Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
 If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
 source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
 floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
 date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
 into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.

Have a look at userstyles.org[1]. I'm not sure what the licences are,
but perhaps we can contact some of the authors? I'm a big fan of
Wikipedia Grey Lady III.

Btw would you mind explaining the difference between a skin and a CSS
file, assuming there is one?

Steve
[1] For those unfamiliar with it, it's a repository of site-specific
CSS files for use with the browser extension Stylish. You pick a style
that someone has defined for a given site, and everytime you visit
that site, you'll get that CSS layered over the top.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-08 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-02-08 02:17 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
 li...@nadir-seen-fire.com  wrote:
 If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
 source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
 floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
 date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
 into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.
 Have a look at userstyles.org[1]. I'm not sure what the licences are,
 but perhaps we can contact some of the authors? I'm a big fan of
 Wikipedia Grey Lady III.

 Btw would you mind explaining the difference between a skin and a CSS
 file, assuming there is one?

 Steve
 [1] For those unfamiliar with it, it's a repository of site-specific
 CSS files for use with the browser extension Stylish. You pick a style
 that someone has defined for a given site, and everytime you visit
 that site, you'll get that CSS layered over the top.
A CSS file is simply a stylesheet to style the markup, you can reference 
some images from the styles as backgrounds.
An actual skin is comprised of css files, optionally js, images, and 
most importantly a php file that is used to generate the markup.
I guess I should be clear, I'm not really looking for just stylesheets, 
or the plethora of monobook clones with minor tweaks out there.
The reason why I asked for mockups especially rather than just asking 
for skins (besides saying I'd be happy to clean them up and commit them 
to svn so that we have an actual maintained repository of the skins) was 
since what I'm especially looking for are mockups that have the areas 
necessary for a skin to function as a wiki (something blog themes are 
lacking making them hard to port as examples) but break the normal rules 
(maybe they don't use the standard sidebar, have extra links, do 
navigation differently, put categories somewhere else, etc...) of how a 
skin looks. Besides some nice extra skins to add to the repo, I need 
some examples that break the normal patterns to work with and build as I 
rip out the restrictions in the current skin system. And hence I asked 
for mockups since such skins are already hard enough that most people 
probably would never have got to implementation.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]


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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-08 Thread Daniel Kinzler
  Besides some nice extra skins to add to the repo, I need 
 some examples that break the normal patterns to work with and build as I 
 rip out the restrictions in the current skin system. And hence I asked 
 for mockups since such skins are already hard enough that most people 
 probably would never have got to implementation.
 
 ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

have a look at http://brightbyte.de (yea i know, i need to upgrade).

-- daniel

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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
 I would LOVE skin designs right now. If you've got a nice idea for a
 skin feel free to mock it up and post the mockup images for it. If it
 looks interesting I'll consider turning it into a real skin,
 ESPECIALLY
 if it break our de-facto traditions on what makes up a wiki skin. Our
 rigid skin structure is one of the big limitations of our skinning
 system right now, skins that define things beyond the current
 restrictions are good examples needed while we break open the rigid
 structure of our skins.

Have you seen the skin on the DD-WRT wiki?  They designed it to look like
their UI,

Cheers,
-- jra

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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-07 Thread Platonides
Daniel Friesen wrote:
 I've been making some improvements to the skin system for awhile now, so...
 
 If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's 
 source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are 
 floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of 
 date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin 
 into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.

We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-07 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:44 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
 We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.
 I've asked Tim about that before, It's not hard to do apparently, so
 just file a bug :p.
 -Peachey

In fact, there is already a bug for it:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16423 you just need to
poke someone to do it now.
-Peachey

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Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-07 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-02-07 01:06 PM, Platonides wrote:
 Daniel Friesen wrote:
 I've been making some improvements to the skin system for awhile now, so...

 If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's
 source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are
 floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of
 date. Bring up the source code, and I'll look into committing the skin
 into svn and cleaning it up stripping away the boilerplate.
 We need to fix Extension:Distributor for skins folder, too.
Mhmm. Personally I sorta wanted a /trunk/skins folder a 
Special:SkinDistributor, and a proper Skin: namespace.

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

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