Re: About code freeze...

2008-06-17 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Alex Villací­s Lasso wrote:
 Wine 1.0 is out! Great!
 
 Does this mean we are now out of code freeze? I have a bunch of richedit 
 patches I submitted previously but were held up because of the code 
 freeze. Is it time to submit them again?
 

AJ said earlier in IRC that the Code Freeze is now over so I would 
assume everyone is ok to continue sending as usual.

Ben H.




Wine compiler options benchmarks

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Just in-case anyone was ever curious about how well Wine performs with
different C/XXFLAGs I did a test today with RC5 to see how much of a
difference it makes with 3DMark 2001 SE, nothing major but if someone
can think of a better benchmark to try, please let me know (I had hoped
to try Oblivion or some such but it has no benchmark feature).

Core2Quad Q9450 @ 3.4Ghz || 4GB PC8500 5-5-5-15 || GCC 4.3.1 || Linux 2.6.25
3DMark 2001 SE B300. Wine 1.0-rc5.

28576   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28522   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mfpmath=sse,387
28511   -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28427   -march=native -O3  -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math
-funroll-loops -Wall -pipe
28426   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387
28311   -march=native -O2 -pipe
28270   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28126   -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28072   Wine Default (-g -O2)
27984   -march=native -O3 -pipe
27646   -march=native -Os -pipe


For reference I tried the same with Lame just to show how it would
affect other programs:

Core2Quad Q9450 @ 3.4Ghz || 4GB PC8500 5-5-5-15 || GCC 4.3.1 || Linux 2.6.25
~30 minute stereo wave file encoded in Lame Lame-3.97 64bit.

real1m28.739s   -O3 -ffast-math -funroll-loops -Wall -pipe (Lame 
defaults)
real1m29.168s   -march=native -O3 -ffast-math -funroll-loops -Wall -pipe
real1m35.633s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ffast-math
real1m35.923s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ftracer -ffast-math
real1m36.346s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ffast-math -falign-functions=64
real1m36.768s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ftracer -ffast-math
real1m37.242s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ftracer
real1m38.127s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m38.235s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fvect-cost-model
real1m38.243s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387
real1m38.278s   -march=native -O2 -pipe
real1m38.423s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=64
real1m38.527s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ffast-math
real1m38.573s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=128
real1m38.575s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse
real1m39.241s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ftracer
real1m39.261s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m40.946s   -march=native -Os -pipe -ffast-math
real1m41.385s   -march=native -Os -pipe
real1m41.513s   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m41.602s   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer 
-mfpmath=sse,387
real1m46.577s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=387

Slightly more influential there.
Ben H.





Wine compiler options benchmarks

2008-06-16 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Just in-case anyone was ever curious about how well Wine performs with 
different C/XXFLAGs I did a test today with RC5 to see how much of a 
difference it makes with 3DMark 2001 SE, nothing major but if someone 
can think of a better benchmark to try, please let me know (I had hoped 
to try Oblivion or some such but it has no benchmark feature).

Core2Quad Q9450 @ 3.4Ghz || 4GB PC8500 5-5-5-15 || GCC 4.3.1 || Linux 2.6.25
3DMark 2001 SE B300. Wine 1.0-rc5.

28576   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28522   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mfpmath=sse,387
28511   -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28427   -march=native -O3  -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math 
-funroll-loops -Wall -pipe
28426   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387
28311   -march=native -O2 -pipe
28270   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28126   -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
28072   Wine Default (-g -O2)
27984   -march=native -O3 -pipe
27646   -march=native -Os -pipe


For reference I tried the same with Lame just to show how it would 
affect other programs:

Core2Quad Q9450 @ 3.4Ghz || 4GB PC8500 5-5-5-15 || GCC 4.3.1 || Linux 2.6.25
~30 minute stereo wave file encoded in Lame Lame-3.97 64bit.

