Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support
Oh ok but all china needs is basic functions like editing and reading the page. and it would speed up the website because it would take less time to load the page on newer browsers then older ones. On Tuesday, 1 July 2014, 4:01, Daniel Norton dan...@danielnorton.com wrote: On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Thomas Mulhall thomasmulhall...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi but the users can I also get google chrome or Firefox or any other browsers. No, that’s not always true. Many websites in China work only with IE. (Not too long ago many government websites required IE6). ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia
I am unable to search using any of the options on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the advanced, everything, multimedia, or content pages search functions are working. All searches return the error An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia
Hello! Is working for me. I have only opened your link in Google chrome and searched for Android (search suggestions working, too) and click ok. After this I see the result page. Can you try to delete cache and cookies? What browser you use? Kind regards Florian Freundliche Grüße Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Pine W Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 18:26 An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia I am unable to search using any of the options on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the advanced, everything, multimedia, or content pages search functions are working. All searches return the error An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia
I'll have a look at it. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Florian Schmidt florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de wrote: Hello! Is working for me. I have only opened your link in Google chrome and searched for Android (search suggestions working, too) and click ok. After this I see the result page. Can you try to delete cache and cookies? What browser you use? Kind regards Florian Freundliche Grüße Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Pine W Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 18:26 An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia I am unable to search using any of the options on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the advanced, everything, multimedia, or content pages search functions are working. All searches return the error An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia
Hmmm - its working for me. The first couple of times I tried it was slow but it worked. I tried both search engine options (BetaFeature and default) and a bunch of different search options. We don't have good logs for the default search and that error message looks like it came from there. If it did and its gone now we'll have to chalk it up to a temporary blip in the old search system that we don't really understand very well. That's a painful thing to say, but the last time I poked that system trying to fix it I took out enwiki's search for half an hour while it warmed its caches. I try not to taunt it unless it is seriously broken. Failing on all searches certainly counts so if it does it again then please reply. The BetaFeature search log is only complaining about errors that I know about and am fixing, literally right now. Nik On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'll have a look at it. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Florian Schmidt florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de wrote: Hello! Is working for me. I have only opened your link in Google chrome and searched for Android (search suggestions working, too) and click ok. After this I see the result page. Can you try to delete cache and cookies? What browser you use? Kind regards Florian Freundliche Grüße Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Pine W Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 18:26 An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia I am unable to search using any of the options on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the advanced, everything, multimedia, or content pages search functions are working. All searches return the error An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia
I started IE and Special:Search worked there but was still failing for me in Firefox. After restarting Firefox search worked normally. I hope the search gnomes have found something else to do. Pine On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hmmm - its working for me. The first couple of times I tried it was slow but it worked. I tried both search engine options (BetaFeature and default) and a bunch of different search options. We don't have good logs for the default search and that error message looks like it came from there. If it did and its gone now we'll have to chalk it up to a temporary blip in the old search system that we don't really understand very well. That's a painful thing to say, but the last time I poked that system trying to fix it I took out enwiki's search for half an hour while it warmed its caches. I try not to taunt it unless it is seriously broken. Failing on all searches certainly counts so if it does it again then please reply. The BetaFeature search log is only complaining about errors that I know about and am fixing, literally right now. Nik On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'll have a look at it. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Florian Schmidt florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de wrote: Hello! Is working for me. I have only opened your link in Google chrome and searched for Android (search suggestions working, too) and click ok. After this I see the result page. Can you try to delete cache and cookies? What browser you use? Kind regards Florian Freundliche Grüße Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Pine W Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2014 18:26 An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: [Wikitech-l] Special:Search returning errors on English Wikipedia I am unable to search using any of the options on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search This came to my attention when a user reported that they were unable to search English Wikipedia's help files. It turns out that none of the advanced, everything, multimedia, or content pages search functions are working. All searches return the error An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error: Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating decision soon?
Ryan Kaldari recently wrote and said it was OK for me to forward: The Mobile web team finally dedicated some time to investigating Gabriel's Knockoff-Tassembly templating system. Specifically, I was tasked with answering the questions at https://trello.com/c/lYfyzs8A/6-spike-explore-knockoff-templating. The results of my investigation are at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library/Knockoff_-_Tassembly/Mobile_spike Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: In the meantime, some developers (such as the Mobile and Flow teams) have short-term needs that can't wait up for Knockoff to become a complete solution, and so are working out interim standardizations outside of this mailing list so that they can move forward while Knockoff work continues. The first iteration of the implementation has actually been complete for a while now, see Matt's mail here on April 14 [0]. There's a JS implementation of the KnockOff compiler [1] and JS [2] and PHP [3] implementations of the TAssembly runtime. We are waiting for feedback before starting the second iteration. At least the mobile team had plans for giving it a spin, but I have not heard about that since. For client-side templating you need ResourceLoader to supply the templates to the client. Jon Robson has developed the Mantle extension[1] that implements * a ResourceLoaderTemplateModule that does this * JS functions that abstract getting a template, compiling and caching it, and rendering it * specific implementations of these functions for the handlebars and hogan JS libraries. MobileFrontend and Flow will start using this shared code in production in the next few weeks or so. In order for Flow to share templates between front-end JS and server PHP, Flow has had to write helper functions in both JS and PHP[2]. Some like message i18n, human-friendly timestamps, escaping, etc. are more generic than others. These experiences in generalized JS template support and developing helper functions across JS and PHP could inform Knockoff development. Yes, large parts of this infrastructure will be useful with Knockoff / TAssembly as well. Should I be saying Knockoff or Knockout? From the RFC page, Gabriel WIcke Matthew Walker's Knockoff templates are KnockoutJS compatible. AIUI, GWMW have a JS compiler that compiles them into GWMW's Knockoff - Tassembly intermediate representation, and their goal is to to render templates in the latter format from both PHP and JavaScript. KnockOff is the KnockOut template to TAssembly compiler, while TAssembly is the JSON-based intermediate format with runtimes in JS PHP. In JavaScript you'd still load the Knockout JS for its reactive model-view updates. This is possible due to the shared template syntax, but not necessary. If reactivity is not needed performance / size is a priority then using the TAssembly runtime might make more sense. It's a lot smaller faster. KnockOff TAssembly are a part of the longer-term vision of moving to HTML as our primary content representation. I have started to draft a high-level overview at [4]. We (the new service team [5]) plan to explore this further in collaboration with the Parsoid team. Gabriel [0]: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-April/075995.html [1]: https://github.com/gwicke/knockoff [2]: https://github.com/gwicke/tassembly [3]: https://github.com/mattofak/knockoff [4]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/HTML_content_templating [5]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Service_and_REST_API_team ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Roadmap and deployment highlights - week of July 7th
Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the WMF Engineering Roadmap and Deployment update. This a special early in the week edition, so there might be more changes to the below plan than normal. The full log of planned deployments next week can be found at: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Week_of_July_7th A quick list of notable items... == Monday == * The mobile team will be submitting iOS app to AppStore ** There's an unknown review timeline from Apple * CirrusSearch ** CirrusSearch will be turned on as primary on Commons == Tuesday == * MediaWiki deploy ** group1 to 1.24wmf11: All non-Wikipedia sites (Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikiversity, and a few other sites) ** https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.24/wmf12 *** This will include the Support | as a magic word patch and thus ride the train *** see: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,136234,n,z == Wednesday == * CentralAuth GlobalRenameUser ** The new GlobalRenameUser tool will be enabled and usable. * CirrusSearch ** CirrusSearch will be turned on as primary on Spanish Wikipedia == Thursday == * MediaWiki deploy ** group2 to 1.24wmf12 (all Wikipedias) ** group0 to 1.24wmf13 (test/test2/testwikidata/mediawiki) Thanks and as always, questions and comments welcome, Greg -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @gregA18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D | signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmap and deployment highlights - week of July 7th
quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2014-07-02 time=15:26:14 -0700 == Monday == * The mobile team will be submitting iOS app to AppStore ** There's an unknown review timeline from Apple This was pushed back to July 14th, per: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-June/007485.html Told you there'd be more churn than normal :) Greg -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @gregA18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D | signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
