actively filling out and developing project plans). This will
require a genuine (if not extensive) time commitment of a form that I think
will be quite unfamiliar to many wiki volunteers.

The second is that the model for project plans will also be an interesting
question to get right. On the one hand, it will be important to be able to
be able to compare projects in detail -- there has even been a suggestion
that projects should essentially bid into multiple flexible resource pools,
which will require quite precise assessment of needs. On the other, we do
not wish to put casual volunteers off, or to simply collapse under the
weight of paperwork. I have attempt to put up a quick sketch of a
hypothetical project plan at [3] so there's a tangible proof of concept out
there -- but equally people more knowledgeable than I will be familiar with
what other chapters/IEG/FDC ask for. Incidentally, the plan is hosted on
Launchpad, a microsite TechComm has been looking at developing to capture
former and future projects -- this may be of more general interest.

Just food for thought :)

Many thanks
Harry (User:Jarry1250)

[1] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteer_strategy_consultation_2015
[2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteer_Strategy_Gathering/July_2015
[3] https://launchpad.wikimedia.org.uk/translatesvg/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

2015-06-03 Thread Harry Burt

On 2 Jun 2015 23:52, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote:

 The big advantages of cafes and pubs is that people can come and go, can
 order food and drink if they wish, and don't look odd if the numbers are
 small or large.


Well put!


 The only cafe I know in Oxford is Greens which is next to the Bird and
 Baby in St Giles, is nice, if pricey, but has accessibility issues.


I think in the specific case of Oxford (and probably more generally) I am
pretty confident it would be possible to find a nice café (although not all
will have wheelchair access). Off the top of my head, the Turl Street
Kitchen is nice (if a bit trendy) and GD's (St Aldates) would give the
meetup a different vibe. Participants would be under a bit more pressure to
order *something* (Wetherspoons being very lax about this) but in those two
cases I've never had trouble.


 Possibly university, community, religious or GLAM space might be used
 especially if an additional event was involved, but we would be very lucky
 to get such a venue on a recurring basis.


Certainly in Oxford it is generally pretty easy for a student to book a
room at her/his own college, and many are without cost, although they tend
to be more lecture theatres in setup than cafés!

Harry

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Changes to timings of membership approvals

2015-03-30 Thread Harry Burt


 Hello everyone,

 I am copying here from a post I've just made on the Engine room
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#Changes_to_timings_of_membership_approvals
 :

 At the meeting of the Board of Trustees on 7th March a decision was made
 in lieu of a permanent Chief Executive appointment that the full board of
 trustees would return to considering and approving applications for
 memberships i.e. these will not be done under the scheme of delegation by a
 staff member until a permanent appointment is made and following induction.

 In practical terms this means new members (whether a former lapsed member
 applying or a brand new member) will apply for membership as before, but it
 will not be approved and therefore active until the date of the next
 meeting of the board of Trustees.

 The language on our sign up page now reads:

 *New member:*
 *Your application to become a member of Wikimedia U.K. is now pending
 approval. If you are applying following a previous membership expiring then
 you will need to be re-approved. Following a decision made by Trustees on
 7th March 2015 memberships will be approved by the full board of Trustees
 pending the recruitment of a permanent Chief Executive. The dates of board
 meetings for the year are 20th June, 25th July (AGM), 12th September, 12th
 December. New memberships, including those of former members who have
 lapsed and are re-applying will not be approved until these dates. If you
 wish you application to be approved today, for example, in order to apply
 for a micro-grant, please contact members...@wikimedia.org.uk
 members...@wikimedia.org.uk with your request and reasons.*

 Please do continue to encourage supporters and event attendees to consider
 applying for membership, only make them aware that there will be a wait for
 approval unless there is an urgent need to consider sooner based on project
 support (Grant application/Equipment loan)

 If you have questions or concerns you can reply in the Engine room, email
 members...@wikimedia.org.uk or reply here.

 *Katherine Bavage *
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Importing event calendar

2014-08-12 Thread Harry Burt

I created a version at http://tools.wmflabs.org/wmukevents some time ago
(it works for me). I can't remember why we didn't update the links though.

Harry


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Tristan Hill tris...@saticed.me.uk wrote:

 Hi,

 Unfortunately I use google calendar. I'm trying to add the events calendar
 from https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Events to mine. When adding webcal://
 h2vx.com/ics/wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Events I get
 Could not fetch the URL because robots.txt prevents us from crawling the
 URL.  Anyone else have this working?

 Thanks

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Unsuccessful candidates in UK elections

2014-07-30 Thread Harry Burt

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:

 I have just created:


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unsuccessful_candidates_in_United_Kingdom_elections

 Please help to populate, and eventually subdivide, it. Andy Mabbett


Are you intending this to contain anyone who has every lost an election in
the UK? Or just those who stood but *never* won?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hillsborough page

2014-04-29 Thread Harry Burt

Some more today on the BBC (and probably others):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27203371

It's currently on the BBC homepage with the description The charity that
represents Wikipedia in the UK has condemned edits made from government
computers after more insults and vandalism emerged.

Looks like a good write up (factually accurate) with some choice quotes
from Stevie.

Harry

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Stevie Benton
stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

Just for some context, it's been reported in the Liverpool Echo -
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-wikipedia-insults-added-government-7029881and
the Telegraph -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10786380/Insulting-revisions-to-Wikipedia-entry-on-Hillsborough-made-from-Government-computers.html-
so please be aware it's a live story for now.

If you happen to receive any enquiries, please do feel free to send them
my way.

Thanks and regards,

Stevie

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Just to alert anyone a journalist has been in touch regarding some
reported vandalism to the article about the Hillsborough Disaster =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster

We have explained how it is the community of editors who look after the
content and that we have faith in the sound judgement of the community

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

2014-04-13 Thread Harry Burt

What a fabulous video Jon! Can haz one for the UK?

Harry

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On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Damokos Bence
damokos.be...@wikimedia.huwrote:

 Thanks for sharing this, Jon.

 Best regards,
 Bence

 On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  Damn! Not enough coffee yet
 
  Here it is
 
  Here is the link of the video made with high-school students.
 
 
  On 13 April 2014 07:59, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you are going to repost emails to this list, please ensure you
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  Thanks,
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   Lovely video from Armenia
  
   From: Lilit Tarkhanyan lilit.tarkhan...@wikimedia.am
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Trademark Agreement between Wikimedia UK and Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

2014-04-08 Thread Harry Burt

Is there a digital version available? The scan quality is... not ideal.

Harry


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:

 What implications does this have for QRpedia?

