Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/04/12 02:08, Andrew Garrett wrote:
> *I* rewrote the preference system, and my proposed patch for global
> preferences was part of that package. It was reverted, mostly to ease
> review load. I think that's pretty much what I did when I implemented it (I
> had a local flag to disable global preferences).

Sorry, I didn't remember the details.



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-16 Thread Oren Bochman
I'd love it too - but I noticed that different wikis have quite different
settings due to different gadgets and extensions being available.

So a good solution would have to be smart enough to accommodate this.



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2012/4/15 Ole Palnatoke Andersen 

> Hi!
>
> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place


There is somewhere a bot that does it for you, but I don't remember where I
saw it.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Bináris
2012/4/15 Ole Palnatoke Andersen 

> Hi!
>
> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place


There is somewhere a bot that does it for you, but I don't remember where I
saw it.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Platonides  wrote:

> On 15/04/12 21:47, Petr Bena wrote:
> > It would be better if user could override it on local wiki, or kept
> > using global one, per project
>
> He could now.
> Preference system have been rewritten since that time.
>

*I* rewrote the preference system, and my proposed patch for global
preferences was part of that package. It was reverted, mostly to ease
review load. I think that's pretty much what I did when I implemented it (I
had a local flag to disable global preferences).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Platonides
On 15/04/12 21:47, Petr Bena wrote:
> It would be better if user could override it on local wiki, or kept
> using global one, per project

He could now.
Preference system have been rewritten since that time.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Petr Bena
It would be better if user could override it on local wiki, or kept
using global one, per project

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Andrew Garrett  wrote:
> I wrote it once upon a time (in about 2009). It was never reviewed, and I
> could never find a sensible way to set up an interface for it. Not all
> preferences are transferrable, not everybody wants any shared preferences
> at all. I thought about using a whitelist and a single opt-in/out option,
> but the way I implemented it was a single opt-in/out for all preferences.
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen > wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
>> language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
>> in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
>> distant past...
>>
>> I have found no way in the current setup to do so. Am I overlooking
>> something?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ole
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Andrew Garrett
I wrote it once upon a time (in about 2009). It was never reviewed, and I
could never find a sensible way to set up an interface for it. Not all
preferences are transferrable, not everybody wants any shared preferences
at all. I thought about using a whitelist and a single opt-in/out option,
but the way I implemented it was a single opt-in/out for all preferences.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
> language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
> in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
> distant past...
>
> I have found no way in the current setup to do so. Am I overlooking
> something?
>
>
> Regards,
> Ole
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Thomas Gries  wrote:

> see open issue https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14950 and
> the bugs marked as duplicates to it.
> Global preferences
> importance = high
>
>
Thanks. I'll just sit over in the corner impatiently, then :-)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Thomas Gries
see open issue https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14950 and
the bugs marked as duplicates to it.
Global preferences
importance = high


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Petr Bena
I could be easily preference of users to pick if they want to use
global settings or override it, should be very easy to implement

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
 wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen
>  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
>> language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
>> in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
>> distant past...
>>
>> I have found no way in the current setup to do so. Am I overlooking
>> something?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ole
>>
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> I think that last time a saw this discussed, it was rejected on the
> base of site-specific gadgets and people who have different
> preferences on different projects.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Martijn Hoekstra <
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen
>  wrote:
> > I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
> > language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
> > in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
> > distant past...
>


> I think that last time a saw this discussed, it was rejected on the
> base of site-specific gadgets and people who have different
> preferences on different projects.
>
>
I see a point in that a user may break his/her local preferences through
messing with the global prefs. That will probably happen at least once to
approximately 100 % of the users. It may or may not be a problem, though.

Ole


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen
 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
> language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
> in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
> distant past...
>
> I have found no way in the current setup to do so. Am I overlooking
> something?
>
>
> Regards,
> Ole
>
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I think that last time a saw this discussed, it was rejected on the
base of site-specific gadgets and people who have different
preferences on different projects.

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[Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
Hi!

I would love to be able to manage my settings in one place - skins,
language, gender etc. - rather than having to guess which option is which
in a foreign language where I may even have chosen Cologne Blue in some
distant past...

I have found no way in the current setup to do so. Am I overlooking
something?


Regards,
Ole

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