Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
not sure. A few get by once in a while. I rarely go check the quarantined items though. It's so seldom false positive that I don't even bother anymore. - Original Message - From: rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:19 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
Butch, I think you missed the most important point of the 'subject line... Rick was asking for 'GOOD' tower climbers... Hehe I too believe that he has mastered 'Johnny - rigging' :-) - Cliff On 10/17/06 10:56 PM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Rick Smith wrote: As for manufacturing mounts on-site, I don't think there's any other way with Johnny. I'd hire him in a second to raise a tower of any height. JohnnyO is likely to be good at creating custom solutions. :-) I heard he's doing a LOT of tower work lately. He called me (from New Mexico) a couple weeks ago to look in on his network. My understanding is that he is dropping AND raising towers. Likely that he has a good bit of tower on the ground, too. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
Jay Panozza, with Mid America Towers http://midamericatowers.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only is he a tower owner, he does work on them also. Very good person to deal with. - Original Message - From: David Sovereen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed I have equipment that I need installed on about 20 towers throughout Central Michigan and Northeast Wisconsin. We have one tower company that we really, really like, but they are booked up solid for months (we've already waited a month in hopes something would open up, but no luck). Does anyone have recommendations? I have 6 new towers where 5.7 GHz backhauls and 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz APs need to be installed, and 14 towers needing augmenting, where new 900 MHz APs need to be installs. The 900 MHz antennas we are using are MTi Horizontally-polarized Omnis, which are pretty big (at least compared to anything we've used before). Ideally, a company that can fabricate mounts on-site (which our preferred company, St. Paul Tower, does) would be ideal, as we are installing on towers, as well as water towers, grain elevators, and smokestacks. All recommendations are very welcome. My contact info for any tower people on this list is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and phone 989-837-3790 ext 151. My apologies if solicitations of this nature are inappropriate for this list. Thanks, Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
There's a company http://www.krugercomm.com that might be able to help you They specialize in LA work w/ broadband (better than you're average tower monkey...) -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Rick Smith wrote: As for manufacturing mounts on-site, I don't think there's any other way with Johnny. I'd hire him in a second to raise a tower of any height. JohnnyO is likely to be good at creating custom solutions. :-) I heard he's doing a LOT of tower work lately. He called me (from New Mexico) a couple weeks ago to look in on his network. My understanding is that he is dropping AND raising towers. Likely that he has a good bit of tower on the ground, too. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Listing of Broadband Availability
This appeared in today's Telecom AM, published by Warren Publishing. It may be useful. The URL for CPI is http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/rank.aspx?act=broadband#broadband.MarkWEBSITE PROVIDES INFO ON BROADBAND AVAILABILITYThe Center for Public Integrity (CPI) added material on broadband providers in a website redesign. Visitors to PublicIntegrity.org can find the number of such providers in each zip code. CPI said its effort to identify all companies selling fast Web service by location failed when the FCC said Sept. 26 it wouldnt provide the information. The FCC denied a Freedom of Information Act request because the data sought by CPI contain proprietary material, said the group. CPI also is listing the number of TV and radio stations and cable operators in each zip code. Mark C. Del Bianco Law Office of Mark Del Bianco 3929 Washington St. Kensington, MD 20895 301-933-7216 Communications Law for the Digital Age This e-mail and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the named addressee(s) and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please immediately notify me at (301) 933-7216 and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
You can also call Dustin Jurman at RSAIR (dustin at rseng dot net) or 813-232-4887. RSAIR has crews available for tower install and climbing. Regards, Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
Jay's great - known him for almost 4 years now...but I thought he wasn't climbing anymore (or only climbing the towers he owns) -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed Jay Panozza, with Mid America Towers http://midamericatowers.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only is he a tower owner, he does work on them also. Very good person to deal with. - Original Message - From: David Sovereen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed I have equipment that I need installed on about 20 towers throughout Central Michigan and Northeast Wisconsin. We have one tower company that we really, really like, but they are booked up solid for months (we've already waited a month in hopes something would open up, but no luck). Does anyone have recommendations? I have 6 new towers where 5.7 GHz backhauls and 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz APs need to be installed, and 14 towers needing augmenting, where new 900 MHz APs need to be installs. The 900 MHz antennas we are using are MTi Horizontally-polarized Omnis, which are pretty big (at least compared to anything we've used before). Ideally, a company that can fabricate mounts on-site (which our preferred company, St. Paul Tower, does) would be ideal, as we are installing on towers, as well as water towers, grain elevators, and smokestacks. All recommendations are very welcome. My contact info for any tower people on this list is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and phone 989-837-3790 ext 151. My apologies if solicitations of this nature are inappropriate for this list. Thanks, Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are you making money?
