[Wikitech-l] FW: [FOSDEM] News : Call For Developer Rooms

2009-10-26 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
Forwarding a post with a call for developer rooms at FOSDEM 2010 (2010-02-06 
to 2009-02-07). Last year we made a request for a dev room and it was denied.

A question and a proposal, in case the question is to be answered with 'yes':

Q: Would we like MediaWiki to be present at FOSDEM 2010?

P: I would like to try and make a proposal with other CMS projects (like 
Joomla, Drupal, Typo3, Wordpress, etc.) for a dev room. Reason for not 
applying for a "MediaWiki dev room' is that I expect that this will not be 
honored because it has too tight a scope. I spoke to one of the people of the 
program committee last year, and I was advised to find a broader scope. 
Alternatively we could request a dev room with other wiki engines (tikiwiki, 
docuwiki, etc.). Personally I have no preference on which projects we would 
cooperate with, just as long as we will make a proposal that will get us the 
best chance to have a presence at FOSDEM 2010. Open to suggestions...

Additionally, I would like a reply from people interested in coordination of 
the talks in this event. In case we would get a dev room together with the 
other CMS/wiki projects, I would expect that we would have slots for ~4 talks 
on MediaWiki, and possibly one or two talks in cooperation with the other 
projects on common problems/solutions/whatever.

As stated below, if we want to have a chance at getting a dev room, we need to 
submit a proposal before 2009-11-22. IMO this means that we have to reach 
consensus on our course of action within a week, so we can get into contact 
with the other projects we would like to participate with for our request.

Reply clearly, reply quickly.

Cheers!

Siebrand

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Subject: [FOSDEM] News : Call For Developer Rooms

A *devroom* is a room in which projects can organize their own schedule made
of presentations, brainstorming and hacking sessions. Our goal is to
stimulate developer collaboration and cross-pollination between projects, and
as such we strongly favor projects with similar goals and domains to host a
devroom together.

*Distribution projects:* As every year we only have a limited number of
rooms, yet every year more and more individual distributions request a
Developer Room at FOSDEM. We do not want to have to choose between them, but
instead push our mission of a collaboration platform and cross-pollination
even further. We will host mixed distribution rooms where talks and sessions
will be organized *by topic*. Contributors from all distributions are welcome
to join in order to participate, attend, propose topics and sessions. To do
so, please subscribe to the distro mailinglist [1].

 What we offer:

  * a room on Saturday and/or Sunday,
  * a video projector (with VGA cable)
  * power (C/E plugs)
  * wired (RJ-45) network with Internet access at the speaker's desk,
  * best-effort shared wireless Internet access (a and b),
  * publication of the schedule on the FOSDEM website, including speaker bios
and talk abstracts.

 Conditions for requests:

  * preference for requests with a general topic, eg. from projects with
similar goals/domains,
  * be involved in Free or Opensource Software (the projects produce and
release software under an opensource license or otherwise contributes to
opensource activities and communities),
  * send us a devroom request before 2009-11-22 as described below,

Distribution talks are organized collectively on the distro mailinglist [2].
Others can request a devroom by submitting the form below. For further
questions, contact devro...@fosdem.org [3].
The number of available rooms is limited so the FOSDEM organization will
select the proposals that can get a devroom.

*Key Dates:*
2009-11-22: Deadline for devroom requests
2009-11-29: Acceptance notification of devrooms
2010-02-06 to 2009-02-07: FOSDEM 2010

 DEVROOM REQUEST FORM


For more information, or to fill in the form check out:
http://www.fosdem.org/2010/call-developer-rooms

[1] http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010
[2] http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010
[3] mailto:devro...@fosdem.org

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Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: [FOSDEM] News : Call For Developer Rooms

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Leverington
On 2009-10-26, Siebrand Mazeland wrote:
> Forwarding a post with a call for developer rooms at FOSDEM 2010 (2010-02-06 
> to 2009-02-07). Last year we made a request for a dev room and it was denied.
> 
> A question and a proposal, in case the question is to be answered with 'yes':
> 
> Q: Would we like MediaWiki to be present at FOSDEM 2010?

There are many European developers, and the success of the Berlin meetup
suggests doing something at FOSDEM would be worthwhile.

> P: I would like to try and make a proposal with other CMS projects (like 
> Joomla, Drupal, Typo3, Wordpress, etc.) for a dev room. Reason for not 
> applying for a "MediaWiki dev room' is that I expect that this will not be 
> honored because it has too tight a scope. I spoke to one of the people of the 
> program committee last year, and I was advised to find a broader scope. 
> Alternatively we could request a dev room with other wiki engines (tikiwiki, 
> docuwiki, etc.). Personally I have no preference on which projects we would 
> cooperate with, just as long as we will make a proposal that will get us the 
> best chance to have a presence at FOSDEM 2010. Open to suggestions...

I spent a bit of time discussing this with you and a few of the FOSDEM
staff a while ago and this seems like the best way to do it.
 
> Additionally, I would like a reply from people interested in coordination of 
> the talks in this event. In case we would get a dev room together with the 
> other CMS/wiki projects, I would expect that we would have slots for ~4 talks 
> on MediaWiki, and possibly one or two talks in cooperation with the other 
> projects on common problems/solutions/whatever.

I will be coming to FOSDEM '10 and am interested in helping to
coordinate talks.

-- 
Robert Leverington
http://rhl.me.uk/


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database

2009-10-26 Thread 李琴
I used the RSS to get the page from the internet and I put it in MySql 
database.
 


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From: Liangent 
To: Wikimedia developers 
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:04:15 +0800
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database


what's the format of article data, xml dump or just plain text?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:01 PM, 李琴  wrote:

>
>  Hi,
> I have already got the article data from the wikipedia and I stored it
> on  my computer .Now I want to add the article to the local wiki.  I have
> done a lot of reaserches and I know that there are a lot of things to do.
> If add a record to the page table ,then the
> revision,recentchange,text,pagelink table and so on will be changed.So I
> think maybe there is a easy way to do that .
>
> Can you tell me what should I do ? Should I simply use
> 'insert,update,select...'words?
>
> Sincerely looking froward you help, thanks
>
> vanessa lee
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database

2009-10-26 Thread 李琴
I'm working inside mediawiki php,but I just beginning. Can you tell me when 
I finished editing a article and  clicked the save button,which variable 
takes the content of the edit box?
Or which function handles the rawText?

 Thanks 
  vanessa lee


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To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:18:47 +0200
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database


李琴 wrote:
>  Hi,
>  I have already got the article data from the wikipedia and I stored 
it 
> on  my computer .Now I want to add the article to the local wiki.  I have 
> done a lot of reaserches and I know that there are a lot of things to do.
> If add a record to the page table ,then the 
> revision,recentchange,text,pagelink table and so on will be changed.So I 
> think maybe there is a easy way to do that .
> 
> Can you tell me what should I do ? Should I simply use 
> 'insert,update,select...'words?
> 
> Sincerely looking froward you help, thanks 
> 
>  vanessa lee


If you're working inside mediawiki php.

$wgTitle = Title::newFromText( "MyArticle" );
$wgArticle = new Article( $wgTitle );
$wgArticle->insertNewArticle( "Some text", '', false, false );


If you don't want to work with php, use maintenance/importTextFile.php


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Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: [FOSDEM] News : Call For Developer Rooms

2009-10-26 Thread jeroen De Dauw
Hey,

I'll be present at FOSDEM 2010, and I'm willing to help out with MediaWiki 
related talks. 

I've also submitted a request for a lightning talk a while back. This one will 
be about (if it gets accepted) my Maps and Semantic Maps extensions.

If a devroom is allocated for MW talks, it'd me nice to have an SMW 
presentation, which if no one else feels like giving it, I'm willing to do.

 
Cheers

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Datamining infoboxes

2009-10-26 Thread Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:55, Andrew Dunbar  wrote:
> Have you thought about doing the same for Wiktionary?

Interesting idea. I don't know much about Wiktionary.
Are its pages structured similarly? How difficult would
it be to extract structured data from them? What kind
of data would you expect to extract?

I don't think there is much dictionary data on the Web
of Data yet, so extracting data from wiktionary may
be an interesting first step in that direction. We haven't
really thought about it yet, and it probably won't get to
the top of our to-do-list anytime soon, but it's an
interesting idea!


Christopher

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database

2009-10-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/10/26 李琴 :
> I'm working inside mediawiki php,but I just beginning. Can you tell me when
> I finished editing a article and  clicked the save button,which variable
> takes the content of the edit box?
> Or which function handles the rawText?
>
It's in $wgRequest->getVal('wpTextbox1'); I'm not sure you want to be
messing with EditPage's internals, though, because even most MediaWiki
developers think EditPage is scary.

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The State of Trunk

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Starling
Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> The only advantage I can see in a code freeze is to try forcing devs
> to spend their time fixing bugs instead of adding features. 

I think the devs who were already inclined to fix bugs will fix bugs,
and the rest of the devs will just have a holiday. We would be
crossing our fingers and hoping that they'd come back at the end of
the freeze.

So yes, I think the only way to do it is to branch and then to do a
campaign of bugfix merges. If we branch early, then there will be less
features to review and fix bugs in. If we branch later, then we get a
fully featured 1.16 release with a minimal divergence from trunk.
That's the trade-off as I see it.

Anyway, if nobody is going to work on reviewing and fixing Michael's
code other than me, then it's going to be a while yet before we're in
a fit state to branch. It became pretty clear during the recent staff
meeting that I'm going to be pretty busy during the next couple of
weeks. I have to:

* Review a ton of usability initiative code and oversee its deployment.
* Review some fundraising code and make sure that a copious number of
fixes get done, then have it ready to deploy within a week.
* Do some DBA work, since it seems that I'm the only staff member who
knows MySQL.
* Fulfill my commitment to have SecurePoll ready for an arbcom
election. Roger Davies has just sent me a list of features that he
wants implemented before Friday UTC.
* Move house (removalists coming on Friday)

So I certainly won't have any time to work on the rest of MediaWiki in
the next week, and maybe not in the week after that either.

-- Tim Starling


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Re: [Wikitech-l] The State of Trunk

2009-10-26 Thread Platonides
Tim Starling writes:
> So I certainly won't have any time to work on the rest of MediaWiki in
> the next week, and maybe not in the week after that either.
> 
> -- Tim Starling

Yup. It seems you'll be quite busy.
Can't another developer handle the fundraising code? Loks like the kind
of thing that don't need a special prior knowledge, not being relevant
*who* does it*. SecurePoll is also quite separate, but if you were with
it, it may be better that you go on with it.

*If it's someone competent and trustable, of course.



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Re: [Wikitech-l] The State of Trunk

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Starling
Platonides wrote:
> Can't another developer handle the fundraising code? Loks like the kind
> of thing that don't need a special prior knowledge, not being relevant
> *who* does it*. SecurePoll is also quite separate, but if you were with
> it, it may be better that you go on with it.
> 
> *If it's someone competent and trustable, of course.

Four Kitchens has been contracted to write the code, but they don't
have much experience with MediaWiki extensions, so they need a fair
bit of review and guidance. You can see the relevant code in
extensions/DonationInterface.

-- Tim Starling


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