Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category
One of the demo collections originally shown in pivot was wikipedia article's sorted by category. Though the collections are no longer up, you can see videos at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZuFUZpEZ-A?t=2m30s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxCvdoXpwM It was done before (albeit using a dedicated viewer which is now a silverlight control). So it can be done. -Small From: Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com To: Small M smallma...@yahoo.com; wikitech-l wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category On 2013-04-10 10:25 PM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, Are there any plans to have a tool that would allow to dynamically sort content based on category? Single category views, especially for large categories, aren't particularly helpful. Something similar to what Microsoft's pivot demo had? An HTML5 example at: http://pivot.lobsterpot.com.au/pass2012.htm -Small ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l No, there are no current plans for doing this. Interesting idea though. If I understand you correctly you want a category page where things are grouped by what other categories a page is a member of. I don't think such a thing can be done in an efficient manner for big categories given the way category membership is currently stored. -bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category
There's an article for Microsoft Pivot at [1] . Originally it was a standalone application (which is no longer supported), and now is a silverlight control (PivotViewer). HTML5 is usually preferred to plugins, so some made an HTML5 version at [2]. Sorry for the confusion. The collections used for Pivot were snapshots. Even with monthly/bi-monthly snapshots, this form of visualization would be better than the current one. Are there any current tools that allow for this type of category intersection/joining? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Live_Labs_Pivot [2] http://lobsterpothtml5pv.codeplex.com/ -Small From: Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com To: Small M smallma...@yahoo.com Cc: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Sort on category On Apr 11, 2013 10:56 AM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote: It was done before (albeit using a dedicated viewer which is now a silverlight control). So it can be done. First a warning: I can't imagine a MediaWiki feature ever being enabled on WMF wikis if it works only with silverlight. And you said HTML5 demo. One of the points of HTML5 is to move away from plugins. So this is confusing. Or maybe there are 2 unrelated demos (a silverlight and an HTML5) I believe Brian's point was: this sort of feature would require access to raw category data in a format that doesn't currently exist. (but can be generated from existing data) If you've seen it done then what you've seen is probably based on a snapshot in time (maybe from a dump) not from the live, current state of a WMF wiki. -Jeremy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Sort on category
Hello, Are there any plans to have a tool that would allow to dynamically sort content based on category? Single category views, especially for large categories, aren't particularly helpful. Something similar to what Microsoft's pivot demo had? An HTML5 example at: http://pivot.lobsterpot.com.au/pass2012.htm -Small ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] API data push/pull guidelines
Hello, There is a lack of guidelines regarding the rate at the mediawiki API may be used. Specifically for the enwiki and commons api (if it doesn't matter, please say so): For bots: Are simultaneous uploads permitted? E.g. uploading 3 20MB files simultaneously to the commons on a 1Gbit/s line. What is the max rate permitted? I was recommended at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44584 to post to this mailing list. -Small ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l