Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Ankry]

See footnotes 15 & 16:

footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17
footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on
page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)

If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.

Ankry

> I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I
> just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20.
> I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both
> continue to subsequent pages.
>
> -- billinghurst
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry  wrote:
>> Billinghurst wrote:
>>> To note that you can use multiple versions of  if the
>>> reference carries on.  Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the
>>> ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do
>>> something like   where it is the initial page and
>>> continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from
>>> the same page, so it is pretty safe.
>>
>> It happens. See
>>
>> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/16
>>
>> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/17
>>
>> Ankry
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

2016-01-18 15:50 GMT+01:00 Ankry :

> See footnotes 15 & 16:
>
> footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17
> footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on
> page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
>
> If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
>
> Ankry


Oo, that's very « exotic » (at first I didn't see it).

Easy, solid and reliable but a bit bad solution : just put the footnote 16
entirely on the page 16.

More difficult and probably still a bad solution, using noinclude balise on
page 16 for footnote 16 and onlyinclude balise on page 17 for a duplicated
footnote 16.

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[billinghurst]

English Wikisource has documentation too. See

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes_and_endnotes

To note that you can use multiple versions of  if the
reference carries on.  Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the
ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do
something like   where it is the initial page and
continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from
the same page, so it is pretty safe.

-- Billinghurst

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Ankry  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced
>> in Bengali Wikisource.
>>
>> There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used
>> the following code in Page 1:-
>>
>>  Text of Page 1 reference and text of Page 2
>> reference
>>
>> It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace,
>> its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
>>
>> Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates?
>> Thanks.
>
> This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use:
> ... on the following page(s), as described
> here:
>   
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_single_reference
>
> Ankry
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Ankry]

Billinghurst wrote:
> To note that you can use multiple versions of  if the
> reference carries on.  Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the
> ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do
> something like   where it is the initial page and
> continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from
> the same page, so it is pretty safe.

It happens. See

https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/16

https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/17

Ankry


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[billinghurst]

I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I
just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20.
I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both
continue to subsequent pages.

-- billinghurst

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry  wrote:
> Billinghurst wrote:
>> To note that you can use multiple versions of  if the
>> reference carries on.  Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the
>> ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do
>> something like   where it is the initial page and
>> continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from
>> the same page, so it is pretty safe.
>
> It happens. See
>
> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/16
>
> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/17
>
> Ankry
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Great. Thanks for the link. :-)

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Ankry,

It really helped. Problem solved.

Thanks a lot,
Bodhisattwa


On 18 January 2016 at 13:07, Ankry  wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I
> faced
> > in Bengali Wikisource.
> >
> > There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used
> > the following code in Page 1:-
> >
> >  Text of Page 1 reference and text of Page 2
> > reference
> >
> > It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in
> mainspace,
> > its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates?
> > Thanks.
>
> This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use:
> ... on the following page(s), as described
> here:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_single_reference
>
> Ankry
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[billinghurst]

Ah okay. Slightly different situation than I was trying to explain.


That is just butt ugly. I can think of some tricky ways to do it in a
presentation space so it sort of is like that, but all ultimately
pointless for main namespace. I would simply move it forward a page
and add a  about why in the footer of both pages.
Ultimately that is a typesetting matter, not the author's intent, so
why waste time going picture perfect.

-- billinghurst

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Ankry  wrote:
> See footnotes 15 & 16:
>
> footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17
> footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on
> page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
>
> If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
>
> Ankry
>
>> I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I
>> just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20.
>> I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both
>> continue to subsequent pages.
>>
>> -- billinghurst
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry  wrote:
>>> Billinghurst wrote:
 To note that you can use multiple versions of  if the
 reference carries on.  Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the
 ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do
 something like   where it is the initial page and
 continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from
 the same page, so it is pretty safe.
>>>
>>> It happens. See
>>>
>>> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/16
>>>
>>> https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_Symposion.djvu/17
>>>
>>> Ankry
>>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template help needed

[Ankry]

> Hi,
>
> I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced
> in Bengali Wikisource.
>
> There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used
> the following code in Page 1:-
>
>  Text of Page 1 reference and text of Page 2
> reference
>
> It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace,
> its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
>
> Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates?
> Thanks.

This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use:
... on the following page(s), as described
here:
  
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_single_reference

Ankry


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