[WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'

2006-04-26 Thread Dawn DiPietro

All,

I thought this word be of interest to the group.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
Says bill would promote affordable rural networks
Posted: 7:36 AM, Apr. 25, 2006
Last Updated: 7:45 AM, Apr. 25, 2006

By KTVZ.com news sources

WASHINGTON - Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., addressed the National 
Telecommunications Cooperative Association's Legislative and Policy 
Conference on Tuesday and outlined his Broadband for America Act of 
2006. The proposal is a ‘disciplined' and ‘directed' piece of 
legislation that the Senate can swiftly pass to promote the construction 
of new broadband networks in rural America.


To succeed in a global marketplace American firms need access to 
affordable broadband networks, Smith said. Leaving outdated laws on 
the books stalls job creation and inhibits the introduction of wireless 
technology that can be utilized in parts of America today's technology 
will never reach. Today's laws choke job creation with regulation and 
hold back innovation that proves time and time again to improve 
consumer's options.


Senator Smith's legislation promotes the construction of broadband 
infrastructure by addressing the following critical issues:


--Burdensome Video Regulations: Will allow wireline video providers to 
compete on equal footing by freeing them of unnecessary federal, state, 
and local regulations that have inhibited their entrance into the 
market. The legislation maintains local authority over rights of way and 
local programming requirements.


--Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million 
a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are 
reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company 
capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and 
low income households would be exempted.


--Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service 
Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to 
continue.


--Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer 
affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or 
will not provide service.


--Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue final 
rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed basis 
along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference. Final 
rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially in rural 
areas too expensive to serve by wire.


Smith noted, The Broadband for America Act is a targeted legislative 
package that draws on the best thinking of Senators Rockefeller, Dorgan 
Allen, Snowe, Lautenberg, McCain and myself. The bill combines my Video 
Choice Act and Universal Service for the 21st Century Act with Senator 
Allen's Wireless Innovation Act, Senator Snowe's Anti-Deficiency Act 
bill and Senator Lautenberg and McCain's Community Broadband Act.



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Re: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'

2006-04-26 Thread Dawn DiPietro

All,

A link to the bill mentioned in the article below.

http://static.publicknowledge.org/pdf/20060327-house-telecom-print.pdf

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Dawn DiPietro wrote:


All,

I thought this would be of interest to the group.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
Says bill would promote affordable rural networks
Posted: 7:36 AM, Apr. 25, 2006
Last Updated: 7:45 AM, Apr. 25, 2006

By KTVZ.com news sources

WASHINGTON - Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., addressed the National 
Telecommunications Cooperative Association's Legislative and Policy 
Conference on Tuesday and outlined his Broadband for America Act of 
2006. The proposal is a ‘disciplined' and ‘directed' piece of 
legislation that the Senate can swiftly pass to promote the 
construction of new broadband networks in rural America.


To succeed in a global marketplace American firms need access to 
affordable broadband networks, Smith said. Leaving outdated laws on 
the books stalls job creation and inhibits the introduction of 
wireless technology that can be utilized in parts of America today's 
technology will never reach. Today's laws choke job creation with 
regulation and hold back innovation that proves time and time again to 
improve consumer's options.


Senator Smith's legislation promotes the construction of broadband 
infrastructure by addressing the following critical issues:


--Burdensome Video Regulations: Will allow wireline video providers to 
compete on equal footing by freeing them of unnecessary federal, 
state, and local regulations that have inhibited their entrance into 
the market. The legislation maintains local authority over rights of 
way and local programming requirements.


--Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 
million a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private 
investment are reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include 
any company capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low 
volume users and low income households would be exempted.


--Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal 
Service Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the 
E-rate to continue.


--Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and 
offer affordable broadband service in areas where private companies 
cannot or will not provide service.


--Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue 
final rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed 
basis along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference. 
Final rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially 
in rural areas too expensive to serve by wire.


Smith noted, The Broadband for America Act is a targeted legislative 
package that draws on the best thinking of Senators Rockefeller, 
Dorgan Allen, Snowe, Lautenberg, McCain and myself. The bill combines 
my Video Choice Act and Universal Service for the 21st Century Act 
with Senator Allen's Wireless Innovation Act, Senator Snowe's 
Anti-Deficiency Act bill and Senator Lautenberg and McCain's Community 
Broadband Act.



http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=oregonstoryID=9996
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RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'

2006-04-26 Thread chris cooper

--Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million

a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are 
reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company 
capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and 
low income households would be exempted.

