Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Michael Maggs takes over as Chair of Wikimedia UK
On 9 December 2013 06:06, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote: Hello everyone, Please see the below short statement from Wikimedia UK. Thanks and regards, Stevie Wikimedia UK today announces that Michael Maggs has been elected as the new Chair of the charity, succeeding Chris Keating. Chris remains a trustee and will continue to serve on the board. Chris stepped down at the charity’s board meeting in Edinburgh this weekend, having served as Chair since August 2012. The board then unanimously elected Michael as replacement Chair. Chris Keating said: “It has been a privilege to serve as Chair of Wikimedia UK for the last sixteen months and seeing the charity develop over that time has been very satisfying. I look forward to continuing to act as a trustee until my current term concludes at the charity’s next AGM in August 2014.” Michael Maggs said: “On behalf of the board I would like to place on record our thanks to Chris for his excellent leadership of the charity over the last sixteen months. I am happy that he will remain a trustee and will continue to provide the board with his expert advice. I look forward to continuing his good work.” Congratulations Michael, and thank you Chris for all your work! James. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] List reply-to setting (was: 2013 Developer proposal)
An 22 August 2012 12:14, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Sending this again because it went off-list by accident. Anyone know why Tom's email didn't have a reply-to header? Yes; as part of the changes we made to the list last week, we set it so that reply will by default only reply to the sender, and you have to reply-all to send to the list, as one small way to make it more likely that people know they're replying in a way that is published and archived forever. James. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Status of this list and its archives
All, Over the past few months a number of individuals have asked for some, many, or all e-mails they have written to be removed from the archives. In general, our answer has been a holding 'no', but the mailing list's archives were nevertheless temporarily hidden from view. This was unsatisfactory in a number of ways, and we regret our failure to communicate to the list what was happening. On behalf of all of the UK Wikimedia mailing list's administrators, I would like to apologise, and explain. As a public mailing list, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy on WikimediaUK-l or any other public Wikimedia-hosted list. Anyone who thinks otherwise is misleading themselves and those to whom they communicate these views. As has been noted before, the act of deletion is very much blowing up the stable after the horse has bolted: deleting e-mails from the WMF-hosted archives will at best flag them to certain individuals as containing information that is worth ferreting out from the many other archives that are not under our control in any way. Indeed, deleting e-mails is problematic in a number of ways: * it hides the institutional knowledge that the mailing list's archives contain; * it gives an utterly false sense of security to people concerned about their privacy; * it turns an open forum into one where users are unsure about what to expect in terms of repeatability; and * it is difficult and resource-expensive to achieve, and risks breaking the mailing list server for all of the hundreds of WMF-hosted lists. We will not agree to keeping the lists pseudo-private, or to the mass-deletion of content. We understand that this may concern some users, but we cannot wave a magic wand and fix what is broken. If some users find that this means that they are unable or unwilling to continue to contribute to this list, we are saddened, but would note that similar (and often far stronger) privacy issues are involved in other forms of online engagement, such as visiting most commercial websites, using instant messaging or editing Wikipedia. The sign-up page for this mailing list[0] is not as clear as it could be as to the general nature of a mailing list, hailing as it does from the days when this was expected prior knowledge of anyone stumbling over the page. We will adjust it to be more explicit about the instant public dissemination and (in practical terms) irrevocable, distributed, permanent public archiving of all messages sent to a public list; this e-mail is also part of that user education work. For the WikimediaUK-l volunteer mailing list admins, James F. [0] - https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Draft Communications Bill
On 1 July 2012 13:00, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: None of which will matter if the law is so broadly drawn that Wikimedia UK or even an individual Wikimedian could be held to be an operator of a telecommunications system. It's entirely foreseeable that UK police would consider anyone with 'higher' rights (probably +sysop, definitely +bureaucrat, and without-doubt +oversight, +checkuser, and +steward) as having sufficient level of control and access to privileged data that normal members of the public wouldn't that they count as 'operators'. In the worst, most paranoid case, this would mean that privs would have to be removed from all Wikimedians resident in the UK or otherwise subject to UK jurisdiction (e.g. employed by a company with a UK office, or having financial accounts run by banks with UK offices, or occasionally flying to/through the UK, or having family who would be similarly affected). If this were to be the case, the only rational choice for the community, given the normal criminal gagging clauses for admitting helping the police in such cases and so massive uncertainly and doubt, would be to de-priv every user who might be affected by these rules, for WMF to sack every staff member so affected[*], and for the community to have to consciously avoid flying via London to any event, ever. I'd imagine - hope - that the movement would be concerned about this state of affairs. And I'd suggest for those that think this goes way beyond what the law would ever end up being this 'bad' should read the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, or study the effect of Brazilian and Italian heavy regulation of the Internet that have led to US-based companies' staff being arrested when changing 'planes in these countries. Trivialising this may well prove a very bad idea. [*] I declare my interest. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal capacity) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects
On Thursday, June 7, 2012, Gordon Joly wrote: On 07/06/12 10:42, Roger Bamkin wrote: *Wikimeets* - We are not Wikimedia London (although they did well as well) It will not be the same without James F BTW, have we decided if he is a spy? And for which side? :-) I continue to claim that I'm not. However, my duty to impartiality points to the Mandy Rice-Davies interjection. ;-P J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election and resolution results
On 12 May 2012 22:44, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: What membership email list Gordon wants to trigger a CiviCRM all-current-members mass e-mail to update all Members of the Charity (i.e., trigger the no-you-can't-really-unsubscribe list). James has said it'll be done when Richard gets back to the office, probably on Monday. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'twas the night before the AGM...
