Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Humans vs bots: 0:1
2011/2/3 John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: snip This was a human mistake and it was reverted later. However, there seems to be no way to tell all the interwiki bots running to stop re-adding this removed link to articles. Yeah, all you need to do is remove the incorrect links from all affected articles. Of course, the right way to solve this problem once and for all is to fix bug 15607 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 Installing the Interlanguage extension will revolutionize the way humans fight bots. What is currently stopping the developers from implementing it? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Humans vs bots: 0:1
The first issue is indeed that the wrong interwiki has to be removed
on _all_ languages to stop it from returning, but even with that one
could still get into problems because there might be bots that visited
some languages _before_ your removal, and others _after_ it. They
would then consider the wrong interwiki to be a missing one on the
languages visited afterward, and re-add them there.
Working with {{nobots}} as you have done is not a good solution, I
think. Adding it on the Polish page could be justified, but on the
English one it also stops a good amount of correct edits.
This particular issue I have now resolved by finding that there is a
Dutch page on the same subject as the Polish one, and adding an
interwiki to that one. This way, even if someone mistakenly adds the
incorrect link again, for the bots this will lead to an interwiki
conflict, so they will not automatically propagate the wrong link any
more.
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André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Humans vs bots: 0:1
Yeah, all you need to do is remove the incorrect links from all affected
articles.
You sorta did that with -localright. however that just fixed the correct
article but still left some articles pointing to the wrong article. you need
to fix every article, as long as one page has the wrong link it will be
propagated back
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
(cross posted to wikitech-l)
Hello,
Recently we have found a case of incorrect interwiki entry linking
[[:pl:Aktywizm]]
describing philosophical concept with family of the articles on other
Wikipedias
regarding political activism.
This was a human mistake and it was reverted later. However, there seems
to be no way to tell all the interwiki bots running to stop re-adding this
removed link to articles.
I have added {{nobots}} on the Polish and English Wikipedia to prevent
spreading of incorrect linking. I have tried from time to time to use
my own pywikipedia bot to remove the link (using -localright option)
and the result is the following:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/wiki/Activism?action=history
(Saperka is my script)
I spoke with the owner of WikitanvirBot and we have stopped it for
a while completely to allow the undo script run and remove the links.
Unfortunately, some other bot (
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/w/index.php?title=Activismdiff=5071856oldid=5071793
)
changed the link again.
It seems like it is not possible to revert one mistake unless
ALL running interwiki bots will be stopped by their owners.
Sounds like an overkill (and imagine coordinating this!).
Is there some way interwiki.py could be improved (I know it should be
all different architecture) or some other way to handle this
- one could imagine - simple case?
Or are we now overtaken by robots beyond our control? :)
//Saper
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Humans vs bots: 0:1
The issues should be fixed, if you continue to have issues let me know ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Humans vs bots: 0:1
Zawartość nagłówka [Followup-To: gmane.comp.python.pywikipediabot.general.]
John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, all you need to do is remove the incorrect links from all affected
articles.
You sorta did that with -localright. however that just fixed the correct
article but still left some articles pointing to the wrong article. you need
to fix every article, as long as one page has the wrong link it will be
propagated back
On 22nd somebody readded those links manually because article was reconstructed.
But earlier, after this revert:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/w/index.php?title=Aktywizmdiff=25027755oldid=25014331
I tried to use pywiki interwiki.py to remove 'pl' by making sure [[en:Activism]]
has no pl: link (enforced by {{nobots}}), [[pl:Aktywizm]] has no interwiki links
(enforced by {{nobots}}) and running interwiki.py -localright poiting to
en:Activism
to remove it on all other wikis. But this got reverted again in few minutes
by the bots running.
Sure, after this:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/w/index.php?title=Aktywizmdiff=25078310oldid=25028009
you can't reproduce this anymore, but this is pretty strange.
//Saper
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