1. So who determines what/how/when the areas private investment is
neglecting?
2. Who has access to the $500 million to build infrastructure
3. Sounds like some folks are tagging a rider in to take a shot at VOIP

--Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service

Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to 
continue.

--Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer 
affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or 
will not provide service.

1. See #1 above

Call me paranoid, but parts of this smell a little fishy.

Chris
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RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-26 Thread Brad Larson
HP has a Wireless Engineering Group acting as an integrator for Muni
Projects. Alvarion has worked with them on several projects. Brad

-Original Message-
From: Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

What is really funny is that they used Hewlett Packard. Why not Cisco, 
Alvarion, Tranzeo. These are some of the people who are suppose to know 
what they are doing.
BTW I am a certified HP Computer and printer tech. but still I think 
they know what they are doing. KICKBACK

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 roflol

 The city is selling signal boosters (I read that as amps) to anyone 
 that wants them for $170?

 Oh man, this deployment is gonna come CRASHING down.  Hard.

 It's really too bad these people are too ignorant, stubborn or just 
 plain stupid to call any of us in to help.

 sigh

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 - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:07 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes


 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups

 I am not a fan of muni wireless.

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RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-26 Thread Brad Larson
I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these
projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there
are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will
get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per
square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll
need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the
Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different
create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the
wireless network experts have advised and a whole new overlay of problems
surface.

There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering
whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO.
How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a convenience
or hotspot extension to what it has become today where it is seen as the
4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for
public safety or city workers? 

I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square
mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base
stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the
cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the
restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And
I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a
waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the start
of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless
industry. 

But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks actually
works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and serves
the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad

-Original Message-
From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes


-Original Message-
From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

John J. Thomas wrote:
 inline...

 
 First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many
simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved
down their throats.
 

I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals.

George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some
facts;
1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified
network Integrator.
2. Cities have approached US to install their networks
3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations
100,000 and smaller.
4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers,
first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second.



But how many local wisps have been chosen to date?
I bet Joe laura in NO got passed over without much consideration to him.
Joe is on this list, let him chime in here.

 Second, the cities are mostly going to use 2.4 GHz for access and 5.7-5.8
GHz for backhauls. WISP's will need to use 5.25-5.25 GHz and 900 MHz.
 

Almost every wisp today is using 2.4 to reach the customer and 5 gig for 
infrastructure and high end customers. Are you saying that wisps have to 
move off the existing spectrum and replace their equipment?

I am not saying that WISPS have to move off of 2.4. I am saying that if
WISPs want to provide top quality service, then they may need to move off of
2.4 as it is getting crowded in lots of areas.

 
 In a word, service. The city will only be offering WiFi access-period.
They won't be going out to peoples houses and doing installs, fixing virii,
doing firewalls, etc.
 

Here is a scenario, if a potential customer who is on the fence while 
deciding to go to broadband was to hear that a new muni free wifi system 
is going to come on line or he can buy now with his local wisp, which 
choice is the average consumer going to make?

Most are going to try the muni first. Some are going to be unsatisfied and
will look for a better deal. I'll give you an example. I had 384k SDSL to my
house and it was costing me $152 per month. In order to save money, I
dropped the SDSL in favor of a cable modem. The cable modem can do 6 meg
down and about 384k up for $43 per month and has been verified by
DSLreports. Even my wife thinks the SDSL was better, I just couldn't afford
it anymore. If someone in Antioch CA were even offering wireless service at
$42 per month, I would be there. There is a subset of people that want
quality, and are willing to pay for it. Two questions come up-can you
deliver and are there enough to keep you from starving?




The support scenario happens long after the fact.

George
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[WISPA] Fw: Nighthawk Systems Wireless Rebooting Solutions

2006-04-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
No paging systems around here.  But the rest of you may be able to make use 
of this.  I've seen these, pretty cool stuff.