On 11 May 2012 18:54, Tom Holden tom.hol...@economics.ox.ac.uk wrote: Should we have had confirmation of our proxy votes? I've emailed mine twice (the second time following the reminder email) and received nothing. I believe that the Tellers are going to get back to everyone to confirm today. If you've not heard back by 21:00 tomorrow, I'd recommend e-mailing again. Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014
On 5 May 2012 17:23, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: It is clear that a lot of people want to come but can't make the proposed date. I've created a doodle poll here for people to specify what dates they can make so we can find a date and time that best suits everyone: http://www.doodle.com/8h62aa4zrxuwz5y5 There's a lot of time until the 2014 bidding process starts (indeed, we need to work out what the new process /is/), so there's no reason we couldn't do two meetings, say one next Sunday (after the WikiConference), and one on the 20th or 27th? J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Fwd: Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group
Please see the below if of interest to you UK-based Wikimedians. J. -- Forwarded message -- From: Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org Date: 9 April 2012 20:10 Subject: [Internal-l] Fwd: Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org Cross-posting: Please forward this to other community and chapter lists as appropriate. -- Forwarded message -- From: Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM Subject: Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear all, Following up on the Wikimedia Foundation's Board resolution on Funds Dissemination[1], we are launching work on the design of the Funds Dissemination Committee[2] To help in the design and implementation work ahead, we are creating an Advisory Group which will begin work very soon. Information on the nomination process for the formation of the Advisory Group is available on meta [3] and we would encourage interested candidates who meet the criteria to consider applying. Please also pass this information on to people in the wider community. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Funds_Dissemination_Committee [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/FDC_Advisory_Group/Formation Best, Barry -- Barry Newstead Chief Global Development Officer Wikimedia Foundation Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -- Barry Newstead Chief Global Development Officer Wikimedia Foundation Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Internal-l mailing list interna...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Backstage Pass, Black Country Living Musuem, 18 Feb
On 17 February 2012 17:58, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote: Ive been persuaded to go to this event. I think this will work out well as I'm keen to see a fresh look at WLM which you guys should be able to find. Fae will be there to represent the board and I know James F will also be there. Much as Roger's wording is very kind, I should just point out that I'm no one special, just another volunteer. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The new British standard for copyright infringement...
On 25 January 2012 19:18, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: ...photos that somehow look similar: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/photographers_face_copyright_threat_after_shock_ruling__news_311191.html Good heavens. That's bonkers; there's possibly a trademark argument, but copyright?! The servers are safe (well, relatively speaking) in the U.S., but should people in the UK be concerned when uploading images? It may be a bit to early to say - it's still apparently on-going (appeal?)... Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Chapters Committee Call for Candidates
For those not on foundation-l - ChapCom is hugely important in how the movement as a whole operates, and it might be of interest to some of the readers of this list. J. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com Date: 21 January 2012 20:25 Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Chapters Committee Call for Candidates To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear all, The Chapters Committee[1], the committee that is mainly responsible for the preparation of approval of new chapters is looking for five new members, and we are looking for candidates. The main focus of Chapcom is to guide groups of volunteers in forming chapters. We make sure that the group is large enough (and advise them on how to get bigger), review their bylaws for compliance with the requirements for chapters and advise the Board of the Wikimedia Foundation on chapter approvals. This requires communication with chapter candidates all over the World, negotiating skills and cultural sensitivity and the ability to understand legal texts. Key skills/experience that we are looking for in new members are typically: * willingness to work in a sometimes bureaucratic process (reviewing bylaws can be somewhat boring) * 1-2 hours per week availability * international orientation * good communication skills in English * ability to work and communicate with other cultures * a strong understanding of the structure and work of both chapters and the WMF * experience with or in an active chapter * an active position in a chapter is a plus * communication skills in other major world languages are a plus The number of chapter applications is increasing and help is wanted! You can send your applications with your name, contact data, experience and motivation to the ChapCom email address, chaptercommitte...@lists.wikimedia.org by February 15. The applications will be considered by the current members. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me privately. I am also happy to chat with anyone about our work, if this helps them decide to apply. Please distribute this call widely among your networks, and do apply if you are interested. Best regards, Bence Damokos chair, Chapters Committee [1]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Foundation-L, the public mailing list about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects. For more information about Foundation-L: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Laptop recommendations?
