[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art winner in London

[Andrew Turvey]

One of the winners of the Wikipedia Loves Art project that we ran in February 
is in London later this month (she lives in France) - would anyone be 
interested in meeting up? 

Please let me know. 

Andrew 

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Forwarded message: 

Andrew, 

I just booked a Eurostar ticket for Sept. 23rd. (arrive around 12 leave at 8 
p.m.) I am planning to spend time in the V&A reveling in the beauty. I would 
love to meet some of the folks there that are involved in the Wiki program. Is 
there a chance of that? 

Thanks so much, 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes

[Thomas Dalton]

Congratulations to the winners and thank you to all the organisers and
competitors!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes

[Andrew Turvey]

 "Kwan Ting Chan"  wrote: 
> From: "Kwan Ting Chan"  
> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
> Sent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 02:29:51 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
> Portugal 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes 
> 
> Andrew Turvey wrote: > > Thank you for your patience with us whilst we have 
> processed these > photographs, and we hope you enjoyed participating in this 
> event. If you > have any comments about this event or how it could be 
> improved in the > future, please let us know. 

*Look at the calendar* Hmm 

Indeed. Uploading of photographs finished at the end of February. It was 
decided by the organizers that awarding of prizes would wait until after all 
the photographs had been individually assessed by museum staff for copyright 
validity etc. Given the quantity of photos this has taken quite a very long 
time to finish. 

The recent Dutch "Wiki Loves Art" contest had a prize awarding event in the 
calendar from the start, which I think is a good idea. 

I think next time we should talk to the museums about awarding prizes before 
all the images are assessed. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes

[Kwan Ting Chan]

Andrew Turvey wrote:


Thank you for your patience with us whilst we have processed these 
photographs, and we hope you enjoyed participating in this event. If you 
have any comments about this event or how it could be improved in the 
future, please let us know.


*Look at the calendar*

Hmm

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes

[Andrew Turvey]

Earlier this year, the Victoria & Albert Museum and Wikimedia UK took part in 
“Wikipedia Loves Art”, a free content photography contest. 




We had over 30 people attend the Victoria and Albert event, and over 460 
photographs submitted to Flickr. Globally, more than 50 teams from fourteen 
museums submitted over 5,000 photographs, with London submitting the second 
highest number of photographs from any location. 




All of these photographs have now been assessed and processed and are now being 
prepared for upload to Wikimedia Commons and use on Wikipedia. We can now 
announce the winners from the V&A, as follows: 




Team (members) – Points 




1 st place: vavaval - Val_McG and dj_photo – 142 points 
2 nd place: opalartseekers4 - Forever Wiser – 88 points 
3 rd place: ukfgr - the wee pixie and mrsraggle – 82 points 
4 th place: veronikab – 75 points 



Vavaval win a large print of one of their photos on soft textured fine art 
paper, courtesy of Robbies Photographers, plus two tickets to a V&A exhibition 
of their choice. 




The four winners also win a pack from moo.com comprising 50 Business Cards and 
20 Postcards featuring photographs of their choice. 




We are contacting the winners individually with details of how to claim their 
prizes. 




The Digital Team at the V&A and Wikimedia UK really appreciate the effort that 
all the teams made to photograph so many objects as well as the time they spent 
uploading their work. 




Thank you for your patience with us whilst we have processed these photographs, 
and we hope you enjoyed participating in this event. If you have any comments 
about this event or how it could be improved in the future, please let us know. 




Regards, 


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Andrew Turvey 
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Wikimedia UK 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[Gordon Joly]

At 08:45 + 23/3/09, David Gerard wrote:
>2009/3/22 Gordon Joly :
>
>>  This whole project has really been thought through...
>
>
>It got a bucketload of images, so it achieved its aims ;-p
>
>
>- d.

Yup! But then so did the FLICKR bots who trawled FLICKR for images 
with a suitable licence (does this still happen?)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[David Gerard]

2009/3/22 Gordon Joly :

> This whole project has really been thought through...


