Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Bináris
Failed. Our sysop is like a stone. The main argument is that we have a
Microsoft environment and no need of a new development . I was advised to
use Sharepoint wiki instead which is a fade mockery of MediaWiki. I give it
up. :-(((

2013/2/2 Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at

 Hi,

 We're using this at another organization. But the servers are
 Debian-based. But is cool to have the same password on nearly everything.
 If you need it, I maybe could extract you the relevant information from
 this config.

 Try to get your sysadmin to let you operate on a VM possibly with Linux,
 just as a test. Then nothing influences the original installation and
 you're independent.

 Marco


 On 02/02/2013 03:42 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com  wrote:

  - Original Message -

 From: Dan Andreescudandreescu@**wikimedia.orgdandree...@wikimedia.org
 


  The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide
 for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:

 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_**Windowshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows

 If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual
 along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck!


 I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows.

 He may just need SSO with Active Directory.

 
 https://encrypted.google.com/**search?q=mediawiki+active+**directoryhttps://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory


  If that's the case, the LDAP extension works for that:

 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Extension:LDAP_Authenticationhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Chad
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Failed. Our sysop is like a stone. The main argument is that we have a
 Microsoft environment and no need of a new development . I was advised to
 use Sharepoint wiki instead which is a fade mockery of MediaWiki. I give it
 up. :-(((


Sharepoint? You have my deepest condolences.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Marco Fleckinger



On 02/05/2013 12:03 PM, Bináris wrote:

Failed. Our sysop is like a stone. The main argument is that we have a
Microsoft environment and no need of a new development . I was advised to
use Sharepoint wiki instead which is a fade mockery of MediaWiki. I give it
up. :-(((

The farmer doesn't want to eat anything he doesn't know. I don't know 
this sentence's popularity in Hungary (AFAIK?), but in German it's quite 
famous.


Sorry about that.

You may annoy him a little bit. :=D

Therefore you will need user credentials. BTW, is it already activated? 
Does your company even want to use it? If you already have some 
wiki-stuff, you may need to convert this. People will need to be 
introduced into this.


Just be some kind of creative! :-)

Marco

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Chad
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Marco Fleckinger
marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at wrote:
 The farmer doesn't want to eat anything he doesn't know. I don't know this
 sentence's popularity in Hungary (AFAIK?), but in German it's quite famous.


I think the rough equivalent in English is nobody wants to see how a
sausage is made. :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 05-02-2013, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 07:21 -0500, ο/η Chad έγραψε:
 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Marco Fleckinger
 marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at wrote:
  The farmer doesn't want to eat anything he doesn't know. I don't know this
  sentence's popularity in Hungary (AFAIK?), but in German it's quite famous.
 
 
 I think the rough equivalent in English is nobody wants to see how a
 sausage is made. :)
 
That's exactly the opposite meaning... I think you want better the
devil we know than the devil we don't. 

Ariel


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Dan Andreescu
Devils and Sausages aside, I think sysadmins have a hard job that probably
shouldn't be made harder if possible:

http://xkcd.com/705/

Binaris, if you have access to a machine, you can set up a Bitnami
MediaWiki installation.  It's as simple as downloading the executable and
running it.  Bitnami is an open source project that bundles popular open
source software and takes the headaches out of configuring, etc.  Here's
the MediaWiki install:

http://bitnami.org/stack/mediawiki

Good luck.


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Στις 05-02-2013, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 07:21 -0500, ο/η Chad έγραψε:
  On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Marco Fleckinger
  marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at wrote:
   The farmer doesn't want to eat anything he doesn't know. I don't know
 this
   sentence's popularity in Hungary (AFAIK?), but in German it's quite
 famous.
  
 
  I think the rough equivalent in English is nobody wants to see how a
  sausage is made. :)
 
 That's exactly the opposite meaning... I think you want better the
 devil we know than the devil we don't.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Bináris
Thank you, guys, I got more answer since I have told my disaster than
previously. :-)

2013/2/5 Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at


 Therefore you will need user credentials. BTW, is it already activated?
 Does your company even want to use it? If you already have some wiki-stuff,
 you may need to convert this. People will need to be introduced into this.

I tried to google what this is but I couldn't get a good overview. Can you
tell me in one sentence, what this is for?
I am not sure my company (i.e. our sysop) wants to use anything new.
Together with MediaWIki my other request to have PostgreSQL updated from
8.1 to 9.x has been rejected, too. :-(
(Yes, Hungary, you know well.)

2013/2/5 Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org


 Binaris, if you have access to a machine, you can set up a Bitnami
 MediaWiki installation.

Yes, the sysop dislikes the idea of open source in this MS environment.
I have full access to my own machine where I am allowed to play on my own,
and I already have a XAMPP MW installation on it. That's no problem, I
wrote this article for the community Hungarian Wikipedia on installing MW
with XAMPP:
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikitelep%C3%ADt%C3%A9s_a_saj%C3%A1t_g%C3%A9pedre_l%C3%A9p%C3%A9sr%C5%91l_l%C3%A9p%C3%A9sre
The only problem is that this is a workstation, and my colleagues won't
reach my wiki.
I thought of an outer installation, but as I want to share non-public
know-how, it should be a private wiki and users would have to login each
time which is not a popular idea.
So I write Word documents at the moment.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-05 Thread Quim Gil

On 02/05/2013 04:02 PM, Dan Andreescu wrote:

http://xkcd.com/705/


:D


Binaris, if you have access to a machine, you can set up a Bitnami
MediaWiki installation.  It's as simple as downloading the executable and
running it.  Bitnami is an open source project that bundles popular open
source software and takes the headaches out of configuring, etc.  Here's
the MediaWiki install:

http://bitnami.org/stack/mediawiki


See also (and contribute to - thanks!)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_with_BitNami

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-02 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

 - Original Message -
  From: Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org

  The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide
  for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:
 
  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows
 
  If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual
  along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck!

 I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows.

 He may just need SSO with Active Directory.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory


If that's the case, the LDAP extension works for that:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-02 Thread Marco Fleckinger

Hi,

We're using this at another organization. But the servers are 
Debian-based. But is cool to have the same password on nearly 
everything. If you need it, I maybe could extract you the relevant 
information from this config.


Try to get your sysadmin to let you operate on a VM possibly with Linux, 
just as a test. Then nothing influences the original installation and 
you're independent.


Marco

On 02/02/2013 03:42 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com  wrote:


- Original Message -

From: Dan Andreescudandree...@wikimedia.org



The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide
for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows

If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual
along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck!


I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows.

He may just need SSO with Active Directory.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory



If that's the case, the LDAP extension works for that:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-01 Thread Dan Andreescu
Hi Bináris,

The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide for
getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows

If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual along
with any resolutions you or others come up with.  Good luck!

Dan


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 does anyone have experiences with integrating a MediaWiki installation into
 Small Business Server 2008 environment? The task is to install a wiki and
 authenticate logged-in users automatically. Preferably with real name
 instead of username.
 Is there a manual for this somewhere?
 I would like a company install for handbooks and howtos, but I have to
 persuade our sysop.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-01 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org

 The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide
 for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:
 
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows
 
 If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual
 along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck!

I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows.  

He may just need SSO with Active Directory.

   https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-01 Thread Bináris
Thank you, guys!

The problem is that I am not expert with SBS and I am not a sysop and the
sysop doesn't know MediaWiki at all. But I will try to persuade him.


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