On 14 January 2012 22:39, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hi all, I'm currently putting together a proposal for purchasing tech equipment to support future events/activities at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Event_Tech Input on this would be very welcome - please edit the page directly, or leave comments on the talk page. In particular, I'm going to recommend that we purchase a couple of laptops this month, for volunteers to use at events/activities/when visiting the office (the OTRS workshop last weekend highlighted the need for getting these asap). Laptop recommendations would be much appreciated. The default option at the moment is a standard cheap Asus 15/1.5GHz/4GB/500GB machine, with the pre-installed Windows wiped and Linux installed - but there must be better low-cost laptop options out there than that... What about Google Chromebooks? They're a little cheaper, but more importantly they're near-impossible to damage the OS (so you can hand them out at an event, get them back then wipe them). Also, no Windows tax. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Editing sessions in the new year
On 9 December 2011 19:36, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: This is basically what we've been doing with the Girl Geeks. I'd be more than happy to help out. If possible, it would be good to put it in a location that's easiest to get to for most of the 'customers'. Or perhaps holding several and making sure we're nice and geographically diverse. This sounds like a great idea. I'd love to help out running a few of these in the South-East/London; might be sensible to get a rough feel of distribution to work out how many (and how widespread) we'd want them to be... J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise
On 12 September 2011 21:08, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com wrote: Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? To clarify, I faked a range of seasonal greetings cards with the Wikimedia Community logo and a reference to the source from Commons on the back, using Moo. Partially as a prompt to people about doing merchandise, to be honest. :-) I know I'm really sad, but a Wikimedia logo lapel pin (in coloured enamel) would be very nice for regular office-workers like me who want to demonstrate the wiki-love in their regular lives. And of course, Wikimedia Deutschland's lanyard that's so over-specified you could use one to attach your parachute to it are great, too. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] September London wikimeet and candidate WMUK chief execs
On 5 September 2011 09:12, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: I humbly assert that this process (many Wikipedians, face to face, in a pub in London) breaks any modern standards of the selection process (e.g. all candidates being asked the same set of questions). Well, the way I see it it's more that it's an opportunity for the potential Chiefs Executive to consider whether they really want to serve our community - so best behaviour from all attendees, please! Certainly, I wouldn't want the Board to make a decision based on a few idle chats in a pub, but I'm sure they wouldn't. Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeets - best place to organise them online?
On 2 July 2011 10:24, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to figure out where the best place to do the online organisation of wikimeets is. I can think of four different places, each with pros and cons, which I'd appreciate others' views on. [Snip] 3) Wikimedia UK wiki Pros: Encourages involvement in different types of activities happening in the UK. Wikimeets would be listed amongst other UK-events more easily. Cons: Makes it more difficult to find out about other wikimeets. May make it harder for UK people to find wikimeets in other countries when abroad. May make it seem like WMUK 'owns' the wikimeets, which may discourage people to organise them. You missed out that it will only be seen by people that already know that the wikimeets exist, or that Wikimedia UK does. We very frequently get new people at the London meetups who had no idea that the meetups existed, and certainly no idea that WMUK (or any chapters) do. I think it would be a mistake to ghettoise the meetups into a non-community wiki. however much we happen to love WMUK. I'm leaning towards using the WMUK wiki for organising the Manchester wikimeets (and in a bit of a different format from the standard - keeping a single wiki page rather than creating a new one each time), but I'm less sure about how this would be received. Input/comments would be very welcome. I think meta is a good place (but then, I did move the London ones there after a complaint from a non-enwiki-er, so I'm biased ;-)). I also think the real value now we have SUL is not in the home but in the advertising for them. Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis
On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome! I do plan to come to one of the London meetups *soon*. :-) Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups (and especially my meetups in London), they are primarily social affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things, they are very much the start rather than the end. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] July 4 meetup
On 22 June 2010 17:25, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is anyone interested in my doing a Facebook event page for the London meetup on July 4? I've done this for San Francisco with some success, and have recently created pages for the DC and Montréal meetups coming up this weekend. When I set these up, I do so under the Wikipedia facebook group, which advertises it to, basically, everyone who is a fan, but I keep the invitation list hidden to administrators only. I also make other attendees administrators of the event page, and would do so for this one as well. Cary, This sounds like a good idea. Always worth trying something sensible once. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania attendees?