It got a bucketload of images, so it achieved its aims ;-p


- d.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[Isabell Long]

2009/3/22 Gordon Joly :
> At 15:16 -0700 20/3/09, Cary Bass wrote:
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>>I'm supposed to be one of the judges. I found out that it's a lot of
>>work assessing 6,300 images and haven't yet found much time for it.
>>
>>Cary
>
>
> This whole project has really been thought through...

I have just read through the rules again and it does seem like a
rather big project!  I would offer my services and help people like
Cary assessing the images, but I don't know how to and even if I would
qualify to do so, having not been involved in anything like this
before?!

Good luck to you all!

Isabell

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[Gordon Joly]

At 15:16 -0700 20/3/09, Cary Bass wrote:
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>I'm supposed to be one of the judges. I found out that it's a lot of
>work assessing 6,300 images and haven't yet found much time for it.
>
>Cary


This whole project has really been thought through...

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[AndrewRT]

Thanks for the nudge!

I've been in touch with the organisers at the Brooklyn; they are
currently working through each of the 11,528 images to check they are
all copyright-compliant and otherwise ok. They haven't been able to
tell me when they'll be finished, but I'll keep hassling them!

Hope to be able to announce our winners by the middle of April.

regards,

On Mar 20, 9:11 am, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> What happened to Wikipedia Loves Art?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art
>
> Did I win?
>
> :D
>
> Gordo
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[Cary Bass]

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I'm supposed to be one of the judges. I found out that it's a lot of
work assessing 6,300 images and haven't yet found much time for it.

Cary

Gordon Joly wrote:
>
> What happened to Wikipedia Loves Art?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art
>
> Did I win?
>
> :D
>
> Gordo
>


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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art?

[Gordon Joly]

What happened to Wikipedia Loves Art?

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art

Did I win?

:D

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art!

[Gordon Joly]

At 12:38 + 10/2/09, Al Tally wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Gordon Joly 
><gordon.j...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>P.S. London Wikimeet 19 is back at the pub, we assume.
>
>
>Hopefully!
>
>--
>Alex
>(User:Majorly)

Make it so?

OK - I will!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art!

[Al Tally]

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> P.S. London Wikimeet 19 is back at the pub, we assume.
>

Hopefully!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art!

[Gordon Joly]

At 09:50 + 8/2/09, Gordon Joly wrote:
>London Wikimeet (18) today is at the V & A.
>
>Starting at 1pm (Sunday 8th February)
>
>http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_18
>
>Bring a pack of sandwiches and a bottle of Tizer!
>
>Gordo


Well, there was some confusion over the "place to meet".

And also, some confusion over the rules of the game...

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/discuss/72157613483798281/

Of course, on Wednesdays, all stations are wild cards.

YMMV,

Gordo

P.S. London Wikimeet 19 is back at the pub, we assume.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art!

[Gordon Joly]

London Wikimeet (18) today is at the V & A.

Starting at 1pm (Sunday 8th February)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_18

Bring a pack of sandwiches and a bottle of Tizer!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - launch event

[AndrewRT]

There was a good turnout today at the V&A for the launch of the
Wikipedia Loves Art project - at least 30 people came along and
everything seemed to go smoothly.

Staff from the V&A had laid out tea, coffee and biscuits for everyone,
were on hand to talk people through the registration process. They had
cameras ready to lend out, leaflets to give out and computers set up
so the finished items could be uploaded.

The event continues for the rest of the month - although no more tea
and biscuits! - so please continue to come down and snap away. The
normal Wikipedia "meet-up" next Sunday has been moved to the V&A - by
all means give me a ring on 07754 881 562 if you want to join us at
1pm then.

Thanks for your help so far!

On Jan 31, 1:28 pm, AndrewRT  wrote:
> The Wikipedia Loves Art project will start tomorrow, Sunday 1st
> February, with a launch event at the Victoria and Albert Museum at
> 1pm.
>
> The goal list has now been published 
> athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#prizes
>
> Hope as many of you can come along as possible - and happy snapping!
>
> Andrew
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - the Goal List!

[Tom Holden]

Andrew, could I have the source for that PDF. We need to include sponsors
names/logos and prize details.

I also need to include the moo promotion code.

Tom

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> The Wikipedia Loves Art project will start tomorrow, Sunday 1st
> February, with a launch event at the Victoria and Albert Museum at
> 1pm.
> 
> The goal list has now been published at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#prizes
> 
> Hope as many of you can come along as possible - and happy snapping!
> 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - the Goal List!

[AndrewRT]

The Wikipedia Loves Art project will start tomorrow, Sunday 1st
February, with a launch event at the Victoria and Albert Museum at
1pm.

The goal list has now been published at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#prizes

Hope as many of you can come along as possible - and happy snapping!

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 10:23 -0800 11/1/09, AndrewRT wrote:
>On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>
>>  How does that sound? Complicated...
>
>Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler?
>
>  > ...and the competitor cannot control
>>  "stage 2". So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage,
>
>Yes, I spoke to Pharos about this previously - he though it would be
>best to keep the competition restricted to stage 1. Stage 2 is still
>important of course otherwise wikipedia doesn't get to benefit from
>the photos and everyone is welcome to join in!
>
>>  there
>>  may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not
>>  the judges).
>
>Yes - that's the main reason why Pharos thought it best not to have
>the competetion at this stage.
>
>>  And I thought that this was a team competition.
>>
>>  http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>>
>>  "Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and
>>  sign-up online (posted soon)."
>
>Yes I forgot that bit, you can also do it in a team if you prefer.
>
>>  Is the V & A competition a solo effort?
>
>No. It's a bit complicated and personally I feel like I'm being pulled
>in all directions! The project is being organised by the Brooklyn
>Museum in New York, who have asked other museums to get involved.
>Pharos is coordinating the wikipedia side in New York and globally;
>the V&A are organising (although I'm not sure exactly what at this
>stage) the London launch event on 1st Feb and my job is to advertise
>the London event among the WP community and get as many people along
>as possible!
>
>Points will be added up and prizes given to the different teams who
>participate at the different museums.
>
>Hope that's a little clearer!
>
>Andrew
>
>__

Yes, loads. Good luck.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 10:23 -0800 11/1/09, AndrewRT wrote:
>On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>
>>  How does that sound? Complicated...
>
>Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler?

Thousands of ways

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[AndrewRT]

On Jan 10, 10:56 am, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>
> How does that sound? Complicated...

Can you suggest any ways of making it simpler?

> ...and the competitor cannot control
> "stage 2". So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage,

Yes, I spoke to Pharos about this previously - he though it would be
best to keep the competition restricted to stage 1. Stage 2 is still
important of course otherwise wikipedia doesn't get to benefit from
the photos and everyone is welcome to join in!

> there
> may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not
> the judges).

Yes - that's the main reason why Pharos thought it best not to have
the competetion at this stage.

> And I thought that this was a team competition.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>
> "Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and
> sign-up online (posted soon)."

Yes I forgot that bit, you can also do it in a team if you prefer.

> Is the V & A competition a solo effort?

No. It's a bit complicated and personally I feel like I'm being pulled
in all directions! The project is being organised by the Brooklyn
Museum in New York, who have asked other museums to get involved.
Pharos is coordinating the wikipedia side in New York and globally;
the V&A are organising (although I'm not sure exactly what at this
stage) the London launch event on 1st Feb and my job is to advertise
the London event among the WP community and get as many people along
as possible!

Points will be added up and prizes given to the different teams who
participate at the different museums.

Hope that's a little clearer!

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 14:23 -0800 8/1/09, AndrewRT wrote:
>On Jan 7, 9:41 pm, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>  >Now, where are the rules of the game?
>>
>>  >Gordo
>
>The skeleton of the rules of the game are outlined on the wikipedia
>project page (en:WP:WLART) and the Flickr group (http://www.flickr.com/
>groups/wikipedia_loves_art/) Quite a few of the details are still
>missing - some just not expressed and up to be decided. I had a fairly
>detailed conversation with Pharos last week and many of these details
>are set but just not put on paper yet!
>
>  >From various discussions, the outline seems to be:
>
>People are invited to take photos, within the rules of the particular
>institution. For instance, the V&A say no tripods, no photos in
>temporary exhibitions (these are marked on the museum guide) and none
>of work created by artists who are alive or who died within 70 years
>(a precise statement of their rules will be posted to the wiki soon);
>as most of their collection is older than 200 years, the last isn't
>much of a problem as long as you keep away from the modern sections.
>If you take a photo of an item, please make your next photo a photo of
>the label so we can catalogue.
>
>People will be given a list of about 50 themes. For instance if the
>theme is "politician" (not giving anything away here!), you would get
>a point for a photograph of a sculture of a politician. You can get a
>maximum of three points per theme so the most you could get is 150
>points. A photo cannot count to more than one theme.
>
>Once taken, please upload the photo of the item and the label to
>flickr. Add a name, description and tag "V&A". Also tag the "theme"
>that applies to the photo. Crop, rotate, sharpen or otherwise edit it
>within flickr as necessary; Change the license to CC-Attribution or CC-
>Attribution-ShareAlike. Then add it to the WLA group.
>
>I've just noticed incidentally that flickr has an upload limit of
>100MB per month for free accounts. My 6mp camera creates photos about
>0.5 to 2 MB in size meaning I expect to get around 100 photos for that
>(50 images plus 50 tags). Is this likely to cause a problem? Can you
>get round it by just creating three accounts?
>
>Or should we say people can alternatively just upload the photo of the
>item, as long as you transcribe the label onto the description?
>
>Each museum will go round each photo tagged to them and check it
>complies with their restrictions (e.g. living artists). I'm not sure
>at the moment whether they will remove non-compliant images from the
>group or tag them and ask the photographer to remove them from the
>group. Either way they will still be there on the person's own
>photostream so there's no loss if we need to reverse it. Also I'm not
>sure whether someone will go round positively tagging those that
>appear to be compliant.
>
>We will also contact users who haven't applied a wikipedia-compatible
>license to ask them to change it.
>
>All photos must be uploaded with the right tags and license by the end
>of February to get any points.
>
>Once all this is done, we'll tot up the points and announce the
>results. The three people who get the most points will each win a
>prize. The person with the most points will also win the prize from
>Wikipedia Loves Art, which is to nominate their favourite artist and a
>group of wikpedians will create a Good Article on the artist.
>
>We'll then ask people to nominate what they think is the best addition
>to wikipedia, have a vote and the winner of that will also get a
>prize.
>
>Employees of the V&A and Board members of Wiki UK Ltd are not eligible
>for prizes but are still welcome to take part!
>
>After that, comes stage 2 which is to identify photos that would be
>useful on wikipedia. I would expect to see a number of repeat images,
>so we should try to identify the best photos. This is probably best
>done by adding comments to the photo in the group. Once this is done,
>transfer them to Commons using a tool like 
>http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload
>and link into articles. Also add a category like "Wikipedia Loves Art"
>so we can keep track on the lasting impact we're having. This will all
>be done in March/April.
>
>ok, how does that sound? Is this plan going to work? Is there a better
>way of doing things? What other details need to be decided to make
>this project work?
>
>regards,
>
>Andrew

Thanks Andrew.

How does that sound? Complicated, and the competitor cannot control 
"stage 2". So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage, there 
may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not 
the judges).

And I thought that this was a team competition.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

"Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and 
sign-up online (posted soon)."

