Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-23 Thread Kai Blin
On Monday 23 October 2006 14:28, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote:
> >Actually there's now some differences for the German and Austrian sublang
> >spellings of some words. I'm not sure how windows handles the new spelling
> >rules used in Germany now, though.
>
>   I admit I don't know how large are the differances between German and
> Austrian spelling but as Frank Richter wrote there is no problem to
> provide some resources in a  German/Austria translation (I assume the
> resources currently use the German spelling?). IMO the question is what
> would an Austrian user (who have chosen German as his preferred
> language) want to see if there is no such translation: the German
> spelling or English?  I don't know the answer but I'd expect that if the
> differances are minor then German?

I figure it'd be the German version. I think I'll let Frank deal with the 
translations. I usually prefer English. (My current $LANG is C) :)

Cheers,
Kai

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Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-23 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski

Christoph Frick wrote:


He or she wants de; anything else would be like: ``there is no en_UK?
then lets use mongolian!``.
 

 So it looks like SUBLANG_NEUTRAL is the best choice. I could make a 
patch to modify all the sublang code in German files to SUBLANG_NEUTRAL.


Mikolaj Zalewski




Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-23 Thread Christoph Frick
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 02:28:01PM +0200, Miko??aj Zalewski wrote:

> IMO the question is what would an Austrian user (who have chosen
> German as his preferred language) want to see if there is no such
> translation: the German spelling or English?  I don't know the answer
> but I'd expect that if the differances are minor then German?

He or she wants de; anything else would be like: ``there is no en_UK?
then lets use mongolian!``.

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Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-23 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski


Actually there's now some differences for the German and Austrian sublang 
spellings of some words. I'm not sure how windows handles the new spelling 
rules used in Germany now, though.
 

 I admit I don't know how large are the differances between German and 
Austrian spelling but as Frank Richter wrote there is no problem to 
provide some resources in a  German/Austria translation (I assume the 
resources currently use the German spelling?). IMO the question is what 
would an Austrian user (who have chosen German as his preferred 
language) want to see if there is no such translation: the German 
spelling or English?  I don't know the answer but I'd expect that if the 
differances are minor then German?


Mikolaj Zalewski




Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-23 Thread Frank Richter
On 23.10.2006 02:50, Kai Blin wrote:
> On Saturday 21 October 2006 01:18, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote:
>>   As I wrote I've found that there is a mess in wine with the usage of
>> SUBLANG_NEUTRAL and SUBLANG_DEFAULT. I tried to understand when to use
>> which and wrote a wiki page about it:
>> http://wiki.winehq.org/SublangNeutral .
>>   It contains some generic information about it but I thought that it
>> would be best to have also a list of languages for each case. I've took
>> the wine languages list and sorted the obvious cases.
> 
> Actually there's now some differences for the German and Austrian sublang 
> spellings of some words. I'm not sure how windows handles the new spelling 
> rules used in Germany now, though.

Judging from the wiki page, a German/Default resource would not be
considered when looking e.g. for a German/Austria resource. Hence I'd
use German/Neutral for most resources and add a specific resource like
German/Austria or German/Swiss when there would be relevant differences
in spelling or such. (A bit like English/US and English/UK, tho
English/US is nevertheless special since it's a hardcoded fallback.)

-f.r.





Re: When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-22 Thread Kai Blin
On Saturday 21 October 2006 01:18, Mikołaj Zalewski wrote:
>   As I wrote I've found that there is a mess in wine with the usage of
> SUBLANG_NEUTRAL and SUBLANG_DEFAULT. I tried to understand when to use
> which and wrote a wiki page about it:
> http://wiki.winehq.org/SublangNeutral .
>   It contains some generic information about it but I thought that it
> would be best to have also a list of languages for each case. I've took
> the wine languages list and sorted the obvious cases.

Actually there's now some differences for the German and Austrian sublang 
spellings of some words. I'm not sure how windows handles the new spelling 
rules used in Germany now, though.

Cheers,
Kai

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When to use SUBLANG_NEUTRAL

2006-10-20 Thread Mikołaj Zalewski
 As I wrote I've found that there is a mess in wine with the usage of 
SUBLANG_NEUTRAL and SUBLANG_DEFAULT. I tried to understand when to use 
which and wrote a wiki page about it: 
http://wiki.winehq.org/SublangNeutral .
 It contains some generic information about it but I thought that it 
would be best to have also a list of languages for each case. I've took 
the wine languages list and sorted the obvious cases. There are however 
7 languages which have many sublangs and I don't know if they should 
have one generic translation or be translated into each sublang. If 
someone knowing one of these languages could Cut&Paste the language from 
the "undecided" list to one of the lists, I think it would help.


Mikolaj Zalewski