[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on
French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all
over the article.

Could you please stop immediately VE ?

How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests
before ?

Nico
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Dan Garry
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on
this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it.
Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.

Thanks,
Dan


On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on
 French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all
 over the article.

 Could you please stop immediately VE ?

 How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests
 before ?

 Nico
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Risker
Likely related to this bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296

It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback
page.

Risker

On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on
 this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it.
 Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.

 Thanks,
 Dan


 On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

  Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
 on
  French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
 all
  over the article.
 
  Could you please stop immediately VE ?
 
  How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests
  before ?
 
  Nico
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Well, yes it's more than urgent, several articles are trashed every minute.
How can something like that be unleashed into big wikis without proper
testing ?


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on
 this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it.
 Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.

 Thanks,
 Dan


 On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

  Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
 on
  French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
 all
  over the article.
 
  Could you please stop immediately VE ?
 
  How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests
  before ?
 
  Nico
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Yes,

it's happening everywhere, but English doesn't have accented characters, so
damages are more limited.



On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Likely related to this bugzilla:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296

 It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback
 page.

 Risker

 On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass
 on
  this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of
 it.
  Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.
 
  Thanks,
  Dan
 
 
  On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
  on
   French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
  all
   over the article.
  
   Could you please stop immediately VE ?
  
   How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real
 tests
   before ?
  
   Nico
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Erik Moeller
This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki
parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to
iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur.

Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with
recommendations on how to avoid such an incident in future. We're very
sorry for the breakage. Affected edits likely have already been
reverted - but if there's anything in addition we can do, let us know.
The team is still actively investigating the issue on
#mediawiki-visualeditor on irc.freenode.net, which is the best place
to reach them.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński

The bug for this was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56583 .

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