Is the V & A competition a solo effort?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 14:23 -0800 8/1/09, AndrewRT wrote:
>On Jan 7, 9:41 pm, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>  >Now, where are the rules of the game?
>>
>>  >Gordo
>
>The skeleton of the rules of the game are outlined on the wikipedia
>project page (en:WP:WLART) and the Flickr group (http://www.flickr.com/
>groups/wikipedia_loves_art/) Quite a few of the details are still
>missing - some just not expressed and up to be decided. I had a fairly
>detailed conversation with Pharos last week and many of these details
>are set but just not put on paper yet!

Or online.

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[AndrewRT]

On Jan 7, 9:41 pm, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> >Now, where are the rules of the game?
>
> >Gordo

The skeleton of the rules of the game are outlined on the wikipedia
project page (en:WP:WLART) and the Flickr group (http://www.flickr.com/
groups/wikipedia_loves_art/) Quite a few of the details are still
missing - some just not expressed and up to be decided. I had a fairly
detailed conversation with Pharos last week and many of these details
are set but just not put on paper yet!

>From various discussions, the outline seems to be:

People are invited to take photos, within the rules of the particular
institution. For instance, the V&A say no tripods, no photos in
temporary exhibitions (these are marked on the museum guide) and none
of work created by artists who are alive or who died within 70 years
(a precise statement of their rules will be posted to the wiki soon);
as most of their collection is older than 200 years, the last isn't
much of a problem as long as you keep away from the modern sections.
If you take a photo of an item, please make your next photo a photo of
the label so we can catalogue.

People will be given a list of about 50 themes. For instance if the
theme is "politician" (not giving anything away here!), you would get
a point for a photograph of a sculture of a politician. You can get a
maximum of three points per theme so the most you could get is 150
points. A photo cannot count to more than one theme.

Once taken, please upload the photo of the item and the label to
flickr. Add a name, description and tag "V&A". Also tag the "theme"
that applies to the photo. Crop, rotate, sharpen or otherwise edit it
within flickr as necessary; Change the license to CC-Attribution or CC-
Attribution-ShareAlike. Then add it to the WLA group.

I've just noticed incidentally that flickr has an upload limit of
100MB per month for free accounts. My 6mp camera creates photos about
0.5 to 2 MB in size meaning I expect to get around 100 photos for that
(50 images plus 50 tags). Is this likely to cause a problem? Can you
get round it by just creating three accounts?

Or should we say people can alternatively just upload the photo of the
item, as long as you transcribe the label onto the description?

Each museum will go round each photo tagged to them and check it
complies with their restrictions (e.g. living artists). I'm not sure
at the moment whether they will remove non-compliant images from the
group or tag them and ask the photographer to remove them from the
group. Either way they will still be there on the person's own
photostream so there's no loss if we need to reverse it. Also I'm not
sure whether someone will go round positively tagging those that
appear to be compliant.

We will also contact users who haven't applied a wikipedia-compatible
license to ask them to change it.

All photos must be uploaded with the right tags and license by the end
of February to get any points.

Once all this is done, we'll tot up the points and announce the
results. The three people who get the most points will each win a
prize. The person with the most points will also win the prize from
Wikipedia Loves Art, which is to nominate their favourite artist and a
group of wikpedians will create a Good Article on the artist.

We'll then ask people to nominate what they think is the best addition
to wikipedia, have a vote and the winner of that will also get a
prize.

Employees of the V&A and Board members of Wiki UK Ltd are not eligible
for prizes but are still welcome to take part!

After that, comes stage 2 which is to identify photos that would be
useful on wikipedia. I would expect to see a number of repeat images,
so we should try to identify the best photos. This is probably best
done by adding comments to the photo in the group. Once this is done,
transfer them to Commons using a tool like 
http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload
and link into articles. Also add a category like "Wikipedia Loves Art"
so we can keep track on the lasting impact we're having. This will all
be done in March/April.

ok, how does that sound? Is this plan going to work? Is there a better
way of doing things? What other details need to be decided to make
this project work?

regards,

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

>
>
>Now, where are the rules of the game?
>
>Gordo

Why do I ask? Easy - I have suffered too many deletes from Commons of 
images that I created of work of arts. I have stopped submitting much 
at all to Commons, since I cannot be sure that I am submitting 
permissible work.

