[Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
There is no mention of this feature in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback but according to Helder in this bug report https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66273 mediawiki insert every page to which a rollback api was used on to a users watchlist. Is there a way to disable it? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
This seems to be a MW bug. Ever since we updated our wiki to MW 1.23, this has been happening to lots of our users, myself included. Apparently, the option to add pages edited to the watchlist is checked by default, which probably needs to be disabled by default. Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:57:17 +0200 From: benap...@gmail.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist There is no mention of this feature in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback but according to Helder in this bug report https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66273 mediawiki insert every page to which a rollback api was used on to a users watchlist. Is there a way to disable it? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
Arcane 21 wrote: This seems to be a MW bug. Ever since we updated our wiki to MW 1.23, this has been happening to lots of our users, myself included. Apparently, the option to add pages edited to the watchlist is checked by default, which probably needs to be disabled by default. I believe this user preferences default change was intentional. On smaller MediaWiki installations (which is most of them), the new default behavior typically makes a lot of sense, as I understand it. However, treating rollback as the same as a manual edit probably needs further thought. And sysadmins of larger wiki installations probably want to re-visit whether the user preferences defaults are appropriate for their communities. MZMcBride ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
On Jun 10, 2014 9:18 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: And sysadmins of larger wiki installations probably want to re-visit whether the user preferences defaults are appropriate for their communities. They also may wan to consider reading the release announcement emails… (e.g. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2014-June/000152.html ) -Jeremy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
Thanks for the reminder. However, I think that not all those settings are not necessarily good, and here's why: * (bug 45020) Make preferences Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist and pages and files I edit true by default. This seems to be the default on Wikia, which I have also used, but not everyone wants to do thus. I personally only like to use a watchlist to keep track of select pages instead of every page I edit, so I find this default irritating. * (bug 45022) Make preference Email me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed true by default. This is a good idea. * (bug 49719) Watch user page and user talk page by default. This will allow your new users to immediately start benefiting from the watchlist and email notification features, without needing to first read all the docs to find out that they're as useful as they are. This is a good idea. In short, the first setting strikes me as bad, but I think the other two are good ideas. Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:22:26 + From: jer...@tuxmachine.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist On Jun 10, 2014 9:18 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: And sysadmins of larger wiki installations probably want to re-visit whether the user preferences defaults are appropriate for their communities. They also may wan to consider reading the release announcement emails… (e.g. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2014-June/000152.html ) -Jeremy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is no mention of this feature in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback Unfortunately, the documentation on mediawiki.org is sometimes out of date. Please feel free to update it. but according to Helder in this bug report https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66273 mediawiki insert every page to which a rollback api was used on to a users watchlist. Is there a way to disable it? Try using watchlist=nochange with action=rollback, rather than the default watchlist=preferences, as Helder suggested in comment 8 on that bug. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote: I personally only like to use a watchlist to keep track of select pages instead of every page I edit, so I find this default irritating. Then change the preference. That's what preferences are *for*. The default value for a preference should be what newbies will find most useful. Experienced users should already know about preferences and how to change them. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist
That's what I needed - I prefer using documentation rather than random options :) Thanks On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is no mention of this feature in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback Unfortunately, the documentation on mediawiki.org is sometimes out of date. Please feel free to update it. but according to Helder in this bug report https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66273 mediawiki insert every page to which a rollback api was used on to a users watchlist. Is there a way to disable it? Try using watchlist=nochange with action=rollback, rather than the default watchlist=preferences, as Helder suggested in comment 8 on that bug. -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
