Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
Has any benchmarking been done on this? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
We live in difficult times On 7 December 2012 15:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: That seems a bit excessive. Those are precisely the people that could have very valuable input in the discussions. As long as they declare the interest, I don't see a problem. On Dec 7, 2012 3:09 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Chris Keating and I had a chat about Volunteer Declarations of Interest and agreed that it might be worth reminding active members that if they have any intention of applying for roles that are coming up, e.g. Wikipedian in Residence posts it would be prudent to refrain from commenting on any of the aspects surrounding these roles, specifically discussions about job descriptions, contracts, working agreements etc. This will eradicate any issues around Conflicts of Interest. We just cannot be too careful with such a sensitive issue. For those who are not so conflicted we would really appreciate any comments on thishttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_volunteer_Conflict_of_Interest_Policypaper setting out how we would like to manage such CoI's in future. Jon -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Office mailing list off...@wikimedia.org.uk http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/office -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
On 7 December 2012 15:33, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: We live in difficult times True, but don't want to through the baby out with the bathwater. We need, as a community, to learn how to manage conflicts of interest. We can't just avoid them. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
*Throw*, even - my fingers like to type (near-)homophones... On 7 December 2012 15:38, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2012 15:33, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: We live in difficult times True, but don't want to through the baby out with the bathwater. We need, as a community, to learn how to manage conflicts of interest. We can't just avoid them. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: True, but don't want to through the baby out with the bathwater. We need, as a community, to learn how to manage conflicts of interest. We can't just avoid them. Indeed. Part of that is separating decision-making from any benefit that results from those decisions. Community input will be vital in further developing things like our GLAM programme, and we are planning to formalise that with things like a formally-constituted GLAM Committee. It's very likely that that programme will in future involve more Wikimedians in Residence and more staff. What we can't have is a situation where someone on (say) a GLAM Committee is helping make decisions about where Wikimedia UK is seeking to appoint Wikimedians in Residence, or what their contract should say, and then applying for one of those Wikimedian in Residence posts. I hope this makes sense. Thanks, Chris ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
There is a difference between contributing to the public discussion on a topic and being party of the committee making decisions on it. Jon's email was much broader than just sitting on committees. On Dec 7, 2012 5:33 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: True, but don't want to through the baby out with the bathwater. We need, as a community, to learn how to manage conflicts of interest. We can't just avoid them. Indeed. Part of that is separating decision-making from any benefit that results from those decisions. Community input will be vital in further developing things like our GLAM programme, and we are planning to formalise that with things like a formally-constituted GLAM Committee. It's very likely that that programme will in future involve more Wikimedians in Residence and more staff. What we can't have is a situation where someone on (say) a GLAM Committee is helping make decisions about where Wikimedia UK is seeking to appoint Wikimedians in Residence, or what their contract should say, and then applying for one of those Wikimedian in Residence posts. I hope this makes sense. Thanks, Chris ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Volunteer Declarations of Interest.
On 7 December 2012 17:33, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: What we can't have is a situation where someone on (say) a GLAM Committee is helping make decisions about where Wikimedia UK is seeking to appoint Wikimedians in Residence, or what their contract should say, and then applying for one of those Wikimedian in Residence posts. I hope this makes sense. That seems more in line with what was initially posted: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_volunteer_Conflict_of_Interest_Policy - while Jon's comment seems to suggest that even if you have no decision-making ability, you'd be best to keep quiet on the whole thing Just In Case, which is a bit more restrictive. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