So, this competition is going to be populated with people (like me) 
who don't know that I cannot take a picture of art work in a 
temporary exhibition and submit it to Commons.

I know that the rules for Wikipedia are different, which was was why 
I asked about the primary submission site - would it be Commons or 
Wikipedia. FLICKR does not have any GFDL options: everything is 
submitted under Creative Commons Licence, or full copyright. Three of 
the options are incompatible with Commons:

Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Creative Commons

Attribution-NonCommercial Creative Commons

Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs Creative Commons


See http://www.flickr.com/account/prefs/license/ (you will have to login).

A scavenger hunt works best where there is some freedom to interpret 
the rules, bend them, extend them etc.

And have fun.

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 10:32 + 7/1/09, Gordon Joly wrote:
>At 23:51 + 6/1/09, Tom Holden wrote:
>>There is now a facebook event for this here:
>>
>>http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=110672260261
>>
>>and a central WLA group here:
>>
>>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43008300207
>>
>>Please spam all your friends to join the event. We want as good a turn
>>out as possible.
>>
>>Tom
>
>Very nice.
>
>Now, where are the rules of the game?
>
>Gordo


And I have just seen this

http://www.indicommons.org/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 23:51 + 6/1/09, Tom Holden wrote:
>There is now a facebook event for this here:
>
>http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=110672260261
>
>and a central WLA group here:
>
>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43008300207
>
>Please spam all your friends to join the event. We want as good a turn
>out as possible.
>
>Tom

Very nice.

Now, where are the rules of the game?

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Tom Holden]

There is now a facebook event for this here:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=110672260261

and a central WLA group here:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43008300207

Please spam all your friends to join the event. We want as good a turn
out as possible.

Tom

2008/12/31 AndrewRT :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm starting to get some more details together about the events at the
> Victoria & Albert Museum that we're running as part of the Wikipedia
> Loves Art project.
>
> The V&A are organising their launch event on Sunday 1st February -
> time to be confirmed. If you can come down that day or otherwise
> contribute either in person or on wiki during February please sign you
> name up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#participants
>
> Please spread the word to anyone else you know who may be interested -
> the following groups have already been notified:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#publicity and please
> add in any other groups you contact.
>
> Lastly, we're planning a short discussion on irc:wikimedia-uk to
> organise the event and sort out how the V&A element is going to fit in
> with the international project.
>
> If you can think of anything else please post on the project talkpage!
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[AndrewRT]

Hi all,

I'm starting to get some more details together about the events at the
Victoria & Albert Museum that we're running as part of the Wikipedia
Loves Art project.

The V&A are organising their launch event on Sunday 1st February -
time to be confirmed. If you can come down that day or otherwise
contribute either in person or on wiki during February please sign you
name up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#participants

Please spread the word to anyone else you know who may be interested -
the following groups have already been notified:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:w...@v%26a#publicity and please
add in any other groups you contact.

Lastly, we're planning a short discussion on irc:wikimedia-uk to
organise the event and sort out how the V&A element is going to fit in
with the international project.

If you can think of anything else please post on the project talkpage!

Regards,

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art & Wiki UK Ltd

[Michael Peel]

 From my understanding of the situation, the most basic thing we can  
do is to act as a link between the Museum(s) and Wikipedia/et al., to  
make sure that the fledgling alliance between the two does well and  
continues in the future, and that there are no misunderstandings. We  
could also get more museums or other collections involved (e.g.  
perhaps historical houses?), and do our best to raise the profile of  
the event, to maximise the number of people who get involved, and  
also those that hear about it (e.g. put it in the newsletter, mention  
it around the wikis where UK-based people hang out, possibly even get  
it mentioned in the press, magazines, etc.) There is a lot that can  
be done just with the expenditure of time, without requiring finances.