real1m28.739s   -O3 -ffast-math -funroll-loops -Wall -pipe (Lame 
defaults)
real1m29.168s   -march=native -O3 -ffast-math -funroll-loops -Wall -pipe
real1m35.633s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ffast-math
real1m35.923s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ftracer -ffast-math
real1m36.346s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ffast-math -falign-functions=64
real1m36.768s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ftracer -ffast-math
real1m37.242s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -ftracer
real1m38.127s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m38.235s   -march=native -O3 -pipe -fvect-cost-model
real1m38.243s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse,387
real1m38.278s   -march=native -O2 -pipe
real1m38.423s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=64
real1m38.527s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ffast-math
real1m38.573s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=128
real1m38.575s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=sse
real1m39.241s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -ftracer
real1m39.261s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m40.946s   -march=native -Os -pipe -ffast-math
real1m41.385s   -march=native -Os -pipe
real1m41.513s   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
real1m41.602s   -march=native -Os -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer 
-mfpmath=sse,387
real1m46.577s   -march=native -O2 -pipe -mfpmath=387

Slightly more influential there.
Ben H.




Re: compile fail on Linux Mint

2008-03-11 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Chad Harris wrote:
 Hi guys.

Please use the user-list in future or use the pre-compiled packages
until you're experienced with compiling programs, this is the Wine
development list.

Ben H.

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Re: Wine still busted?

2008-02-29 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Dan Kegel wrote:
 Even with Alexandre's most recent fix, I'm seeing hangs
 on Photoshop CS2 installer, iTunes installer, and Word Perfect Office
 X3 installer,
 and Susan is seeing hangs on Dragon, all with the suspicious line
 
 $ err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7bc8cf80 rtl.c:
 peb_lock wait timed out in thread 0014, blocked by 0016, retrying (60
 sec)
 
 

Juliard's patch fixed a few apps and broke considerably more (when he
fixed the Fls issue). Currently Wine is a bit FUBAR for the most part.

See bug 11779.

Ben H.
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Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Possibly, but on the other hand it could just as easily become Garbage
in the next release of Wine ;)

(sorry, I already sent this once at the start of the day but emailed it
directly to the previous person rather than back to the list)

Ben H.

Tomas Zijdemans wrote:
 This is great :)

 Would it be a good idea to include major news from the appDB?
 Ex: Photoshop cs2 has now reached Gold status

 I think this would be very inspiring to users.


 Tomas

 Triton wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500
 Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kai,

 It was my pleasure :).  Keep the interesting wine discussion/news
 coming and I'll keep writing WWNs.  I'll also make note to highlight
 in particular GSoC developments as they happen.

 --Zach
 Hi everyone, I've been following the mailing lists for some time now, this 
 is my first post. OK, presentation done...

 I also had to thank you bring to life the WWN, it's a great resource for 
 those who don't actively follow the development discussions.





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Adding Bugzilla keyword for Copy-protection/Debugger issues

2007-11-29 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Just a thought but it may be a good idea to add a keyword to Bugzilla
for issues related to debuggers or copy-protection, that would help
group them all together as at the moment there seem to be many bugs
related to breakages from obscure debugger protections or things like
GameGuard. It's much cleaner than the hated meta bug idea and is easier
to implement.

Just a thought.

Ben H.
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Re: #winehq admin troubles

2007-11-09 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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There's something many people are missing here and something that the
noobs enforce. They come in, know little about wine, then attempt to
help other people, of course they don't because their information and
suggestions are wrong and either a) do nothing, b) make more work for
other people or c) make it considerably worse. It's an annoying trend
and becomes infuriating for anyone (especially when they start insulting
you as well). I'm pretty sure Ghandi would have KO'ed someone with his
keyboard by now.

So remember kids, bad advice is worse than no advice.

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Re: appdb problem: deleting test data?

2007-07-09 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Currently it doesn't seem to be implemented which is a little annoying.

Ben H.

Dan Kegel wrote:
 How does one delete just one test report?
 There's a 'delete version' button but no
 'delete test data' button, and clicking on 'edit'
 for the test data also doesn't offer a way to
 delete the test data.
 
 

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ws2_32: Dont tell users to run Wine as root when sockets not creatable (try 2)

2007-07-01 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
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Change the wording so that users aren't told to run Wine as root any
more as that's unsupported and dangerous. Instead specify that they need
special permissions to be able to create the socket (sockets can be
created without the need to be root specifically). Also cuts the lines
down below the 80 char mark.
- ---
 dlls/ws2_32/socket.c |6 --
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
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From 844bb4631e078e89adc1910b2e0df5097ad14846 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ben Hodgetts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:27:59 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] ws2_32: Dont tell users to run Wine as root when sockets not creatable
To: wine-patches [EMAIL PROTECTED]

---
 dlls/ws2_32/socket.c |6 --
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/dlls/ws2_32/socket.c b/dlls/ws2_32/socket.c
index 90fa9b0..5984790 100644
--- a/dlls/ws2_32/socket.c
+++ b/dlls/ws2_32/socket.c
@@ -3767,9 +3767,11 @@ SOCKET WINAPI WSASocketW(int af, int type, int protocol,
 if (GetLastError() == WSAEACCES) /* raw socket denied */
 {
 if (type == SOCK_RAW)
-MESSAGE(WARNING: Trying to create a socket of type SOCK_RAW, will fail unless running as root\n);
+MESSAGE(WARNING: Trying to create a socket of type SOCK_RAW, this
+ will fail unless you have special permissions.\n);
 else
-MESSAGE(WS_SOCKET: not enough privileges to create socket, try running as root\n);
+MESSAGE(WS_SOCKET: Failed to create socket, this requires 
+ special permissions.\n);
 SetLastError(WSAESOCKTNOSUPPORT);
 }
 
-- 
1.5.2.2




Re: request to change appdb message

2007-06-28 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Me and Chris Morgan changed it to this because we were sick of people 
pasting pages and pages of terminal output into the What works or What 
doesn't work boxes of the test data which is NOT where it belongs. The 
information in test data should be written in plain English, not pastes 
of lots of (mostly useless) terminal output which just looks awful and 
isn't any use to most users of the AppDB.


I agree with point 2 but the problem is most AppDB submitters just... 
too stupid  to be able to use some sense or judgement about what they 
are asked to actually put in the test reports.


What you'd rather change it to would make the previous situation much, 
much worse so under no circumstances should it be changed to that though.


Ben H.

Louis. Lenders wrote:
Hi, since a few weeks the following message is displayed when you try 
to submit test results into appdb:


*Please DO NOT include crash or Wine debug output. Instead report the 
crash as a bug in the Wine bugzilla at http://bugs.winehq.org 
http://bugs.winehq.org/. We ask that you use bugzilla because 
developers do not monitor the AppDB for bugs.


I'm not that happy with this message for a few reasons:

1. Most testers will not attach this to  a bug, either because there 
isn't an  entry for the  app in bugzilla,  or they  don't bother to do so.


2.  There are crashes like these that users attach:
wine app.exe
err:module:import_dll Library MSVBVM60.DLL (which is needed by 
LC:\\app.exe) not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for 
LC:\\app.exe failed, status c135


We don't want users to attach these things in bugzilla, we'd rather  
point them what to do in the email-field. If users don't attach 
crashes anymore to the testresults , i cannot by no means see anymore 
if a testresult is valid or not.


I'd rather see something like:

**Please DO include crash or Wine debug output here, and **report the 
crash as a bug in the Wine bugzilla at http://bugs.winehq.org 
http://bugs.winehq.org/**.


Any comments?
*


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Wine networking broke on Debian Sid

2007-06-28 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Just to make this clear before starting this is a Sid issue (as far as I 
can tell) not a Wine issue.


Anyway, to the point. Networking is broken on Debian Sid and has been 
for at least a week. I can't find out what has changed in Sid for it to 
stop working but basically anyone running Wine on Sid wont be able to 
use any form of network access. Firefox wont work, games wont be able to 
access servers or anything else, Gecko wont work, etc. This is using 
GIT, not the distros own packages.


I tried using the x86_64 package for Ubuntu 7.04 (because no x86_64 
package exists for Debian) and Wine acted exactly the same way with a 
clean .wine so it's not related to any build time issues. I reset to 
0.9.34 in GIT and built that to make sure it wasn't anything that has 
changed in Wine itself and the issue continued, so it's not something 
that's changed in Wine. Although using an earlier version of Wine gives 
a Winehq.com could not be found, please check the address and try 
again. Current Wine (or rather Gecko) doesn't bother giving you an 
error message.


Could this be the work of the removal of an unspoken Wine dependency or 
something more sinister? All native apps still work perfectly which is 
what makes this such a hard thing to track down.


I just thought I'd throw this out there in-case any of you are using Sid 
and wondering what the the hell happened to Wine. Log attached for 
completeness.


Ben H.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/source/wine-git]$ WINEPREFIX=~/.wine-iet wine iexplore http://winehq.org
fixme:shdocvw:IEWinMain http://winehq.org; 1
fixme:ole:CoResumeClassObjects stub
err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_QueryStatus (0x1b553c)-((null) 1 0x33faec (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-((null) 25 2 0x33fb00 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-((null) 26 2 0x33fb00 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1b553c)-(0x33fb3c)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-({000214d1---c000-0046} 37 0 0x33fc60 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:HttpNegotiate_BeginningTransaction (0x1b63a8)-(L L 0 0x33fc74)
fixme:shdocvw:BindStatusCallback_GetBindInfo (0x1b63a8)-(0x33fc78 0x33fb9c)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-((null) 29 2 0x33fca0 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:DocHostUIHandler_GetDropTarget (0x1b553c)
fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1b553c)-(0x33fb8c)
fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceFrame_SetStatusText (0x1b553c)-(0xf7ecdff5)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-((null) 25 2 0x33fac8 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-((null) 26 2 0x33fac8 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1b553c)-({000214d1---c000-0046} 67 0 0x33ee10 0x33ee00)
fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosErrorNoTeb no mapping for 800a
err:ole:local_server_thread Failure during ConnectNamedPipe 317


Re: configure:2479: error: C compiler cannot create executables

2007-06-25 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Why are you posting this to the Wine development list? This is nothing 
other than user error. Please use the Wine users list.


Ben H.

jens wrote:

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ac_cv_prog_ac_ct_CC='gcc -m32'
ac_cv_prog_make_make_set=yes

## - ##
## Output variables. ##
## - ##

ALSALIBS=''
AR=''
AS='as --32'
AUDIOIOLIBS=''
BISON=''
BUILTINFLAG=''
CARBONLIB=''
CC='gcc -m32'
CFLAGS=''
COREAUDIO=''
COREFOUNDATIONLIB=''
CPP=''
CPPBIN=''
CPPFLAGS=''
CROSSCC=''
CROSSTEST=''
CROSSWINDRES=''
CRTLIBS=''
CXX=''
CXXFLAGS=''
DEFS=''
DEPENDENCIES=''
DISKARBITRATIONLIB=''
DLLEXT=''
DLLFLAGS=''
DLLTOOL=''
DLLWRAP=''
ECHO_C=''
ECHO_N='-n'
ECHO_T=''
EGREP=''
ESDCONFIG=''
ESDINCL=''
ESDLIBS=''
EXEEXT=''
EXTRACFLAGS=''
EXTRA_BINARIES=''
FLEX=''
FONTFORGE=''
FONTSSUBDIRS=''
FREETYPEINCL=''
FREETYPELIBS=''
GLU32FILES=''
GPHOTO2INCL=''
GPHOTO2LIBS=''
GREP=''
HALINCL=''
ICULIBS=''
IMPLIBEXT=''
INSTALL_DATA=''
INSTALL_PROGRAM=''
INSTALL_SCRIPT=''
IOKITLIB=''
LCMSLIBS=''
LD='ld -m elf_i386'
LDAPLIBS=''
LDCONFIG=''
LDD=''
LDDLLFLAGS=''
LDEXECFLAGS=''
LDFLAGS='/usr/lib32'
LDPATH=''
LDSHARED=''
LIBDL=''
LIBEXT=''
LIBOBJS=''
LIBPOLL=''
LIBPTHREAD=''
LIBS=''
LIBWINE_LDFLAGS=''
LINT=''
LINTFLAGS=''
LN=''
LN_S=''
LTLIBOBJS=''
MAIN_BINARY=''
MINGWAR=''
NASLIBS=''
OBJEXT=''
OPENGLFILES=''
OPENGL_LIBS=''

Re: How to make your machine crash when running Wine

2007-06-22 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
That's nothing to do with Wine nor does it make the machine crash. The 
nVidia driver works enough to run X and 2D but X closes itself if you do 
anything related to OpenGL (i.e. it'll happen even if you try and run 
glxinfo). I've never had it happen from an X update though, just minor 
kernel updates without recompiling the driver (i.e. 2.6.22-1 to 2.6.22-2).


Ben H.

gslink wrote:
If you are using the Nvidia drivers posted on the Nvidia web site then 
you MUST reinstall these drivers whenever you update ANY of the 
X-server software.  If you replace the kernel you will be forced to 
reinstall the drivers but just replacing the X-server or the open GL 
code does not do this.  Not reinstalling drivers when video code is 
replaced usually causes problems.  It seems like every time RH updates 
any video code but does not upgrade the kernel at the same time there 
are complaints that Wine causes machines to crash.  This is the reason.









Re: Making the wiki FAQ live

2007-06-21 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
I've done some heavy modifications and additions to the Wiki FAQ and 
it's now the YOU MUST READ THIS NOW! document pointed to by the 
#winehq IRC channel so I agree. It's also impossible to edit the old FAQ 
easily anyway. Some users have been confused though finding two FAQs on 
the site, so the quicker the old one can be taken down the better.


Ben H.

Scott Ritchie wrote:

So, about a month ago we discussed the idea of replacing the
documentation FAQ with one based in the wiki.  Nothing was done, but the
general consensus seemed to be to wait and see if the wiki approach
worked out better.

Since that time, the Wiki FAQ has been updated by 7 people other than
myself.  We've removed most of the cruft, and taken the FAQ from an
unhelpful mess to something a user actually should read.  Meanwhile, the
original FAQ has been unchanged.

It's not done, but I think it's time to take it live and make the wiki
FAQ our official FAQ, and then remove the old one from the documentation
build.  Based on the past month alone, I think it's fairly safe to say
that it's easier to maintain, update, and keep relevant this way.

I've already sent a patch for lostwages to wine-devel.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie



  






Problem with the Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty) package (again)

2007-06-15 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
We've had a few people report issues with the Ubuntu Feisty .38 package 
in the WineHQ repo lately 
(http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/feisty/wine_0.9.38~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_i386.deb) 
the specific issue being that the fonts are all missing on most things, 
in other places only the first few letters may be shown. Originally I 
thought this was something to do with them lacking fonts but in each 
case telling them to install the .37 package instead fixed the issue 
meaning it's more likely to be a problem with the .38 package. Any ideas 
Scott?



Ben H.




Re: Status regarding the recent Appdb vandalism

2007-05-24 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Yes, EVERYTHING from the listed apps was deleted. The AppDB sends an 
email for each individual thing though, for instance if an app has 2 
versions, 5 sets of test data, 80 comments and 7 screenshots it will 
send you 94 individual emails with the info from each item that has been 
deleted.


For the record I have no emails containing Roop at all.

Bryan: Don't email the mailing list AND every single person on the list, 
ONLY mail the list itself.


Ben H.


Bryan Haskins wrote:
Also, in respect to World of Warcraft (Only notify list I'm on), I saw 
another deleting quite a bit, as I was saying this morning in #winehq, 
I recorded deletions by Roop, no clue if they might actually be legit, 
but there was a lot deleted, so I thought I might throw that out there,


On 5/23/07, *Jan Zerebecki* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please do _only_ address replies to this email to
wine-devel@winehq.org mailto:wine-devel@winehq.org ! Remove all
other recipients from To and
Cc !

Work is currently underway to restore the state of the Appdb to
the backup of May 22 07:00 CST.

This morning ( TZ +0200 ) someone used the account Molle
Bestefich to vandalize the Appdb. He was also seen on IRC and on
the wiki. His IP was identified on all three, logs are available.
See towards the end of this mail for IRC log snippet and whois on
his IP. Please contact me first if you intend to contact abuse or
police personal regarding this, so we don't cause headaches or
duplicate work. We do not yet know how this person got access to
Molle Bestefich his account.

I received 4454 emails about deletes or other actions by the
account Molle Bestefich. Send between Date: Tue, 22 May 2007
21:43:46 -0500 and Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 22:18:55 -0500. (2
mails sent by the Appdb in that date range were legit actions.) I
don't know if these are all, because admin-accounts were
explicitly deleted and thus the notification to them stopped.