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To: 'Angelica Rosa' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:00 AM
Subject: Nighthawk Systems Wireless Rebooting Solutions



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Re: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'

2006-04-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

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- Original Message - 
From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'




--Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million

a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are 
reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company 
capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and 
low income households would be exempted.


1. So who determines what/how/when the areas private investment is
neglecting?
2. Who has access to the $500 million to build infrastructure
3. Sounds like some folks are tagging a rider in to take a shot at VOIP

--Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service

Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to 
continue.


--Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer 
affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or 
will not provide service.


1. See #1 above

Call me paranoid, but parts of this smell a little fishy.

Chris
Intelliwave


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[WISPA] 4.9 space

2006-04-26 Thread chris cooper








Can a commercial wisp use 4.9 spectrum with cooperation with
public safety agencies? Public Saftey holds the license and the wisp builds the
network, splits off bandwidth for the agency and uses some of the bandwidth
for commercial purposes.



Thanks

chris






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Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP.

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fix the link...you need to paste the et.html on the end in the browser...

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
  unable page.
 
  JohnnyO wrote:
 
  We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
  provided
 
  We are currently unable to serve your request
 
  We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
  completed.
 
  This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
  believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 
  Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
  we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
  google map for WISPS
 
  please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
 
  thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
  bob kim
 
  GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread Rick Harnish
Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP.

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fix the link...you need to paste the et.html on the end in the
browser...

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
  unable page.
 
  JohnnyO wrote:
 
  We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
  provided
 
  We are currently unable to serve your request
 
  We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
  completed.
 
  This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
  believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 
  Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
  we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
  google map for WISPS
 
  please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
 
  thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
  bob kim
 
  GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h
tml
 
 
 
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Suite 203
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
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[WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread chris cooper








Has anyone had any experience = or  with the Tranzeo 5a
32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about
reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise.



Thanks,

Chris






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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread Rick Harnish
Robert, 

Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?

Rick Harnish
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260-918-4340 VoIP
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP.

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fix the link...you need to paste the et.html on the end in the
browser...

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
  unable page.
 
  JohnnyO wrote:
 
  We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
  provided
 
  We are currently unable to serve your request
 
  We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
  completed.
 
  This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
  believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 
  Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
  we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
  google map for WISPS
 
  please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
 
  thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
  bob kim
 
  GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h
tml
 
 
 
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Suite 203
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
206 984 0880
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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Feels like it, 

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

Lol



On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert, 
 
 Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?
 
 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482 Office
 260-307-4000 Cell
 260-918-4340 VoIP
 www.oibw.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Rick Harnish
 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do
this.
 
 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482 Office
 260-307-4000 Cell
 260-918-4340 VoIP
 www.oibw.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
 http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/
 
 I will be adding a instructional box stating that for
 
 FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
 HSDPA.
 For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP.
 
 agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
 field in the system.
 
 On 4/20/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fix the link...you need to paste the et.html on the end in the
 browser...
 
 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 
 same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
 unable page.
 
 JohnnyO wrote:
 
 We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
 provided
 
 We are currently unable to serve your request
 
 We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
 completed.
 
 This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
 believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
 Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 
 Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
 we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
 google map for WISPS
 
 please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
 
 thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
 bob kim
 
 GOOGLEMAP:

http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h
 tml
 
 
 
 --
 Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor
 http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
 Suite 203
 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
 206 984 0880


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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread Jory Privett



Please reply onlist as I would be interested 
also.

Jory Privett
WCCS

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris 
  cooper 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
  
  
  Has anyone had any experience = or 
  – with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles 
  respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those 
  distances. Hit me off list if you can advise.
  
  Thanks,
  Chris
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread JohnnyO
Robert - get in touch with me - I'll host your site for you free of
charge.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!


team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any
WISP.

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fix the link...you need to paste the et.html on the end in the 
 browser...

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the 
  other unable page.
 
  JohnnyO wrote:
 
  We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you 
  provided
 
  We are currently unable to serve your request
 
  We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be 
  completed.
 
  This error has been logged. If you have additional information that

  you believe may have caused this error please report the problem 
  here.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim 
  Wireless Internet Advisor
  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
 
 
  Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
  we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
  google map for WISPS
 
  please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
 
  thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new 
  design... bob kim
 
  GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-s
et.html
 
 
 
--
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http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com
http://evdo-coverage.com
2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
Suite 203
Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
206 984 0880
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Title: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH



The biggest issue I have heard or seen with tranzeo BHs is if you are running a flat network ( ie your pops are not routed @ the edge ) they have a lot of trouble passing a large bridge table.

-

Jeff



On 4/26/06 12:21 PM, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please reply onlist as I would be interested also.
 
Jory Privett
WCCS
 
- Original Message - 

From: chris cooper mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org 

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 PM

Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH





Has anyone had any experience = or  with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise.
 


Thanks,
 
Chris
 

 





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RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Here 
isone possible source for the information that you are looking 
for

http://www.cwlab.com/testing_criteria.htm

-Charles

---CWLabTechnology 
Architectshttp://www.cwlab.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  chris cooperSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 
  PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 
  BH
  
  Has anyone had any experience = or 
   with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles 
  respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those 
  distances. Hit me off list if you can advise.
  
  Thanks,
  Chris
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[WISPA] Auction 66

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Smith








http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_summaryid=66



Can anyone tell me anything about this auction?









Steve Smith

Chase 3000

Imperial, NE
 69033

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

308 882-3000












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RE: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Smith
Yes, it is a required step in applying for a grant/loan from RUS.  This is
your opportunity to let RUS know you exist, which from last time I looked at
it made the applicant must less likely to get the grant/loan if you already
provide in the area they are asking for help in.


Steve Smith
Chase 3000
Imperial, NE 69033
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
308 882-3000


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:15 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Cc: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

anyone seen anything like this before?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants?




Don't you provide service here?:

LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant 
under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being 
administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United 
States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective 
applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits

upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following 
communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone 
Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, 
Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, 
Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, 
Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days

from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently 
providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to 
provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should

submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential 
customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the 
rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof 
of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should 
also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to 
the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from 
RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 
04/18/2006.)


ryan 

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

2006-04-26 Thread Brian Whigham

Marlon,
I have not seen one; but I have heard of them.  I feel silly addressing 
you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list.


Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding 
options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband 
conference that I attended this past fall 
(http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm).  One must ensure (due 
dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the 
area.  It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in 
order to qualify for the loan.


The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only.  They can 
not be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth.  And they can't be 
used for salaries.  Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to 
qualify for.  And they can be for large amounts.


I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below.

Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
888-770-3421
www.yondernetworks.com

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


anyone seen anything like this before?

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants?




Don't you provide service here?:

LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective 
applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee 
Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities 
Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are 
required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide 
broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State 
of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, 
Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East 
Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig 
Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, 
Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. 
Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of 
this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing 
broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to 
provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers 
should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of 
residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed 
service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each 
level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the 
proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the 
boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. 
A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at 
www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.)



ryan



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[WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?

2006-04-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Interesting.  I guess that the Form 477 doesn't count for this?  Many of 
those cities (most???) in Washington are already well covered!


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?



Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.?
They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities
throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices
that I have found however, based on search engine results,
it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in
Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are
a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for
RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing
the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their
application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate
where they are based or their contact information. I searched
bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of
these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company.

There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices
below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want
to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they
are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's
need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is
attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already
has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the
necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away
for areas that already have broadband available whether the
area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC.

North Carolina:
http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf

South Carolina:
http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985

Maine:
http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNoticeAdId=91346

Colorado:
http://tinyurl.com/g99rl

Connecticut:
http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNoticeAdId=93998

Idaho:
http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browsecat=Personalscode=018
http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous

Nevada:
http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcanui=tba=850526

Rhode Island:
http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm

Vermont:
http://tinyurl.com/ghruo

Iowa:
http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm

Georgia:
http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm

Texas:
http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detailmain=LEGALS

Kentucky:
contact me off list and I will e-mail you a scanned copy of a
local newspaper notice placed by their company


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KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
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RE: [WISPA] Auction 66

2006-04-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz



http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_factsheetid=66

Faisal ImtiazSnappyDSL.net



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
SmithSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:26 PMTo: 'WISPA 
General List'Subject: [WISPA] Auction 66


http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_summaryid=66

Can anyone tell me anything about 
this auction?




