Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 2019 AGM in Bristol on Saturday 13th July

[steve virgin]

It has been held in Bristol before here

 

https://www.watershed.co.uk/venue-hire

 

 

 

From: Wikimediauk-l  On Behalf Of 
Lucy Crompton-Reid
Sent: 15 January 2019 21:42
To: Rod Ward 
Cc: UK Wikimedia mailing list 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 2019 AGM in Bristol on Saturday 13th July

 

Hi Rod

 

That's great, thanks so much - will send round a few more details about the 
sort of event we're planning later this week. In the meantime I just wanted to 
clarify that I meant Wikimedia UK members. We have residential addresses for 
all members as part of the information we collect when people sign up, so it's 
on that basis. The next biggest cities as far as our members are concerned are 
Oxford, Glasgow and Cambridge, which I found quite interesting. 

 

Best

Lucy

 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 17:53, mailto:r...@rodspace.co.uk> 
> wrote:

Hi Lucy,

Thanks for this advance notice. I have not attended before (largely because 
this and other activities are generally in London).

I work in Bristol and live nearby. I have visited and have some contacts with 
various local venues – have you got any details about the number expected and 
the sort of facilities that are likely to be required – I may be able to 
suggest some suitable locations or provide contact details.

I wonder how the data is obtained about this being the second highest location 
for number of members as the Bristol wikiproject 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Bristol ) is not that 
active.

Rod

On 15 January 2019 at 12:23 Lucy Crompton-Reid 
mailto:lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> > wrote: 

Dear all

 

I just wanted to give you all an early heads up that we are planning to hold 
Wikimedia UK's AGM this year on Saturday 13th July. We are looking at holding 
the event in Bristol for various reasons, but primarily because this is the 
city where the second highest number of our members lives (the first is 
London). 

 

My colleague Katie will be starting to look at venues over the next few weeks 
so if you have any suggestions or contacts, please get in touch!

 

Many thanks

Lucy

 

 


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

[steve virgin]

So go along to the Board meeting and ask directly - I've no doubt they'll hand 
you a copy after they've done whatever is still left to do. Then the discussion 
can begin in earnest.  Perhaps it is nothing more sinister than getting 5 Board 
members in a room to listen to a couple of things say 'OK, we agree' - and that 
is happening in less than 72 hours. I am sure the first action the Board will 
want when it meets will be 'put it online' and 'let the discussion start' 



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton
Sent: 06 February 2013 18:55
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 6 February 2013 18:49, steve virgin  wrote:
> Tango
>
>
>
> I’ve always said you have a heart of gold Tom. Give the guys in London 
> 3-4 more days and we’ll all see it I am sure.  If it is longer than 
> that I’ll complain too, jointly with you.

The board meeting is in less than 3 days - Chris has said he wants the 
community to have a chance to review it before the board meeting, so they need 
to publish in the next 24 hours or so to meet his target.

What do you think "the guys in London" should be doing over the next
3-4 days? As I've said repeatedly, and no-one has attempted to counter, it 
doesn't make sense to prepare a response beyond "we're starting a discussion" 
before the discussion has taken place. Why can't we all be reviewing the report 
at the same time?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

[steve virgin]

Tango

 

I’ve always said you have a heart of gold Tom. Give the guys in London 3-4 more 
days and we’ll all see it I am sure.  If it is longer than that I’ll complain 
too, jointly with you.

 

Steve

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton
Sent: 06 February 2013 18:00
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

 

Yes, but he's trolling and complimenting me, so we must make allowances!

On Feb 6, 2013 5:35 PM, "steve virgin"  wrote:


+1

He most certainly is



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard
Sent: 06 February 2013 17:02
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 6 February 2013 16:56, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Speaking just for myself, I was actually enjoying Thomas' posts,
> rather than resenting them filling up my inbox.
> Yours, on the other hand, I did resent: for its glib pomposity.


Considering you are in fact here to troll, that's just fine.


- d.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

[steve virgin]

+1

He most certainly is



-Original Message-
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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard
Sent: 06 February 2013 17:02
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Governance review

On 6 February 2013 16:56, Andreas Kolbe  wrote:

> Speaking just for myself, I was actually enjoying Thomas' posts, 
> rather than resenting them filling up my inbox.
> Yours, on the other hand, I did resent: for its glib pomposity.


Considering you are in fact here to troll, that's just fine.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedian in Residence at the Science Museum and the Natural History Museum - applications welcome!

[steve virgin]

 

I am so pleased this happening, having worked on this Autumn-Winter-Spring
2011-2012 when I was on the Board last year

 

Will be a fantastic opportunity for someone

 

Steve

 

 

 

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Sent: 25 January 2013 16:26
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list; off...@wikimedia.org.uk
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedian in Residence at the Science Museum and
the Natural History Museum - applications welcome!

 

The Natural History Museum and the Science Museum, working with Wikimedia
UK, have today announced the joint recruitment of a Wikimedian in Residence!
Anyone interested is more than welcome to apply - more details on our blog:

 

http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/01/science-museum-natural-history-museum-a
nd-wikimedia-uk-to-jointly-appoint-wikimedian-in-residence/

 

 

 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

[steve virgin]

 

Grow up you moron Andreas –

 

This talk was in September 2011 – I know I was there  -Roger had no
consultancy till this year (2012) so what was he “selling” oxygen, snake
oil?  Monmouthpedia did not exist it was many months way. Vouchers were
given for free by museums to encourage people to edit. 

 

His comments are simply descriptions of what happened – how would you
explain what happened in words of one syllable that prevent idiots like you
from spinning nonsense like this?

 

 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andreas
Kolbe
Sent: 20 September 2012 17:51
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

 

Here is a video of a presentation openly selling the SEO value of Wikipedia,
and Wikipedia front page appearances, in the name of Wikimedia UK:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO6ZrWJeaOM 

 

Quotes:

 

"Can we help put Bristol on the global map longer term, that's why we want
to talk to you today." [3.25]

 

"Roger's going to tell you all about Derby Museum, and what we did for
them." [3.40]

 

"We partnered Derby Museum. [...] We thought we'd pick on one small museum
and give it a lot of it,  national attention, even international attention,
into one museum, just to see what kind of effect we could have on a museum,
how we could affect its profile." [6.23]

 

"We made the front pages of the main Wikipedias [... English, French,
Polish, Russian ...] It's giving us more hits to Derby Museum's web page, so
it's actually going from our page, clicking through to their web page, it's
fulfilling our mission to educate and to share information around the world,
and it's raising the interest and status of the city." [12.22]

 

"It's a phenomenally cheap, and very, very imaginative way to absolutely
energize a city and put a city on the map." [17.41]

 

I am not comfortable with this sales pitch – especially when it is combined
with private consultancy contracts for those making it. It is not consistent
with the spirit and ideals of the project I signed up to more than six years
ago, and with the spirit and ideals of Wikipedia as communicated to the
public. 

 

And it is arguably an exploitation of volunteer editors for personal profit.
There is a telling passage in the latter part of the presentation about how
creating massive amounts of text in multiple languages would have cost a lot
of money, and how, just by advertising "prizes of some books and a £50 book
voucher" on Wikipedia, 100 articles were created for the project in the
space of one week, at no cost.

 

Today, even after the brouhaha all over the European press, another
Gibraltar DYK ran on the Wikipedia main page. 

 

Andreas

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

[steve virgin]

Seen this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/20/wikimedia_uk_scandal/

 

 

James

 

Trolls just like thrill of tearing things down they live for it

 

Steve

 

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Sent: 20 September 2012 16:20
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

 


On Sep 20, 2012 12:21 PM, "Andreas Kolbe"  wrote:
>
> Regardless of whether there is impropriety or not, it is hardly possible
to claim that the appearance of impropriety has been avoided.

For someone in the public eye, no matter how properly they behave, a person
with an axe to grind can always spin an appearance of impropriety.

And let's say Roger does resign: who's the next target on your list?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

[steve virgin]

If this starts into something please can you move this to private
conversation rather than a public one with hundreds of people copied in
please?

Thanks



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fae
Sent: 06 August 2012 16:31
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

> Yes, all Trustees have to maintain standards of probity.
>
> Gordo

Could you explain that comment?

Thanks,
Fae

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

[steve virgin]

 

Tom

 

It is beginning on Twitter as well

 

http://www.zuula.com/#eng=twitter-blog

&st=Ashley_van_Haeften&loc=&idx=0&mode=results&imgschlnk=&pglnk=&thmblnk=&th
mwd=&thmht=&imgwd=&imght=

 

...it is not a story that is going to go away alas. It needs dealing with in
a constructive way. 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
Dalton
Sent: 01 August 2012 02:06
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van
Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

 

On 1 August 2012 01:52, Andrew West < 
andrewcw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 31 July 2012 13:17, Thomas Dalton < 
thomas.dal...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> Predictably, the story is starting to spread:

>> 

>>  
http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?gl=uk&pz=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&q=

>> wikimedia+uk&ncl=drcm1dj39Jz4CfMo-tJUD6HkAFEPM&cf=all&scoring=d

> 

> And equally predictably:

> 

>  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_van_Haeften

 

There are some notability concerns there... I haven't tagged the article,
but I've left a note on the talk page.