The following applications where mentioned in these notification
emails:
Adobe Illustrator
Battlefield 1942
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty
Checkpoint Firewall-1 Policy editor
Command  Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Counter-Strike: Source
Day of Defeat: Source
Deus Ex
Diablo II
EVE Online
F.E.A.R.: First Encounter Assault Recon
Final Fantasy XI Online
Guild Wars
IDA Pro
Photoshop
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. : Shadow of Chernobyl
Soldat
Steam
Supreme Commander
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Trillian
World of Warcraft
PunkBuster
Rune
Igowin
Age of Empires
Age of Mythology
Black  White
Brothers in Arms
Flash
FlatOut
.NET Framework
Lotus Notes

Some notifcations didn't contain a application of version, here
the Message-Id-s of some examples (this is probably a bug in the
Appdb code):
screen shot
Message-Id:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
test result
Message-Id:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
monitor
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bug
Message-Id:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

One message about a rejected bug link seemed like these type of
message don't contain any information:
Message-Id:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On IRC from the #winehq channel:
Mai 23 05:27:14 -- noerrorsfound_ (n=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) has joined #winehq
[unrelated stuff deleted]
Mai 23 06:21:37 --- noerrorsfound_ is now known as
molle-molle-moll
Mai 23 06:21:41 molle-molle-moll  molle molle molle
Mai 23 06:21:42 molle-molle-moll  molle
Mai 23 06:21:51 molle-molle-moll  molle
Mai 23 06:22:03 molle-molle-moll  mole string
Mai 23 06:22:18 molle-molle-moll  hello give thank
Mai 23 06:22:18 -- Amorphous has kicked molle-molle-moll from
#winehq (Amorphous)

/whois output:
[06:22:38] --- [molle-molle-moll]
([EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) : Nicholas
[06:22:38] --- [whoismolle-molle-moll] irc.freenode.net
http://irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/
[06:22:38] --- [molle-molle-moll] End of WHOIS list.


2007-05-23T06:50:15+0200 $ whois 64.119.66.10 http://64.119.66.10
OrgName:Windstream Communications Inc
OrgID:  WINDS-6
Address:4001 Rodney Parham Rd
City:   Little Rock
StateProv:  AR
PostalCode: 72212
Country:US

NetRange:   64.119.64.0 http://64.119.64.0 - 64.119.79.255
http://64.119.79.255
CIDR:   64.119.64.0/20 http://64.119.64.0/20
NetName:WINDSTREAM-COMMUNICATIONS
NetHandle:  NET-64-119-64-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1-AUTH.WINDSTREAM.NET 

Re: Install fail on 64bit syst Q

2007-05-14 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
I am aware that wine currently installs on 32 bit only according to numerous 
blogentries. Here is my congif.log on this attempt to better assist in a X86_64 
generic compile.

I suppose, on my ignorance- that this compile needs to be put in a different 
location to be called for? I am new to Linux/Ubuntu and programming 
language-speak, so any help here, non-tech type would be a help.

William Pickett
Albuquerque NM

WINE Installer v0.75

Running configure...

configure: creating cache config.cache
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... gcc -m32
checking for C compiler default output file name... 
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables

See `config.log' for more details.

Configure failed, aborting install.

This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

It was created by Wine configure 0.9.37, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.61.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure -C --prefix=/usr/local

--- cropped
  
Wine compiles fine on 64bit machines, you just don't have everything 
needed to compile software installed on your machine. This is a Wine 
developer mailing list and you should not be posting this here. Please 
direct it to your Linux distro forums or IRC.


Ben H




AppDB latest entry not shown in test-data table

2007-03-27 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
I just noticed an issue with the AppDB while I was browsing. The data
from the latest submission is shown by default, but it doesn't appear in
the table of testing data (the block below which says what OS, version,
ratings, etc). So it means you're unable to edit the latest submitted
test data for each app in the AppDB or see what rating, version of Wine
and submitter it has.

Wasn't sure where to send this so I thought I'd throw it into here as
it's likely to find the person that needs to correct it one way or another.

Ben H.



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Re: App DB TOP-10 issue

2007-03-07 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
This issue is already logged and assigned on Bugz.