Steve 
Smith
Chase 
3000
Imperial, NE 69033
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
308 
882-3000


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[WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Funny Guys.. really fuy Rick!
any hows... my goal here is to get the public the RIGHT kind of
internet service for their needs...

True MOBILE Broadband Synch / low latency is still years off...

so... Im planning to add a note:

for FIXED Wireless Broadband, contact a WISP.
for Mobile Wireless Internet, contact evdo-coverage.com
A WISP can deliver much faster connection speeds than EVDO at wire
line latencies. 3g Such as EVDO and HSDPA are only medium speed on the
download stream and thin band on the uploads.

Can You Guys gimme any speeds to quote???

ps... thanks for the free hosting offer... suuuper cool of you
JohnnyO! will advise

re hover text..:
in Satelite mode.. the hover text is clear.. so i gotta do a
conditional color filter...


Newest Revision
Alpha Version:
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com

On 4/26/06, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lol



 On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Robert,
 
  Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?
 
  Rick Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 Office
  260-307-4000 Cell
  260-918-4340 VoIP



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Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

2006-04-26 Thread Blake Bowers

How long after someone is approved do they have to
build out?  IE, if they don't build out their system after a
year or two, what happens to that money, whether it be a
grant or a loan guarantee?


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Whigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?



Marlon,
I have not seen one; but I have heard of them.  I feel silly addressing 
you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list.


Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding 
options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband 
conference that I attended this past fall 
(http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm).  One must ensure (due 
dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the 
area.  It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in order 
to qualify for the loan.


The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only.  They can not 
be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth.  And they can't be used 
for salaries.  Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to qualify for. 
And they can be for large amounts.


I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below.

Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
888-770-3421
www.yondernetworks.com

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


anyone seen anything like this before?

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- Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants?




Don't you provide service here?:

LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant 
under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being 
administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United 
States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective 
applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 
kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the 
following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, 
Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East 
Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, 
Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, 
Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service 
providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP 
if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if 
they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent 
broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed 
by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service 
in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the 
cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service 
in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the 
boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A 
Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at 
www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.)



ryan



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[WISPA] FS: Remote Reboot

2006-04-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Title: FS: Remote Reboot






FS : Nighthawk system NH1 Pager based remote AC rebooter with vhf paging receiver, 6 units available, great price

Offlist for more info

For sale cause couldnt make it work with local alphanumeric paging company, just works with numeric service

Gino A. Villarini

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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145




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[WISPA] Reseller Agreement

2006-04-26 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Title: Reseller Agreement






Anyone have a Reseller agreement for share, we will be wholesaling our services to another company and would like to get an idea

Gino A. Villarini

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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145




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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH

2006-04-26 Thread Anthony Morin
I have a Tranzeo 5a 32 link that is 19 miles. Signal levels are in the low to mid 70's and TX rates stays at 54Meg. I would consider it pretty reliable especially for the money.  chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
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Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space

2006-04-26 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


However, no public traffic can run over the network.

You can use a public network to feed a 4.9 system that you manage 
for the license holder.  You can NOT use 4.9 to transport public 
traffic though.


Don't take this like I don't believe what you are saying...This is 
just a question.


Trango is offering a new mesh solution that they call HD Mesh. 
From what I understand, it is targeted for muni-wireless deployment. 
It uses 2.4GHz AP and 4.9GHz backhaul.  If what you say is correct, 
is this system then limited to be used ONLY by the municipality and 
no other end users may connect to it?


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RE: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?

2006-04-26 Thread Chad Halsted
And Arkansas...

This is was posted in www.ardemgaz.com (Arkansas Democrat Gazette) today
under the Notices section of the paper.  You may want to check your
paper today.



LEGAL NOTICE 
OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC. 
We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and
Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development,
Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We
are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to
provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the
State of Arkansas in the following communities: 
Arkadelphia, Batesville, Bentonville, Blytheville, Bryant, Cabot,
DeQueen, Dumas, East End, Greenwood, Harrison, Heber Springs, Hope, Hot
Springs Village, Lowell, Magnolia, Marion, Monticello, Morrilton,
Stuttgart, Van Buren, Waynne 
Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this
Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband
service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service
in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to
RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers
receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of
data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of
commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should
also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation
to the communities above. 
A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at
www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. 
37055620f 
[37055620]

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: wireless@wispa.org; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?