 

I've also noticed the issue is now getting international coverage:

 

 

http://www.actualitte.com/acteurs-numeriques/le-president-de-wikimedia-uk-ba
nni-pour-violation-des-regles-de-wikipedia-35722.htm

 

I have no idea what that site is, and don't speak French, but it shows up on
Google News.

 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

[steve virgin]

Thomas

Good question - it was part of my very initial conversation with the CIPR
(Chartered Institute of Public Relations). That body has certified training
programs for PR professionals all across the United Kingdom in a number of
universities. They were desperately keen (after this initial post-May WMUK
AGM dialogue about how the hell Wikipedians and PR professionals could ever
work together) was over - to build a ethical use of Wikipedia training
program that could form part of their own university modules for PR
professionals. The initial discussion was that they then wanted to
eventually include such a course in a certificated university based
programme. Talk was of September 2013 or beyond.

I don't know who is right now responsible for this initiative at Board
level, as I've moved back to the land of the paid-for wage slave stuff, but
whoever it is could have a chat with Stevie Benton, who knows all the right
CIPR people and the idea could be reactivated? Either with a link to the
CIPR or in isolation and separately. 

A good place to start would be talking with the guys at the CIPR as they
would be able to put whichever Board member was responsible for course
accreditation in touch with the relevant University person. 


Hope helps

Steve




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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
Dalton
Sent: 13 June 2012 16:03
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

On 13 June 2012 07:46, Charles Matthews 
wrote:
> I have been asked to be project leader for Wikimedia UK's distance 
> learning project. Early days.
>
> [snip]

This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing to lead
it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it.

I have a question that really applies to the whole training initiative, not
just the VLE, but I'll ask it in this thread anyway.
Have you given any thought to external accreditation of the courses?
We have some good relationships with several universities and could approach
them about providing such accreditation (I'm not talking about a degree in
Wikipedia, just a certificate with the university's logo next to ours).

This is something that I've been thinking about for a while, and someone
else mentioned the same idea at the London meetup last weekend, so I figured
it is probably a good enough idea to be worth mentioning.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The BBC finally notices...

[steve virgin]

Tom

It was recorded some time BEFORE the press launch. So it would not have
benefited from the later briefing and the details that subsequent press
launch of the story did

Steve

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
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Sent: 01 June 2012 01:17
To: wikimediauk-l
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] The BBC finally notices...

Finally, some vague notice by the BBC of Monmouthpedia:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jlg4d

Whoever wrote the summary doesn't seem to quite understand, though...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia - press coverage so far

[steve virgin]

Update

As of middle of the afternoon on Saturday

Identifiable press coverage in 'major' 'important' news publications around
the world stood at 31 countries and 171 identified news stories

...there is likely to be more as a result of the work that happened in
Monmouth

...if anyone wishes to chip in with tweets or blog posts it is warmly
welcomed



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of steve virgin
Sent: 18 May 2012 11:16
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia - press coverage so far

All

With the London team busy preparing to go down to Monmouth for the official
launch of Monmouthpedia tomorrow, I thought it useful to scoop up the
coverage (to date) and share it with you all. I know it will all be put up
on an appropriate Wiki at some point, but it has been coming in thick and
fast in the last 24 hours.

To date, 10ish Friday morning - we have around 100 significant online news
stories from around the globe on the topic and on Twitter it is heading for
around 1000 Tweets

If any of you want to comment on these stories (you now have URL's to go and
do so). If any of you have Twitter accounts you can (hopefully) retweet some
of these. And if any of you want to push them out through any other channels
please feel free.

All these documents are is an attempt to scrape it all up and make it free,
open and easy to use

Help yourselves

Steve Virgin


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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly
Sent: 18 May 2012 11:00
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia - press coverage so far

On 18/05/12 09:22, Roger Bamkin wrote:
>  "Worlds First Wikipedia Town".


Is that the title of an article on the English Wikipedia?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interesting possibilty for WIkimedians?

[steve virgin]

Stevie

And I am close to people at UWE at Pro-Vice Chancellor level, lecturer level
etc

So I'd be happy to help anyone embarking on this.

Steve V.

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From: Stevie Benton [mailto:stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
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To: Jon Davies
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Subject: Re: Interesting possibilty for WIkimedians?

I note from the web page that one of the partners for this grants programme
is the UWE in Bristol. It's also in support of a BBC series that's in
development.

I think that there's definite potential for projects that some of our
volunteers are working on to get funding here, especially the partnership
that HJ Mitchell and Rock drum have developed with the Herbert Art Gallery &
Museum in Coventry.

I'm good friends with a couple of people at the HLF so I'll have a chat with
them and see if I can get a steer on the kind of things they are
particularly keen to fund.

Stevie

On 11/04/2012 17:16, Jon Davies wrote:
> The Heritage Lottery Fund has launched a new £1m small grants 
> programme for local history projects. Grants from 3 to 10K. All our 
> stories 
> http://www.hlf.org.uk/HowToApply/programmes/Pages/Allourstories.aspx
> Programme priorities
>
> You can request funding for the following types of activity to explore 
> and learn about heritage:
>
> Visits to places like historic buildings, landscapes, parks, burial 
> grounds, museums, archaeological sites or industrial heritage sites 
> like railways.
> Using collections like archives, libraries and museums, including 
> collections held by people in the community.
> Talking to people who know about heritage or holding workshops, talks 
> and sessions exploring people’s memories.
> Recording things like people’s memories or local wildlife; scanning 
> old photographs and documents; archaeological digs or surveying 
> historic buildings.
>
>


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CREWE session in May

[steve virgin]

 

Not strictly accurate - *we want to become* fully involved with this group.
But are not formally yet 

 

See earlier mail from me about 10 mins ago for full explanation

 

Steve

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Roger Bamkin
Sent: 29 March 2012 12:27
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CREWE session in May

 

I've been involved a bit with the CREWE page and supporting Steve Virgin
with this. We are VERY involved with this group. There have been several
meetings and we are intending to see if we can find a speaker for the AGM

Roger

On 29 March 2012 11:07, Thomas Morton  wrote:

Steve Virgin has been doing a lot of work in this area and should be
involved. 

 

I will reach out to him - it is on my list :)

 

May is full of AGM - so give those dates a wide berth!

 

In the middle! :)

 

This would likely have to be on a week day anyway (at least from what I have
gathered so far), which makes it a lot less likely to clash with anything
(although a lot less convenient for Wikipedians, possibly).

 

It may end up getting pushed later though, depends how fast things move.

 


As for venue, I'm sure our PR friends will be able to fund or provide
a venue; I suggest we are open to venues outside of London and this
could be a chance to show off our progress in Wales (or alternatively
Bristol) and discuss that as a good news partnership case study. Steve
has been working on some plans with that in mind, which I am sure he
will be happy to share with you on request, though they may not be
available for open publication yet.

 

Sounds interesting; I'd certainly be interested to hear Steve's thoughts (he
did express support I think, when I first mentioned this, but not heard
anything since - so I presumed to take an initiative... ;))

 

Personally I am not adverse to heading outside London. In my initial
discussions, though, the suggestion was the outside London attendance was
unlikely to be as good.

 


PS costs of travel or venue are not an issue for this one; doing it
well, sustainably and being seen to do the right thing are a
challenge.

 

Agreed; a slick session would be great.

 

Tom 


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] PR Industry - initial contact

[steve virgin]

Hi All

 

The Chartered Institute of Public Relations has offered Wikipedia training
slot(s) at their own 'Summer School' that it runs for the PR industry. CIPR
is a training-driven organisation. It also sanctions members that infringe
Best Practice rules in terms of PR. Its desire is to 'get hold of' the issue
of poor ethical editing of Wikipedia and work with us to slowly 'win our
trust' and 'educate its own members in best practice over time.' It is
talking to its members internally about 'Principles' and 'Good Practice
Standards' now and *may* have an initial discussion document ready for the
Wikimedia UK Board meeting on April 21st in Monmouth. If it does, and the
Board finds it acceptable, I have suggested to the PRCA/CIPR that they put
forward that document and their desire to work with us in a talk at the AGM
in front of all community members. Assuming we can get a consensus - this
would lead to opportunities for members to run the summer school training
programmes. But there is no commitment beyond the Science Museum AGM meeting
in May on our part.

