Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Jason Wong jwongw...@ymail.com wrote: The discussions about the open of rollback and patrol right are in progress at Chinese Wikipedia (zh.wikipedia.org). Some suggested that we can have two ways to grant right to the qualified users. One is auto-promote (by system), and one is by hand (by admin). That's mean two requirements are needed. The requirement for auto-promotion is higher, and if user met this requirement, he must be promoted by system. Before that, if users met another requirement, he can make an application, and admin can consider whether or not. I would like to know that, is this possible to run out practically? Yes, it is possible. The German Wikipedia is using this exact same system for allowing people to mark sighted versions. -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] API breakage a few hours ago
The API return in XML for queries with no result elements was broken a few hours ago. I believe the culprit is r46845 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46845 which does say it is a breaking change, but the break intended is that applications may see query-continue earlier than expected (i.e. earlier than the limit the app set), which applications should usually handle anyway. However it changes the XML structure for no results; if I query for (say) recentchanges in the last few hours, and there are none, it should (and did) return (in part): queryrecentchanges //query now it returns query recentchanges= which is not the same thing. Application code looking for the recentchanges element will see the return as missing, incomplete, or some error, rather than an empty element. For RC, the code diff is http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryRecentChanges.php?pathrev=46845r1=46844r2=46845 given the way setIndexedTagName_internal apparently works. I think (but haven't tested) this breaks null returns for everything, and thus a lot of applications may have trouble. Can we get it backed out and re-committed when it generates the correct XML? (I will patch a couple of my things for now.) Best regards, Robert ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] API breakage a few hours ago
Robert Ullmann wrote: [...] now it returns query recentchanges= Filed in Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17552 -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] API breakage a few hours ago
(Did you read http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.api/911 ? ) And for future reference, mediawiki-api mailing list might be more convenient to flag api-related issues ;) Cheers, 2009/2/18 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: Robert Ullmann wrote: [...] now it returns query recentchanges= Filed in Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17552 -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Nicolas Dumazet — NicDumZ [ nɪk.d̪ymz ] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
Hi, I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2 on Ubuntu 8, and after a recent update, I'm now getting the error: Warning: Missing argument 5 for MediaWiki::initialize(), called in /usr/share/mediawiki/index.php on line 89 and defined in /var/lib/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php on line 52 Fatal error: Call to a member function getCheck() on a non-object in /var/lib/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php on line 137 Why would an update break Mediawiki's homepage, and how can I fix it? Interestingly, Google returns lot's of sites with this error, but they're all Mediawiki sites containing the error, and not anyone discussing why the error occurs or how to fix it. Regards, Chris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
Have you run php /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance/update.php or php5 /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance/update.php in the shell. Gruß Jan Luca -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Chris Spencer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2009 19:58 An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu Hi, I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2 on Ubuntu 8, and after a recent update, I'm now getting the error: Warning: Missing argument 5 for MediaWiki::initialize(), called in /usr/share/mediawiki/index.php on line 89 and defined in /var/lib/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php on line 52 Fatal error: Call to a member function getCheck() on a non-object in /var/lib/mediawiki/includes/Wiki.php on line 137 Why would an update break Mediawiki's homepage, and how can I fix it? Interestingly, Google returns lot's of sites with this error, but they're all Mediawiki sites containing the error, and not anyone discussing why the error occurs or how to fix it. Regards, Chris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Microsoft’s IE 8 incompatibility w ith wikipedia.org
see http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2072 Microsoft's IE 8 incompatibility with wikipedia.org -- Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Microsoft’s IE 8 incompatibility with wikipedia.org
On 2/18/09 1:20 PM, shi zhao wrote: see http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2072 Microsoft's IE 8 incompatibility with wikipedia.org I'd kind of prefer if they just fixed their browser. :) What remaining IE8 issues are there? The first beta was so unusable in general we didn't bother attempting any workarounds on the assumption it would change entirely by later betas... Tracking bug list: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=13361 Still listed as open are: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13362 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13363 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13364 -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] [SPAM] Re: Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
Jan Luca wrote: Have you run php /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance/update.php Could I have an official response on the relative appropriateness of the above versus: cd /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance php update.php At one time, following Jan's advice was not likely to work and running the script after cd-ing to the appropriate directory would work. Now I see more people suggesting Jan's version of the command. Is it the intent of Mediawiki developers to ensure that _all_ scripts should run from any directory if the path to the script is provided as part of the argument to php? Mike ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Microsoft's IE 8 incompatibility with wikipedia.org
2009/2/18 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Yeah, I think we should just wait until they fix their browser... We're standards compliant, aren't we? Your reply was probably a joke, but, just in case it wasn't; Microsoft may be getting OEMs to ship with IE8: http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=621 V/r, Ryan Lane ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
Chris Spencer schreef: Hi, I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2 You should really be running a more recent version, like 1.13.4. Is 1.11.2 the version you upgraded to, or the one you upgraded from? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Microsoft's IE 8 incompatibility with wikipedia.org
2009/2/18 Lane, Ryan ryan.l...@ocean.navo.navy.mil: 2009/2/18 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: Yeah, I think we should just wait until they fix their browser... We're standards compliant, aren't we? David didn't say that, I did. Be careful with your quoting! (Who were you actually replying to? Your reply doesn't seem to make sense in response to either of our emails...) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
The version available in Ubuntu reps is sadly 1.12.0 for intrepid [0] Apparently Ubuntu 9.04 (release date in the end of April) will support MW 1.13.3 [1] If update.php is not run on version update, we should probably get more details and report this on ubuntu launchpad. :) [0] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/mediawiki [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mediawiki 2009/2/18 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@home.nl: Chris Spencer schreef: Hi, I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2 You should really be running a more recent version, like 1.13.4. Is 1.11.2 the version you upgraded to, or the one you upgraded from? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Nicolas Dumazet — NicDumZ [ nɪk.d̪ymz ] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
It turned out this was partially my fault. A few months ago, version 1.13 was somehow manually installed overtop the standard version from the Ubuntu repo. I guess the update reverted enough files to break everything. Thanks for the help. Chris On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Nicolas Dumazet nicd...@gmail.com wrote: The version available in Ubuntu reps is sadly 1.12.0 for intrepid [0] Apparently Ubuntu 9.04 (release date in the end of April) will support MW 1.13.3 [1] If update.php is not run on version update, we should probably get more details and report this on ubuntu launchpad. :) [0] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/mediawiki [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mediawiki 2009/2/18 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@home.nl: Chris Spencer schreef: Hi, I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2 You should really be running a more recent version, like 1.13.4. Is 1.11.2 the version you upgraded to, or the one you upgraded from? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Nicolas Dumazet — NicDumZ [ nɪk.d̪ymz ] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [SPAM] Re: Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Daly michael.d...@kayakwiki.org wrote: Jan Luca wrote: Have you run php /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance/update.php Could I have an official response on the relative appropriateness of the above versus: cd /usr/share/mediawiki/maintenance php update.php It makes no difference. I always use the first form (php maintenance/xxx) for all scripts, and haven't had one break yet. update.php doesn't access the filesystem anyway, except to get includes, and those are always loaded in a working dir-independent way. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing
We're trying to get some more traffic onto the new mobile gateway for testing -- and figuring out how best to get people to the mobile-optimized site if they hit a regular Wikipedia link while on their mobile phone. For the moment I've slipped in some JavaScript onto English Wikipedia which (intermittently for now) pops up a big link if it detects you’re on an iPhone, iPod Touch, or Android-based device. Pretty screen shots at: http://leuksman.com/log/2009/02/18/mobile-browser-links/ :D -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing
Is the new stuff in subversion? I know the hawpedia- based code was. -Chad On Feb 18, 2009 9:00 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're trying to get some more traffic onto the new mobile gateway for testing -- and figuring out how best to get people to the mobile-optimized site if they hit a regular Wikipedia link while on their mobile phone. For the moment I've slipped in some JavaScript onto English Wikipedia which (intermittently for now) pops up a big link if it detects you're on an iPhone, iPod Touch, or Android-based device. Pretty screen shots at: http://leuksman.com/log/2009/02/18/mobile-browser-links/ :D -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] edit form oddity -- newly missing input type
Sometime between yesterday and today, the edit summary field on en.wp's edit page lost its type=text attribute. It now reads: input name=wpSummary size=60 value= id=wpSummary maxlength=200 tabindex=1 / Lo and behold, type=text is the default, so it doesn't actually break a standards-compliant browser, but it's kind of an an odd change. (I noticed because it mildly broke a bot of mine, that assumed type=text only by accident, and after printing some extraneous error messages.) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Two ways to grant rollback and patrol right ?
If follow this system to grant right, is it possible to revoke the right from a user? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile gateway testing
On 2/18/09 6:08 PM, Chad wrote: Is the new stuff in subversion? I know the hawpedia- based code was. It's being tried out in git so far -- http://github.com/hcatlin/wikimedia-mobile/tree/master -- brion -Chad On Feb 18, 2009 9:00 PM, Brion Vibberbr...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're trying to get some more traffic onto the new mobile gateway for testing -- and figuring out how best to get people to the mobile-optimized site if they hit a regular Wikipedia link while on their mobile phone. For the moment I've slipped in some JavaScript onto English Wikipedia which (intermittently for now) pops up a big link if it detects you're on an iPhone, iPod Touch, or Android-based device. Pretty screen shots at: http://leuksman.com/log/2009/02/18/mobile-browser-links/ :D -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