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 On Apr 8, 2014 4:35 PM, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I'm very happy to report that there is now a Trademark Agreement in place
 between Wikimedia UK and Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

 Thank you to the Trademarks team at the WMF for their work in making this
 happen. Thanks also to Jon Davies and Michael Maggs for their input, and to
 Mike Peel for highlighting the need.

 You can see the agreement at
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:WMUK_and_WMF_trademark_agreement.pdf

 If you have any questions about this please do let me know.

 Thanks and regards,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Rights in church bell ringing

2014-03-19 Thread Harry Burt

Amateur orchestras, in particular (unless there are professional church
bell ringers?).

Harry
 On 19 Mar 2014 14:50, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:

 I'm clearly no expert on copyright but I wonder if the rights issue would
 be the same as an orchestra. Would you need to get approval from each
 musician in an orchestra to use a recording of their performance?

 Stevie


 On 19 March 2014 14:43, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 I've raised a question on Commons, about performers; ruiights in
 reoding of church bells:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Church_bells

 I'm no expert, but AIUI, the UK style of bell ringing is different
 from that elsewhere in the world. I hope our ability to upload
 recordings of church bells will not be encumbered by the need to get
 clearance from each bell ringer.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Calling all British-based bloggers and blog readers

2013-12-16 Thread Harry Burt

Hi all,

Further to previous, I am proud to announce that we UK Wikimedians now
have a 'Wikimedia in the UK' themed blog planet (aggregator), live at
[1].

One small issue: at the moment, we don't have many blogs aggregated on
it. So if you're British based, blog in any of the UK's many
languages, and have a blog category/tag (or the whole blog) dedicated
to your Wikimedia or Open Content activities, I'd love to hear from
you. It's a great way to make sure what you write gets the biggest
possible audience :)

Everyone else, why not bookmark the page or consolidate your existing
RSS subscriptions into one easy Planet subscription?

Best,
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addition to just me!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Idea: blog planet for UK Wikimedians

2013-10-22 Thread Harry Burt

Hi all,

One thing that Wikimedia UK's technology committee (which I am on) has
discussed a couple of times is the idea of a blog planet [1]
(aggregator) for use by UK Wikimedians.

Regular Wikimedians will know that there's already an English-language
planet at http://en.planet.wikimedia.org , automatically collating
blog posts from around the web that are both about Wikimedia (or
similar projects, eg. FOSS in general).

The idea with a UK planet would be the collation of blog posts from
(British?) Wikimedians' blogs, with a strong focus on activities
in/around/involving the UK. The hypothesised criteria for inclusion
would limit posts to those in English, Scots, both forms of Gaelic,
Welsh, and the many other languages of the UK. I envisage that, at its
best, it could be a great place to follow as diverse set of events as
wikimeetups, chapter activity, GLAM initiatives--not to mention
everything else that is (and has been) going on.

These are things that are already being blogged about, but many of
these blog posts (I venture) are on individuals' own (under-read)
blogs. By collating blog posts, they are easier to find and hence each
blog post reaches a much wider audience.

Blog planets are not difficult to setup, and would not particularly
resource intensive; it's just a question of whether people would
appreciate such a thing.

Any thoughts?
Harry

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[1] See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_%28software%29 . In
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for volunteers - Open Government Partnership summit

2013-10-10 Thread Harry Burt

Hi Stevie,

Likewise, I could make the Friday (if one can volunteer for single days at
a time).

Harry
On Oct 10, 2013 1:51 PM, Edward Hands edwar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Stevie and Katherine

 Looks like WMUK needs our help at short notice here, so dig deep people!

 I'd be happy to help out on one of those days, preferably just the
 afternoon.  No preference as to day.

 best wishes
 Edward Hands
 Edwardx on WP etc

  Hello everyone,

  I hope you're well.

  Wikimedia UK has been offered a stand at the Open Government Partnership
 summit on 31 October and 1 November. This is excellent news as we will be
 able to spread the word about the Wikimedia mission to many opinion formers
 and policy makers.

  I wonder if there are any volunteers who would be interested in helping
 to staff the stand on 31 October and 1 November.

  I know this is short notice - but this was only confirmed with us about
 ten minutes ago. The thing is, I need to pass on the details of those
 attending from our side TODAY. So I need to hear from you by about 3.30pm
 at the very latest.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your thoughts?

2013-09-13 Thread Harry Burt

Hi Stevie,

It looks very good. For my money, You can upload your photographs of
public domain works, such as old buildings, statues, and art. (page
3) is a little ambiguous (the old applies to all three, but this is
not 100% clear) though I cannot think of anything better.

The only other thing I would question is the use of the term public
domain without a clear nod to the fact that the copyright sense of
the term is not the same as the general usage. In particular, perhaps
the reference to the public domain on page 3 could be qualified with
the word copyright to avoid confusion. On page 11 and the glossary,
one could do the same, or tweak the sentence there to read In
copyright terms, a work is said to be in the public domain if is not
covered by anyone’s copyright. I've seen this confusion a lot myself,
so i think it would be worth it, but others may disagree.

Remember the back page still needs a URL! :)

In general, I think it's great though.

Harry

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Student societies 2013 campaign

2013-08-06 Thread Harry Burt

Thank you.

Which part of the trademark policy covers this? My own reading was
from == Things You Can Do, a Summary ==, which does not give any
examples related to third parties such as student societies (only
second parties, the chapters themselves).

Harry

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 Hello everyone,

 We've looked in to this a bit more deeply, and as long as the student society 
 is associated (or affiliated) with Wikimedia UK and isn't selling any 
 products then there's no need to seek permission to use the marks. The 
 Trademark Policy at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy is 
 the key document here and is quite clear on this, thankfully.

 We're on good terms with the WMF, so if there are any trademark issues that 
 the WMF contacts a student group about, try and let us know, and we can get 
 in touch with the WMF during work hours and smooth over any difficulties.

 I hope this is useful,

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 On 6 August 2013 10:34, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Thanks Charles. When the CUWS was established was there a need for you to 
 discuss trademarking with the WMF? If so, how did you approach this? Are 
 there any apposite lessons you might be able to share?

 Anything that was done would have been by Deryck Chan.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Student societies 2013 campaign

2013-08-05 Thread Harry Burt

I emailed the WMF's trademark people just to confirm that naming a society
the [NAME] Wiki[mp]edia Society did not require approval. Their response
was that it may: a hurdle, if not a large one. Usefully, then, WMUK could
seek some clarification in this area, just to keep the burden on volunteers
down.

