Re: More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Maik Schulz

On 4 Aug 2009, at 10:42, Francois Gouget wrote:


On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:

I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most  
popular

pages.  In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/

The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general  
overview

of the project.


Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I
got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the  
language

on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable
to expect). So this raises two questions:


Someone else already answered that the link to switch languages is on  
the main winehq.org page.


However, I'd like to suggest that the current language is not handled  
via a cookie but rather as part of the URL. That would make it  
possible for external sites to link to the right language and also  
google would be able to find these other languages. If I configure  
google to only return results in German and search for Wine I get  
German Wikipedia entries as a result but not a link to winehq.org in  
German. At least not on the first results page.





* Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?

Also, the link to the next page still says 'Wine's History: Next'
instead of 'L'historique de Wine: Suivant'. So maybe links are not
localizable? (it could also be that the translation is missing)


That's just a missing translation.

Cheers,
-Maik




Re: More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Frédéric Delanoy
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Francois Gouget wrote:
>  * What's the right way to handle out of date translation?
>   Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file?
>   Consider each language to be completely independent from the others?
>   (i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently
>   developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the
>   Wikipedia articles)

IMO if the translation is out-of-date, a "warning box" should be displayed, but
the original translation should remain (better than nothing after all)




Re: More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Scott Ritchie
Francois Gouget wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:
> 
>> I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular
>> pages.  In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
>>
>> The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview
>> of the project.
> 
> Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I 
> got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the language 
> on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable 
> to expect). So this raises two questions:
> 
>  * What's the right way to handle out of date translation?
>Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file?
>Consider each language to be completely independent from the others? 
>(i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently 
>developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the 
>Wikipedia articles)
> 

Since from what I can tell the non-english content on the site is still
more or less direct translations it would be nice to at least notify
translators when they're out of date.  If they think the text they have
is still better then that's fine.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie




Re: More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Nicolas Le Cam
2009/8/4 Francois Gouget :
>  * Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?

Hi François,

You can switch between languages on home page. Link "Français (Changez
la langue)" (which IMHO should be Changer la langue) is below the left
blank square.
It could be a good idea to duplicate this possibility on every pages.

-- 
Nicolas Le Cam




Re: More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-04 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:

> I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular
> pages.  In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
> 
> The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview
> of the project.

Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I 
got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the language 
on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable 
to expect). So this raises two questions:

 * What's the right way to handle out of date translation?
   Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file?
   Consider each language to be completely independent from the others? 
   (i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently 
   developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the 
   Wikipedia articles)

 * Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?

Also, the link to the next page still says 'Wine's History: Next' 
instead of 'L'historique de Wine: Suivant'. So maybe links are not 
localizable? (it could also be that the translation is missing)

-- 
Francois Gouget   http://fgouget.free.fr/
  The last time religion ruled, it was called the dark ages.




More winehq.org improvements and issues: About page now links to articles in the wiki

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Ritchie
I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular
pages.  In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/

The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview
of the project.  On a wide browser window, however, it looks very
horizontal -- this is fixable with a good picture on the right side of
the screen, however I don't have one ready yet.  It's kind of hard to
capture what Wine is about for a typical user in a single picture, but I
think it may be doable.

Regardless, for users who want more information, the About page now
directly links to 4 separate wiki articles:
- Why Wine is so important
- Common Myths about Wine
- History of the Wine Project
- Organization and Leadership

I'll be personally giving each of these an edit over the coming weeks,
however help is of course appreciated - that's why it's in the wiki.
The last article, in particular, needs to be essentially written from
scratch.

Thanks for your help, especially Newman for committing my patches ;)

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie