Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Petr Bena
One foundation to rule them all? :P

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and
 Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia
 starting in April. Because the initial part of this work will include
 researching options which will influence precise goals and this is yet to
 be done, we still can't commit to a precise timeline, but as a ballpark
 estimate I personally want to aim for serving PNG tiles at a reasonable,
 though not necessarily dynamic maps on every WP page scale by the end of
 Q4. Vector/multilingual maps would be the next stage. We will be mostly
 using Phabricator for planning,
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openstreetmap/ is my first pass on
 the outline of things to be done.

 Your comments and suggestions would be highly appreciated, please share
 your thoughts, ideas of projects that might use these maps, or just
 merciless critique! :D

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Quim Gil
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Kevin Wayne Williams 
kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com wrote:

 Danny Horn schreef op 2015/03/17 om 21:08:

  And I'm glad to hear that this thread has come close to almost inspiring
 optimism. That's what I'm here for.


 In a sample of one. Still, I guess one finds solace where one can.



While this feature has encountered and keeps encountering resistance and
opposition, it is also collecting adoption and enthusiasm, both in the
editing [1] and technical communities. Looking only at the dark or the
bright side of the picture helps nobody.

mediawiki.org has always been a place for technical experimentation and for
eating our own food. This is why LiquidThreads became a thing there, and
this is also why it makes sense to keep pushing Flow in that space. I
really care about newcomers and I think Flow is an essential piece for
onboarding them [1], but as a self-proclaimed experienced user of online
discussion tools, I also like Flow by its own merit. I praised wikitext
discussions, and I praised LQT discussions, but each on their own decade so
to say. Even if Flow is not perfect today, it improves every month, and I'd
rather help improving it than stopping it. [2]

This thread is clearly not a sample of one. I am personally delighted (and
I'm choosing carefully this word) with the work the Flow/Collaboration team
has been doing identifying what is an objective problem, pushing firmly but
flexibly a vision, and communicating (listening/speaking/acting) with all
their surroundings, release after release. They are listening and
responsive in an array of channels that probably none of us can enumerate.
I don't think there is any single relevant piece of feedback in all these
conversations that hasn't been translated to a Phabricator task, and I
don't think there is any relevant comment in any Flow task of Phabricator
that the maintainers haven't replied to, explaining their thoughts and
plans.

[1] For instance, last Autumn I participated with my volunteer hat in
Amical Wikimedia's annual meeting. This is a small but very active and well
organized community, and reaching out to new editors is their top priority.
They said that VisualEditor is now the essential piece in the many
workshops they organize, and they explaned that the new moment of confusion
is when they introduce the importance of discussions and collaboration.
Having to move from VisualEditor's familiar features and UI to a blank
space where equal signs, colons, and tildes are an essential requirement,
systematically confuses new editors. For this reason, and because
experienced editors can get away with some details when their primary goal
is to onboard future experienced editors, ca.wiki has been testing Flow for
a few months now, and they want it deployed to more pages and namespaces.
There, it's basically the Flow maintainers who are pushing the break.

[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/OouIbfQn0iB8/#R
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[Wikitech-l] RFC meeting this week

2015-03-18 Thread Tim Starling
In the next RFC meeting we will discuss the following RFC:

* Master  slave datacenter strategy for MediaWiki
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Master_%26_slave_datacenter_strategy_for_MediaWiki

The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on
chat.freenode.net at the following time:

* UTC: Wednesday 21:00
* US PDT: Wednesday 14:00
* Europe CET: Wednesday 22:00
* Australia AEDT: Thursday 08:00

-- Tim Starling


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[Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Max Semenik
Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and
Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia
starting in April. Because the initial part of this work will include
researching options which will influence precise goals and this is yet to
be done, we still can't commit to a precise timeline, but as a ballpark
estimate I personally want to aim for serving PNG tiles at a reasonable,
though not necessarily dynamic maps on every WP page scale by the end of
Q4. Vector/multilingual maps would be the next stage. We will be mostly
using Phabricator for planning,
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openstreetmap/ is my first pass on
the outline of things to be done.

Your comments and suggestions would be highly appreciated, please share
your thoughts, ideas of projects that might use these maps, or just
merciless critique! :D

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
Looks like just a collaboration :-)

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia

Obviously we should be doing our own tile rendering and serving, for example.


On 18 March 2015 at 09:09, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote:
 One foundation to rule them all? :P

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and
 Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia
 starting in April. Because the initial part of this work will include
 researching options which will influence precise goals and this is yet to
 be done, we still can't commit to a precise timeline, but as a ballpark
 estimate I personally want to aim for serving PNG tiles at a reasonable,
 though not necessarily dynamic maps on every WP page scale by the end of
 Q4. Vector/multilingual maps would be the next stage. We will be mostly
 using Phabricator for planning,
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openstreetmap/ is my first pass on
 the outline of things to be done.

 Your comments and suggestions would be highly appreciated, please share
 your thoughts, ideas of projects that might use these maps, or just
 merciless critique! :D

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Re: [Wikitech-l] regarding gsoc 2015

2015-03-18 Thread Quim Gil
Hi Arindam,

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Arindam Padhy b113...@iiit-bh.ac.in
wrote:

 hello
 i am a b.tech student pursuing my carrer at iiit bhubaneswar,india.
 i am deeply interested in gsoc 2015 and wanted to do a project under this
 organization.
 how should i proceed..??


Please go to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2015 and
check the project ideas proposed.


 do we need to solve any bugs..??


Yes, we are requiring candidates to solve microtasks as part of their
evaluation. Every project idea proposed has a list of suggested microtasks.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those
 two
 functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests server [1], and
 we're going to release it to Mediawiki soon.


 I ran some tests at
 http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Topic:Sdrqdcffddyz0jeo. Here are my
 observations:

- Posts B, C, and I all reply to A, but the ordering is C, I, B. I'd
expect replies to the same parent to be ordered chronologically (and I'd
personally expect earliest first).
- Posts B and C both reply to A, but are confusingly at different
indentation levels. I'd expect replies to the same parent to be indented
the same.
- Posts I and E are at the same indentation level, despite I being a
direct reply to A while E is at the end of the chain A→C→D→E. Similar
confusion exists elsewhere. I'd expect two posts at the first indentation
level under the same parent to both be replies to that parent.
- Things are even weirder with post J: Even though D and its reply E
are at the same indentation level, J is suddenly indented more because of
an unrelated post I.
- Things go completely wrong once we hit the maximum depth, it's
impossible to have (or only to be seen as having?) tangents at all. The
reply box doesn't even show up under the post where I actually clicked
Reply.

 All in all, I personally find the resulting structure to be very confusing
 as to what's actually replying to what since the same reply-structure might
 be displayed in different ways (depending on the order the replies were
 entered) and different reply-structures can give rise to the same
 display-structure.


(sorry for the self-reply)

Some of these might be solved by simply abandoning the idea that first
reply = main thread, all others = tangent in favor of displaying flat if
this post and its parent both have no sibling post.

That /would/ mean, though, that a single reply could result in a major
change to display-structure. For example, a reply-chain A→B→C→D→E→F→G would
be displayed flat, and then when someone posts B2 as a reply to A we'd have
A, then indented under it B and B2, then indented under B we'd have
C→D→E→F→G (which might still be displayed flat).

And there'd still be the case that a chain of replies and a single post
with multiple direct replies (none of which were replied to) could be
displayed the same in some cases, but that seems less likely to be
confusing to a reader.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Ricordisamoa

Also, some nice-to-have features:

 * provide View Source (showing the wikitext) of someone's post
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62465
 * post-edit diffs need a Thank link
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85846
 * Have WhatLinksHere show full information for Flow content
   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92571


Il 17/03/2015 11:05, Ricordisamoa ha scritto:

Hi Nick,
I'm glad the Foundation is finally valuing a usable discussion system.

Unfortunately, there are some serious issues with Flow which will 
prevent my use of it in production if not addressed in full:


 * Administrators *must* be able to to see a deleted Flow board without
   undeleting it (T90972 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90972)
 * Ordinary users *must* be able to move topics between boards (T88140
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88140)
 * Ordinary users *must* be able to edit AND move AND indent AND dedent
   other users' comments (T78253
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78253)
 * An arbitrary indentation level *must* be allowed, with optional
   facilitations for adding an {{outdent}}-like marker
 * Every basic functionality (including but not limited to the
   preview button) *must* work without relying on JavaScript (T60019
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60019)

I see that the implementation of many features was delayed at the 
initial stage of development, but they can't be ignored when trying to 
deploy such a software in production. Thank you.


Il 17/03/2015 01:51, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) ha scritto:

LiquidThreads (LQT) has not been well-supported in a long time. Flow
is in active development, and more real-world use-cases will help
focus attention on the higher-priority features that are needed. To
that end, LQT pages at mediawiki.org will start being converted to
Flow in the next couple of weeks.

There are about 1,600 existing LQT pages on Mediawiki, and the three
most active pages are VisualEditor/Feedback, Project:Support_desk, and
Help_talk:CirrusSearch.[1] The Collaboration team has been running
test conversions of those three pages, and fixing issues that have
come up. Those fixes are almost complete, and the team will be ready
to start converting LQT threads to Flow topics soon. (If you’re
interested in the progress, check out phab:T90788[2] and linked
tasks.) The latest set is visible at a labs test server.[3] See an
example topic comparison here: Flow vs LQT.[4])

The VisualEditor/Feedback page will be converted first (per James'
request), around the middle of next week. We’ll pause to assess any
high-priority changes required. After that, we will start converting
more pages. This process may take a couple of weeks to fully run.

The last page to be converted will be Project:Support_desk, as that is
the largest and most active LQT Board.

LQT Threads that are currently on your watchlist, will still be
watchlisted as Flow Topics. New Topics created at Flow Boards on your
watchlist will appear in your Echo notifications, and you can choose
whether or not to watchlist them.

The LQT namespaces will continue to exist. Links to posts/topics will
redirect appropriately, and the LQT history will remain available at
the original location, as well as being mirrored in the Flow history.

There’s a queue of new features in Flow that will be shipped over the
next month or so:

* Table of Contents is done
* Category support for Flow Header and Topics is done
* VE with editing toolbar coming last week of March (phab:T90763) [5]
* Editing other people’s comments coming last week of March 
(phab:T91086)

* Ability to change the width  side rail in progress, probably out in
April (phab:T88114])
* Search is in progress (no ETA yet) (phab:T76823)
* The ability to choose which Flow notifications end up in Echo,
watchlist, or both, and other more powerful options, will be coming up
next (no ETA yet)

That being said -- there are some LiquidThreads features that don’t
exist in Flow yet.
We’d like to hear which features you use on the current LQT boards,
and that you’re concerned about losing in the Flow conversion. At the
same time, we’d like further suggestions on how we could improve upon
that (or other) features from LQT.

Please give us feedback at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Sdoatsbslsafx6lw to keep it
centralized, and test freely at the sandbox.[6]

Much thanks, on behalf of the Collaboration Team,
Quiddity (WMF)

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Feedback and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:CirrusSearch and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk
[2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90788
[3] http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Testwiki:Support_desk and
http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Feedback
[4] http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Topic:Qmkwqmp0wfcazy9c and
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Error_creating_thumbnail:_Unable_to_save_thumbnail_to_destination 


[5] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90763 ,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those two
 functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests server [1], and
 we're going to release it to Mediawiki soon.


I ran some tests at
http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Topic:Sdrqdcffddyz0jeo. Here are my
observations:

   - Posts B, C, and I all reply to A, but the ordering is C, I, B. I'd
   expect replies to the same parent to be ordered chronologically (and I'd
   personally expect earliest first).
   - Posts B and C both reply to A, but are confusingly at different
   indentation levels. I'd expect replies to the same parent to be indented
   the same.
   - Posts I and E are at the same indentation level, despite I being a
   direct reply to A while E is at the end of the chain A→C→D→E. Similar
   confusion exists elsewhere. I'd expect two posts at the first indentation
   level under the same parent to both be replies to that parent.
   - Things are even weirder with post J: Even though D and its reply E are
   at the same indentation level, J is suddenly indented more because of an
   unrelated post I.
   - Things go completely wrong once we hit the maximum depth, it's
   impossible to have (or only to be seen as having?) tangents at all. The
   reply box doesn't even show up under the post where I actually clicked
   Reply.

All in all, I personally find the resulting structure to be very confusing
as to what's actually replying to what since the same reply-structure might
be displayed in different ways (depending on the order the replies were
entered) and different reply-structures can give rise to the same
display-structure.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Pine W
Glad to hear of this idea. We've discussed potential collaborations with
OSM in Cascadia Wikimedians meetings.

Pine
On Mar 18, 2015 2:08 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and
 Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia
 starting in April. Because the initial part of this work will include
 researching options which will influence precise goals and this is yet to
 be done, we still can't commit to a precise timeline, but as a ballpark
 estimate I personally want to aim for serving PNG tiles at a reasonable,
 though not necessarily dynamic maps on every WP page scale by the end of
 Q4. Vector/multilingual maps would be the next stage. We will be mostly
 using Phabricator for planning,
 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openstreetmap/ is my first pass on
 the outline of things to be done.

 Your comments and suggestions would be highly appreciated, please share
 your thoughts, ideas of projects that might use these maps, or just
 merciless critique! :D

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Helder .
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those two
 functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests server [1], and
 we're going to release it to Mediawiki soon.


 I ran some tests at
 http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Topic:Sdrqdcffddyz0jeo. Here are my
 observations:
 ...

These look like the same problems reported last week on this thread:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WP:Esplanada/propostas/Flow_na_Wikip%C3%A9dia:Contato_%285mar2015%29oldid=41541009

Best regards,
Helder

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Re: [Wikitech-l] looking for unit testing resources for bot development

2015-03-18 Thread Ricordisamoa

Il 17/03/2015 20:45, Frances Hocutt ha scritto:

I'm working on cleaning up the code[1] for GrantsBot[2] and generally
getting it into better and more robust shape. I've started writing basic
unit tests to assist in the refactoring process. Since it interacts so
heavily with the MediaWiki API, however, this isn't a straightforward
process, and it's even more complicated because I'll be rewriting it to use
a different client library (so any mocks/stubs I include will need to be
rewritten). Does anyone have thoughts on the best strategy for this, or,
more generally, pointers to good resources for writing unit tests for API
clients?

-Frances

[1] dev branch: https://github.com/fhocutt/grantsbot/tree/dev
[2] a bot run by Community Resources to maintain the IdeaLab on MetaWiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:GrantsBot
If you're using Pywikibot, you may want to have a look at its extensive 
unit tests :)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Max Semenik
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:01 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 I believe OpenStreetMap previously had a relationship with Wikimedia
 Germany and the Toolserver(?). I'm not sure if that endeavor is related to
 this one. And I'm not sure what the scopes of these projects are.


Toolserver's gone, right?


 It looks like this new project would be the Wikimedia Foundation acting as
 both the (tile)server and the client, using data from OpenStreetMap. Is
 that correct?


Yes.


 If so, will the tileserver be considered a public service
 for use outside of Wikimedia wikis?


TBD.


 And will this service be hosted on
 Wikimedia Labs?


No, on real hardware.


 Expanding the mediawiki.org and Meta-Wiki pages to include more
 information about the history here would be great.


Hey, we're still working on fulfilling our previous commitments. Everything
will come, just not instantaneously;)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-18 Thread Danny Horn
Brad: unfortunately, it's really hard to tell very much from a conversation
with messages like 3: Post C: reply to Post A. You could do that with the
old model, the new model or the perfect magic Nobel-Prize-winning
discussion threading still to be discovered, and it would probably look
like nonsense in all three.

We've tried in our testing to pretend that we're having real conversations,
so we could see whether there's any logical way to get to eight levels of
nested threading. It's not easy to organize make-believe conversations, but
if you want to start a thread, I'd be happy to fire up a few sockpuppets
and pretend to talk about something with you.



On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
 bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Danny Horn dh...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
  So we've figured out a new reply/indentation model that separates those
  two
  functions. We've been testing it out on the flow-tests server [1], and
  we're going to release it to Mediawiki soon.
 
 
  I ran some tests at
  http://flow-tests.wmflabs.org/wiki/Topic:Sdrqdcffddyz0jeo. Here are my
  observations:
 
 - Posts B, C, and I all reply to A, but the ordering is C, I, B. I'd
 expect replies to the same parent to be ordered chronologically (and
 I'd
 personally expect earliest first).
 - Posts B and C both reply to A, but are confusingly at different
 indentation levels. I'd expect replies to the same parent to be
 indented
 the same.
 - Posts I and E are at the same indentation level, despite I being a
 direct reply to A while E is at the end of the chain A→C→D→E. Similar
 confusion exists elsewhere. I'd expect two posts at the first
 indentation
 level under the same parent to both be replies to that parent.
 - Things are even weirder with post J: Even though D and its reply E
 are at the same indentation level, J is suddenly indented more
 because of
 an unrelated post I.
 - Things go completely wrong once we hit the maximum depth, it's
 impossible to have (or only to be seen as having?) tangents at all.
 The
 reply box doesn't even show up under the post where I actually clicked
 Reply.
 
  All in all, I personally find the resulting structure to be very
 confusing
  as to what's actually replying to what since the same reply-structure
 might
  be displayed in different ways (depending on the order the replies were
  entered) and different reply-structures can give rise to the same
  display-structure.
 

 (sorry for the self-reply)

 Some of these might be solved by simply abandoning the idea that first
 reply = main thread, all others = tangent in favor of displaying flat if
 this post and its parent both have no sibling post.

 That /would/ mean, though, that a single reply could result in a major
 change to display-structure. For example, a reply-chain A→B→C→D→E→F→G would
 be displayed flat, and then when someone posts B2 as a reply to A we'd have
 A, then indented under it B and B2, then indented under B we'd have
 C→D→E→F→G (which might still be displayed flat).

 And there'd still be the case that a chain of replies and a single post
 with multiple direct replies (none of which were replied to) could be
 displayed the same in some cases, but that seems less likely to be
 confusing to a reader.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote:
Looks like just a collaboration :-)

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia

Obviously we should be doing our own tile rendering and serving, for
example.

Thanks for these links.

I believe OpenStreetMap previously had a relationship with Wikimedia
Germany and the Toolserver(?). I'm not sure if that endeavor is related to
this one. And I'm not sure what the scopes of these projects are.

It looks like this new project would be the Wikimedia Foundation acting as
both the (tile)server and the client, using data from OpenStreetMap. Is
that correct? If so, will the tileserver be considered a public service
for use outside of Wikimedia wikis? And will this service be hosted on
Wikimedia Labs?

Expanding the mediawiki.org and Meta-Wiki pages to include more
information about the history here would be great.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] regarding gsoc 2015

2015-03-18 Thread Niharika Kohli
Hello Arindam,

There are 3 different ideas listed under Mediawiki extensions on 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Possible_projects 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Possible_projects 

If you click on these, you’ll see a Phabricator task which explains the idea 
and suggests some microtasks that a prospective student should work on. You can 
start working on the one(s) you find interesting. Also, you can start writing a 
proposal for the project you want to work on. How to write a proposal is 
explained on the page linked above itself. 

Thank you!
Niharika. 

 On Mar 18, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Arindam Padhy b113...@iiit-bh.ac.in wrote:
 
 i am interested in the mediawiki extensions idea proposed by the org.
 what should i do next...??
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
 Hi Arindam,
 
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Arindam Padhy b113...@iiit-bh.ac.in
 wrote:
 
 hello
 i am a b.tech student pursuing my carrer at iiit bhubaneswar,india.
 i am deeply interested in gsoc 2015 and wanted to do a project under this
 organization.
 how should i proceed..??
 
 
 Please go to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2015 and
 check the project ideas proposed.
 
 
 do we need to solve any bugs..??
 
 
 Yes, we are requiring candidates to solve microtasks as part of their
 evaluation. Every project idea proposed has a list of suggested microtasks.
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