Interesting.  I guess that the Form 477 doesn't count for this?  Many of

those cities (most???) in Washington are already well covered!

Marlon
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- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?


 Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.?
 They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities
 throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices
 that I have found however, based on search engine results,
 it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in
 Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are
 a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for
 RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing
 the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their
 application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate
 where they are based or their contact information. I searched
 bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of
 these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company.

 There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices
 below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want
 to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they
 are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's
 need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is
 attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already
 has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the
 necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away
 for areas that already have broadband available whether the
 area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC.

 North Carolina:
 http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf

 South Carolina:
 http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985

 Maine:

http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNoticeAdId=91
346

 Colorado:
 http://tinyurl.com/g99rl

 Connecticut:

http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNoticeAdId=93
998

 Idaho:
 http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browsecat=Personalscode=018
 http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous

 Nevada:
 http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcanui=tba=850526

 Rhode Island:
 http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm

 Vermont:
 http://tinyurl.com/ghruo

 Iowa:
 http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm

 Georgia:
 http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm

 Texas:
 http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detailmain=LEGALS

 Kentucky:
 contact me off list and I will e-mail you a scanned copy of a
 local newspaper notice placed by their company


 Shannon D. 

RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'

2006-04-26 Thread Chad Halsted
What do they mean by White Spaces?

 --Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue 
 final rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed

 basis along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference.

 Final rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially 
 in rural areas too expensive to serve by wire.
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Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-26 Thread Rudolph Worrell
Please send your money as we are backordered for development.  Will send 
product as soon as we can fill the order. LOL.

Quoting Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'll take 200.
 
 Rudolph Worrell wrote:
 
 I am reading all of these posts and I see one thing here.  Marketing! There
 is 
 little sense to this but a great deal of marketing being done for Mesh, 4.9,
 
 and Muni WiFi.  I see out of town guys chime in all the time and express how
 
 well they can deploy and integrate networks.  I am very curious about the 
 actual implementations they have done that involved a large mountain ranges
 
 with customers spaced every 5 miles who are behind trees, or has some 
 obstruction to any towers.  Better yet a neighborhood with devices on the
 same 
 frequencies that you cannot control.  My guess is that their lab and specs
 of 
 their devices looks great but the actual deployment is a different story. 
 We 
 all know that 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and 5.8Ghz, all have their limitations, and
 will 
 perform perhaps 10% to 20% worst than advertised.  Do these guys know that?
 
 
 As for the marketing bit, I have a 2.4Ghz wireless device that can
 communicate 
 at 100 mph, at distances of 100mi from the tower using 60foot dishes, giving
 a 
 throughput of 200Mbps.  It sells for $50,000.00 per Clieint bridge and 
 $600,000.00 per AP.  Who wants to buy?
 
 
 Quoting Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   
 
 Well to one-up you,
 Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh 
 Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters.
 What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen 
 words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the
 GAB.
 
 You have a Good Day now,
 
 
 Carl A Jeptha
 http://www.airnet.ca
 office 905 349-2084
 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
 skype cajeptha
 
 
 
 Brad Larson wrote:
 
 
 I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these
 projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say
   
 
 there
 
 
 are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many
   
 
 will
 
 
 get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per
 square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll
 need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of
 the
 Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are
 different
 create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the
 wireless network experts have advised and a whole new overlay of
   
 
 problems
 
 
 surface.
 
 There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering
 whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch
   
 
 IMHO.
 
 
 How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a
 convenience
 or hotspot extension to what it has become today where it is seen as the
 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for
 public safety or city workers? 
 
 I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square
 mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base
 stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the
 cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the
 restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And
 I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty
 much
   
 
 a
 
 
 waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the
   
 
 start
 
 
 of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless
 industry. 
 
 But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks
   
 
 actually
 
 
 works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and
   
 
 serves
 
 
 the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
 
 
   
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
 
 John J. Thomas wrote:
 
 
 
 inline...
   
 First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many
   
   
 
 simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi
 shoved
 down their throats.
   
   
 
 I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals.
 
 
 
 George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some
 facts;
 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified
 network Integrator.
 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks
 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably