Re: [Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
I would also suggest you take a trick from the VE book, and rather than wait for key events, use an interval timer to inspect the value of the input box and if it's changed do a lookup. This is because in some browsers, like Firefox and Opera, there are no key events during IME. - Trevor On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > > A few issues with country-based anything: > > > > And of course: > * the data needs to be maintained somehow > > -- brion > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > A few issues with country-based anything: > And of course: * the data needs to be maintained somehow -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
I'm still a bit leery of country-based selectors, though a good design may work. I've added some notes about autocomplete-based selectors here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_Language_Selector_Mobile#Universal_Language_Picker I have a live mockup: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/mockups/lang-selector/index.html which does a simple autocomplete search based on language code, local name, or English name transparently. In my ad-hoc testing, most languages I tried for came up within two or three characters of the English name (or English-keyboard-typable local name); this might not be a bad way to go in a lot of places. A few issues with country-based anything: * 'spoken in' vs 'widely spoken in', 'native to', etc means that depending where you get your data, you might have a hundred languages listed under 'United States' which won't be much more useful. * country divisions are political minefields: consider 'region' :) (Taiwan -- country or part of China? Or all of China? Depends who you ask.) * some languages are not cleanly associated with a country, but sort of muddle around on the borders between them. With small minority languages these can add up, again perhaps clogging the user interface with extra options that we want to expose, but shouldn't be in the way. * some languages have no territory. Latin? Esperanto? Interlingua? If in a primarily country-based system, then we have to figure out how to shoehorn in extra categories. -- brion On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Alolita Sharma wrote: > Arun, > > Thanks for posting your latest design proposal on the mobile language > selector and working on this at the Pune hackathon. > > Look forward to community discussion and feedback. > > Alolita > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Arun Ganesh >wrote: > > > I have documented the proposal for the language selector on mobile that > was > > worked on during the Pune hackathon. The current method of selecting from > > an unordered list of 250+ languages is not useful or helpful. This may > not > > be the best solution but will definitely help for a vast majority of > > cases. Do give feedback on the talk page: > > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector_Mobile > > > > -- > > j.mp/ArunGanesh > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
Arun, Thanks for posting your latest design proposal on the mobile language selector and working on this at the Pune hackathon. Look forward to community discussion and feedback. Alolita On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Arun Ganesh wrote: > I have documented the proposal for the language selector on mobile that was > worked on during the Pune hackathon. The current method of selecting from > an unordered list of 250+ languages is not useful or helpful. This may not > be the best solution but will definitely help for a vast majority of > cases. Do give feedback on the talk page: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector_Mobile > > -- > j.mp/ArunGanesh > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
I have documented the proposal for the language selector on mobile that was worked on during the Pune hackathon. The current method of selecting from an unordered list of 250+ languages is not useful or helpful. This may not be the best solution but will definitely help for a vast majority of cases. Do give feedback on the talk page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector_Mobile -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l