I want to hit on a couple points: Leasing is financing is debt. You need a CPA and corporate attorney to run a successful business endeavor. You need a corporate structure to separate your business from your personal (and you need to NOT co-mingle). Everything should have a corporate shield. The tax write-off thing only works when you need the item or you might as well buy it instead of paying taxes. But tax write-offs only work for companies running cash flow positive. Hopefully your customer has signed a lease and contract with you for the 36 months. An iron-clad contract. Otherwise, every lease puts you at risk and on-the-hook. Yes you can move the CPE to another customer, but there is expense at that. Plus, losing customers. If you are losing customers, especially before the 36 months is up, you need to examine why that is. Unless they move out of service range, what is the reason they leave? If you tell me that it is price, I will tell you that you are a provider of dubious value and the customer never felt like he was getting his money's worth. Customer acquisition and installation are probably some of your largest costs. You should have a plan in place to insure that your customer churn is low. How many touches to the customer per year? Any upsell or cross-sell to customer? What is your Value Proposition? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Airband acquires RedWire with eye on WiMAX
Congrats to Jim~ I know they worked long and hard to be bought out :) - Jeff On 10/17/06 2:24 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27551 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed
I'm always available in Michigan. I wouldn't want to head a crew but I have a set of hands and a harness. :) So depending on what you scab up for a crew I might just fit the bill. Brian Charles Wu wrote: Jay's great - known him for almost 4 years now...but I thought he wasn't climbing anymore (or only climbing the towers he owns) -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed Jay Panozza, with Mid America Towers http://midamericatowers.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only is he a tower owner, he does work on them also. Very good person to deal with. - Original Message - From: David Sovereen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: [WISPA] Good Tower Climbers / Installers Needed I have equipment that I need installed on about 20 towers throughout Central Michigan and Northeast Wisconsin. We have one tower company that we really, really like, but they are booked up solid for months (we've already waited a month in hopes something would open up, but no luck). Does anyone have recommendations? I have 6 new towers where 5.7 GHz backhauls and 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz APs need to be installed, and 14 towers needing augmenting, where new 900 MHz APs need to be installs. The 900 MHz antennas we are using are MTi Horizontally-polarized Omnis, which are pretty big (at least compared to anything we've used before). Ideally, a company that can fabricate mounts on-site (which our preferred company, St. Paul Tower, does) would be ideal, as we are installing on towers, as well as water towers, grain elevators, and smokestacks. All recommendations are very welcome. My contact info for any tower people on this list is mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and phone 989-837-3790 ext 151. My apologies if solicitations of this nature are inappropriate for this list. Thanks, Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are you making money?
We've been over this before, The cost for a CPE is not $149. I don't benefit by reducing my CPE cost from $400 to $149, if My installtion costs go up, and my maintenance costs go up, and I loose prospects because the gear doesn't get the job done for what ever reasons (interference resilience / Cosmetics / Additional mounting hardware / Etc.) By lowering the CPE cost, I now have less tangible products to secure the funding for my company. A bank won't lend me money to cover my maintenance, a cost that has no value or new income associated with the expense. So why do I want to defer costs that could be leased ($500 quality radios), for expenses that can't be leased that take valuable cash out of my pocket (Salaries for maintenance and such). The fact is I can do an Alvarion CPE isntalltion in two hours, it meets the cosmetic requirement and signal quality of 99% of my prospects, so why would I want a $149 CPE, that didn't meet those requirements for 90% of my prospects? So the real numbers that are needed are business models that consider a $500 per CPE cost (whats required to get the job done) to finance through the leases. Its a tough call for $500 at residential prices. The $149 CPE lease model is flawed, because the $149 CPE has to many hidden costs that are not apparent to most WISPs until its to late and the costs have been incurred. The day the $149/CPE delivers what a WISP needs, the day I'll join your campaign of how the $149 CPE saves the Wireless Industry. But what happen to me is that I bought into the $149 CPE idea, made big plans, and then cancelled them after the fact because I learned after the fact it was a loosing business proposition. So what I really lost was 6-9month of time to market waiting for something that never was going to materialize. Understand that this opinion, is based on my market and geography that may be considerably different than yours. If you don;t have the same barriers and the $149 CPE does the job for you, then it may be a winner for you. But I'm done installing half assed equipment. I'm in the business of selling quality and maintenance free solutions. I'd rather identify the opportunity that is willing to pay for the quality solutions. It takes so long to build a reputation, and it takes so little time to ruin it. Trango 2.4ghz CPE = $475 in single quantity 36 month lease on same CPE = $12/month = $432 total cost So, even though I am paying interest for 36 months, the actual cost of the radio is less, but I don't have to come up with money for each sub that I install. Instead I am able to run the business from day to day without having to get over the next hurdle That I fully agree with. If you can finance for less than paying cash, thats a good thing. As long as after you bought $250 CPES, you didn;t realize that it was gear that you didn;t want, and needed another type of gear. If I bought 250 $149 CPEs 6 months ago, I'd have 250 CPEs still sitting on the shelf. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are you making money? Tom, The idea is that you lease the CPE equipment. It costs you $5 per month per sub (using $149 CPE), and you are breaking even on the install. So from day one I am making money on the sub (and generating positive cash flow). I can then use that money to grow the business (more bandwidth, bigger routers, more towers, etc) and continue over and over and over. Also, because I can lease 250 CPE at a time, I am getting a better price. Let's run some numbers: Trango 2.4ghz CPE = $475 in single quantity 36 month lease on same CPE = $12/month = $432 total cost So, even though I am paying interest for 36 months, the actual cost of the radio is less, but I don't have to come up with money for each sub that I install. Instead I am able to run the business from day to day without having to get over the next hurdle. I can pay good salaries, have nice office space, etc. because the business runs cash flow positive from day one with EVERY customer. Plug the numbers into that spreadsheet that started this discussion and see which business model you would rather own in 2-3 years. There is nothing wrong with debt... you just have to manage it correctly. Each lease becomes an operating expense, just like bandwidth, tower rent, etc. The best part is in 3 years, you own the CPE. Even if only 80% of them are still operating, that's 80% new CPE you don't have to buy. ;) For what it's worth, the tax write-off thing always gets me too. People almost talk like it's free money or something, instead of the 70% expense it really is. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: The problem with Leasing, is that you ahve to keep your clients longer than your leases. Historically,
[WISPA] FCC technical advisory committee meeting 10/25/06
Can anyone make it to this meeting? They will have speakers from the telco, cable, wimax and gsm/wifi() industries. I don't see any wisps or even unlicensed folks though. Released: 10/18/2006. TECHNOLOGICAL ADVISORY COUNCIL (TAC) TO HOLD MEETING, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2006. (DA No. 06-2051). OET http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2051A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2051A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2051A1.txt laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are you making money?
Tom, That's getting off the subject of this thread... if you bought 250 CPE, you should have probably done your homework first... or purchased 30 and installed them to make sure they worked for you. That's true with any radio, any brand or any product. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: We've been over this before, The cost for a CPE is not $149. I don't benefit by reducing my CPE cost from $400 to $149, if My installtion costs go up, and my maintenance costs go up, and I loose prospects because the gear doesn't get the job done for what ever reasons (interference resilience / Cosmetics / Additional mounting hardware / Etc.) By lowering the CPE cost, I now have less tangible products to secure the funding for my company. A bank won't lend me money to cover my maintenance, a cost that has no value or new income associated with the expense. So why do I want to defer costs that could be leased ($500 quality radios), for expenses that can't be leased that take valuable cash out of my pocket (Salaries for maintenance and such). The fact is I can do an Alvarion CPE isntalltion in two hours, it meets the cosmetic requirement and signal quality of 99% of my prospects, so why would I want a $149 CPE, that didn't meet those requirements for 90% of my prospects? So the real numbers that are needed are business models that consider a $500 per CPE cost (whats required to get the job done) to finance through the leases. Its a tough call for $500 at residential prices. The $149 CPE lease model is flawed, because the $149 CPE has to many hidden costs that are not apparent to most WISPs until its to late and the costs have been incurred. The day the $149/CPE delivers what a WISP needs, the day I'll join your campaign of how the $149 CPE saves the Wireless Industry. But what happen to me is that I bought into the $149 CPE idea, made big plans, and then cancelled them after the fact because I learned after the fact it was a loosing business proposition. So what I really lost was 6-9month of time to market waiting for something that never was going to materialize. Understand that this opinion, is based on my market and geography that may be considerably different than yours. If you don;t have the same barriers and the $149 CPE does the job for you, then it may be a winner for you. But I'm done installing half assed equipment. I'm in the business of selling quality and maintenance free solutions. I'd rather identify the opportunity that is willing to pay for the quality solutions. It takes so long to build a reputation, and it takes so little time to ruin it. Trango 2.4ghz CPE = $475 in single quantity 36 month lease on same CPE = $12/month = $432 total cost So, even though I am paying interest for 36 months, the actual cost of the radio is less, but I don't have to come up with money for each sub that I install. Instead I am able to run the business from day to day without having to get over the next hurdle That I fully agree with. If you can finance for less than paying cash, thats a good thing. As long as after you bought $250 CPES, you didn;t realize that it was gear that you didn;t want, and needed another type of gear. If I bought 250 $149 CPEs 6 months ago, I'd have 250 CPEs still sitting on the shelf. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are you making money? Tom, The idea is that you lease the CPE equipment. It costs you $5 per month per sub (using $149 CPE), and you are breaking even on the install. So from day one I am making money on the sub (and generating positive cash flow). I can then use that money to grow the business (more bandwidth, bigger routers, more towers, etc) and continue over and over and over. