Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-11 Thread Small M
One of the demo collections originally shown in pivot was wikipedia article's 
sorted by category. Though the collections are no longer up, you can see videos 
at:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZuFUZpEZ-A?t=2m30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxCvdoXpwM

It was done before (albeit using a dedicated viewer which is now a silverlight 
control). So it can be done. 

-Small




 From: Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com
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On 2013-04-10 10:25 PM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello,


 Are there any plans to have a tool that would allow to dynamically sort 
 content based on category? Single category views, especially for large 
 categories, aren't particularly helpful.


 Something similar to what Microsoft's pivot demo had?

 An HTML5 example at:
 http://pivot.lobsterpot.com.au/pass2012.htm

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No, there are no current plans for doing this. Interesting idea though. If I 
understand you correctly you want a category page where things are grouped by 
what other categories a page is a member of.
I don't think such a thing can be done in an efficient manner for big 
categories given the way category membership is currently stored.
-bawolff
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-11 Thread Small M
There's an article for Microsoft Pivot at [1] . Originally it was a standalone 
application (which is no longer supported), and now is a silverlight control 
(PivotViewer). HTML5 is usually preferred to plugins, so some made an HTML5 
version at [2]. Sorry for the confusion.

The collections used for Pivot were snapshots. Even with monthly/bi-monthly 
snapshots, this form of visualization would be better than the current one.

Are there any current tools that allow for this type of category 
intersection/joining? 

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Live_Labs_Pivot
[2] http://lobsterpothtml5pv.codeplex.com/


-Small




 From: Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com
To: Small M smallma...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category
 


On Apr 11, 2013 10:56 AM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It was done before (albeit using a dedicated viewer which is now a 
 silverlight control). So it can be done.
First a warning: I can't imagine a MediaWiki feature ever being enabled on WMF 
wikis if it works only with silverlight. And you said HTML5 demo. One of the 
points of HTML5 is to move away from plugins. So this is confusing. Or maybe 
there are 2 unrelated demos (a silverlight and an HTML5)
I believe Brian's point was: this sort of feature would require access to raw 
category data in a format that doesn't currently exist. (but can be generated 
from existing data) If you've seen it done then what you've seen is probably 
based on a snapshot in time (maybe from a dump) not from the live, current 
state of a WMF wiki.
-Jeremy
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[Wikitech-l] Sort on category

2013-04-10 Thread Small M
Hello,


Are there any plans to have a tool that would allow to dynamically sort content 
based on category? Single category views, especially for large categories, 
aren't particularly helpful.


Something similar to what Microsoft's pivot demo had?

An HTML5 example at:
http://pivot.lobsterpot.com.au/pass2012.htm

-Small
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[Wikitech-l] API data push/pull guidelines

2013-02-02 Thread Small M
Hello,

There is a lack of guidelines regarding the rate at the mediawiki API may be 
used.

Specifically for the enwiki and commons api (if it doesn't matter, please say 
so):

For bots:

Are simultaneous uploads permitted? E.g. uploading 3 20MB files simultaneously 
to the commons on a 1Gbit/s line. What is the max rate permitted?

I was recommended at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44584 to 
post to this mailing list.

-Small


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