Re: [Wikitech-l] Purging parts of varnish cache
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > ESI for older browsers, and JavaScript otherwise are still on the table, > but that's orthogonal to the varnish cache purge -- if we use ESI, the > banner will be cached and will need to be purged. If we use JavaScript, the > JSON configuration blob will need to be purged. The only difference is the > actual "purging expression". > For sure; I just wanted to make sure. While practically these may be orthogonal, purging full pages is less desirable than purging html chunks for banners so approaching the problem with this in mind might make it all more palatable. -- Arthur Richards Software Engineer, Mobile [[User:Awjrichards]] IRC: awjr +1-415-839-6885 x6687 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Purging parts of varnish cache
ESI for older browsers, and JavaScript otherwise are still on the table, but that's orthogonal to the varnish cache purge -- if we use ESI, the banner will be cached and will need to be purged. If we use JavaScript, the JSON configuration blob will need to be purged. The only difference is the actual "purging expression". On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Arthur Richards wrote: > Previously we had spoken about implementing partial page caching (ESI) for > Zero so we could remove X-CS variance for article content and use it only > for partner banners. Is this still being pursued? > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Yuri Astrakhan >wrote: > > > Hi, when we edit Zero configuration, it would be very beneficial to flush > > any cached pages in varnish that are related to the change. > > > > For example, if I edit Beeline's banner settings, any objects with the > > header X-CS=250-99 should be purged, hopefully without any additional > > manual interaction. Without this purge, the cache will be stale for the > > next 30 days for the most common articles. > > > > Now, according to the > > http://giantdorks.org/alain/exploring-methods-to-purge-varnish-cache/, > > varnish has an extensive matching support, and the author provides some > > PHP-based code to perform the cache flushing. What would we need to > > implement secure, automated partial varnish flushing in production? > > > > Thanks! > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > -- > Arthur Richards > Software Engineer, Mobile > [[User:Awjrichards]] > IRC: awjr > +1-415-839-6885 x6687 > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Purging parts of varnish cache
Previously we had spoken about implementing partial page caching (ESI) for Zero so we could remove X-CS variance for article content and use it only for partner banners. Is this still being pursued? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Hi, when we edit Zero configuration, it would be very beneficial to flush > any cached pages in varnish that are related to the change. > > For example, if I edit Beeline's banner settings, any objects with the > header X-CS=250-99 should be purged, hopefully without any additional > manual interaction. Without this purge, the cache will be stale for the > next 30 days for the most common articles. > > Now, according to the > http://giantdorks.org/alain/exploring-methods-to-purge-varnish-cache/, > varnish has an extensive matching support, and the author provides some > PHP-based code to perform the cache flushing. What would we need to > implement secure, automated partial varnish flushing in production? > > Thanks! > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Arthur Richards Software Engineer, Mobile [[User:Awjrichards]] IRC: awjr +1-415-839-6885 x6687 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Purging parts of varnish cache
Hi, when we edit Zero configuration, it would be very beneficial to flush any cached pages in varnish that are related to the change. For example, if I edit Beeline's banner settings, any objects with the header X-CS=250-99 should be purged, hopefully without any additional manual interaction. Without this purge, the cache will be stale for the next 30 days for the most common articles. Now, according to the http://giantdorks.org/alain/exploring-methods-to-purge-varnish-cache/, varnish has an extensive matching support, and the author provides some PHP-based code to perform the cache flushing. What would we need to implement secure, automated partial varnish flushing in production? Thanks! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