 

The Public Relations Consultancy Association (a sister group) is also
interested in a similar arrangement. Though nothing specific has been
discussed, they recognise they have a *longer journey to make* as they have
most of the PR Agencies and their members on its books. This is where the
commercial interest/conflict of interest problem kicks in. They are seeking
ways to develop a training program in a way outlined above. And would work
with the CIPR as *a single entity* in the arrangement mentioned above. 

 

In addition, both bodies are keen on pulling together a single document that
scours and collects all Wikipedia editing policies, guides to Best Practice,
How to Do edit, What to Do, What Not to do etc (anything that could help
them begin to structure a guide that PR industry members could be 'taught'
formally by their industry body (CIPR). They also have a range of ideas on
what the PR industry thinks would work and would not. In meetings with both
bodies I stressed this is a slow process. It is about winning trust on both
sides. And it won't be sorted out quickly. 

 

However, a positive discussion has begun. And both bodies are looking for
ways in which they can encourage their own members to work with us in some
small way and, in so doing, learn more about what we do and how we do it.
They think better understanding and 'doing editing' will help the industry
begin to learn how to edit Wikipedia properly and what is Best Practice.
Some PRCA/CIPR members may be stepping forward to lend a hand in promoting
our work in Monmouthpedia, a project which I commend to you all and
recommend you read up on.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/MonmouthpediA (the project)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/MonmouthpediA/Public_Relations
(Key messages for the press)

 

http://monmouthpedia.wordpress.com/ (this latter is only a potential press
content site under development)

 

 

 

From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
Morton
Sent: 29 March 2012 10:34
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] CREWE session in May

 

Hey all,

 

Some of you may be aware of the CREWE Facebook group
 ; which is a group of PR
types interested in opening a dialogue with Wikipedia over the current
issues of COI and paid editing. There has been interest in having a session
for CREWE members to meet some Wikipedians, discuss the issues, and learn
about Wikipedia (and hopefully we could learn something too).

 

The idea is very early stage at the moment; guaging interest from both
communities. I sent an email to Daria last night to see if the WMUK office
could assist. 

 

But what sort of interest is there within the rest of the Chapter?

 

We are aiming for around May - probably a small group of representatives,
presentations from us and them, a Q&A/round table and probably a practical
session.

 

- Are there any dates in May to avoid?

 

- Anyone interested in attending/engaging?

 

- Venue ideas?

 

- Format ideas?

 

- Anything else I missed?

 

I'd love to have a broad spectrum of editors involved - perhaps 5 or so
(we're likely to have ~20 from CREWE) - so we can have a proper discussion.
I know even within the community there is disagreement on some of the
issues, and representing all of those (constructively) would be good.

 

Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Intellectual Property Office consultation

[steve virgin]

I would agree with Mike's suggestion - and would support a community-driven
Wiki sourced response too

Steve

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peel
Sent: 20 March 2012 14:40
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Intellectual Property Office consultation


On 20 Mar 2012, at 10:35, David Gerard wrote:

> Is it feasible for the Board to all say today "whatever Tom writes, 
> WMUK will endorse"?
> 
> (I'm sure there are ways for that not to pass constitutional muster, 
> I'm looking for ways it can ...)

Probably not in that sense, but if it were developed by the community
on-wiki then it should be fairly straight forward for the board to quickly
approve it for Jon to send in a copy officially from WMUK, or to point out
issues that need to be resolved before that could be done.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Indie story on HoC editing

[steve virgin]

 

When I did a round of Radio Interviews for regional radio stations on the
day of the Wikipedia blackout in January the same point was put to me in a
question.

 

The BBC was particularly bad. 

 

Steve V

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Symonds
Sent: 09 March 2012 13:52
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Indie story on HoC editing

 

Classic case, I'm afraid, of a journalist not quite doing his research. He
spoke to us a few weeks ago and we made it quite clear that we're seperate,
distinct organisations, and that we don't 'own' Wikipedia or anything of the
sort... We've corrected the article since!



Richard Symonds
Office & Development Manager
Wikimedia UK
+44 (0) 207 065 0992
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Registered in England and Wales, No: 6741827. Charity No:1144513 Office: 4th
Floor, Development House,  56-64 Leonard Street,
London EC2A 4LT.
Wikimedia UK is the local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate
Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit
organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for
its contents.


On 09/03/2012 13:48, Charles Matthews wrote: 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/who-are-the-commons-moles-chan
ging-wikipedia-entries-7545991.html 

 

Amusingly the hard copy version had WMUK owning WP, which would have been a
simplification in speaking to Sue G, but otherwise troublesome. But someone
(i.e. Jon Davies) told them otherwise.

 

Charles






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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal for plaque marking that Jordanhill station was subject of one-millionth Wikipedia article

[steve virgin]

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microgrants

 

Sounds like a great idea to me - apply here

 

Steve

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
WereSpielChequers
Sent: 19 December 2011 18:03
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal for plaque marking that Jordanhill
station was subject of one-millionth Wikipedia article

 

Can we ask the UK board to consider offering to fund this?

 

Then make sure we get a photo on Commons

 

WereSpielChequers

On 19 December 2011 15:20, Gordon Joly  wrote:

On 19/12/2011 14:48, Richard Symonds wrote: 

Articles are being deleted and created all the time, so even if it's not
/entirely/ accurate, it's as close to the 'one millionth' article status as
we're ever likely to get. At the very least, a plaque could get some
recognition in the local press.

Yes, I agree... the token millionth!

:-)



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fundraiser update - and SMS donations

[steve virgin]

Fae

I completely agree with you - well done Chris marvellous work

Steve

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fae
Sent: 30 November 2011 17:49
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fundraiser update - and SMS donations

I was fairly sceptical about the text giving when it was first
suggested, but I'm delighted that there are no hidden costs. Great
work Chris. Definitely worth the work on a banner, many of our mobile
addicted readers would think that sending a text is easier than
filling out the online form.

Cheers,
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[Wikimediauk-l] The National Archives´ museum tests Wikimedia QR codes

[steve virgin]

The National Archives´ museum tests Wikimedia QR codes
http://www.government-news.co.uk/national-archives/201109/the-national-archi
ves-museum-tests-wikimedia-qr-codes.asp?utm_source=twitterfeed
<http://www.government-news.co.uk/national-archives/201109/the-national-arch
ives-museum-tests-wikimedia-qr-codes.asp?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=t
witter> &utm_medium=twitter

 

 

 

 

From: steve virgin [mailto:st...@mediafocusuk.com] 
Sent: 16 September 2011 17:37
To: 'wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org'
Subject: RE: Bristol ‘Wikipedians’ taught to edit online encylopaedia

 

http://blog.arkive.org/2011/09/arkive-on-the-road-wiki-%E2%80%98wildlife-edi
tathon%E2%80%99-in-bristol-uk/

 

 
<http://blog.arkive.org/2011/09/arkive-on-the-road-wiki-%e2%80%98wildlife-ed
itathon%e2%80%99-in-bristol-uk/> ARKive on the Road: Wiki ‘Wildlife
editathon’ in Bristol, UK

The world’s 5th largest website, Wikipedia, wants to help improve the
world’s knowledge of  <http://www.arkive.org/endangered-species/> endangered
species, and they have to come to ARKive for help.

ARKive has teamed up with Wikimedia UK to hold a ‘
<http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Wildlife_Bristol> Wiki Wildlife
Editathon’ on Thursday 15 September in The Watershed Media Centre, Bristol,
to offer hints and tips on improving existing Wikipedia species texts and to
recruit more volunteer editors to help raise awareness of the world’s
endangered species.

The ‘editathon’ aims to encourage many new and existing Wikipedia editors to
take part in this special event to help improve Wikipedia’s text articles on
endangered plants and animals, such as the intriguing
<http://www.arkive.org/indri/indri-indri/> indri and the magnificent
<http://www.arkive.org/manta-ray/manta-birostris/> manta ray. During the
event, participants will use the  <http://www.arkive.org/> ARKive website
with its collection of over 13,800 multimedia species profiles to help with
researching and writing the endangered species texts. Wildscreen’s team of
ARKive Species Text Authors will also be on hand to give tips and advice to
participants on writing about the wonderful diversity of life on Earth.

 

 

From: steve virgin [mailto:st...@mediafocusuk.com] 
Sent: 16 September 2011 15:58
To: 'wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org'
Subject: RE: Bristol ‘Wikipedians’ taught to edit online encylopaedia

 

http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/

 

 

Life’s wild editing Wikipedia

Posted on
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/>
16/09/2011 by  <http://www.bristolwireless.net/author/woodsy/> woodsy

Yesterday Bristol Wireless volunteers Jim and your correspondent attended
the afternoon session of the two Wiki Wildlife Edit-a-thons (
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/wildlife-wiki-sessions-in-bristol/>
news passim) that were jointly organised by Wikimedia UK
<http://uk.wikimedia.org/>  and Wildscreen <http://www.wildscreen.org.uk/>
’s ARKive project <http://www.arkive.org/> , the Bristol-based digital
archive of the world’s endangered species, which has kindly donated its text
archive on endangered species to help improve and Wikipedia’s content.

