[WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration Posted on: 07/25/2006 Transcender, a division of Kaplan IT Learning that helps individuals and organizations prepare for technology certifications, has partnered with the CWNP (Certified Wireless Network Professional) program to become an authorized third-party practice-test provider for the CWNA WLAN administration certification exam for IT professionals. The CWNP program is an industry standard for WLAN training and certification. IT professionals in 90 countries have received CWNP certification, and more than 20 Wi-Fi companies have become technology partners in the program, according to the company. Transcender's exam simulations mirror questions, explanations and references on the actual exam. CWNP Program www.cwnp.com Kaplan IT Learning www.kaplanitlearning.com Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
So this is the same as A+ certification and the word WIFI. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Peter R. wrote: Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration Posted on: 07/25/2006 Transcender, a division of Kaplan IT Learning that helps individuals and organizations prepare for technology certifications, has partnered with the CWNP (Certified Wireless Network Professional) program to become an authorized third-party practice-test provider for the CWNA WLAN administration certification exam for IT professionals. The CWNP program is an industry standard for WLAN training and certification. IT professionals in 90 countries have received CWNP certification, and more than 20 Wi-Fi companies have become technology partners in the program, according to the company. Transcender's exam simulations mirror questions, explanations and references on the actual exam. CWNP Program www.cwnp.com Kaplan IT Learning www.kaplanitlearning.com Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
The CWNA, CWSP, and CWNP exams have been published by Planet3.com for a good while now. (I passed on March 3, 2005). It's a good test. The objective list is here: http://www.cwnp.com/exams/pw0100_objectives.htmlOn 7/26/06, Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN AdministrationPosted on: 07/25/2006-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
The study guide, anyway, is an excellent reference. That and Jack Unger's book. On 7/26/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So this is the same as A+ certification and the word WIFI.You have a Good Day now, -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets
The other day, I was trying to configure the mtu setting on a Mikrotik, and even though the manual said it supports up to 1600-byte -- the interface configuration won't let me set anything above 1500 Anyone? Tricks? Thoughts? Suggestions? (Tom -- you mentioned in the post that you tested Mikrotik w/ large packets)? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K I only mentioned Mikrotik as its abilty to pass large packets has been tested. I believe we couldn't do that with StarOS as a limitation of Wifi clients (although not positive, as I did not investigate WDS options on StarOS which allows the large packets and full passing bridge features.) With that asside, I guess it would be fair to consider StarOS, Ikarus, and Mikrotik as the same class product. I actually wanted to classify it by hardware class such as OEM Atheros products. But technically thatdefinition would include Alvarion. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Hi Tom, Not to add another chink to your debate -- but it is worth noting that Mikrotik is more of a jack of all trades solution (they do routing, hotspot, etc) than a wireless solution While they do an ok job w/ wireless, IMO, their strength is more the convenience coming from the integration of multiple packages and its flexibility rather than the performance of any single feature If you're looking at purely a wireless solution (in this do-it-yourself genre) -- you need to include Star-OS / Ikarus in your evaluation (but then, documentation gets a bit sparse there...) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Paul, Although many have reported very high speeds with Mikrotik. Our live tests in noisy environments (wether accepted as accurate or not) showed we were not able to get the peak speeds out of Mikrotik where we could get them from Alvarion. Our comparative tests were done with the Alvarion ver 3 firmware (not 4 yet). The Alvarion speeds that we got were right on the numbers with the speeds test Alvarion tech support sent us. Actually our tested speeds were a bit higher in some some cases. (Take note we only got accurate speeds when we hard set modulation to optimal (picked the best one for the situation) modulation for testing). I do not mean this as a negative comment on Mikrotik. Our competition to Alvarion is NOT Trango, Trango does not yet have a 20 mbps product for PtMP. We look at our Trango as the best choice to tackle the worse noisy environments (for us almost everywhere :-) Our competition for Alvarion is actually Mikrotik. Mikrotik probably has the single highest value from a feature cost perspective. Why pay Alvarion price, when Mikrotik can do almost the same thing at a fraction of the cost. Mikrotik has changed this market and forced competing vendors to look at how to be more competitive. Mikrotik is doing what Trango did 4 years ago to drive the price down. (I'd argue that Trango is still doing it also). It will be real interesting to see how Alvarion performs side by side to Mikrotik. The initial look show to me that Alvarion adds significant features that make it the premium choice, possibly the leader in OFDM today, if price not part of the consideration. However, Mikrotik's flexibilty and price clearly will keep them a major player for many WISPs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Are these figures in the lab? I have seen similar with a Mikrotik/N-Streme solution. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 16 June 2006 19:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K So I have more data for you Matt I just received about what firmware 4.0 delivers in terms of frame sizes and what it can mean to the business case. Remember, this is multipoint, not PtP. All
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
That's fine if you have enough potential customers to saturate your ap's at the 11 meg speed. Out here we'll take anything we can get. If it slows down to 1 meg for a customer that's still much better than his dialup was. We have VERY few customers that get less than 1 meg of actual speed. Even in high interference zones that have 40ish users per ap. Got some folks in an area that are below the main omni beam that only get 600ish, but that same system will deliver 3+ megs further out or up a bit higher. Go figure. As cheap as ap's are getting we just keep sectorizing out to smaller and smaller customer groups. That's helping a lot of things. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems The idea is to not do the install unless you can maintain a reliable 11mb connection (usually -75 or better) that passes the 0% loss rule. So, having done that, you shouldn't drop customers. Or at least that is what I have been taught, I could be misinformed. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems We almost never hard set any radios to any speed. I'd rather have the system slow down than drop customers. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems If you haven't run a test with a spectrum analyzer, there really is no way to know for sure what is out there. Harmful noise, as you probably know, can come from all sorts of devices, not just 802.x APs. Yes, -90 is bad for several reasons. 1. That link is probably suffering from high packet loss. This will not only cause problems for the customer's link, but will keep your AP busy resending dropped packets. One customer isn't going to overload an AP, but several could. 2. -90 doesn't leave much room for fade. Bad weather could, and most likely will, knock this link out in a heart beat. 3. The rate at which the client and AP talk at a -90 would be 1MB. Whenever the AP is talking to the client it will have to adjust its rate to match that of the client's. When another client, let's say it's connected at an 11mb rate, wants to talk the AP has to adjust its rate to 11mb, these constant adjustments can cause latency, dropped packets, and overload the CPU on the AP. This is more evident with the more clients you have. Always set your AP rate to auto, hard set all clients to 11MB. Just make sure you don't do the install unless it will support an 11MB rate. Lastly, I would suggest that you test each and every link for packet loss sending large packets, 0% or less and you'll be good to go. I could be way off; your -90 client may be working perfectly. I just thought I would share some info that I had to learn the hard way. Good Luck!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Interference really isn't much of an issue here. There's one other WISP and we work pretty closely together to stay out of each other's way. We've analyzed the area and nothing else is out there but us and the typical home APs. So -90 is that bad huh? Guess I may need to rethink those two installs. - Original Message - From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems No personal experience on the X10, but from what I here, it will give you nightmares. Seems like I heard Marlon speak such wonderful things about the x10 before, eh Marlon? -90 signal is never a good thing. We won't do an install unless it's -75 or better. Sometimes even a -75 isn't strong enough to combat all the interference we have in town. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a marginal customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. I haven't figured out my issues completely from my original post, but they have actually cleared up somewhat. I'm starting to actually wonder if I have either a bad AP, or if I have water issues as it seems like it was acting up in the middle of the afternoon, and then again later at night. Beyond that, we have good solid consistent ping times (5ms or less) to all clients (yes, even the one with a -90). But, again, haven't had any problems in about a week. Waiting for it to cool down a bit before we put in our backhaul (this POP is on top of a water tower). Which brings another question, how high from the top of a water tower would you recommed mounting the antenna? It's a PacWireless 13db Omni-horizontal. It's a cylinder tower. Right now the antenna is mounted directly onto the ladder railing on top. We're going to raise it up 5' or so when we put in the backhaul too. I'm thinking that may help keep things clean too, as well as give me just a bit more range with it (one side is partially blocked by the dome on the top middle of the tower). - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems That's fine if you have enough potential customers to saturate your ap's at the 11 meg speed. Out here we'll take anything we can get. If it slows down to 1 meg for a customer that's still much better than his dialup was. We have VERY few customers that get less than 1 meg of actual speed. Even in high interference zones that have 40ish users per ap. Got some folks in an area that are below the main omni beam that only get 600ish, but that same system will deliver 3+ megs further out or up a bit higher. Go figure. As cheap as ap's are getting we just keep sectorizing out to smaller and smaller customer groups. That's helping a lot of things. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems The idea is to not do the install unless you can maintain a reliable 11mb connection (usually -75 or better) that passes the 0% loss rule. So, having done that, you shouldn't drop customers. Or at least that is what I have been taught, I could be misinformed. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems We almost never hard set any radios to any speed. I'd rather have the system slow down than drop customers. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems If you haven't run a test with a spectrum analyzer, there really is no way to know for sure what is out there. Harmful noise, as you probably know, can come from all sorts of devices, not just 802.x APs. Yes, -90 is bad for several reasons. 1. That link is probably suffering from high packet loss. This will not only cause problems for the customer's link, but will keep your AP busy resending dropped packets. One customer isn't going to overload an AP, but several could. 2. -90 doesn't leave much room for fade. Bad weather could, and most likely will, knock this link out in a heart beat. 3. The rate at
[WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure
Sony SNCFDP8C2/SY Outdoor Clear Dome Housing. It will take Sony NorthAmerica three weeks to get them. I require 5. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Jason Hensley wrote: So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a marginal customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. Jason, one thing you have to remember is your system is only as good as your weakest link. If you put on a sub who is marginally connected he will pull your ap down when he is busy downloading etc. A link that has no traffic running across it regardless of how weak or marginal it is won't have an effect until he starts passing traffic. Then all hell will break loose. The best strategy is always install solid links and if you do have to hook someone up that will be marginal, make sure it's very temporary and you have an alternative link for it in the near future. I have had to hook up subs that were marginal, but when I do It's because I'm just trying to land the sub and have a game plan like putting in a 900MHz system or maybe a new micro pop repeater to re feed him in the near future. Hope this is helpful George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
I appreciate it. We're looking hard at the new 900 stuff from Tranzeo. Gear finally down in the affordable range for me, but, I hate to be one of the first to use it :-) Thanks for everyone's feedback!! - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Jason Hensley wrote: So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a marginal customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. Jason, one thing you have to remember is your system is only as good as your weakest link. If you put on a sub who is marginally connected he will pull your ap down when he is busy downloading etc. A link that has no traffic running across it regardless of how weak or marginal it is won't have an effect until he starts passing traffic. Then all hell will break loose. The best strategy is always install solid links and if you do have to hook someone up that will be marginal, make sure it's very temporary and you have an alternative link for it in the near future. I have had to hook up subs that were marginal, but when I do It's because I'm just trying to land the sub and have a game plan like putting in a 900MHz system or maybe a new micro pop repeater to re feed him in the near future. Hope this is helpful George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Consider the numbers below and then make your decision. At 11 mbps link you can transfer between 5.2 mbps and 6 mbps depending on a number of factors, so let's say 5 mbps for easy math. At 5.5 mbps link you have about 2.5 mbps actual data transfer capability. At 2 mbps link you have about 1.5 mbps data transfer capability. At 1 mbps link you have about 700 kbps data transfer capability. If you allow each customer to have a 1 mbps pipe you can support 5 users at 11 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 30 to 40 normal users with up to 5 real active at any one time. You can support 2 users at 5.5 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 10 to 20 normal users with up to 2 real active at any one time. You can support 1 users at 2 mbps link, at full speed or most likely about 5 to 10 normal users with up to 1 real active at any one time. You cannot support even 1 user at 1 mbps link, at full speed that you allow. Be very aware that 1 user with a 1 mbps link that is allowed to have a 1 mbps pipe will consume EVERY BIT of airtime that you have available. It is just the same as putting in a private link for them, except that you have 20 to 40 other customers who just don't understand why their Internet is so slow. There are still a lot of guys who do not get this simple concept. They want to be the hero and hook up everybody and not install better gear or a tower to get above the trees or whatever. They just want to hook the guy up and rationalize that it is better than dialup. Well maybe it is, but it is a far cry from what you could do and what the other users probably expect. They don't understand why they have sloppy service when they have a clear shot to your tower and you tell them they have excellent signal readings. We insist on each user being able to do at least 10 mbps of actual data transfer. Our pipe is currently a smal 4 mbps, so we are able to have any user consume it all. This makes sure that I do not get a single user killing my wireless and thus leaving unused Internet speed from the 4 mbps. I want that 4 mbps to be available and actually getting used. Our clients are all using Atheros cards and that means we can achieve the 10 mbps transfer with as little as -84 dB signal. I strive to get everybody to at least -75 dB signals and at that point they can can usually do at least 25 mbps of transfer. This is important to us because in 2 weeks I get my 30 mbps FDX fibre feed. The last thing I want is to be paying for 30 mbps and using 4 mbps becasue I tried to provide service when I should have walked away. Lonnie On 7/26/06, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a marginal customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. I haven't figured out my issues completely from my original post, but they have actually cleared up somewhat. I'm starting to actually wonder if I have either a bad AP, or if I have water issues as it seems like it was acting up in the middle of the afternoon, and then again later at night. Beyond that, we have good solid consistent ping times (5ms or less) to all clients (yes, even the one with a -90). But, again, haven't had any problems in about a week. Waiting for it to cool down a bit before we put in our backhaul (this POP is on top of a water tower). Which brings another question, how high from the top of a water tower would you recommed mounting the antenna? It's a PacWireless 13db Omni-horizontal. It's a cylinder tower. Right now the antenna is mounted directly onto the ladder railing on top. We're going to raise it up 5' or so when we put in the backhaul too. I'm thinking that may help keep things clean too, as well as give me just a bit more range with it (one side is partially blocked by the dome on the top middle of the tower). - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems That's fine if you have enough potential customers to saturate your ap's at the 11 meg speed. Out here we'll take anything we can get. If it slows down to 1 meg for a customer that's still
RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets
The Ethernet standard maximum packet size is 1500 bytes (not counting the header). You can use jumbo frames in GigE applications, but not in 10/100, and not all switches support them, because there is no standard. Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets The other day, I was trying to configure the mtu setting on a Mikrotik, and even though the manual said it supports up to 1600-byte -- the interface configuration won't let me set anything above 1500 Anyone? Tricks? Thoughts? Suggestions? (Tom -- you mentioned in the post that you tested Mikrotik w/ large packets)? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K I only mentioned Mikrotik as its abilty to pass large packets has been tested. I believe we couldn't do that with StarOS as a limitation of Wifi clients (although not positive, as I did not investigate WDS options on StarOS which allows the large packets and full passing bridge features.) With that asside, I guess it would be fair to consider StarOS, Ikarus, and Mikrotik as the same class product. I actually wanted to classify it by hardware class such as OEM Atheros products. But technically thatdefinition would include Alvarion. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Hi Tom, Not to add another chink to your debate -- but it is worth noting that Mikrotik is more of a jack of all trades solution (they do routing, hotspot, etc) than a wireless solution While they do an ok job w/ wireless, IMO, their strength is more the convenience coming from the integration of multiple packages and its flexibility rather than the performance of any single feature If you're looking at purely a wireless solution (in this do-it-yourself genre) -- you need to include Star-OS / Ikarus in your evaluation (but then, documentation gets a bit sparse there...) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 5:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Paul, Although many have reported very high speeds with Mikrotik. Our live tests in noisy environments (wether accepted as accurate or not) showed we were not able to get the peak speeds out of Mikrotik where we could get them from Alvarion. Our comparative tests were done with the Alvarion ver 3 firmware (not 4 yet). The Alvarion speeds that we got were right on the numbers with the speeds test Alvarion tech support sent us. Actually our tested speeds were a bit higher in some some cases. (Take note we only got accurate speeds when we hard set modulation to optimal (picked the best one for the situation) modulation for testing). I do not mean this as a negative comment on Mikrotik. Our competition to Alvarion is NOT Trango, Trango does not yet have a 20 mbps product for PtMP. We look at our Trango as the best choice to tackle the worse noisy environments (for us almost everywhere :-) Our competition for Alvarion is actually Mikrotik. Mikrotik probably has the single highest value from a feature cost perspective. Why pay Alvarion price, when Mikrotik can do almost the same thing at a fraction of the cost. Mikrotik has changed this market and forced competing vendors to look at how to be more competitive. Mikrotik is doing what Trango did 4 years ago to drive the price down. (I'd argue that Trango is still doing it also). It will be real interesting to see how Alvarion performs side by side to Mikrotik. The initial look show to me that Alvarion adds significant features that make it the premium choice, possibly the leader in OFDM today, if price not part of the consideration. However, Mikrotik's flexibilty and price clearly will keep them a major player for many WISPs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Are these figures in the lab? I
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
I'm gonna disagree with Lonnie here. Kinda. We agree on the -75 dB thing. But on the number of customers I'm wa on the other side of the fence. Probably on the other side of the pasture too. Just in Odessa here we have something like 50 to 75 subs pulling from a single ap. It's an OLD lucent ap1000. Only an 11 meg radio. It feeds two other repeater sites (those are included in the subscriber count). You can run a speed test here at almost any time you want and my customers get 2 to 3 megs of actual speed out to the internet. 4x+ the actual speed of dsl in town for only $5 per month more. I will agree that marginal links will slow the whole network down. But I try to look at things from a pragmatic standpoint. Not just sales or techie view point. The question for me is, are the customers happy? Are they wanting/needing more? Are the expectations properly set and met? My fiber feed here is peaking at 3 megs today. 3.19 to be exact. But the AVERAGE is only 640k. This circuit feeds 24 pots lines and 150ish wireless subs. NON of whom are on bandwidth shaped links. It's wide open for all of them. Some of the businesses get 8ish megs via a trango system in town too. All systems and all customer bases are different. Us experts in the industry are often very good at telling you how to run our networks. The hard part is that we're all correct :-P. Here's MY rule of thumb for customers per ap. When people start telling me that things aren't as fast as they used to be, I'll put in another one. OR if *I* know I can do a much better job by splitting things off (gonna do that to one system today, only 10ish subs but it's never worked as well as it should so I'm gonna redesign things, again). My one complaining customer on that tower complains about everything though. When I go to his house to test the actual speed it's always good. Maybe I'm working too hard for one squeaky wheel. Too bad he's not only a tech support guy but also a relative! hehehehehehe Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Consider the numbers below and then make your decision. At 11 mbps link you can transfer between 5.2 mbps and 6 mbps depending on a number of factors, so let's say 5 mbps for easy math. At 5.5 mbps link you have about 2.5 mbps actual data transfer capability. At 2 mbps link you have about 1.5 mbps data transfer capability. At 1 mbps link you have about 700 kbps data transfer capability. If you allow each customer to have a 1 mbps pipe you can support 5 users at 11 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 30 to 40 normal users with up to 5 real active at any one time. You can support 2 users at 5.5 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 10 to 20 normal users with up to 2 real active at any one time. You can support 1 users at 2 mbps link, at full speed or most likely about 5 to 10 normal users with up to 1 real active at any one time. You cannot support even 1 user at 1 mbps link, at full speed that you allow. Be very aware that 1 user with a 1 mbps link that is allowed to have a 1 mbps pipe will consume EVERY BIT of airtime that you have available. It is just the same as putting in a private link for them, except that you have 20 to 40 other customers who just don't understand why their Internet is so slow. There are still a lot of guys who do not get this simple concept. They want to be the hero and hook up everybody and not install better gear or a tower to get above the trees or whatever. They just want to hook the guy up and rationalize that it is better than dialup. Well maybe it is, but it is a far cry from what you could do and what the other users probably expect. They don't understand why they have sloppy service when they have a clear shot to your tower and you tell them they have excellent signal readings. We insist on each user being able to do at least 10 mbps of actual data transfer. Our pipe is currently a smal 4 mbps, so we are able to have any user consume it all. This makes sure that I do not get a single user killing my wireless and thus leaving unused Internet speed from the 4 mbps. I want that 4 mbps to be available and actually getting used. Our clients are all using Atheros cards and that means we can achieve the 10 mbps transfer with as little as -84 dB signal. I strive to get everybody to at least -75 dB signals and at
Re: [WISPA] affordable 900 Mhz was Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
So I have to pay double the price for a CPE that has half the band width?? Something don't jive??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mark McElvy wrote: I agree its more affordable, but how do you eat a $400 cpe? ROI is bad enough with a $200 cpe. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems I appreciate it. We're looking hard at the new 900 stuff from Tranzeo. Gear finally down in the affordable range for me, but, I hate to be one of the first to use it :-) Thanks for everyone's feedback!! - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Jason Hensley wrote: So Marlon, using what I perceive to be your ideas below, it's not too bad of a deal to put a "marginal" customer on (maybe not at -90, but maybe -80 or even -85, or do you think -85 is not even good enough?) so long as we have a clean link and we can make it with next to no packet loss? In my situation, I'm selling mainly 512kbps connections. I have a few that want a full meg, and one that may be looking at 3meg shortly, but I've got mainly resi customers at the moment. I'm finding though, that I can beat up on DSL pricing for businesses here so I'm starting to hit that market a little more. But, I need to be sure my system is stable before I really get into this. I appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic. Jason, one thing you have to remember is your system is only as good as your weakest link. If you put on a sub who is marginally connected he will pull your ap down when he is busy downloading etc. A link that has no traffic running across it regardless of how weak or marginal it is won't have an effect until he starts passing traffic. Then all hell will break loose. The best strategy is always install solid links and if you do have to hook someone up that will be marginal, make sure it's very temporary and you have an alternative link for it in the near future. I have had to hook up subs that were marginal, but when I do It's because I'm just trying to land the sub and have a game plan like putting in a 900MHz system or maybe a new micro pop repeater to re feed him in the near future. Hope this is helpful George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure
I'll remember your offer, might have found some in Manhattan NY, Wife and Daughter is offering to drive down to pick them up? I'm confused, they never do anything like this for me :-( Yea right I'm that stupid ( I might be an idiot, but I'm not stupid, maybe I'll see them in 4 days time for a two day trip.) :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: 1 got one 4 sale offlist Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:19 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT - Req. immediate availability on a Sony Outdoor enclosure Sony SNCFDP8C2/SY Outdoor Clear Dome Housing. It will take Sony NorthAmerica three weeks to get them. I require 5. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 25/07/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Yes Marlon, real world is different from the theory (yes, Lonnie I know you run your own ISP). I quote We endeavour to deliver 256kbps, but speed may be up to 4.5 mbps. No Up Ito's, because you will never see it. Depending on who you ask the radios when they have perfect line of sight is actually capable of 11mbps. So I say again, we endeavour to deliver 256kbps, and if on the day of the install we find for what ever reason that we cannot deliver our speed we will remove the equipment and leave, no charge. Most customers' response is, Okay so when will you be installing. My response, we have a two week backlog, we will see if we can fit you in. Customer, Great, I'll see you in two weeks time You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm gonna disagree with Lonnie here. Kinda. We agree on the -75 dB thing. But on the number of customers I'm wa on the other side of the fence. Probably on the other side of the pasture too. Just in Odessa here we have something like 50 to 75 subs pulling from a single ap. It's an OLD lucent ap1000. Only an 11 meg radio. It feeds two other repeater sites (those are included in the subscriber count). You can run a speed test here at almost any time you want and my customers get 2 to 3 megs of actual speed out to the internet. 4x+ the actual speed of dsl in town for only $5 per month more. I will agree that marginal links will slow the whole network down. But I try to look at things from a pragmatic standpoint. Not just sales or techie view point. The question for me is, are the customers happy? Are they wanting/needing more? Are the expectations properly set and met? My fiber feed here is peaking at 3 megs today. 3.19 to be exact. But the AVERAGE is only 640k. This circuit feeds 24 pots lines and 150ish wireless subs. NON of whom are on bandwidth shaped links. It's wide open for all of them. Some of the businesses get 8ish megs via a trango system in town too. All systems and all customer bases are different. Us experts in the industry are often very good at telling you how to run our networks. The hard part is that we're all correct :-P. Here's MY rule of thumb for customers per ap. When people start telling me that things aren't as fast as they used to be, I'll put in another one. OR if *I* know I can do a much better job by splitting things off (gonna do that to one system today, only 10ish subs but it's never worked as well as it should so I'm gonna redesign things, again). My one complaining customer on that tower complains about everything though. When I go to his house to test the actual speed it's always good. Maybe I'm working too hard for one squeaky wheel. Too bad he's not only a tech support guy but also a relative! hehehehehehe Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Consider the numbers below and then make your decision. At 11 mbps link you can transfer between 5.2 mbps and 6 mbps depending on a number of factors, so let's say 5 mbps for easy math. At 5.5 mbps link you have about 2.5 mbps actual data transfer capability. At 2 mbps link you have about 1.5 mbps data transfer capability. At 1 mbps link you have about 700 kbps data transfer capability. If you allow each customer to have a 1 mbps pipe you can support 5 users at 11 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 30 to 40 normal users with up to 5 real active at any one time. You can support 2 users at 5.5 mbps link, each at full speed or most likely about 10 to 20 normal users with up to 2 real active at any one time. You can support 1 users at 2 mbps link, at full speed or most likely about 5 to 10 normal users with up to 1 real active at any one time. You cannot support even 1 user at 1 mbps link, at full speed that you allow. Be very aware that 1 user with a 1 mbps link that is allowed to have a 1 mbps pipe will consume EVERY BIT of airtime that you have available. It is just the same as putting in a private link for them, except that you have 20 to 40 other customers who just don't understand why their Internet is so slow. There are still a lot of guys who do not get this simple concept. They want to be the hero and hook up everybody and not install better gear or a tower to get above
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
I dunno. I kinda disagree with those who think marginal is just fine. I can tell they do not compete against Qwest DSL or Charter cable. 512k, will get you no where and service that is up down in speeds will not get you subs when the real competition shows up to play in your sandbox. Party is over. Real world kicks in and fantasy land turns into a nightmare. We've heard it on these lists in the past with wisps building a low speed network and the cable ops turning on and taking all their subs. Remember Paul Farber? Sure there are exceptions in markets that are not mature, but like I said, it will be a different story when the competition shows up, which is pretty darn soon if you don't have any at this time. Build your network to it's highest performance and breath a little bit of relief. Build it right the first time and get the most out of your investment. George Carl A Jeptha wrote: Yes Marlon, real world is different from the theory (yes, Lonnie I know you run