Ex.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I want to annotate that there are apps/games twice in the Platinum
 List(Diablo II Lord of Destruction 1.x , Outlaws All versions) even
 thrice(if you add Diablo II 1.x and LoD up for such a list).

 Btw: Why are Outlaws and IDA Pro top? Doesn't seem they are so
 popular, nvm.






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Re: Forum proposal

2007-03-02 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
That's not really that much of an issue as only the ML is official so
devs and such don't have to go trapsing after people, they have to come
here.

Ex.

Tomas Carnecky wrote:
 Scott Ritchie wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 20:57 +0100, Tomas Carnecky wrote:
 Luis C. Busquets Pérez wrote:
 I understand that for some people the mailing list is a far better
 thing. May be for some other, a forum is better.

 Why not trying both systems?

 This question has already been answered.. anyway: if you have both a
 ML and a forum, you effectively split the community into two parts!
 Nobody will be on both the forum and the ML, it will be harder for
 the users because they'll have to two places to go to, and it will
 be harder for the developers because bug-reports will be posted two
 two different places.

 tom

 This just isn't true.  I read the mailing list and check the various
 forums where Wine is discussed regularly.  It's not that difficult to do
 both, since I check my email anyway.


 Maybe you, but there are other people who just don't have time to
 monitor both a forum and the ML.
 And my point still stands, you split the community up!

 tom






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Re: Sound problems with Alice

2007-02-23 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
Please use bugs.winehq.org for things like this, not the mailing list.
It's a bug and should be reported so it can be fixed, it will just get
lost or ignored on the mailing list.

Ex.

gslink wrote:
 In the past I have always used the demo version of the game Alice to
 test Wine.  Recently I loaded a Wine installation and found the game
 had no sound.  After considerable testing it appears that about a year
 ago a change was made in Wine that killed the sound.  Has anyone else
 had this problem and does it affect anything else?  On my loads most
 other things seem to have sound.






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Re: wine-0.9.31 version is absent from bugzilla

2007-02-20 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
It's done manually by an admin.

Lei Zhang wrote:
 Does someone manually add new versions to bugzilla or is it done
 automatically?

 On 2/19/07, Vitaliy Margolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please whoever has powers to add new versions to bugzilla, can they
 please do that?

 Thanks.

 Vitaliy.









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Re: appdb rating inflation

2007-01-04 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

Chris Morgan wrote:
On 03 Jan 2007 22:46:31 +0200, Kari Hurtta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Chris Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes in 
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:


 On 03 Jan 2007 16:34:21 +0200, Kari Hurtta 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes in 
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:

 
   The appdb says
   Only applications which install and run flawlessly on an 
out-of-the-box

   Wine installation make it to the Platinum list
 
  Yes.  Also on front page http://appdb.winehq.org/ on first item:
 
  The Top-10 Platinum List
 
  Ragnarok Online All Versions
 
  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928
 
  Maintainer's Rating:Platinum
 
 
  Description:What was not tested
 
   * Installation. That was not necessary 
because I
 already installed it in Windows - I'm 
just running

 RO from the Windows partition.
 
 
 
  So that appdb classification is complete garbage.
 
  If Platinum requires that installation works out of box, and
  tester did even tested installation and still gives platinium.
 
 
  So first item on http://appdb.winehq.org/ says don't trust me.
 
  / Kari Hurtta
 
 
  ( Some other maintenaivers have give rating 'Garbage' for this 
application :-) )


 I agree, the rating isn't correct. We aren't going to be able to avoid
 issues with mis-rated applications though, so discussing language
 changes is only going to clarify the issue not entirely prevent them.

 In this case the maintainer of the application should be made aware of
 this issue and should take care of correcting the rating.

 Chris

Yes. However there may be another test for this application, which may
be correctly rated platinium:

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928iTestingId=8032


On that test, installation is tested:

| What works
| Installing the game, patching, launching the game from the 
directory.
| Sound worked flawlessly. Runs as fast as on win32 at 
1024x768 (full detail).


http://appdb.winehq.org/   platinium list's first item should point
to that test instead.


Perhapsappdb should check that   Installs? and Runs?   column on
particular test have Yes, before it accept Platinum to Rating
column ?


/ Kari Hurtta




Exactly, we need some logic to ensure ratings are correct. I think the
fundamental change is that we should remove maintainer ratings
entirely and be driven by the test results. This way the rating of the
application depends on how well users can get it to run on their
platform under wine instead of an experts opinion.

Chris




I'd have to agree. Just having the normal app-reports seems to make more 
sense. I'm also not sure how the maintainer rating was supposed to work. 
I was going by current Wine but another maintainer changed it back and 
the Wine version to and old one saying you have to set it to the one 
that worked best.


Ex.




Re: appdb rating inflation

2007-01-03 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

Frank Richter wrote:

On 03.01.2007 04:00, Dan Kegel wrote:
No manual editing of files, no winecfg settings, no native DLLs, no 
third-party

install scripts, and no cracks are allowed for a Platinum rating.


Giving a set of points may lead to some people think hey to run 
MyApplication I just have to some obscure workaround. It's not in 
the list, so lets rate it platinum!. So maybe put some generalized 
criterium in front of that list: The application should install and 
run on a fresh, unmodified Wine, from original installation media. 
That means, among other things, no manual editing of files, ...


OTOH, there are not much obscure workarounds not covered by that 
list. Manually editing the registry might be one that should be be 
disallowed. Also, you mentioned apps that only run as root; this might 
be worthwhile to disallow, too.


-f.r.



I'd have to disagree on the NoCD bit simply because the AppDB will only 
ever end up with a handful of Platinum games at best due to the fact 
that copy-protection code will not be implemented for quite some time, 
if ever when really other than that easily workaroundable point the game 
may work perfectly.


Ex.




Re: ppviewer.exe MSI failure (PowerPoint 2k3): HowTo assemble a lynch mob?

2007-01-03 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

Robert Shearman wrote:

Ben Hodgetts (Enverex) wrote:

James Hawkins wrote:


This installer works fine for me with git wine.



It is probably the -2140172307 bug 
(http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6998 - Tested by me and 
Vitaliy) doing it. Basically it started happening after 0.9.27 to 
newer installshield apps. They simply stop installing without error 
but it wasn't always and was at a random point (then patches after 
.28 caused it to give a crazy error message and now a patch has been 
submitted to fix it). The errors seen in the terminal were normal, 
you tend to get a lot when installing things but they are rarely 
critical.


PowerPoint Viewer 2003 isn't an InstallShield installer.



Ah, sorry, was just taking a stab in the dark.

Ex.




Re: appdb rating inflation

2007-01-03 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

Dan Kegel wrote:

Also, I am dismayed that some people think cracks are
OK.  They're illegal, last time I checked, and I don't
think winehq should advocate their use.
I've never heard anything about them being illegal over here (which 
means even if they are it's one of those retarded laws that 
absoloutely zero people follow due to it being something that has been 
implemented wrongly shown by it's complete non-existant follow-up). Copy 
protection is invasive, annoying, technically for the most part useless 
and makes most Wine apps useless without a patch for it.


Ex.




Re: ppviewer.exe MSI failure (PowerPoint 2k3): HowTo assemble a lynch mob?

2007-01-02 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)

James Hawkins wrote:

On 1/1/07, Andreas Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=428D5727-43AB-4F24-90B7-A94784AF71A4displaylang=en 



failed to install with some nice MSI failures when I tried it last 
week on a current

Wine version (Ubuntu package 0.9.28, I think).

Does that mean that I'm entitled to assemble a capable lynch mob for 
the guys
who were supposed to fix any and all MSI installer issues at 
CodeWeavers? ;)


IMHO ppviewer.exe is important since those people who receive some 
scripted
PowerPoint file (yes, that's even some games!) won't have much luck 
with
OpenOffice Impress, so they're fully dependant on getting 
ppviewer.exe to work.




This installer works fine for me with git wine.



It is probably the -2140172307 bug 
(http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6998 - Tested by me and Vitaliy) 
doing it. Basically it started happening after 0.9.27 to newer 
installshield apps. They simply stop installing without error but it 
wasn't always and was at a random point (then patches after .28 caused 
it to give a crazy error message and now a patch has been submitted to 
fix it). The errors seen in the terminal were normal, you tend to get a 
lot when installing things but they are rarely critical.


Ex.