Re: [Wikitech-l] Recompression results

2010-03-18 Thread Tim Starling
Platonides wrote:
 You mention on bug 22624 the possibility of normalising the entire 
 archive table to MW 1.5+ format.
 What are the chances of moving them back to revision and use revdelete 
 for all deletions (removing archive table)?
 
 See bugs 18104, 21279, 18780.

Can you copy that question to the bug report please? I don't want to
deal with it right now.

-- Tim Starling


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Cite extension- extra functionality

2010-03-18 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 20:48, Nimish Gautam ngau...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hey all,

 I wanted to change the cite extension to have some extra functionality.

 As citations have gotten more common, I've noticed an emerging use case
 where people will copy and paste text from wikipedia to HTML-enabled
 tools such as email clients or IM clients to share information.
 Unfortunately, those citation links just link to anchors on the page and
 don't provide anything useful when copied/pasted. Appending the full
 page's URL to those links would take like 20 seconds, make them
 functional, but would add extra markup to every page.  Anyone have any
 other good reasons why we shouldn't do this?

As Conrad pointed out using non-absolute URLs like this is by design
and not doing so would break other functionality.

What browser are you using and how are you copy-pasting the HTML from
the browser to your E-Mail/IM programs? If it's some feature where you
highlight a text on the page and the browser automatically fetches the
underlying HTML then not resolving anchor links on the page sounds
like a bug in that browser.

Are are you just viewing the source of the page and copy/pasting
snippets from there?

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[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Google Summer of Code Accepted!

2010-03-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi folks,

We've been accepted again for another Google Summer of Code!  What this
means:

*  Mentors:  please go to this page to formally apply to be a mentor:
http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/mentor/request/google/gsoc2010/wikimedia

Note: you can't officially be a mentor until you do this, and we can't do it
for you (part of it involves agreeing to the mentor agreement).

Question for the group: how many student slots do you think we should
request? On the advice for mentors page, it says: 

A good rule of thumb when finding and assigning mentors is to have two
mentors per student. It is also a good idea to have a spare mentor or two
who can pay attention to many students and keep track of the big picture.


Given our current list of mentors (we have 9 listed, plus 1 maybe), that
would give us 4 as the number of slots.  Does that seem like a number
that's both low enough that we can be reasonably confident we'll do a good
job mentoring, but high enough that we're not selling ourselves short?

*  Students: it's still not yet formally time to apply, but now is a really
good time to start brainstorming ideas, and getting clarifications on what's
already been suggested:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2010

While you may be tempted (from a competitive perspective) not to reveal what
your ideas are early, it is almost certainly going to be to your benefit to
engage now.  By engage, I mean demonstrate that you're really thinking
about how to improve MediaWiki and other Wikimedia project technologies, and
have the wherewithal to do it, not merely impress us with what skills you
have.  The more specific and thoughtful your ideas, questions, and
suggestions are, the more comfortable we'll all feel in selecting you.

You might want to take a peek at the GSoC student agreement now, since
you'll be required to agree to it as a precondition for being part of this
year's program:
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/studentagmt

Rob
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Google Summer of Code Accepted!

2010-03-18 Thread Chad
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@robla.net wrote:
 Hi folks,

 We've been accepted again for another Google Summer of Code!  What this
 means:

 *  Mentors:  please go to this page to formally apply to be a mentor:
 http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/mentor/request/google/gsoc2010/wikimedia

 Note: you can't officially be a mentor until you do this, and we can't do it
 for you (part of it involves agreeing to the mentor agreement).

 Question for the group: how many student slots do you think we should
 request? On the advice for mentors page, it says: 

 A good rule of thumb when finding and assigning mentors is to have two
 mentors per student. It is also a good idea to have a spare mentor or two
 who can pay attention to many students and keep track of the big picture.


 Given our current list of mentors (we have 9 listed, plus 1 maybe), that
 would give us 4 as the number of slots.  Does that seem like a number
 that's both low enough that we can be reasonably confident we'll do a good
 job mentoring, but high enough that we're not selling ourselves short?

 *  Students: it's still not yet formally time to apply, but now is a really
 good time to start brainstorming ideas, and getting clarifications on what's
 already been suggested:
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2010

 While you may be tempted (from a competitive perspective) not to reveal what
 your ideas are early, it is almost certainly going to be to your benefit to
 engage now.  By engage, I mean demonstrate that you're really thinking
 about how to improve MediaWiki and other Wikimedia project technologies, and
 have the wherewithal to do it, not merely impress us with what skills you
 have.  The more specific and thoughtful your ideas, questions, and
 suggestions are, the more comfortable we'll all feel in selecting you.

 You might want to take a peek at the GSoC student agreement now, since
 you'll be required to agree to it as a precondition for being part of this
 year's program:
 http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/studentagmt

 Rob
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+1. I can be a secondary mentor/general resource for students
to come to, I just hadn't put my name on the list.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-admin-l] 2010-03-11 01:10:08: enwiki Checksumming pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 :D

2010-03-18 Thread zh509
Hi, 

Firstly, congratulations for this! as i Know it has taken for a long time!

and May I ask a small question: what difference between current dump and 
history dump. I know current one only includes current edits, and history 
one has all edits as introduction said. More specifically, how different 
shows on one article? Can anyone explain it in detail, please?

Additionally, why all the statistics of Wikipedia only use history dump for 
analysis?

Thanks very much!

Zeyi


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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-admin-l] 2010-03-11 01:10:08: enwiki Checksumming pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 :D

2010-03-18 Thread Platonides
Zeyi wrote:
 Hi,

 Firstly, congratulations for this! as i Know it has taken for a long time!

 and May I ask a small question: what difference between current dump and
 history dump. I know current one only includes current edits, and history
 one has all edits as introduction said.

You have explained the difference perfectly :)

 More specifically, how different
 shows on one article? Can anyone explain it in detail, please?

It doesn't show the article. It's just a really really large bunch of 
wikitext separated by xml tags.
It is shown by a tool. If you just wwant to read the articles, you don't 
need histories.

 Additionally, why all the statistics of Wikipedia only use history dump for
 analysis?

Because they study things like changes made to articles, number of edits 
per time...

 Thanks very much!

You're welcome.



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