your own ISP). I quote We endeavour to deliver 256kbps, but speed may be up to 4.5 mbps. No Up Ito's, because you will never see it. Depending on who you ask the radios when they have perfect line of sight is actually capable of 11mbps. So I say again, we endeavour to deliver 256kbps, and if on the day of the install we find for what ever reason that we cannot deliver our speed we will remove the equipment and leave, no charge. Most customers' response is, Okay so when will you be installing. My response, we have a two week backlog, we will see if we can fit you in. Customer, Great, I'll see you in two weeks time You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm gonna disagree with Lonnie here. Kinda. We agree on the -75 dB thing. But on the number of customers I'm wa on the other side of the fence. Probably on the other side of the pasture too. Just in Odessa here we have something like 50 to 75 subs pulling from a single ap. It's an OLD lucent ap1000. Only an 11 meg radio. It feeds two other repeater sites (those are included in the subscriber count). You can run a speed test here at almost any time you want and my customers get 2 to 3 megs of actual speed out to the internet. 4x+ the actual speed of dsl in town for only $5 per month more. I will agree that marginal links will slow the whole network down. But I try to look at things from a pragmatic standpoint. Not just sales or techie view point. The question for me is, are the customers happy? Are they wanting/needing more? Are the expectations properly set and met? My fiber feed here is peaking at 3 megs today. 3.19 to be exact. But the AVERAGE is only 640k. This circuit feeds 24 pots lines and 150ish wireless subs. NON of whom are on bandwidth shaped links. It's wide open for all of them. Some of the businesses get 8ish megs via a trango system in town too. All systems and all customer bases are different. Us experts in the industry are often very good at telling you how to run our networks. The hard part is that we're all correct :-P. Here's MY rule of thumb for customers per ap. When people start telling me that things aren't as fast as they used to be, I'll put in another one. OR if *I* know I can do a much better job by splitting things off (gonna do that to one system today, only 10ish subs but it's never worked as well as it should so I'm gonna redesign things, again). My one complaining customer on that tower complains about everything though. When I go to his house to test the actual speed it's always good. Maybe I'm working too hard for one squeaky wheel. Too bad he's not only a tech support guy but also a relative! hehehehehehe Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Consider the numbers below and then make your decision. At 11 mbps link you can transfer between 5.2 mbps and 6 mbps depending on a number of factors, so let's say 5 mbps for easy math. At 5.5 mbps link you have about 2.5 mbps actual data transfer capability. At 2 mbps link you have about 1.5 mbps data transfer capability. At 1 mbps link you have about 700 kbps data transfer capability. If you allow each customer to have a 1 mbps pipe you can support 5 users at 11 mbps link, each at full speed or most
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Hey Lonnie, you should try war boards, speed is killer. here's my speed test across a pair of them. It's about the same for all my customers who are using them. OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is: 15398.5 Kbps which means you can download at 1924.81 KB/sec. from our servers. ;) George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Oh yeah that AP is serving about 200 or more subs. George George Rogato wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Hey Lonnie, you should try war boards, speed is killer. here's my speed test across a pair of them. It's about the same for all my customers who are using them. OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is: 15398.5 Kbps which means you can download at 1924.81 KB/sec. from our servers. ;) George -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems
Is that 1 radio card serving 200 subscribers or multiple radio cards? Which radio card(s)? 802.11g or 802.11a? BTW, bravo on 200 subs from 1 AP! What would you say the population is for the coverage area of this AP? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo WDS capacity, Mikrotik - problems Oh yeah that AP is serving about 200 or more subs. George George Rogato wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: As a general rule you should not consider any customer if the cannot achieve at least a 5.5 mbps connection. Hey Lonnie, you should try war boards, speed is killer. here's my speed test across a pair of them. It's about the same for all my customers who are using them. OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is: 15398.5 Kbps which means you can download at 1924.81 KB/sec. from our servers. ;) George -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Municipal Broadband - A Growing Threat (to Telcos)
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