Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - Wikimania 2014 The UK team

2011-07-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
If the first step is working out a rough budget. Step zero is
establishing whether we have a team of people wanting to make this
happen, then logically step minus one is creating a signup page
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_bid for all those enthusiasts
to sign up at.

So having done step minus one I shall pause and wait for the rush.

WSC

On 27 July 2011 18:42, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 July 2011 13:11, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I'm 100% sure that the chapter would part-fund a UK wikimania - but it would 
 need to be in conjunction with external sponsors. The money would come from 
 the appropriate year's budget, though, not the current one (which covers 
 spending between 1 Feb 2011 and end Jan 2012). Funding to support the 
 creation of the bid over the next 6 months (e.g. travel to meet potential 
 sponsors, scout out venues, etc.) would fall under the current budget, if 
 this would be of use.

 I disagree. Something as big as Wikimania should be saved up for. The
 first step in putting together a bid would be working out a rough
 budget, including costs during the bidding process. You can then work
 out how much of that it is reasonable to pay out of general chapter
 funds and how much we need to fundraise specifically for (most likely
 through corporate sponsorship, although there are a few other
 options). The bit we're going to pay for out of chapter funds can then
 be saved up for over several financial years. The current underspend
 could be re-allocated to be the first installment if the board wished
 to do that.

 The one big problem with this is what happens if we have an
 unsuccessful bid. I think we would need to take steps to ensure that
 doesn't happen. At the very least, we can talk to other European
 chapters and make sure there are no competing European bids by getting
 them to support our bid (that could be anything from a letter of
 support to a pledge to contribute £X). Less formally, we can start
 letting people know of our intention to bid (maybe even handing out
 leaflets and badges and things at Wikimania 2012) and try to get
 people to view 2014 as our year even before the bidding starts.

 I know it's not exactly in the spirit of the thing to go out of our
 way to avoid any real competition in the bidding process, but with
 such a short timescale from the winning bid being announced to the
 conference starting, we don't have much choice if we want a large
 amount of corporate funding.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] hosting it in the UK - Wikimania 2014 The UK team

2011-07-27 Thread Lewis Cawte
On 27/07/11 20:37, WereSpielChequers wrote:
 If the first step is working out a rough budget. Step zero is
 establishing whether we have a team of people wanting to make this
 happen, then logically step minus one is creating a signup page
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_bid for all those enthusiasts
 to sign up at.

 So having done step minus one I shall pause and wait for the rush.

 WSC
I'd be interested in helping plan this, I'm currently 14 now, so I can't
take a lead role (because travel and school are a big problem for me
being able to go around and check stuff out), but I'd like to play a
fair sized part, for the 2014 Wikimania, I'll be 17.

Not sure what in particular I'd like to help with, just saying, I'd be
happy to help, maybe shadow tech support on the day(s) as well, I feel
quite knowledgeable, but learning experiences are a plus.

Just throwing that out there.

-- Lewis Cawte

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