Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Language Policy

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Symonds
I think that these are sensible ideas from Robin. The draft policy is a bit
complex, and may not all be doable for an organisation of our size, but
language diversity is a laudable goal, and something we should work towards.

Speaking from a purely financial point of view, it's a wonderful thing to
put in our FDC reports and our emails to donors. It will also be much
easier to support cy-wp if there's a basic smattering of ideas in Welsh -
even if it's just the Activity Plan and Annual Report, it gives our Welsh
speakers a good idea of what's happening.

I'll talk to Daria about updating the advert, but it might be a bit late
now - big GLAMs usually require signoff on job descriptions, and the job,
although funded by us, isn't being advertised by us. We'll do what we can,
though!

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On 24 April 2013 15:18, geni  wrote:

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>
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> On 24 April 2013 13:43, i...@cymruwales.com  wrote:
>
>> **
>>  Hi all
>>
>>  Everyone so far has agreed that the ability to Speak Gaelic would be
>> desirable (rather than undesirable !) Can we therefore amend the advert to
>> this effect?
>>
>
> Nope. The ability to read abbreviated medieval latin (I was in Lincoln the
> other day) would be desirable however its not going to be put into the
> advert.
>
>
>
>
>>  Secondly, I've created a draft Welsh Language Policy for your comments
>> here:
>>
>>  https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000/Welsh_Language_Policy
>>
>>  Let's be positive about this please. If you have negative feelings
>> towards minority languages, for any reasons, can I suggest you swallow
>> hard, count to ten and drink up your glass of milk.
>>
>
> Err provides way to much of an official role for english (for example if
> we were to produce leaflets for the National Eisteddfod of Wales it would
> be unreasonable to require that be translated into english) and
> discriminates against Poles.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Language Policy

2013-04-24 Thread geni
On 24 April 2013 13:43, i...@cymruwales.com  wrote:

> **
>  Hi all
>
>  Everyone so far has agreed that the ability to Speak Gaelic would be
> desirable (rather than undesirable !) Can we therefore amend the advert to
> this effect?
>

Nope. The ability to read abbreviated medieval latin (I was in Lincoln the
other day) would be desirable however its not going to be put into the
advert.




>  Secondly, I've created a draft Welsh Language Policy for your comments
> here:
>
>  https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000/Welsh_Language_Policy
>
>  Let's be positive about this please. If you have negative feelings
> towards minority languages, for any reasons, can I suggest you swallow
> hard, count to ten and drink up your glass of milk.
>

Err provides way to much of an official role for english (for example if we
were to produce leaflets for the National Eisteddfod of Wales it would be
unreasonable to require that be translated into english) and discriminates
against Poles.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Language Policy

2013-04-24 Thread Jon Davies
>From some parts of the world English is a minority language and the
Académie française try and pretend it is


On 24 April 2013 13:43, i...@cymruwales.com  wrote:

> **
>  Hi all
>
>  Everyone so far has agreed that the ability to Speak Gaelic would be
> desirable (rather than undesirable !) Can we therefore amend the advert to
> this effect?
>
>  Secondly, I've created a draft Welsh Language Policy for your comments
> here:
>
>  https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000/Welsh_Language_Policy
>
>  Let's be positive about this please. If you have negative feelings
> towards minority languages, for any reasons, can I suggest you swallow
> hard, count to ten and drink up your glass of milk.
>
>  Regards
>
>  Robin
>
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[Wikimediauk-l] Language Policy

2013-04-24 Thread i...@cymruwales.com

 
  
 
 
  
   Hi all
   
  
    
   
  
   Everyone so far has agreed that the ability to Speak Gaelic would be desirable (rather than undesirable !) Can we therefore amend the advert to this effect?
   
  
    
   
  
   Secondly, I've created a draft Welsh Language Policy for your comments here:
   
  
    
   
  
   https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Llywelyn2000/Welsh_Language_Policy
   
  
    
   
  
   Let's be positive about this please. If you have negative feelings towards minority languages, for any reasons, can I suggest you swallow hard, count to ten and drink up your glass of milk.
   
  
    
   
  
   Regards
   
  
    
   
  
   Robin
   
  
    
  
 


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