All, I'm in Buenos Aires for the Wikimania conference in a few days, and was wondering if there are any Wikimedia UK-related people around. I'm getting asked questions and invited to things as if I can talk 'officially' for the chapter (which of course I cannot). Is there going to be someone here who will be able to help people more 'officially'? Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania attendees?
2009/8/24 Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com: At 12:46 -0400 24/8/09, James Forrester wrote: 2009/8/24 Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com: Line James up for Poland next year? Well, I'd like to think that the Board will ensure at least one (ideally all) of them attend Wikimania when it's on the same continent! :-) So, will I see you there then? It will be like the old days (in Frankfurt) eh? :D Don't forget that James has attended all Wikimania Conference! I am sure he will correct me if he missed one Yes, I've been to all Wikimania conferences so far (there have only been 5), and have helped organise all of them (to a decreasing extent since Boston, thankfully!). There are about a dozen or so people who have been to all of them so far; one of the little tasks I keep failing to do is come up with a comprehensive list. :-) James. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: UK Deletionists - a request
2009/8/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/8/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/8/10 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
Hi all,
Anyone interested in the below? As I understand it, they want to
cover the range of philosophies on Wikipedia - they already have
people involved with an inclusionist or middle-ist point of view, but
no-one from a deletionist viewpoint.
Could be tricky. Classic deletionism is largely a spent force to the
point where the deletion/inclusion argument isn't anywhere near the
conflict it used to be. What do they need from those who take part?
Heh I would still tend to identify as a deletionist but for somewhat
different reasons than classic deletionism.
That's what I was thinking - there are very few people that actually
fall neatly into one of those categories. If they portray Wikipedia as
having a deletion/inclusion divide it will be rather misleading. We've
pretty much reached a consensus on what it means to be notable, it's
just how to apply that to individual cases that gives us material for
our much loved dramas.
From my (archaic? ;-)) relatively inclusionist PoV (the specific
'camp' with which I most closely identified/y was eventualism), I
consider the prevailing attitude on enwiki to be rather more
deletionist than it was in the early days ('02-'04); the 2005-6
period was considerably more deleitionist still, certainly, and we've
relented from that to an extent, but mostly in the form of subject
beach-heads combined with draconian rules for the unwary (the CSAs in
particular); I feel that the enwiki community at large is slowly
drifting further towards the inclusionist mentality, but at the same
time, away from the eventualist PoV, which the CSAs undermines.
A proper consideration of this multi-dimensionality could be
interesting for community members, but (a) difficult to put across,
and (b) not necessarily as interesting, to outsiders.
J.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
2009/4/28 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too. The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the actual message (since he's still registered contact). Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately thereafter). Not sure about timings etc. Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-) J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM Resolutions
2009/3/3 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk: The Board has an action to register with the Charity Commission as soon as it's likely that our income will be more than £5,000 - which will be as soon were announced as the winning bid for Wikimania 2010 (- grin-), or, failing that, when our donations get to that level in I guess 1-2 years' time? Hmm. Frankly, I expect us to clear the £5000 threshold in a matter of months - there have been lots of expressions of interest over the years. We on the old Board considered full Charity status to be an absolute priority, and our failure to achieve it was what led the Board to close WMUK v.1 down in favour of re-starting. Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM
2008/12/14 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2008/12/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2008/12/14 AndrewRT ratur...@yahoo.co.uk: There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to know each other more that you can with an online meeting. For an AGM, a meeting in person may be appropriate, for all the social reasons you describe. For getting stuff done, IRC meetings are very nicely practical things IME. The chair needs to ride herd on them firmly and everyone needs to keep to the agenda, but they work quite well enough. And of course you have the log to hand. The key thing about an AGM that makes IRC impractical is the size. A board meeting with less than 10 people works great online (as long as you have a decent chair). An AGM with 20+ people is another matter and no chair could handle that well. You would end up with people talking over each other too much and everything would get confused. You can hold a QA with those kind of numbers online (people PM the chair with their questions), but not an actual discussion. Umm, +m? And sure you can hold actual discussions, it's just all moderated through the Chair. I generally find, if anything, that the meetings are more effective and efficient. J. -- James D. Forrester jdforres...@wikimedia.org | jdforres...@gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