Just a thought.

Harry

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Toni Sant toni.s...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 As many subscriber to this mailing list will already know, Wikimedia UK is
 keen to support student 
 societieshttps://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Student_societiestowards a better 
 understanding and improvement of Wikipedia and its sister
 projects. We are currently looking for a volunteer to help me develop a
 strategic plan we've drafted for reaching out to university student unions
 across the UK. This work relates to WMUK's developing efforts to support
 Student Societies focused on editing Wikipedia and other Wikimedia
 projects; it essentially involves an intensive period of concentrated
 effort to reach out to potential new student societies. Details available
 at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Student_societies_2013_campaign_volunteer

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Nice piece from another country.

2013-04-24 Thread Harry Burt

Seems well-informed. Is there any intention to ask for Wikipedian to be
changed to Wikipedian-in-Residence in the prose if not the headline? I
always thought the latter had quite a nice ring to it myself.

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 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22264118

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Funding Opportunity: Google launch the Global Impact Challenge

2013-03-26 Thread Harry Burt

Incidentally, it's worth noting that Google Translate is already
crowdsourced to an extent.

IMHO the idea of translation hints embedded into Wikipedia articles is a
better one. I'm not sure it's going to be possible to construct a pitch for
as complex a project as that within a short amount of time however; it may
even require a new web standard.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Anyone interested in Lua and PIzza one day?

2013-03-14 Thread Harry Burt

Great idea IMHO. Plus, it could also be a useful starting point for
creating a second not-quite-annual UK-based hackathon.

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 Should we have a Lua love-in for UK geeks sometime led by someone who
 understands this?

 Could be a jolly day?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-12 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote:

 Very nice! I will have a play, but it looks like that's more oriented
 towards reorienting than cropping...


Yes; well, it seems to only want to crop black borders from around the
edges. But in any case, reorientation alone is going to save volunteers a
lot of time; and there are good GUIs for batch cropping IIRC once you've
taken out the need for reorientation.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

2013-02-11 Thread Harry Burt

Has anyone tried using unpaper [1] on a sample of images? I could do -- all
you really need is a Unix-based OS and some command-line savvy - but I'm a
little tied up just at the moment.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] FYI: BBC Your paintings artist list

2013-01-09 Thread Harry Burt

People working with YourPaintings might also find the {{Artwork}} generator
at [1] of use.

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 On 3 January 2013 10:37, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

  we've had microformat markup in our infoobxes since 2007 -

 I'm going to raise an Rfc to have all infoboxes renamed infoobox...


  OpenCorprates, OpenDomesday:

 Correction: OpenDomesday doesn't link back to us; I've just requested
 that it do so.

 [[Info(o)box play]] links to Theatricalia, another linked data site
 with reciprocal links too.


  To facilitate further discussion and development, I have just created,
  and am populating, [[Category:External link templates to linked data
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Verifying membership applications - Suggestions and comments

2012-11-20 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 20 November 2012 10:37, Katherine Bavage
 katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
  Morning -
 
  All members are voting members...unless I've missed something?

 I think Harry might have been distinguishing between members that do
 vote and members that don't, rather than members than *can* vote. Just
 like insurance companies only check your details when you try to make
 a claim, we could just check when people try to vote.


Indeed, although I'm not sure exactly what percentage of members choose to
vote, and hence the scale of the efficiency.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Verifying membership applications - Suggestions and comments

2012-11-19 Thread Harry Burt

Aren't there really two points here:
(i) Should we enforce more checks on prospective members?
(ii) Should we enforce more checks on members before we let them vote at
AGMs, whether in person or by proxy?

I think the legal question is a good one. Are charities required to do
neither/either/both? Legal issues aside, surely (ii) but not (i) is the
easiest by quite a margin.

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 Hi All,

 At the board meeting on Saturday a valid point was made that currently the
 verification process for membership applications doesn't really prove a
 barrier to fraudulent or duplicate applications.

 I'd like to look at ways of improving this, so as we aim to expand our
 membership numbers we're also making sure fairness is enshrined in a
 checking process that means people can only have one vote.

 If people pay their membership fee with Paypal, this isn't so much of a
 problem, as having a verified paypal account has already required this
 person to link their identity to their postal address - but we want to be
 as open as possible and so there will be people who give us 'a form and a
 fiver'.

 What checking processes do we think would be acceptable without being
 invasive/onerous? At a basic level, we should be confirming that the
 applicant is the named person at the address given.

 Please flag up concerns, suggestions for services or resources we can use,
 and so on. It may be that we can't completely eliminate the risk of
 fraudulent applications, but we can make it more difficult and provide a
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Verifying membership applications - Suggestions and comments

2012-11-19 Thread Harry Burt

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Katherine Bavage 
katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hey Harry,

 I'm not sure if ii) *is* easier. Compare the work of verifying members
 before every AGM and EGM or merely at the point of joining.

 We don't really have formal check on membership at the moment - no
 applicant is asked to prove their residency at their address of that they
 have provided their real name.


It depends, I suppose, on what kind of check you have in mind. I was
imagining show us proof of identity (with a large burden on the
information supplier) rather than a cheap automated check. By cheap I
also mean monetarily: it's probably not a good use of WMUK money verifying
the addresses of non-voting members if WMUK is not legally obliged to.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile uk.wikimedia.org still failing

2012-10-24 Thread Harry Burt

The assignment feature is rarely used on Wikimedia's bugzilla
installation per se, in fairness. But yes, no developer seems to have
taken a keen interest in it yet.

Harry

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 Thank you. That was closed as a duplicate of

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38799

 which was raised in July this year, and yet is still unassigned.

 On 23 October 2012 23:21, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I've raised this on bugzilla at:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41334
 Please add any clarifying comments there that you think would be useful.

 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:46, Damokos Bence damokos.be...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

 I think this issue affects all *.wikimedia.org addresses (at least the ones
 of chapters hosted by the WMF); a workaround is to change the user-agent
 setting in your mobile browser, if possible.

 Best regards,
 Bence

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Stevie Benton
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 I'm still having problems too.

 Stevie

 On Oct 23, 2012 7:09 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 It appears that this is still an issue.

 On 5 October 2012 12:57, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

  Have just chased this up with the WMF. Thanks for reminding me Andy!

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  It's difficult to promote events like:
 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
  when mobile visits to that URL are redirected to:
 
 http://uk.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
  and errors are returned for all http://uk.m.wikimedia.org pages.
 
  I know this has been raised on this mailing list previously, but
  there's still no sign of a fix.
 
  The impact of this problem can be understood by considering that
  yesterday it was reported that 40% of Wikipedia's growth is mobile,
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  Can this serious bug be (re-)escalated as a matter of urgency, please?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

2012-10-15 Thread Harry Burt

Hi Gorgo,

What does http://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org report for you? The database is
usually pretty accurate.

Harry

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 On 15/10/12 13:28, Craig Franklin wrote:


 Geonotices are only as good as the database underneath.  If the IP
 database doesn't think you're in London, no amount of tinkering with skins
 will fix that.

 Cheers,
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  I see. So in what sense is this a good communications tool?

 Can I enter an IP address range into the database? I am sure thousands of
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

2012-10-15 Thread Harry Burt

(Location-wise, I mean. No need to publish your IP if you don't want to.)

Harry

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 What does http://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org report for you? The database
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 Geonotices are only as good as the database underneath.  If the IP
 database doesn't think you're in London, no amount of tinkering with skins
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 Cheers,
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[Wikimediauk-l] Falklands

2012-08-21 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 The list of monuments at
 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Monumentos_de_la_Provincia_de_Tierra_del_Fuego,_Ant%C3%A1rtida_e_Islas_del_Atl%C3%A1ntico_Sur
 - includes Port Darwin, Fox Bay, Goose Green, Stanley, Pebble Island, and a
 few more. I think it's been imported straight from the Argentine national
 registry, which of course assumes that the Falklands are Argentine.

IMHO the best way to depoliticise the issue would be to either to
create a specific Falklands list/template or to ensure the same
monuments are also on a British list to allow islanders the choice.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New Laptops for events

2012-07-31 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 They all come with Windows 7 installed, but it'd be nice if a volunteer
 with experience in open-source software came in and got them to dual-boot
 with a suitable version of Linux. Any volunteers?


Well, without wanting to start a complete firestorm, dualbooting Ubuntu
12.04 (LTS) via Wubi is really very easy indeed for 95% of setups [1].
Depending on your internet package, you might want to use the Download
Ubuntu link in the bottom left, burn it to CD, insert CD, then run Wubi to
avoid downloading Ubuntu three times over.

I did the same only last week, no problems whatsoever.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Oxford Wikimedians

2012-06-22 Thread Harry Burt

Hey all,

I can't believe I haven't asked this before, but are any lurkers on
this list either (a) members of the University of Oxford (b)
offer-holders from the University of Oxford? Or does anyone know any
Wikimedians who fit either of those descriptions but aren't on this
list? (Feel free to message me offlist in either case.)

It might also be useful in future to know if there are any active
Wikimedians currently studying at Oxford Brookes.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Oxford Wikimedians

2012-06-22 Thread Harry Burt

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jon Davies
jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Any chance of Oxford meetups or a group?

My particular train of though at the moment surrounded the
establishment (re-establishment, IIRC) of a student society suitable
for Wikimedians in Oxford. So yes :)

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Richard Symonds
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 PS: Does this mean we might be having Oxford vs Cambridge editing contests
 in the future?

If all goes well, yes. The establishment of a society would also help
ensure participation in inter-collegiate competitions.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Harry Burt

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 despite it not having the same 'brand' recognition as the movement's
 flagship project.


SOFIXIT :P

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] One technical question

2012-05-10 Thread Harry Burt

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Still trying to sort this one out...
  On open office I cannot get the template to use Arial as a default font.
 Can anyone help?

I've never used OpenOffice before, but I presume Google's suggestion
to do the following doesn't work?

Press F11 to open the Styles and Formatting window. Click the
Paragraph Styles icon.
Right-click on Default and choose Modify. On the Font tab, set
the required typeface and size.
Click OK to save, then save the template.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Role accounts

2012-04-29 Thread Harry Burt

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Charles Matthews
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 snip
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_contact_role_accounts
 does say it is a copyright matter; but the page linked to doesn't seem
 to spell that out. Perhaps it should.

 Charles

As I understand it, there used to be a general concern that the only
way the GFDL could be held to be compatible with pseudonymity was if
there was a 1-to-1 mapping between pseudonyms and human beings.

I'm not sure that was ever actually looked into, since it seems to me
that many-to-many would be just as good, as long as you realised and
confirmed you were asking to be attributed with a vague identifier
(like 99% of humanity does when it picks a name someone else already
has or had).

In any case, role accounts are in all practical terms regarded merely
an accountability issue these days. Which is probably why no page goes
into detail on the copyright matter.

Harry

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyright of pictures from 1870

2012-02-14 Thread Harry Burt

Incidentally, since I don't think anyone mentioned it, it's my
understanding that you can't get UK publication rights if you first
published it in the U.S., only U.S. publication rights. [1] So that is the
best thing to look into regarding publication rights. I think the
assumption of copyright lapse is a good one.

Admittedly, the whole thing makes my head hurt!

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[1] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2967/regulation/17/made 4) A
work qualifies for publication right protection only if—(a)first
publication is in the European Economic Area...

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hkwrote:

 Any update to this?
 Deryck

 2012/2/9 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk

 On 9 February 2012 17:49, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote:
  I am recently engaged in a conversation with [[User:Kimberlyblaker]],
 who
  uploaded a fair amount of old, 19th century pictures onto Commons,
 including
  the album of places in Cambridge (see below) which is of particular
 interest
  to me.
 
  What stumbled me was the copyright status of these images - are they in
 the
  public domain? If they aren't, is it due to publication right, and is
  Kimberly Blaker ( co.) the rightful copyright holder of them?

 If they were previously unpublished - which looks likely, if this is a
 personal photo album of commissioned photographs - then yes, it sounds
 plausible. I'll do a little more research on this this evening and let
 you know :-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Openness - copyright policy

2012-02-12 Thread Harry Burt

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Policy
 
  Please read, contemplate, discuss and amend!
 
  Chris


I do wonder if there's a conflation here of publication and licensing.

For example, it is not clear to me whether publishing personal information
under a restrictive licence is less bad than publishing it under an open
one.

That is to say, I'm not sure that restrictive copyright is the right tool
to use in each of the examples. Wouldn't it be better simply to not
disclose the private information in the first place?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Openness - copyright policy

2012-02-12 Thread Harry Burt

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

  I've raised similar points on the talk page. Would you mind adding
 your comments there? I think that's probably the better venue for this
 discussion.


Of course. Had the discussion page not been a redlink at the time, I
probably would have put my comments there the first time round.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A few requests!

2012-02-08 Thread Harry Burt

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Good afternoon everyone! I have a couple of things that I'm begging your
 assistance with: I hope you folks can help.

1. [...]
2. We've had a couple of contacts from local political parties trying
to get pages about candidates in the upcoming London Assembly elections. At
present, we only really have stubs on a few of the candidates. We told them
politely that it's not something we can help with - WP is written by
volunteers - although we did of course offer to teach their volunteers how
to edit (and edit ethically and openly) if necessary. Perhaps this is
something to keep an eye on when you're patrolling articles, or looking for
a new DYK?

 It's worth noting that traditionally PPCs have had difficulty sustaining
articles, whereas incumbent MPs are all notable. I suspect the same may be
true of L.A. elections.

As the motto goes, sources first, article second. Although I personally
don't mind helping with some of these (being a politics student).

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[Wikimediauk-l] Microgrant application submitted

2012-02-05 Thread Harry Burt

Hey all.

I just submitted a microgrant application [1]. I'm not sure how I'm suppose
to publicise that fact though, so I thought I'd post here.

Apologies if I would have been better off posting elsewhere; I don't know
how many people actively monitor the category itself.

Thanks,
Harry (User:Jarry1250)

[1] https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microgrants/Oxford_Law_Competition
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[Wikimediauk-l] Thanks-Gift-Aid page

2012-02-02 Thread Harry Burt

Hey all.

Perhaps it would be worth some clarifying the Thanks-Gift-Aid page to the
extent that (with the exception of email address) all fields are necessary
for the purpose of claiming GiftAid, and/or that the information provided
will only be used for that purpose and then destroyed (or whatever the
reality of the matter is).

Just a thought,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The new British standard for copyright infringement...

2012-02-01 Thread Harry Burt

That might actually be licensed, though.

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk
 wrote:

 I wonder if http://www.popartuk.com/**photography/london/red-bus-on-**
 westminster-bridge-ph0408-**poster.asphttp://www.popartuk.com/photography/london/red-bus-on-westminster-bridge-ph0408-poster.aspwould
  have been considered enough to make the idea non-novel.


 On 25/01/2012 22:23, geni wrote:

 On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus 
 Manskemagnusmanske@**googlemail.commagnusman...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

 ...photos that somehow look similar:

 http://www.**amateurphotographer.co.uk/**news/photographers_face_**
 copyright_threat_after_shock_**ruling__news_311191.htmlhttp://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html

 The servers are safe (well, relatively speaking) in the U.S., but
 should people in the UK be concerned when uploading images?


 Magnus

 Nothing new here. Its always been understood that in theory if you see
 a photo and take another photo that is similar enough to it to be
 considered a derivative work that that is a copyright violation.
 However in most cases it would be extremely hard to prove and people
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The new British standard for copyright infringement...

2012-01-25 Thread Harry Burt

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:24 PM, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.orgwrote:

 On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  ...photos that somehow look similar:
 
 
 http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html



It is worth having a glance at the images themselves:

http://www.swanturton.com/multimedia/docs/Temple%20Island%20v%20New%20English%20photographs.pdf

I can understand why Amateur Photographer magazine are worried, but the
language they use in the article makes the two images sound far more
different than they actually were IMHO.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-18 Thread Harry Burt

Okay, so http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/27728 is now available,
the product of the earlier conversations on this list and onwiki.

Thoughts on linking to it in a completely voluntary manner from the
blackout notice? Time is of the essence, rather.

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 17/01/2012 22:58, Alison M. Wheeler wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Gordon Jolygordon.j...@pobox.com
  So who owns the Internet? Who has ultimate authority over DNS?
  A very good question indeed ;-P
 
  And the answer, of course, is it depends on who you are talking to. Even
 though it shouldn't. And the people in one country disagree with the rest
 of the world.
 
  AlisonW

 Alison,

 It was two questions!

 :-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-18 Thread Harry Burt

Or numerous other methods to avoid the blackout.

I believe the same FA is going to run for 48 hours.

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Alison M. Wheeler 
wikime...@alisonwheeler.com wrote:


  From: Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com
  I am told that if you disable JavaScript you can see the light.

 Indeed.

 And what is more, the main page doesn't lead with the SOPA news (but does
 include a featured article, which I feel quite sad for as few will see it),
 likewise the [[Portal:Current events]] completely omits the days big event.
 Given that mobile users, non-scripting browsers, etc. can see these pages
 it seems somehow wrong that there is nothing on them.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

What is the official UK call to action here?

Emailing the embassy? Or could you create a Number10-esque petition?

Or did I miss something else entirely?

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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Nicely put. Luckily we are all singing from the same song sheet.

 Are you coming in?
 A bit hectic here.

 Quoting Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk:

  All,
 
 
 
  Just a followup email to let you know that the English Wikipedia
 community
  have decided on an action for the English Wikipedia with regard to the
 SOPA
  and PROTECT acts. The English Wikipedia will be blacked out, worldwide,
 from
  5am GMT on 18 January. The blackout will last for roughly 24 hours.
 There's
  a timer counting down at http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=0
  
 http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=0h=0sts=22114080sln=5-6a=showe
  uid=2a1130f2-81f4-e3c4-7d37-0a1c1001632d
 
 h=0sts=22114080sln=5-6a=showeuid=2a1130f2-81f4-e3c4-7d37-0a1c1001632d.
 
 
 
  If you get any UK press interest, forward them to Jon and me in the
 office
  on 020 7065 0990, or to pr...@wikimedia.org.uk. We have a few volunteers
  with press experience who will be helping out, too (many thanks to them,
  they know who they are!) Bear in mind that tomorrow will be extremely
 busy
  in the WMF and WMUK offices, even though Wikipedia itself will be down.
 The
  key points to remember are:
 
  . It's the community who decided to do this - not a decree from
  Jimmy or the WMF, and not Wikimedia UK. We all support the decision of
 the
  community, however - we're all in this together
 
  . These acts are something that will hurt the freedom of
 information
  globally, even though they're (on the surface) US laws. This may well
 affect
  every .com, .org or .net site worldwide
 
  . Non-English Wikipedias may (or may) be blacking out, depending
 on
  the views of their individual communities
 
 
 
  If you have any major problems over the course of the next 48 hours, or a
  press query, please get in touch. And if you're looking for something to
 do,
  Commons isn't being blacked out, and I imagine that there is a fair
  categorisation backlog.
 
 
 
  All the best,
 
 
 
  Richard Symonds
 
  Office  Development Manager
 
  Wikimedia UK
 
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  Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Our
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  Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 
  Wikimedia UK is the local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate
  Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit
  organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for
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  contents.
 
 
 
  Visit  http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:31 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_State_for_Trade ?

Visa, Mastercard, PayPal - all US companies. SOPA can switch British
businesses off like a light.

- d.

That might be a bit much to ask for.

On the other hand, I don't know how many petition signatures we could get
in a day for:
Her Majesty's Government should voice its disapproval of any proposed
American legislation that would limit the ability of British citizens to
speak freely on the internet.
Say, or something similar.

Just a thought.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

I note that there is a petition with 280 signatures available at:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26143

It seems to be fairly strongly (but not badly IMHO) worded, so therefore
worthy of our support if we can get geolocation going.

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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 AFAIK, there hasn't been time to put in proper geolocation notices, and the
 WMF are still asleep (it's 4 or 5am there).

 However, I believe the best place to forward any comments would be the
 Foreign Office. That said, I think there's a petition being set up,
 however...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

Cool. Then I suggest someone with access to that list put it up [1].

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[1] https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/new

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:18 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17 January 2012 13:16, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:
  As of time of writing, the U.S. Congress is currently considering the
 issue
  of whether to tighten internet policing laws with regard to digital
 rights
  enforcement. Whilst the overall goal of these pieces of proposed
 legislation
  (mostly notably those known as SOPA and PIPA) is not necessarily
  disagreeable, the suggested mechanisms for rights enforcement risk
 damaging
  the quality, quantity and free character of speech on the internet. Given
  the global nature of the internet, we, the undersigned, feel that the
  British Government should consider the possible impact of these measures
 on
  British citizens, and are confident that upon doing so it would see the
  overt and immediate need to speak out on our behalf in this matter.
  My stab at things. Thoughts? Does it need more explanation? Or is brevity
  key?


 FT2 wrote a good one on the comcom list ...


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

Just to say that I asked on IRC and there is no technical issue with having
a UK-only petition appeal appear on the page, if we can get a petition up
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Alison M. Wheeler 
wikime...@alisonwheeler.com wrote:


 One thing to make clear when talking to anyone about this is that whilst
 SOPA/PIPA are proposals in the USA, they are *explicitly* targeted to
 foreign websites. And though the DNS aspect may have been delayed at
 present it is still in there and will be re-introduced at a later stage.
 This permits them to block DNS resolution for .COM .NET .ORG and some other
 TLDs, no matter that the owner of the website/webservice concerned may be
 in the UK (aka not in the USA), and the servers may be in the UK and the
 users may be in the UK *and even if geo-IP is used to ensure that only
 non-USA people can access the site/service then SOPA/PIPA would *still*
 permit that site to be blocked / taken offline.

 Also, given that even .UK .IT .NO and all the rest of the ccTLDs refer
 back to the dozen of so root DNS servers, they too could be poisened under
 the draft bill as it exists. So make no bones about it, these proposals
 *will* affect just about every country in the world if they go through.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 Personal opinion: The best place to discuss UK-specific text, including
 for the proposed petition, would be on-wiki at:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Proposed_Messages
 since it would probably have to be a community-driven action rather than a
 WMUK/WMF one, as with the other non-technical aspects of the blackout (but
 feel free to disagree with that. ;-) ).

 Thanks,
 Mike


Thanks Mike.

I have created
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action/UK_petitionas
a rough first draft, based on some wording from FT2, which I hope he
won't mind me using.

Note that that page refers to the official blurb *of the petition*, not the
wording that goes on the blackout page itself.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Harry Burt

Okay, so, in any case, I think we're too late on this now. I have submitted
a wording in line with FT2's, but there's no guarantee that it will be
processed and made available to sign in anything like the timescales we
need.

It's a shame, but then, all that was at stake was a parliamentary debate
and a little publicity anyhow.

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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 17 January 2012 12:51, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:
  I note that there is a petition with 280 signatures available at:
 
  http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26143
 
  It seems to be fairly strongly (but not badly IMHO) worded, so therefore
  worthy of our support if we can get geolocation going.

 I'd rather we wrote out own petition. We should focus on the freedom
 aspects and the workability of the acts, not things like job losses
 (which I'm not even sure are true).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Laptop recommendations?

2012-01-15 Thread Harry Burt

It might (I haven't scrutinised the exact criteria) also qualify for
funding from Google as part of their Google Summer of Code (GSoC) project
[1]. GSoC is targetted at university students who want to program during
their summer holidays and typically provides stipends of ~$5000 to support
this.

Even if it doesn't, it still might be advantageous to run it alongside GSoC
anyway (but open to students and non-students and privately funded) simply
because GSoC generates a rare interest among potential developers to take
on large-ish for relatively small sums of money.

Just a thought,
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:49 AM, WereSpielChequers 
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I'm correct in assuming that the UK chapter has some spare cash at the
 moment then making AWB and other proven, popular, useful but single OS
 tools available on more operating systems would be a very useful
 investment. Community development, quality improvement and uncontentious.

 WSC


 On 15 January 2012 07:09, Doug Weller dougwel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Acer makes a decent product at around £300 as I recall which of course
 included VAT. Dell makes a decent product starting at £239 excluding
 VAT.

 Windows 7 works fine and people are familiar with it. As Harry says,
 We should focus on getting something that WORKS. It doesn't need
 expert administration to avoid becoming a toxic waste dump I've got
 enough friends and family using it who are no where near experts to
 know that. There's very good and free security software available. So
 go for dual boot to satisfy those who dislike WIndows or any software
 needs. And I'd hide IE. But please let users have the option of a
 familiar interface.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Editor retention

2012-01-04 Thread Harry Burt

Does anyone know how the idea that we might limit article creation to
autoconfirmed users whilst directing non-autoconfirmed users to a special
holding area (AfC or similar) evolved once the Foundation refused to
endorse it as stated?

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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk
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 [snip]

 How can we promote this change effectively?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

2011-12-31 Thread Harry Burt

Seconded - that's fantastic news!

Also, I might as well put it on record that I am more than happy to help
with any bot programming that might be of use during these sort of
initiatives. (I was reminded by the idea of scoring, having spent this
morning updating the WikiCup bot to a 2012 specification, but you name, I'd
be happy to contribute.)

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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:45 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 31 December 2011 11:32, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:

  We have the Archaeological Society signed up. They tell me that we can
  have the lot - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011..


 HUGE WIN! What was the process of convincing them? That's definitely
 one to duplicate!


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Research banner

2011-12-12 Thread Harry Burt

Obviously getting way off topic, but if you want a detailed analysis of the
motivations and surprising findings of these games, they are the four
classics of game theory: the dictator game, the ultimatum game, the public
(goods) game, and the trust game.

The researchers know what they're doing here, the question really is
whether we want to support fairly random pieces of research in this obvious
a manner.

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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 12 December 2011 21:52, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk
 wrote:
  It is, but the type of Wikimedians who would go in for this are likely
  to be more familiar with game theory than the average bear.

 Yes, I'm curious what they actually want to learn. I'm guessing its
 something to do with alturism, but I'm not sure it will work.

 It seems obvious to me that the optimal strategy is to completely
 screw over your associates (it's not the optimal group strategy, but
 you can't control what the group does), so that's what I did (the
 researchers then screwed me over by randomly choosing the game with
 the least win as the one I actually got - they said it was random, but
 they never said they had equal probabilties!). I'm obviously an
 alturistic person (I wouldn't volunteer here otherwise), but my
 alturism doesn't extend to giving random people on the internet that I
 don't know and that don't know me money that I have no idea what
 they'll do with. It's just not a realistic scenario.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Membership renewal / Brighton hackathon

2011-11-14 Thread Harry Burt

Hey all,

it's vaguely that time of year again when I feel like I ought to be
coughing up membership dues. Will a reminder be sent out at the correct
time automatically or is there some other process I should be following?
(I've been a member for two years; it didn't remind me last year but I
heard talk of getting it to in the near future.)

Apologies for asking such a stupid question.

Also, as far as I know we're looking a little under-numbers for the
Brighton Hackathon next weekend so I guess I should drop that into this
email in the name of publicity.

Regards,
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p.s. rather confusingly http://donate.wikimedia.org.uk has a different
favicon from the usual domain, incidentally.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UKs microgrants scheme

2011-10-08 Thread Harry Burt

Incidentally, I believe this was fixed by The Land [1].

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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=454578016oldid=454347327

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just seen a watchlist notice advertising Wikimedia UKs microgrants
 scheme -- perhaps someone can fix the double quote that is used
 instead of an apostrophe.

 Andrew
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A little wiki hacking

2011-09-28 Thread Harry Burt

Sorry to ask such a tangential question, but what is WMUK's position
on non-English wikis that might be suitable for a Scottish audience
(e.g. Scots)? Will it seek to actively promote interest in them?

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Brian McNeil
brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I've created [[Wikimedia in Scotland]] on the WM UK wiki, and would
really appreciate if someone could create a specific Common.css page for
it.

Required is [[MediaWiki:Common.css/Wikimedia in Scotland]] with the
following content:

#p-logo a
{ background-image:
url('http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Wikimedia_in_Scotland-4.5%22.png/150px-Wikimedia_in_Scotland-4.5%22.png')
!important;
}

Once a hard refresh is done, this should then cause the Wikimedia in
Scotland graphic I've created to be displayed as the Wiki logo for that
page only.

Ideally, we then 'tart up' this page a little and have the new
scotwiki.org domain point to it. With help from Peter Weiss, I've a
QRcode which includes a Saltire and points to scotwiki.org.

If we're to make use of this, then I believe one of the key functions of
the page should be to encourage people to create accounts to upload
images, and to perhaps join WMUK.

Scotland is, largely, in need of a drive to recruit contributors who
venture outside when the daystar is visible; or, tap into the wide
international visitor base, get them improving the quantity and quality
of images, then expand coverage across multiple languages.

I'll be discussing this further with Fae on Friday and Saturday, but my
gut instinct is to start with images. The number of people I see -
apparently on holiday - and lugging round £4K+ of camera equipment in
Edinburgh is almost-frightening. Bringing such people into the WMF fold
just seems sensible. rather than a photo they share with friends and
family for 20-30 views per month, they can end up with thousands of
views and encourage others to build and translate content around quality
images.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [cultural-partners] Info: Edinburgh wikimeet on Saturday 1st October

2011-09-18 Thread Harry Burt

 In the meantime, we could do with some comments or advice on our
 teeshirt design. These will be used at our Wikimeet and we will
 probably arrange a print run next week, so there is time for an
 alternative design to be considered if anyone wants to have a crack at
 it. See Brian's current proposed version at
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_in_Scotland-4.5%22.png

Is there an SVG version of that available to allow interested editors
to submit tweaks under a separate filename / generally have a play?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A proposal... MediaWiki Hackathon

2011-08-26 Thread Harry Burt

Per previous, I am still interested in this, though I would probably attend
for a day (no overnight), but we'll see.

No point getting a large place though, if it's still such a short list. Even
a packed 20-seater would be better than an empty 80-seater, I guess.

But on the upside, it can still be a success even with low numbers of
attendees and I'm looking forward to it :)

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, WereSpielChequers 
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've put it in the meta meetup template
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMeetup_listaction=historysubmitdiff=2845220oldid=2843061

 But I suggest not doing any geonotices until you have booked at a venue and
 put it on the meetup page.

 WSC


 On 26 August 2011 10:41, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I don't know if Brighton has a Linux User Group? But they might be
 interested (and also may have suggestions for venues and other helpful
 stuff).

 The only really important thing in a venue is the WiFi ;)

 As to advertising; post on the Bot Owners Noticeboard.

 Tom


 On 26 August 2011 10:22, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:


  Crumbs, I'm not having the best of luck with organising a date for this
  :| I see the wiki was only just updated for both of these …

 Sorry about that - the dates have been at
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings for a while, but I only realised
 that they weren't on the events page this morning.

  Speaking of board meetings, I wonder if my membership application has
  made it in yet..

 I can't spot it on the online system - did you apply online or by post?

  It doesn't look like we're going to fill much of the hall/area I've
  looked into booking, let alone the breakout room (if anyone wants a
  breakout room for up to 20 people, let me know!) lol.. could be
  interesting ^.^

 I'm sure you'll fill it in the end - it'll just take a little work to get
 people's attentions. ;-) Another thought - it would probably be worth
 contacting university computer science departments to see if they have
 anyone interested in coming along and learning how to contribute to
 mediawiki. Similarly other UK tech groups.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Question: When and how often should WM-UK give grants for digitization projects?

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Burt

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Charles Matthews 
charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 snip

Further, experience at Wikisource suggests that
 proofreading is the bottleneck, rather than scanning.
  /snip


Other items in this interesting discussion notwithstanding, does anyone know
the WikiSource position on paying for proofreading? en.wp is against paid
editing, but almost entirely on bias grounds, and there's no room for bias
here: either a proofreading is right or it's wrong.

One might reasonably worry about the impact on the community of having an
amount of work paid for, but, on the flipside this is donkey work and I
daresay the going rates would be very low (I base this on having flicked
through prices on AMmazon's Mechanical Turk project).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Charity outreach favour

2011-08-13 Thread Harry Burt

Hey Chris.

I'm happy to help if I can?

Regards,
Harry (user:Jarry1250)

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you don't find any luck here, OTRS are good at this kind of thing.

 On 12 August 2011 17:39, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
  A charity I know is trying to update its wikipedia entry to deal with
 what
  they see as a case of WP:UNDUE, and finding they are getting snapped at
  on-wiki.
  I was wondering if someone might be prepared to help them find
 appropriate
  ways of improving the article.
  I would offer myself if the charity concerned wasn't my employer ;-)
  If you can help, please drop me a line.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] two-letter UK domains: any use?

2011-06-09 Thread Harry Burt

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not even as if wp is that closely associated with Wikipedia.
 Online you have worldpress. Within the UK you have two police forces
 and that widening participation program.


Isn't that a good thing? Get some resale value? Maybe WMUK
could retain ownership and lease them out - i.e. total control to ensure
they aren't misused, maybe even a profit.

Okay, that's all hypothetical, but my point was that competition isn't
necessarily a bad thing.

Grab a few, I say.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events - hackathon

2011-05-15 Thread Harry Burt

This is something I'd like to attend. I run bots, have a Toolserver account
and have submitted patches to the main MediaWiki codebase.

Only problem for me may be the timing (I have exams). But that can be sorted
later.

Regards,
Harry (User:Jarry1250)

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I know of 1 developer in the UK, who is currently in Berlin, and I'd
 hope to have commit by then. One thing I have noticed, is that a lot of
 the developers there, are WMF staff/contractors from all over the place
 that have flown in, so it'd be interesting to see what the deal is with
 that... (I know Tim Starling, the release manager has probably flown in
 from Australia). It'd also be chance for British Wikimedians to talk to
 the developers, share some opinions face to face, and for people to do
 talks on general WM-UK stuff if they wanted to...

 -- Lewis Cawte

 On 14/05/11 11:41, Mike Peel wrote:
  A hackathon in the uk would be great. My main worry with it would be
 having enough developers turn up at it, though. There are a lot of German
 mediawiki developers, which means that the events in Berlin are always
 successful, but there are a lot fewer devs in the uk. So I suspect the main
 focus of at least the first hackathon would be introducing people to the
 code - which then needs a cadre of current developers to lead, teach and
 assist as they make their first commits.
 
  I'd love to hear thoughts from others about this - particularly from any
 devs on this list.
 
  Thanks,
  Mike
 
  On 14 May 2011, at 11:31, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hm, I think we should throw a hackathon, I've been watching the talks at
  the one in Berlin so far, and its quite interesting. I'd show up and
  would help with some things (not a member of WM-UK though), but its an
  idea, anyway...
 
  -- Lewis Cawte
 
  On 27/04/11 18:04, steve virgin wrote:
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events
 
 
  Hi Lewis
 
  Answer is 'yes'
 
  The next year's events are starting to be discussed now and input is
 warmly
  welcome.
 
  Attached link is a place to keep an eye on as it will show events as
 they
  begin to happen. Do get involved if you can, it would be great to meet
 up
  with you at one.
 
  Best
 
  Steve
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
  [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lewis
 Cawte
  Sent: 27 April 2011 17:47
  To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm not a member of Wikimedia UK (because I can never find the money
  when I think about joining), but I've noticed a lot of the events are
  university things or museum stuff, I was wondering, are there any other
  types of events, for example, I know the Dutch/German chapters run or
  host the occasional Hack-a-Thon or meetups at other coding related
  events. Do we do anything other than the GLAM or whatever it is?
 
  -- Lewis Cawte
  14 year old Wikimedia, LAMP server owner and follower of MediaWiki
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events - hackathon

2011-05-14 Thread Harry Burt

(resending this due to mailing list subscription quirks)

This is something I'd like to attend. I run bots, have a Toolserver account
and have submitted patches to the main MediaWiki codebase.

Only problem for me may be the timing (I have exams). But that can be sorted
later.

Regards,
Harry (User:Jarry1250)


On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I know of 1 developer in the UK, who is currently in Berlin, and I'd
 hope to have commit by then. One thing I have noticed, is that a lot of
 the developers there, are WMF staff/contractors from all over the place
 that have flown in, so it'd be interesting to see what the deal is with
 that... (I know Tim Starling, the release manager has probably flown in
 from Australia). It'd also be chance for British Wikimedians to talk to
 the developers, share some opinions face to face, and for people to do
 talks on general WM-UK stuff if they wanted to...

 -- Lewis Cawte

 On 14/05/11 11:41, Mike Peel wrote:
  A hackathon in the uk would be great. My main worry with it would be
 having enough developers turn up at it, though. There are a lot of German
 mediawiki developers, which means that the events in Berlin are always
 successful, but there are a lot fewer devs in the uk. So I suspect the main
 focus of at least the first hackathon would be introducing people to the
 code - which then needs a cadre of current developers to lead, teach and
 assist as they make their first commits.
 
  I'd love to hear thoughts from others about this - particularly from any
 devs on this list.
 
  Thanks,
  Mike
 
  On 14 May 2011, at 11:31, Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hm, I think we should throw a hackathon, I've been watching the talks at
  the one in Berlin so far, and its quite interesting. I'd show up and
  would help with some things (not a member of WM-UK though), but its an
  idea, anyway...
 
  -- Lewis Cawte
 
  On 27/04/11 18:04, steve virgin wrote:
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events
 
 
  Hi Lewis
 
  Answer is 'yes'
 
  The next year's events are starting to be discussed now and input is
 warmly
  welcome.
 
  Attached link is a place to keep an eye on as it will show events as
 they
  begin to happen. Do get involved if you can, it would be great to meet
 up
  with you at one.
 
  Best
 
  Steve
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
  [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lewis
 Cawte
  Sent: 27 April 2011 17:47
  To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm not a member of Wikimedia UK (because I can never find the money
  when I think about joining), but I've noticed a lot of the events are
  university things or museum stuff, I was wondering, are there any other
  types of events, for example, I know the Dutch/German chapters run or
  host the occasional Hack-a-Thon or meetups at other coding related
  events. Do we do anything other than the GLAM or whatever it is?
 
  -- Lewis Cawte
  14 year old Wikimedia, LAMP server owner and follower of MediaWiki
  development.
 
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