The event, which was held at Bristol’s Watershed
<http://www.watershed.co.uk/> , started with introductions on the work of
Wildscreen and ARKive from Ellie and Helen, after which it was over to
Wikipedians Martin Poulter and Andy Mabbett <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/>
to introduce Wikipedia and its sister projects.

After any new editors had got themselves set up with a login, Andy then put
everyone through a few basic editing exercises, after which we were all let
loose on a species of our choice. Jim set about improving the Wikipedia
entry for the Black-necked Crane
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Black-necked_Crane> , while
your correspondent opted for the Gentoo penguin
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gentoo_penguin>  (these damn
zealous Linux types! Ed.)

In spite of the silence that would have been expected at such an event –
apart from the gentle tap on keyboards – there was plenty of noise as people
discovered that editing Wikipedia can indeed be fun.

All the time the action was being relayed via Twitter <https://twitter.com/>
with the #glamarkive hashtag <https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23glamarkive>
by the dedicated social media team of Steve Virgin
<https://virginonmedia.wordpress.com/>  and Christina Zaba
<https://twitter.com/#!/christinazaba>  at the back of the room.

A report of the event is also being carried by Bristol247
<http://www.bristol247.com/2011/09/16/bristol-wikipedians-taught-to-edit-onl
ine-encylopaedia-26319/> , which describes your ‘umble scribe as a ‘veteran
Wikipedian’ (can they say that? Ed.) and even quotes him, as follows:

“This is for everyone,” said vetera

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol 'Wikipedians' taught to edit online encylopaedia

[steve virgin]

http://blog.arkive.org/2011/09/arkive-on-the-road-wiki-%E2%80%98wildlife-edi
tathon%E2%80%99-in-bristol-uk/

 

 
<http://blog.arkive.org/2011/09/arkive-on-the-road-wiki-%e2%80%98wildlife-ed
itathon%e2%80%99-in-bristol-uk/> ARKive on the Road: Wiki 'Wildlife
editathon' in Bristol, UK

The world's 5th largest website, Wikipedia, wants to help improve the
world's knowledge of  <http://www.arkive.org/endangered-species/> endangered
species, and they have to come to ARKive for help.

ARKive has teamed up with Wikimedia UK to hold a '
<http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Wildlife_Bristol> Wiki Wildlife
Editathon' on Thursday 15 September in The Watershed Media Centre, Bristol,
to offer hints and tips on improving existing Wikipedia species texts and to
recruit more volunteer editors to help raise awareness of the world's
endangered species.

The 'editathon' aims to encourage many new and existing Wikipedia editors to
take part in this special event to help improve Wikipedia's text articles on
endangered plants and animals, such as the intriguing
<http://www.arkive.org/indri/indri-indri/> indri and the magnificent
<http://www.arkive.org/manta-ray/manta-birostris/> manta ray. During the
event, participants will use the  <http://www.arkive.org/> ARKive website
with its collection of over 13,800 multimedia species profiles to help with
researching and writing the endangered species texts. Wildscreen's team of
ARKive Species Text Authors will also be on hand to give tips and advice to
participants on writing about the wonderful diversity of life on Earth.

 

 

From: steve virgin [mailto:st...@mediafocusuk.com] 
Sent: 16 September 2011 15:58
To: 'wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org'
Subject: RE: Bristol 'Wikipedians' taught to edit online encylopaedia

 

http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/

 

 

Life's wild editing Wikipedia

Posted on
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/>
16/09/2011 by  <http://www.bristolwireless.net/author/woodsy/> woodsy

Yesterday Bristol Wireless volunteers Jim and your correspondent attended
the afternoon session of the two Wiki Wildlife Edit-a-thons (
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/wildlife-wiki-sessions-in-bristol/>
news passim) that were jointly organised by Wikimedia UK
<http://uk.wikimedia.org/>  and Wildscreen <http://www.wildscreen.org.uk/>
's ARKive project <http://www.arkive.org/> , the Bristol-based digital
archive of the world's endangered species, which has kindly donated its text
archive on endangered species to help improve and Wikipedia's content.

The event, which was held at Bristol's Watershed
<http://www.watershed.co.uk/> , started with introductions on the work of
Wildscreen and ARKive from Ellie and Helen, after which it was over to
Wikipedians Martin Poulter and Andy Mabbett <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/>
to introduce Wikipedia and its sister projects.

After any new editors had got themselves set up with a login, Andy then put
everyone through a few basic editing exercises, after which we were all let
loose on a species of our choice. Jim set about improving the Wikipedia
entry for the Black-necked Crane
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Black-necked_Crane> , while
your correspondent opted for the Gentoo penguin
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gentoo_penguin>  (these damn
zealous Linux types! Ed.)

In spite of the silence that would have been expected at such an event -
apart from the gentle tap on keyboards - there was plenty of noise as people
discovered that editing Wikipedia can indeed be fun.

All the time the action was being relayed via Twitter <https://twitter.com/>
with the #glamarkive hashtag <https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23glamarkive>
by the dedicated social media team of Steve Virgin
<https://virginonmedia.wordpress.com/>  and Christina Zaba
<https://twitter.com/#!/christinazaba>  at the back of the room.

A report of the event is also being carried by Bristol247
<http://www.bristol247.com/2011/09/16/bristol-wikipedians-taught-to-edit-onl
ine-encylopaedia-26319/> , which describes your 'umble scribe as a 'veteran
Wikipedian' (can they say that? Ed.) and even quotes him, as follows:

"This is for everyone," said veteran Wikipedian Steve Woods of Bristol
Wireless. "So many people use Wikipedia, it's only right that they learn how
to edit it too - so that they can put something back into it. There was lots
of enthusiasm and positive energy today, which was great to see."

All told, it was a most enjoyable event at which even seasoned 'veterans'
such as Andy and myself gained some knowledge.

Searching via the Twitter hashtag mentioned above, I have discovered that
the editors 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol 'Wikipedians' taught to edit online encylopaedia

[steve virgin]

http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/

 

 

Life's wild editing Wikipedia

Posted on
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/lifes-wild-editing-wikipedia/>
16/09/2011 by  <http://www.bristolwireless.net/author/woodsy/> woodsy

Yesterday Bristol Wireless volunteers Jim and your correspondent attended
the afternoon session of the two Wiki Wildlife Edit-a-thons (
<http://www.bristolwireless.net/2011/09/wildlife-wiki-sessions-in-bristol/>
news passim) that were jointly organised by Wikimedia UK
<http://uk.wikimedia.org/>  and Wildscreen <http://www.wildscreen.org.uk/>
's ARKive project <http://www.arkive.org/> , the Bristol-based digital
archive of the world's endangered species, which has kindly donated its text
archive on endangered species to help improve and Wikipedia's content.

The event, which was held at Bristol's Watershed
<http://www.watershed.co.uk/> , started with introductions on the work of
Wildscreen and ARKive from Ellie and Helen, after which it was over to
Wikipedians Martin Poulter and Andy Mabbett <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/>
to introduce Wikipedia and its sister projects.

After any new editors had got themselves set up with a login, Andy then put
everyone through a few basic editing exercises, after which we were all let
loose on a species of our choice. Jim set about improving the Wikipedia
entry for the Black-necked Crane
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Black-necked_Crane> , while
your correspondent opted for the Gentoo penguin
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gentoo_penguin>  (these damn
zealous Linux types! Ed.)

In spite of the silence that would have been expected at such an event -
apart from the gentle tap on keyboards - there was plenty of noise as people
discovered that editing Wikipedia can indeed be fun.

All the time the action was being relayed via Twitter <https://twitter.com/>
with the #glamarkive hashtag <https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23glamarkive>
by the dedicated social media team of Steve Virgin
<https://virginonmedia.wordpress.com/>  and Christina Zaba
<https://twitter.com/#!/christinazaba>  at the back of the room.

A report of the event is also being carried by Bristol247
<http://www.bristol247.com/2011/09/16/bristol-wikipedians-taught-to-edit-onl
ine-encylopaedia-26319/> , which describes your 'umble scribe as a 'veteran
Wikipedian' (can they say that? Ed.) and even quotes him, as follows:

"This is for everyone," said veteran Wikipedian Steve Woods of Bristol
Wireless. "So many people use Wikipedia, it's only right that they learn how
to edit it too - so that they can put something back into it. There was lots
of enthusiasm and positive energy today, which was great to see."

All told, it was a most enjoyable event at which even seasoned 'veterans'
such as Andy and myself gained some knowledge.

Searching via the Twitter hashtag mentioned above, I have discovered that
the editors for the evening session included BBC people, long-standing and
new Wikipedia editors, and a Wildlife Trust staff member. If you can add any
more to this very limited information, please feel free use the comments
form below

 

 

-Original Message-
From: steve virgin [mailto:st...@mediafocusuk.com] 
Sent: 16 September 2011 13:55
To: 'wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org'
Subject: Bristol 'Wikipedians' taught to edit online encylopaedia

 

A nice story about the amazing work of PigsontheWing's fantastic work for us
in Bristol...

 

 

http://www.bristol247.com/2011/09/16/bristol-wikipedians-taught-to-edit-onli
ne-encylopaedia-26319/

 

Wikipedia came to Bristol yesterday to host free workshops on how to edit
the worldwide online encyclopaedia - all in the name of saving endangered
wildlife.

 

The Wiki Wildlife Edit-a-thons were organised by Wikimedia UK in
collaboration with Wildscreen's ARKive project, the Bristol-based digital
archive of endangered species throughout the world.

 

Hosted at the Watershed, the editing sessions allowed Bristolians and beyond
to learn how to set up their own Wikipedia account and play in an online
"sandbox", before getting going on making improvements to main pages on the
encyclopaedia itself.

 

"This is for everyone," said veteran Wikipedian Steve Woods of Bristol
Wireless. "So many people use Wikipedia, it's only right that they learn how
to edit it too - so that they can put something back into it. There was lots
of enthusiasm and positive energy today, which was great to see."

 

For the past 10 weeks, "Wikimedia Outreach Ambassador" Andy Mabbett has been
using ARKive's text resources to update Wikipedia articles about endangered
species.

 

The workshops at Watershed focused on improving the 200 texts about wildlife
that ARKive 

[Wikimediauk-l] Bristol 'Wikipedians' taught to edit online encylopaedia

[steve virgin]

A nice story about the amazing work of PigsontheWing's fantastic work for us
in Bristol...


http://www.bristol247.com/2011/09/16/bristol-wikipedians-taught-to-edit-onli
ne-encylopaedia-26319/

Wikipedia came to Bristol yesterday to host free workshops on how to edit
the worldwide online encyclopaedia - all in the name of saving endangered
wildlife.

The Wiki Wildlife Edit-a-thons were organised by Wikimedia UK in
collaboration with Wildscreen's ARKive project, the Bristol-based digital
archive of endangered species throughout the world.

Hosted at the Watershed, the editing sessions allowed Bristolians and beyond
to learn how to set up their own Wikipedia account and play in an online
"sandbox", before getting going on making improvements to main pages on the
encyclopaedia itself.

"This is for everyone," said veteran Wikipedian Steve Woods of Bristol
Wireless. "So many people use Wikipedia, it's only right that they learn how
to edit it too - so that they can put something back into it. There was lots
of enthusiasm and positive energy today, which was great to see."

For the past 10 weeks, "Wikimedia Outreach Ambassador" Andy Mabbett has been
using ARKive's text resources to update Wikipedia articles about endangered
species.

The workshops at Watershed focused on improving the 200 texts about wildlife
that ARKive shared with Wikipedia as part of the project.

It was great to learn how to edit Wikipedia - really exciting," said
Wildscreen's Ellie Dart, who has been helping co-ordinate the project. "The
idea of our working together has been to help make Wikipedia's wildlife
articles more accurate, as well as encouraging more readers to come to
ARKive."

She added that no digital images have been used, only text, in the
collaboration. ARKive is famous for its beautiful pictures, but these are
strictly copyright.

Currently attracting 414 million visitors every month, Wikipedia, part of
the San Francisco-based Wikimedia Foundation, aspires to create "a world in
which every single human being can share in the sum of all human knowledge."

Volunteer writers and editors round the world co-create the resource, and
it's open to anyone to add to or improve it. There are around 100,000 such
volunteers, or "Wikipedians", in the UK.

"This is a wiki-friendly city," said Bristolian and enthusiastic Wikimedia
UK trustee and Board member Dr Martin Poulter. "We already have great
support from Bristol and Bristolians, and things like this Edit-a-thon are
an amazing opportunity for anyone with an interest they want to share with
the world to get involved.

"We're hoping to have many more free events like this in Bristol, and of
course all Bristolians can join in with the Wikipedian community online as
well."



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] two-letter UK domains: any use?

[steve virgin]

Agree with Tom and David - get them 

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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] two-letter UK domains: any use?

Hi all,

I've just noticed that Nominet have made two-letter UK domains available for
release:
http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/aboutdomainnames/reserved/releaselist/

This includes wp.co.uk/wp.org.uk/etc. - does anyone think these would be
useful for Wikipedia somehow?

(The deadline for applying is apparently in just under a week's time.)

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

[steve virgin]

"we can join the army, have sex, and smoke, if we are that way inclined"

George - a word of advice from a Greybeard like me - don't do all of that at
the same time

:-)



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Sent: 06 June 2011 17:19
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

Regarding not using full names until the age of 18, I think that's a
somewhat high age limit.
While my username is a pseudonym, I, at only 16, am an accredited Wikinewsie
and OTRS volunteer, and both of these (plus my personal website) expose my
real name. I think 16 year olds (and perhaps even younger) can be trusted to
know what they're doing. After all, we can join the army, have sex, and
smoke, if we are that way inclined.
We have no need to be overly protective, I think.
Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange

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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:53:58 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

Surely you needn't even force them to register for Commons at all?
Just make your own child-friendly submissions page, temporarily
hosting them then transferring them en masse to Commons on the
children's behalf.

--
Harry (User:Jarry1250)

On 6 June 2011 12:47, WereSpielChequers  wrote:
> I was recently involved in a children's photography competition
> through another organisation I'm involved in. I think that commons and
> "Wiki loves monuments" has a huge opportunity there, as most UK kids
> now seem to have access to digital cameras and the Internet. It would
> be great to launch a "Wiki loves monuments" competition to schools, or
> as a badge for scouts to earn.
>
> Providing the rules were clear about not including your friends in the
> photographs, or using your full name as your commons ID at least until
> you are 18, I think this could be useful, good for the kids and a
> great entry route to the community.
>
> WSC
>
> On 5 June 2011 19:19, Martin Poulter  wrote:
>> Chris, what I understand by schools outreach is getting the educational
>> benefits of WM projects into schools - via teachers. Hence still an adult
>> audience.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Chris Keating

>> wrote:
>>>

 Pitching this stuff is hard; kids at different ages see things
 differently, and kids in different areas age at different speeds.
>>>
>>> I think you've hit one of the main challenge of schools outreach on the
>>> head.
>>> We are starting to have a "recipe" for introducing adult organisations
to
>>> Wikipedia  which will basically work for charities, universities,
museums
>>> and the like - we would need several, for schools.
>>> Plus our adult outreach model is based on people coming to events of
their
>>> own free will, not because they've been told to! I imagine that a room
full
>>> of schoolkids is a much more difficult audience than what we're used to.
>>> I think this is part of the reason why we're focusing more on
universities
>>> and GLAMs at the moment. But clearly schools need to be part of the
>>> long-term plan...
>>> Chris
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>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events

[steve virgin]

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events


Hi Lewis

Answer is 'yes'

The next year's events are starting to be discussed now and input is warmly
welcome. 

Attached link is a place to keep an eye on as it will show events as they
begin to happen. Do get involved if you can, it would be great to meet up
with you at one.

Best

Steve



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To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Other Events

Hi,

I'm not a member of Wikimedia UK (because I can never find the money
when I think about joining), but I've noticed a lot of the events are
university things or museum stuff, I was wondering, are there any other
types of events, for example, I know the Dutch/German chapters run or
host the occasional Hack-a-Thon or meetups at other coding related
events. Do we do anything other than the GLAM or whatever it is?

-- Lewis Cawte
14 year old Wikimedia, LAMP server owner and follower of MediaWiki
development.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[steve virgin]

Tom - perhaps get the guys at the Imperial College Wikipedia Society to give
you hand, lend you a room or something else?

I can ping Vinesh and put you in touch?



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tom Morris
Sent: 20 April 2011 13:53
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the
membership basis

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:06, steve virgin  wrote:
> In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've
> had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
> recently:
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)
>
> A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of
the
> 20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:
>
> http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you'll notice they kindly publicised
our
> AGM on the front page of their website)
>
> We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM - I believe they are
> now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)
>
> I think we have a 'regional opportunity' to reach out and diversify our
> membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
> across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite
them
> to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common
in
> terms of mutual interest.
>

There are Girl Geek Dinner groups across Britain: London, Brighton,
Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Oxford,
Winchester, South Yorkshire, Plymouth, Dorset and Birmingham.

I've added that list to the Institutional outreach page:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institutional_outreach

I've also posted on Twitter saying that WMUK may be interested in
doing events/outreach with the London GGD community.

Any ideas where we can run Wikimedia Academy events in London? I was
talking to someone on IRC who suggested collaborating with coworking
spaces. Alternatively, it would be very useful if, especially in
London, there were a few standard places we could use to run
outreach-focussed Wikimedia Academy/editathon type events. Any ideas?

-- 
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<http://tommorris.org/>

Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it.
If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikimedia UK to Hire Full-Time Staff"

[steve virgin]

Well done Martin a great article



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Sent: 20 April 2011 13:05
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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikimedia UK to Hire Full-Time Staff"

Some very positive coverage on technology blog TheNextWeb (a competitor 
to TechCrunch), which gives a quick overview of what Wikimedia UK has 
done and is planning to do:
http://thenextweb.com/uk/2011/04/20/wikimedia-uk-hires-full-time-staff-aims-
to-increase-content-quality-on-wikipedia/

If you want to encourage coverage like this, then retweet, link and 
recommend away.

Thanks Steve Virgin for putting the author in touch with me.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[steve virgin]

In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've
had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
recently:

 

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)

 

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)

 

 

A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of the
20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:

 

http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you'll notice they kindly publicised our
AGM on the front page of their website)

 

We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM - I believe they are
now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)

 

I think we have a 'regional opportunity' to reach out and diversify our
membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite them
to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common in
terms of mutual interest.

 

 

PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!!

 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Keating
Sent: 20 April 2011 12:10
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

 


P.S. Diversity of the board?

 

 There was a bit of a discussion on Twitter on Saturday about the fact that
all the candidates were white middle-aged men.* The evidence suggests that
most Wikimedians are men (70/30ish?). I had a look at the WMUK membership
list to identify gender on the basis of first names and got the impression
that the bias in our membership is a bit more skewed than that (85/15ish). 

 

My view is that this is something we need to address - and in particular we
need to make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

Hopefully the work the Foundation is doing in this area will be helpful.
Hopefully also the work we will do in the coming year will help us engage
with a more diverse group of people. It's noticeable that the people we
worked with at the CRUK workshop were mainly female and the gender balance
at the GLAM-WIKI conference was fairly even if you ignored the Wikimedians. 

 

More views would I'm sure be welcome...

 

Chris 

 

*NB I am not middle-aged, but accept the overall point

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol crane

[steve virgin]

 

It might be William Avery?

 

He’ll be best found as a contributor to the Bristol Project

 

 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Deryck Chan
Sent: 19 April 2011 14:25
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol crane

 

At the AGM on Saturday someone (William?) told me the crane in the picture 
(attached) is the only remaining one of its kind. What's it called again, and 
has it got an article?

 

Deryck

 

(Moderators: please let this through, it's impossible to get a picture of a 
crane beneath 40kB! I've tried my best to bring it down from 3MB to 60kB.)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

[steve virgin]

Vinesh

What marvellous news.

Steve




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Vinesh
Sent: 09 March 2011 14:16
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org; michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

Dear all,

I'm not sure who gets this e-mail but I'd just like to say a few things to
as many Wikipedians as possible.

Imperial College Union has approved Wikipedians at Imperial College to be
the first official student UK Wikipedia society.
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedians_at_Imperial_College

What we need now is help, which we have already had but need more. We are
holding an event next week on St. Patrick's day Thursday 17th March but have
not received an answer to our microgrant application
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Microgrants/Applications; the funding is needed
for posters and for prizes on our Trivia Night. We would also like to have a
budget so that we can plan our activities and events longer term. As we do
not charge a membership fee we receive no funding from Imperial College
Union.


We would also love your help and attendance at our London Wikipedia Academy
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/London_Wikipedia_Academy. Please feel free to
post on the discussion page.

We want to run Campus Ambassador and GLAM ambassador programs too; I look
forward to discussing this and much more with others this Sunday at the
London Meetup http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/43. 

Thanks for all the help we have gotten so far, and I hope we can get much
more!

Kind Regards,

Vinesh Patel
President, Wikipedians at Imperial College


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[wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dalton
[thomas.dal...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2011 21:42
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

First of all, I'd like to say how thrilled I am to see this discussion
happening. A lack of interest in the running of the chapter from
members has been one of my biggest concerns, so it is great to see
members discussing how the chapter is doing and holding the board the
account.

That, in fact, is our greatest defence against people taking over the
chapter and taking all the money. I'd have to look a few things up to
be sure, but what Tom describes could be possible. It certainly won't
be once we are a registered charity, since the necessary
constitutional change would require Charity Commission approval, which
they would never give. Until then, it might be possible to amend the
constitution like that. It would require 67% support, though, which I
think is unlikely to happen. Our contractual obligations to the WMF
provide some protection too. They oblige us to keep to the Wikimedia
mission, so we would need to revoke them before we could distributed
money to members.

Regarding the proportion of our expenditure that goes on admin, I
think the current layout of the budget is a little misleading. The
Office Manager will probably do quite a lot of programmes work, at
least for the first year or so while there aren't many other staff
members. The Chapter Manager will also do a lot of programmes work and
the Comms person is probably entirely programmes, really.

We indend to monitor how much time staff spend on different things.
Our report at the end of the year will divide their salaries, etc.,
between the different things that they worked on, so we'll have an
accurate ratio of admin to programmes.

As for investing our reserves, we are investigating it. I think
certificates of deposit are probably the way to go. In the current
market, you won't get anywhere near 4% unless you are willing to lock
up the money for several years. For the 6 month to 1 year bonds that
we would be interested in, the rates are about 1-2%. See here for some
examples:

http://www.lloydstsb.com/rates_and_charges/savings/term_deposits.asp

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Could you lead Wikimedia UK to success?

[steve virgin]

Mike

What about Roger writing a brief blog post & we slip it quickly onto the
facebook site as well?

Steve

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Sent: 24 January 2011 22:13
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Could you lead Wikimedia UK to success?

Hi Roger,

I look forward to seeing you at the meeting.

With the Derby museums press release: there was no board decision to not
send this out. I think it just got overlooked in the general madness and
busy-ness surrounding the 10th birthday. I'm following up with Gemma about
this, and it will hopefully go out in the near future. Sorry about that.

Thanks,
Mike

On 23 Jan 2011, at 10:45, Roger Bamkin wrote:

> Andrew, yes I am interested and intend to be there.
>  
> I must mention the press release about Derby Museum which as you know
consumed a bit of effort. Derby Museums released it locally but as far as I
can see it was never released by Wikimedia. Was this a board decision?
>  
> best regards
> Roger
> 01332 702993
> 
> On 21 January 2011 00:24, Andrew Turvey 
wrote:
> From our blog, http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/:
> 
> Could you lead Wikimedia UK to success?
> 
> Next year is set to be another big year of growth for Wikimedia UK: we
> have just raised over £500,000 in the Wikimedia Annual Fundraiser.
> Most of this money will support the technical side of Wikimedia
> through donations to the Foundation and the Toolserver. However, we
> also plan to use the funds to recruit four more members of staff.
> These staff will mean we can scale up our activities, enable more
> activity by volunteers and professionalise the chapter. Our own
> developer, events organiser, a full time office manager and a chapter
> manager pulling everything together will no doubt transform Wikimedia
> UK.
> 
> However, a key factor in our success will still be the board, which
> will continue to lead the chapter and be made up of unpaid volunteers.
> It will continue to be elected by our members, ordinary Wikimedians
> who support our mission and want to make Wikipedia and free knowledge
> even more successful.
> 
> Can you help lead the chapter to success in 2011 by standing for
> election as a board member? If so, you’re warmly invited to join us on
> Saturday 5th February from 5pm where you can find out more about what
> is involved in being a board member and have an opportunity to ask any
> questions and meet other interested people.
> 
> This “board interest day” will take place in central London (venue to
> be confirmed). If you are interested please drop me a line to chair @
> wikimedia.org.uk to reserve your place. You can also give me a ring on
> 07403 216 991 if you would like to discuss further.
> 
> Look forward to hearing from you!
> 
> Andrew Turvey
> Chair, Wikimedia UK
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ideas for local engagement

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Roger

 

We have approached the Bristol Museum (about a year ago) in an attempt to
get them involved in Britain Loves Wikipedia. Although there was goodwill
and interest, there was a lack of commitment at the top and this led nowhere
back then. All of the museums FIVE of them, are owned by the City Council.
They sponsored Jimmy Wales' talk in Bristol & gave us a live webcast of the
event for free. Therefore, I think the 'ice' at the top of the Council
organisation is beginning to 'thaw' & that the Wikimedia team down here in
Bristol has to go back in & speak to the people behind the museum. This is
likely to be a direct outcome of Jimmy's visit.

 

There is added impetus as well. There is a new museum being built in Bristol
that may be opening later this year (don't know for sure). If I am right the
council/museum organisers are going to be looking at ways to promote the new
collection so the next couple of months might be perfect to go back in.

 

Therefore, I for one, am very interested in what you are doing in Derby.
Please keep me posted. Maybe we can share the lessons if we get the five
Bristol Museums back onside

 

Steve

 

 

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Sent: 20 January 2011 19:27
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ideas for local engagement

 

Martin,
Looks good. (Flattered to see you included the bit about the increased
traffic on A History of the World in 100 Objects.) and the large increase in
traffic. As you note the museums have the suff but we have the 400,000,000
visitors per month. Mike Peel took a photo at the BM amnd 3.8 million people
saw it.

I'm keen to see the UK initiatives to be seen as competing and co-operative.
Is there opportunity to link up Bristol Museum with the project announced in
Derby? I have suggested elsewhere that we have people learning from the
collaboration day that happens before them and carrying the good points to
the next. I have been after another museum outside London and yours seem
close to being approached.

I'm sad I didnt make it to Bristol but I will be there for the wikimedia
meeting later this year

cheers
Roger 
aka Victuallers

Link here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Derby
Press release
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/First_GLAMWIKI_outside_Capital



On 20 January 2011 16:03, Martin Poulter  wrote:

Hi all,
   we had a small meetup in Bristol after Jimmy's talk, where we
discussed potential partners such as museums, libraries and societies
and how we can make use of meetings with them. I've written up some
ideas here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bristol/Local_outrea
ch

Clearly some fantastic work is already going on with the GLAM sector
nationally, and locally Steve Virgin has been up to an enormous amount
of local networking that this would build on. It would be great to get
together a list of contacts and where we are with them. The above page
could be used to list partners we're engaging with, and perhaps there
should be a private page somewhere for sharing contact names, phone
numbers and finding dates when we and the contacts are available.

It may seem odd to put it in Wikiproject Bristol, and it's not ideal,
but frankly I'm a bit confused by all the different places where
WP/WM outreach material is supposed to go, and most importantly there
are local Wikipedians who are crucial to the success of this effort, who
can't be assumed to be watching the other sites (until we get interwiki
watchlists).

Any input welcome,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol - Jimmy Wales Talk for 10th Birthday

[steve virgin]

Thanks martin

:-)



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Martin
Poulter
Sent: 20 December 2010 13:37
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Bristol - Jimmy Wales Talk for 10th Birthday

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, steve virgin wrote:

> Below is a map of where the event is being held

I think you meant to post this link:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Victoria+Rooms
,+University+of+Bristol,+Bristol&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=16.575836,39.5
06836&ie=UTF8&hq=University+Of+Bristol&hnear=University+Of+Bristol,+Victoria
+Rooms,+Queens+Rd,+Clifton,+Bristol,+Avon+BS8+1SA,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.4569
48,-2.608395&spn=0.008517,0.01929&z=16

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[Wikimediauk-l] Bristol - Jimmy Wales Talk for 10th Birthday

[steve virgin]

Here's a call to all Wikimedia UK members interested in attending Jimmy
Wales's talk on the 10th Birthday of Wikipedia in Bristol on January 13th.
12-1pm

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/pace/public-lectures/wikipedia10/

Although the event is advertised as fully booked there are some tickets just
for Wikimedia UK members still available. Though it is a limited number so
first come first served.

Anyone interested needs to contact me on steve.vir...@wikimedia.org.uk or
via this email address: st...@mediafocusuk.com

The event is free...just need to get yourself there...

Below is a map of where the event is being held
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

You'll need train tickets from London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/

OR a coach to town - the bus station is about 10 mins walk from the venue

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/

if you cannot make it the Board are busy trying to finalise arrangements for
the event to be Live Streamed over the Internet...sorry won't know the URL
before this Wednesday at the earliest

Spread the word & get involved in some way...

Happy Christmas & Prosperous New Year

Steve




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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peel
Sent: 20 December 2010 12:22
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] [PRESS] Jimmy Wales: 'It's not about how many
pages. It's about how good they are'

"The Monday Interview: As Wikipedia celebrates 10 years as an unrivalled
source of knowledge, its founder talks to Ian Burrell":

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/jimmy-wales-its-not-about-
how-many-pages-its-about-how-good-they-are-2164840.html

Mike


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Campus Ambassador Program to the United Kingdom

[steve virgin]

Rock Drum

 

Discussions are only just beginning. We hope that Alex Stinson is going to
prove invaluable in introducing the programme here during the course of
2011. So if you have a suggestion or a contact for a University that we
could introduce Alex to, let us know on this list. We have some preliminary
ideas as to possible universities based on existing contacts we have had,
but the list is open to additions, changes and amendments.  So in answer to
your question 'No, not yet.'  

 

Best

Steve

 

 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rock drum
Sent: 25 November 2010 19:27
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Campus Ambassador Program to the
United Kingdom

 

Hi Alex,
Just out of interest, have any UK universities been signed up for the
program yet?
 
Thanks,
Rock drum
 

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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:31:07 -0500
From: stins...@dukes.jmu.edu
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Campus Ambassador Program to the United
Kingdom

Hello Wikimedia UK, 

 

I am Alex Stinson (User:Sadads), an American student from James Madison
University (JMU) and a Wikipedia Campus Ambassador
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ambassadors). I am also a member of
the Wikipedia Ambassador Steering Committee and soon will be a Wikipedia
Campus Ambassador Trainer. I will be studying abroad in Oxford during the
Spring, and look forward to participating in Wikimedia UK activities. The
organization of Wikipedians in the United States (or at least the greater DC
Area) has been rather slow, so I look forward to bringing back lessons I
learn from you to Wikimedia DC.

 

I recently approached the board of Wikimedia UK and asked if they would be
interested in starting an Ambassador program in the UK. Realizing that their
will need to be significant effort on the part of myself and volunteers in
Britain, they have given me the go ahead to begin developing the
infrastructure to create an Ambassador program in the UK and begin engaging
universities. The Steering Committee of the Ambassador program decided very
early that it was best that the ambassador program to be run in a regional
approach so that the program could become international and sustainable, I
hope the UK will become our first extra-US Ambassador region. 

 

The Campus Ambassador Program in the United States has largely been focused
on the Public Policy Initiative and supporting writing projects and
assignments in university classes. However, even in this first semester of
the program, we have already seen the creation of two student organizations
as well as course work in other disciplines (such as literature and
chemistry). I also have been working closely with the library at JMU to
begin discussion on how we think of Wikipedia in Academia through workshops
on the topic.

 

I realize the approach to academic curriculum may be hard to translate to
the UK university system. However, it is activities such as student
organizations and the workshops in addition to the article writing
assignments, which I would like to bring to the United Kingdom. Like GLAM
cooperations, the Wikipedia Ambassador program has the potential to help a
very large community of academics become more engaged with Wikipedia world
wide. 

 

I have yet to determine the exact schedule of my studies and activities at
Oxford. However, while in the UK I plan to, at the very least, find and
engage members of Wikimedia UK to begin a regional Ambassador program
through Ambassador training and discussions at Wikimedia UK events as well
as through the creation of a student organization at Oxford. If anyone would
be interested in supporting such an Ambassador program, especially if you
are engaged in a University campus, please send me an e-mail and we can
begin figuring out how you can help. This program can only be successful if
local Wikipedians engage and provide creative approaches to the university
environment.

 

 

Alex Stinson 

User:Sadads

Wikipedia Campus Ambassador James Madison University

Wikipedia Ambassador Steering Committee Member

 


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning

[steve virgin]

I'd support 'edit parties' wherever and whenever they were held as part of
celebrate 10th anniversary event

I'll certainly see if we can get one off the ground around the Bristol area 

Steve


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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peel
Sent: 30 August 2010 18:29
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [WikiX-l] Wiki 10th planning


On 14 Aug 2010, at 13:44, Gordon Joly wrote:

> On 14/08/2010 09:55, Michael Peel wrote:
>> See below. This is a topic that I haven't heard much talk about in the UK
yet - do we want to do something for Wikipedia's 10th birthday in the UK?
>> 
> Like the "edit party" suggestion!
> 
> Gordo

Thanks Gordo for the reply - does anyone else like this idea? Would anyone
be interested in helping organise something?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Steve Virgin]

Still a very smart idea though and definitely one worth keeping on the back 
burner for a time when we can use it

Perhaps for a future discussion for the membership with the Wikimedia UK 
Board Mark 2 later this year?



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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:51 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:52 PM, James Hardy  wrote:
>
>> I can not
>> really imagine any tangible benefits that WMUK can provide. After all, 
>> our
>> purpose is to make knowledge free, it would seem counter-intuitive to 
>> close
>> anything off to be members-only.
>
> One that occurs to me is that perhaps WMUK could negotiate with GLAMs
> that WMUK members get a preferential rate to enter exhibitions and the
> like.
>
> However, I think that would have to be some way off in the future, I
> don't get the impression that WMUK is big enough or has the spare man
> hours to try and get that off the ground at the moment. But maybe one
> day...
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"- Telegraph

[Steve Virgin]

Another thought

Is the WMFoundation putting out a press release saying 'thanks' to the 
thousands of donors who have helped it to hit its global fund raising 
targets?

If it isn't, shouldn't we be doing it?



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From: "Charles Matthews" 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:09 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"-Telegraph> 
Thomas Dalton wrote:
>> Check this out: http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6032750
>>
>> It's about social media and education, which is an interesting topic
>> in itself, but most importantly it contains this line:
>>
>> "Wikis are web pages that can be easily edited, the most famous of
>> which is Wikipedia, the world's largest encyclopedia."
>>
>> A journalist knows the difference between "wiki" and "Wikipedia" - joy
>> of joys! (The downside is that it suggests schools improve/create an
>> article about their school as an example, which is something of a
>> COI...)
>>
> The next para is pretty interesting:
>
> "When Tom Rae took over as the head of Tynecastle High School in
> Edinburgh, he noticed the school's Wikipedia entry was outdated and
> short on hard facts. As he was not sure how to update it, he set his
> senior students the task of doing it. In just under a week, a group of
> more than 10 students had researched and rewritten it. They became the
> first Tynecastle students to be published in Wikipedia. How empowering
> is that?"
>
> The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is
> that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous
> area to explore from a teachers' point of view: accounts for minors
> should not give personal details, so a "role account" for say,
> Tynecastle High School, looks more appropriate. But there are
> administrative reefs also, namely the deprecation of role accounts and
> shared passwords in general. Something can be done in practical terms by
> stating that the project has a fixed term, will be retired, and will
> have its password changed by a school staff member.
>
> Charles
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] End of the fundraiser

[Steve Virgin]

Thomas

You led by example - I for one am very grateful to you and all your efforts 
and I am sure many others are too

Steve

- Original Message - 
From: "David Gerard" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] End of the fundraiser


> 2010/1/8 Thomas Dalton :
>
>> The fundraiser has now finished, so I thought I would let people know
>> how it went: Wikimedia UK raised a total of just over £85,000 (we may
>> have a little more from cheques and bank transfers that have yet to
>> arrive and/or be processed, but that won't be more than a few grand
>> tops). I consider that a complete success and am very pleased about
>> how our first ever fundraiser went.
>
>
> :-O
>
> Indeed. Well done!
>
>
> - d.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] End of the fundraiser

[Steve Virgin]

Magnificent work Thomas and all others who lent a hand in this marvellous 
piece of news

Steve

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From: "Thomas Dalton" 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:46 PM
To: 
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] End of the fundraiser

> The fundraiser has now finished, so I thought I would let people know
> how it went: Wikimedia UK raised a total of just over £85,000 (we may
> have a little more from cheques and bank transfers that have yet to
> arrive and/or be processed, but that won't be more than a few grand
> tops). I consider that a complete success and am very pleased about
> how our first ever fundraiser went. There were plenty of problems, as
> one would expect, but they didn't get in the way of raising lots of
> money. Most donations are being split with the Foundation, so we can
> expect about £43,000 of unrestricted funds for Wikimedia UK to spend.
> What happens with the WMF's share has yet to be determined. I intend
> to write a full report on the fundraiser over the next few days (I aim
> to have to finished in time to submit it to the board meeting on
> Tuesday), that report will be made available on the chapter wiki. Just
> to remind people - there is a page on the wiki for discussion of our
> budget for this year, please do contribute there with thoughts about
> how we should spend this money:
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Budget
>
> My thanks to everyone that donated and to everyone that helped me run
> the fundraiser!
>
> Thomas Dalton
> Head of Fundraising, Wikimedia UK
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told toavoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

[Steve Virgin]

I could not agree more.

:-)


--
From: "Charles Matthews" 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:57 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told toavoidWikipedia"     
-Telegraph> Steve Virgin wrote:
>>
>> As a Board member I personally believe we should be attempting to
>> promote our Schools Project here and that should sit at the heart of
>> any release. Feel free to wrap any or all your very valid points below
>> inside and around the idea/goal of the project, should you agree with me.
>>
>> To refresh: the Board has been looking for opportunities to 'work with
>> teachers' or 'trainers' or 'academics' to help them see the advantages
>> of Wikipedia in terms of use with students. This could be in terms of
>> collaborative research projects that can put these skills into
>> practice. In could be in terms of helping teachers or trainers build
>> additional skills in the groups they train. The bigger objective is to
>> lead to new volunteers for Wikpedia and new content.
> I suggested writing a concise guide for teachers and posting it on the
> WMUK site for two reasons, firstly because the point had been raised on
> this list in December, and secondly because I know how to get that
> written, having done a book chapter on this in 2007. If there is a need
> to integrate with other work, by all means put forward a way to fit it
> all together. I'm sure it is right to 'migrate' the message from a
> rebuttal of what journalists have to say, to our own ground. I see no
> inconsistency here, in fact, just a discussion of ways and means.
>
> Charles
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph

[Steve Virgin]

Guys

As a Board member I personally believe we should be attempting to promote 
our Schools Project here and that should sit at the heart of any release. 
Feel free to wrap any or all your very valid points below inside and around 
the idea/goal of the project, should you agree with me.

To refresh: the Board has been looking for opportunities to 'work with 
teachers' or 'trainers' or 'academics' to help them see the advantages of 
Wikipedia in terms of use with students. This could be in terms of 
collaborative research projects that can put these skills into practice. In 
could be in terms of helping teachers or trainers build additional skills in 
the groups they train. The bigger objective is to lead to new volunteers for 
Wikpedia and new content.

This is the real 'prize' here.  I am working on something along these lines 
in Bristol with the Bristol Old Vic Theatre ready to work closely with 
schools and colleges in the area and probably up for handing over lots of 
content (when copyright free licences can be sorted out correctly). I am 
also working on trying to get into some local schools to get the Schools 
project outlined above rolling - I have one school very interested and hope 
to have a date for a session in the not too distant future.

So my point is... don't bury this message in this more peripheral point - 
link it back to what I describe below. There is more substance to a press 
statement if we are not only making a statement about something but ALSO 
trying to actively do something about it as well.  We must not simply sound 
off on issues 'as and when' they pop up as we would not have people 
listening to us when it really counts and we need the press to publish it.

Happy to help 'team up' with anyone and everyone in drafting anything - just 
mail me

Best to al

Steve

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM
To: ; 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia"
-Telegraph> Perhaps a quick note about Special:Cite?
>
> ...said... ==> ...stated..?
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Michael Peel wrote:
>> Having said that, I've just looked at the original document:
>>
>> http://www.ofqual.gov.uk/files/2009-12-24-plagiarism-students.pdf
>>
>> It actually does a pretty good job at giving advice on how to use
>> Wikipedia. It's just the Telegraph that chose the choice quote and
>> ignored the advice. ;-)
>>
>> It even mentions the School's Wikipedia.
>>
> OK, I'm trying now to draft a press release by shoehorning it into the
> "six sentence" format. This seems to work well enough as a way of seeing
> what the "story" is.
>
> Draft:
>
> School students spend an increasing proportion of their free time
> online, and will not be deterred from spending study time on the Web
> also. Now Ofqual, the UK's official examination regulation body, has
> endorsed a guide "Using Sources" that is designed to help students using
> the Web avoid the hazards, such as plagiarism and unreliable
> information, by making proper use of sites such as Wikipedia, which
> produces schools-wikipedia.org and DVD selections especially for this
> educational sector.
>
> Wikimedia UK, the national organization representing the Wikipedia
> reference site and other online resources, has responded by producing a
> concise online document aimed at secondary school teachers. Mike Peel,
> chair of WMUK, said "For all the adverse media comment and robust
> debate, it is really important that students using Wikipedia understand
> the correct way to work with this resource, and teachers can help them
> to a more informed and critical way of using a site that they will all
> know about and read anyway."
>
> The new guide is based on understanding how to look over a Wikipedia
> page, examine warning notices and references, and follow up clues in the
> history and discussion of a particular article. It is free content,
> released under the GFDL license used for Wikipedia.
>
> /draft
>
> This isn't perfect, clearly. But is this on-message? Would this be what
> WMUK wanted to say at this time? (NB that Ofqual did not write the guide
> itself, but endorses what plagiarismadvice.org wrote.)
>
> Charles
>
>
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