That said, I like your ideas, but with some modifications. It would  
be better if we could find someone to provide a prize, rather than  
purchase and provide one ourselves - for example, is there an art  
print shop that would consider providing some prints? It might be  
good to focus things on a single day (whilst stressing that the event  
is continuing over a month); for example, have a launch day for the  
event.

First and foremost, though, we should get in contact with the  
Victoria and Albert museum, and ask if there's anything we can do to  
help, ask if they have any questions about how the project will run,  
find out what resources they will be committing to the project, find  
out whether they'll allow tripods, etc. The most important thing is  
to start talking with them.

Mike

On 28 Nov 2008, at 23:26, Andrew Turvey wrote:

> I was having a think about this project and I wondered what the  
> nascent UK chapter could easily do to help out for this. Two ideas  
> sprang to mind:
>
> 1) Looking at Wikipedia Loves Art on flikr, it mentions "Teams with  
> the most points at the end of the month will get cool  
> prizes" (http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/). Could/ 
> should Wiki UK maybe put up a prize for the best team at the  
> Victoria & Albert? Say budget £50 and get a gift (somthing like  
> this maybe: http://www.vandashop.com/product.php?xProd=142&s=1 with  
> a message from the chapter?)
>
> 2) Alternatively, if we arranged a particular day where a group of  
> wikipedians went down to capture images from the V&A, could we  
> maybe do something where we had a reception and served coffee and  
> sandwiches to people who had come down for it?
>
> Has anyone done anythign like this before? Do you know what kind of  
> thing would work?
>
>
> Andrew
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[Andrew Turvey]

>> From: Andrew Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

>> 1) Looking at Wikipedia Loves Art on flikr, it mentions "Teams with the most 
>> points at the end of the month will get cool prizes" 
>> (http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/). Could/should Wiki UK 
>> maybe put up a prize for the best team at the Victoria & Albert? Say budget 
>> £50 and get a gift (somthing like this maybe: 
>> http://www.vandashop.com/product.php?xProd=142&s=1 with a message from the 
>> chapter?)


> geni said:

> We don't have the money at the moment.

£50 is less than five members. We expect to have at least 20 members by the AGM 
according to 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Business_Plan#Membership

If people see us doing concrete things supporting the projects they may be more
likely to join!

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[Thomas Dalton]

> £50 is less than five members. We expect to have at least 20 members by the
> AGM
> according to
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Business_Plan#Membership

Yes, and most of that money will go on costs already incurred and
costs incurred as part of the AGM (in fact, I doubt 20 members will
cover all those costs - if the board want their travel costs paid for
the AGM [which I think would be reasonable], they will probably have
to wait until more money comes in).
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art! photo contest at London's V&A Museum

[Pharos]

Hi folks,

Greetings from sister chapter-in-formation Wikimedia New York City.

We've been looking to follow up on our Wikipedia Take Manhattan events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Manhattan

with a museum photography contest.

We've been in touch with the local Brooklyn Museum, and they've in
turn reached out to a number of other world museums on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/

The result?  An event planned for February 2009:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art

And the Victoria and Albert Museum in London is one of the
institutions that -is participating- in this project.

It would great if you could put together a small local team to work
with the V&A on this.

BTW, please CC replies to me, because I am not a member of this list.

Thanks,
Pharos

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art & Wiki UK Lt

[geni]

2008/11/28 Andrew Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I was having a think about this project and I wondered what the nascent UK
> chapter could easily do to help out for this. Two ideas sprang to mind:
>
> 1) Looking at Wikipedia Loves Art on flikr, it mentions "Teams with the most
> points at the end of the month will get cool prizes"
> (http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/). Could/should Wiki UK
> maybe put up a prize for the best team at the Victoria & Albert? Say budget
> £50 and get a gift (somthing like this maybe:
> http://www.vandashop.com/product.php?xProd=142&s=1 with a message from the
> chapter?)
>
> 2) Alternatively, if we arranged a particular day where a group of
> wikipedians went down to capture images from the V&A, could we maybe do
> something where we had a reception and served coffee and sandwiches to
> people who had come down for it?
>
> Has anyone done anythign like this before? Do you know what kind of thing
> would work?
>
>
> Andrew

We don't have the money at the moment. What can be done is combine a
V&A morning/day with the monthly london meetup.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art & Wiki UK Lt

[Thomas Dalton]

2008/11/28 Andrew Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I was having a think about this project and I wondered what the nascent UK
> chapter could easily do to help out for this. Two ideas sprang to mind:
>
> 1) Looking at Wikipedia Loves Art on flikr, it mentions "Teams with the most
> points at the end of the month will get cool prizes"
> (http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/). Could/should Wiki UK
> maybe put up a prize for the best team at the Victoria & Albert? Say budget
> £50 and get a gift (somthing like this maybe:
> http://www.vandashop.com/product.php?xProd=142&s=1 with a message from the
> chapter?)
>
> 2) Alternatively, if we arranged a particular day where a group of
> wikipedians went down to capture images from the V&A, could we maybe do
> something where we had a reception and served coffee and sandwiches to
> people who had come down for it?
>
> Has anyone done anythign like this before? Do you know what kind of thing
> would work?

Both those ideas involve spending money. How about we stick to plans
that don't involve money until we actually have some?
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art & Wiki UK Ltd

[Andrew Turvey]

I was having a think about this project and I wondered what the nascent UK 
chapter could easily do to help out for this. Two ideas sprang to mind:

1) Looking at Wikipedia Loves Art on flikr, it mentions "Teams with the most 
points at the end of the month will get cool prizes" 
(http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/). Could/should Wiki UK maybe 
put up a prize for the best team at the Victoria & Albert? Say budget £50 and 
get a gift (somthing like this maybe: 
http://www.vandashop.com/product.php?xProd=142&s=1 with a message from the 
chapter?)

2) Alternatively, if we arranged a particular day where a group of wikipedians 
went down to capture images from the V&A, could we maybe do something where we 
had a reception and served coffee and sandwiches to people who had come down 
for it?

Has anyone done anythign like this before? Do you know what kind of thing would 
work?


Andrew



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Gordon Joly]

At 13:21 + 25/11/08, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>  >> And the Victoria and Albert Museum in London is one of the
>>>  institutions that -is participating- in this project.
>>>
>  >> It would great if you could put together a small local team to work
>>>  with the V&A on this.  Let me know when you have, so I can forward the
>>>  right folks the appropriate contact information.
>
>That sounds like an excellent idea. Any volunteers? (Particularly
>volunteers in London, although that shouldn't be essential.)
>
>__


I'll volunteer. What do I have to do?

:D

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[Thomas Dalton]

>> And the Victoria and Albert Museum in London is one of the
>> institutions that -is participating- in this project.
>>
>> It would great if you could put together a small local team to work
>> with the V&A on this.  Let me know when you have, so I can forward the
>> right folks the appropriate contact information.

That sounds like an excellent idea. Any volunteers? (Particularly
volunteers in London, although that shouldn't be essential.)

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art

[Michael Peel]

I'm forwarding the message below on the behalf of a non-subscriber to  
this list, Pharos.

Mike

Begin forwarded message:

> Hi folks,
>
> Greetings from sister chapter-in-formation Wikimedia New York City.
>
> We've been looking to follow up on our Wikipedia Take Manhattan  
> events:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Manhattan
>
> with a museum photography contest.
>
> We've been in touch with the local Brooklyn Museum, and they've in
> turn reached out to a number of other world museums on Flickr:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/
>
> The result?  An event planned for February 2009:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Loves_Art
>
> And the Victoria and Albert Museum in London is one of the
> institutions that -is participating- in this project.
>
> It would great if you could put together a small local team to work
> with the V&A on this.  Let me know when you have, so I can forward the
> right folks the appropriate contact information.
>
> BTW, please CC replies to me, because I am not a member of this list.
>
> Thanks,
> Pharos

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