Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: or goes by with no comment. In fact, we should probably just enable it on mediawiki.org if there's no objection on list. Lets not? A. Stuff like this should be the same no matter where you are on the cluster B. The MW Wiki community is more the developer side of things so I doubt there is as many people having issues understanding it C. This whole lets test every little thing on MW Wiki seems misplaced, since we are a smaller more aimed project wiki (Development of MediaWiki and subsequent support) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool
I would name it Snuggle, so that it's in harmony with Huggle :) On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have done quite a bit of was Image modification. Everything from watermark removal to coping to rotating. When Im on a spur of watermark removal, it would be awesome if I could just point the program to a directory of fixed files, set a upload summary and have the bot upload those files keeping the existing file information. (that is the biggest drawback of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist ) John On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: As some of you are already aware, I'm doing for this GSoC a Desktop tool for conveniently uploading images to commons. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikilovesmonuments/2641 How can you help with this? a) Propose a cool name for this tool b) Suggest new functionalities/requisites Either on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Platonides/GSOC_proposal or in this thread. c) Volunteer for testing the program and giving early feedback (please reply directly to avoid spamming the mailing list with I can test it, too) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool
How will it be different than the commonist? geotagging would be one big feature and the ability to group photos with common tags would be useful! mike On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I would name it Snuggle, so that it's in harmony with Huggle :) On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have done quite a bit of was Image modification. Everything from watermark removal to coping to rotating. When Im on a spur ofH watermark removal, it would be awesome if I could just point the program to a directory of fixed files, set a upload summary and have the bot upload those files keeping the existing file information. (that is the biggest drawback of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist ) John On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: As some of you are already aware, I'm doing for this GSoC a Desktop tool for conveniently uploading images to commons. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikilovesmonuments/2641 How can you help with this? a) Propose a cool name for this tool b) Suggest new functionalities/requisites Either on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Platonides/GSOC_proposal or in this thread. c) Volunteer for testing the program and giving early feedback (please reply directly to avoid spamming the mailing list with I can test it, too) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
Tim Starling wrote: On 28/05/12 03:50, Raimond Spekking wrote: Since MediaWiki 1.18 we have the variable $wgUseCombinedLoginLink [1] which is set to true per default. During edit workshops with students and seniors I registered that new editors are confused about the combined login page. They tried to register new accounts on the login page. Surely, these observations are not representative but I think that the usability could be improved by setting $wgUseCombinedLoginLink=false If I missed a prior discussion about this issue I apologize and would be happy if someone could point me to the discussion. Otherwise I suggest to set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink to false for all WMF wikis. Can't it be set to false by default? They were combined to start with because the forms were combined. Then the developer who split the forms was too lazy to fix the skins, so for years, everyone who wanted to create an account was forced to click through the login page. I always figured it was a bug. Why would anyone want them combined? Someone might want the links combined if they present both the create account and login forms on the same page. Wikia used to do this. Twitter and Facebook do this currently at https://twitter.com/ and https://www.facebook.com when you're not logged in. This is not a reason to not flip the default on Wikimedia wikis, but it is perhaps a reason to keep the configuration variable around. I'll also note that creating an account is still considered a sub-type of logging in (Special:UserLogin?type=signup), though Special:CreateAccount properly redirects. I think it's a bit strange that they are not two separate forms completely (Special:UserLogin and Special:CreateAccount). MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
Am 28.05.2012 18:02, schrieb MZMcBride: Someone might want the links combined if they present both the create account and login forms on the same page. Wikia used to do this. Twitter and Facebook do this currently at https://twitter.com/ and https://www.facebook.com when you're not logged in. Yes, but both forms are better than our 2 forms because they have the input fields for login and registration on _one_ page. IMO more clearly for newbies. This is not a reason to not flip the default on Wikimedia wikis, but it is perhaps a reason to keep the configuration variable around. Sure, keep the config var for b/c. I'll also note that creating an account is still considered a sub-type of logging in (Special:UserLogin?type=signup), though Special:CreateAccount properly redirects. I think it's a bit strange that they are not two separate forms completely (Special:UserLogin and Special:CreateAccount). That's bug 15700 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15700 MZMcBride Raimond. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:18:26 -0700, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 28/05/12 03:50, Raimond Spekking wrote: Since MediaWiki 1.18 we have the variable $wgUseCombinedLoginLink [1] which is set to true per default. During edit workshops with students and seniors I registered that new editors are confused about the combined login page. They tried to register new accounts on the login page. Surely, these observations are not representative but I think that the usability could be improved by setting $wgUseCombinedLoginLink=false If I missed a prior discussion about this issue I apologize and would be happy if someone could point me to the discussion. Otherwise I suggest to set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink to false for all WMF wikis. Can't it be set to false by default? They were combined to start with because the forms were combined. Then the developer who split the forms was too lazy to fix the skins, so for years, everyone who wanted to create an account was forced to click through the login page. I always figured it was a bug. Why would anyone want them combined? -- Tim Starling +1 I created $wgUseCombinedLoginLink partially due to skinning where some skins want to have separate links to style in different ways (Skin has a method that lets a skin override the setting for itself) and also looking at a number of other websites and finding that we are practically the only website that does something like that. I set it to true by default because that was the current expected behavior and didn't want to bother with the usual backlash from the en.wp community whenever you touch anything to do with how MW looks or the markup it outputs. But if we have found a usability reason to have separate links then I see absolutely no reason to set it false by default on all wiki. In fact I'd almost say we could go ahead and delete the setting and make MW always have two separate links. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
On Mon, 28 May 2012 09:02:35 -0700, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Tim Starling wrote: On 28/05/12 03:50, Raimond Spekking wrote: Since MediaWiki 1.18 we have the variable $wgUseCombinedLoginLink [1] which is set to true per default. During edit workshops with students and seniors I registered that new editors are confused about the combined login page. They tried to register new accounts on the login page. Surely, these observations are not representative but I think that the usability could be improved by setting $wgUseCombinedLoginLink=false If I missed a prior discussion about this issue I apologize and would be happy if someone could point me to the discussion. Otherwise I suggest to set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink to false for all WMF wikis. Can't it be set to false by default? They were combined to start with because the forms were combined. Then the developer who split the forms was too lazy to fix the skins, so for years, everyone who wanted to create an account was forced to click through the login page. I always figured it was a bug. Why would anyone want them combined? Someone might want the links combined if they present both the create account and login forms on the same page. Wikia used to do this. Twitter and Facebook do this currently at https://twitter.com/ and https://www.facebook.com when you're not logged in. This is not a reason to not flip the default on Wikimedia wikis, but it is perhaps a reason to keep the configuration variable around. Facebook and Twitter do that on their homepage and don't even bother with login links. The design of those doesn't really fit discussion of login page links. - To have a combined form like that you have to create a brand new special page; you can't do that within our current Special:UserLogin - We don't provide a way to simply override the special page used for login links Hence with these two facts that means it's impossible to make an alternate login form without replacing stuff inside the personal_urls by using hooks and constructing your own arrays to put in the list. Wikia doesn't even bother with hooks, they just make core modifications for this stuff. So I don't believe this or anything Wikia does on the topic is a valid reason to keep the configuration setting around. It's not needed for those kind of modifications. Heck, it's because of one of Wikia's old skins that I split the links in the first place. I'll also note that creating an account is still considered a sub-type of logging in (Special:UserLogin?type=signup), though Special:CreateAccount properly redirects. I think it's a bit strange that they are not two separate forms completely (Special:UserLogin and Special:CreateAccount). MZMcBride I believe there are some backend bits that still link the two together. Though perhaps someone can still manage to make the create account form served from Special:CreateAccount while the backend is still in that state. Though, this area of MW has probably been overdue for an overhaul for awhile. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts them in a zip and puts that on archive.org https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_deleted.py here is an example output : http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05 http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/archive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data. Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using this category as feed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion More info https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Well I whould be happy for items like this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7 would it be possible to extract them easily? mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright issues, personal identifying data, etc. This makes maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here: http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page The dumps contain only data publically available at the time of the run, without deleted data. The articles aren't permanently deleted of course. The revisions texts live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for example, could be used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes. Ariel Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike Dupont έγραψε: Hi, I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based on the not notable criteria, is there any way we can extract them from the mysql binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be interested in setting up a mirror of deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism based on tags. mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: We now have three mirror sites, yay! The full list is linked to from http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps#Current_Mirrors Summarizing, we have: C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good dumps, Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with http/ftp/rsync access. Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the above sites for volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen. As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs per-project (excluding commons) is being generated. As soon as the first run of these is complete we'll announce its location and start generating them on a semi-regular basis. As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring setup, it is getting easier to add new locations. Know anyone interested? Please let us know; we would love to have them. Ariel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers | WikiTeam Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Xmldatadumps-l mailing list xmldatadump...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xmldatadumps-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: - To have a combined form like that you have to create a brand new special page; you can't do that within our current Special:UserLogin - We don't provide a way to simply override the special page used for login links Hence with these two facts that means it's impossible to make an alternate login form without replacing stuff inside the personal_urls by using hooks and constructing your own arrays to put in the list. Wikia doesn't even bother with hooks, they just make core modifications for this stuff. Just FYI, work is being done to decouple account creation from Special:UserLogin. The initial SignupAPI extension was a GSOC project, and it's currently undergoing code review etc. This should allow us to implement some long overdue improvements, such as: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34447 The relevant bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36225 Steven ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Set $wgUseCombinedLoginLink = false on WMF cluster?
On 28 May 2012 22:14, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: - To have a combined form like that you have to create a brand new special page; you can't do that within our current Special:UserLogin - We don't provide a way to simply override the special page used for login links Hence with these two facts that means it's impossible to make an alternate login form without replacing stuff inside the personal_urls by using hooks and constructing your own arrays to put in the list. Wikia doesn't even bother with hooks, they just make core modifications for this stuff. Just FYI, work is being done to decouple account creation from Special:UserLogin. The initial SignupAPI extension was a GSOC project, and it's currently undergoing code review etc. This should allow us to implement some long overdue improvements, such as: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34447 The relevant bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36225 This corner of MediaWiki is horrifically old and rusty; I tried a big refactoring a while ago but it broke CentralAuth and so got pulled a couple of times. I might have another go now we have labs up and running and we can easily set up a SUL domain to match the cluster's. SignupAPI basically copied mountains of code from LoginForm, IIRC; wasn't a real refactoring (could be mis-remembering though). --HM ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :) On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts them in a zip and puts that on archive.org https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_deleted.py here is an example output : http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05 http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/archive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data. Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using this category as feed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion More info https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Well I whould be happy for items like this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7 would it be possible to extract them easily? mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright issues, personal identifying data, etc. This makes maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here: http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page The dumps contain only data publically available at the time of the run, without deleted data. The articles aren't permanently deleted of course. The revisions texts live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for example, could be used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes. Ariel Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike Dupont έγραψε: Hi, I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based on the not notable criteria, is there any way we can extract them from the mysql binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be interested in setting up a mirror of deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism based on tags. mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: We now have three mirror sites, yay! The full list is linked to from http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps#Current_Mirrors Summarizing, we have: C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good dumps, Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with http/ftp/rsync access. Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the above sites for volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen. As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs per-project (excluding commons) is being generated. As soon as the first run of these is complete we'll announce its location and start generating them on a semi-regular basis. As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring setup, it is getting easier to add new locations. Know anyone interested? Please let us know; we would love to have them. Ariel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers | WikiTeam Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ ___ Xmldatadumps-l mailing list xmldatadump...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xmldatadumps-l -- James
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
Well, I have now updated the script to include the xml dump in raw format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at least a basic readme. other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history it seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version and rework it, I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for the first version. mike On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia ad...@alphacorp.tk wrote: This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :) On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts them in a zip and puts that on archive.org https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_deleted.py here is an example output : http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05 http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/archive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data. Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly. mike On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using this category as feed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion More info https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Well I whould be happy for items like this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7 would it be possible to extract them easily? mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright issues, personal identifying data, etc. This makes maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here: http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page The dumps contain only data publically available at the time of the run, without deleted data. The articles aren't permanently deleted of course. The revisions texts live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for example, could be used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes. Ariel Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike Dupont έγραψε: Hi, I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based on the not notable criteria, is there any way we can extract them from the mysql binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be interested in setting up a mirror of deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism based on tags. mike On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: We now have three mirror sites, yay! The full list is linked to from http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps#Current_Mirrors Summarizing, we have: C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good dumps, Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with http/ftp/rsync access. Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the above sites for volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen. As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs per-project (excluding commons) is being generated. As soon as the first run of these is complete we'll announce its location and start generating them on a semi-regular basis. As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring setup, it is getting easier to add new locations. Know anyone interested? Please let us know; we would love to have them. Ariel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
