Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
Thanks both - I will think on this and respond on the discussion page. See you both at Wikimania, perhaps over a drink? Jon On 6 August 2014 21:56, Charles Matthews wrote: > > On 6 August 2014 21:31, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> >> I'm not interested in a flame war. I'm after clear evidence or an >> apology, nothing more. >> >> Of course the CE of WMUK doesn't have to apologise to you for his > opinion, one he is paid to have and to express; or for "outraging" you. If > he'd like to clarify why he holds it, that's another matter. > > It is not the way I would have put the point he is trying to make, but > then we all have somewhat different perspectives. Indeed, we all have > different, "partially obstructed" views, as they say when trying to sell > dodgy theatre tickets. > > Charles > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
On 6 August 2014 21:31, Michael Peel wrote: > > > I'm not interested in a flame war. I'm after clear evidence or an apology, > nothing more. > > Of course the CE of WMUK doesn't have to apologise to you for his opinion, one he is paid to have and to express; or for "outraging" you. If he'd like to clarify why he holds it, that's another matter. It is not the way I would have put the point he is trying to make, but then we all have somewhat different perspectives. Indeed, we all have different, "partially obstructed" views, as they say when trying to sell dodgy theatre tickets. Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
On 6 Aug 2014, at 21:15, Charles Matthews wrote: > > On 6 August 2014 20:42, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi Jon, > > I've left some comments on the talk page. [1] > > I found your comment that Wikimedia UK has been inhibited by "An Animal Farm > culture of ‘Volunteers good, staff bad" outrageous. That's never been the > case, as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that we have staff rather than > being an entirely volunteer-based organisation. Please can you either provide > evidence to back up your statement here, or apologise for it. > > Oh, good, a flame war. With a bit of talent and application, it could be made > to last to, what, Sunday evening? (Ex-staff being thin on the ground, perhaps > this member of that select group can comment that there is at least something > in what Jon is pointing to here.) I'm not interested in a flame war. I'm after clear evidence or an apology, nothing more. Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
On 6 August 2014 20:42, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi Jon, > > I've left some comments on the talk page. [1] > > I found your comment that Wikimedia UK has been inhibited by "An Animal > Farm culture of ‘Volunteers good, staff bad" outrageous. That's never been > the case, as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that we have staff rather > than being an entirely volunteer-based organisation. Please can you either > provide evidence to back up your statement here, or apologise for it. > Oh, good, a flame war. With a bit of talent and application, it could be made to last to, what, Sunday evening? (Ex-staff being thin on the ground, perhaps this member of that select group can comment that there is at least something in what Jon is pointing to here.) Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
Hi Jon, I've left some comments on the talk page. [1] I found your comment that Wikimedia UK has been inhibited by "An Animal Farm culture of ‘Volunteers good, staff bad" outrageous. That's never been the case, as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that we have staff rather than being an entirely volunteer-based organisation. Please can you either provide evidence to back up your statement here, or apologise for it. [1] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File_talk:Shaping_our_programme_2014.pdf#Comments_from_Mike Thanks, Mike On 6 Aug 2014, at 12:19, Jon Davies wrote: > Dear community, > > We are now preparing for plans for next year. This is a complicated task with > many viewpoints and factors to consider. Your views are an important part of > this and I am publishing today a discussion paper with suggestions for how > the chapter can develop over the next year and beyond. > > You can access it here > https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Shaping_our_programme_2014.pdf > > Please comment on the discussion page. > > Thanks and hope to see many of you at Wikimania. > > Jon > > -- > Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 > tweet @jonatreesdavies > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. > > Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19
Dear community, We are now preparing for plans for next year. This is a complicated task with many viewpoints and factors to consider. Your views are an important part of this and I am publishing today a discussion paper with suggestions for how the chapter can develop over the next year and beyond. You can access it here https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Shaping_our_programme_2014.pdf Please comment on the discussion page. Thanks and hope to see many of you at Wikimania. Jon -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
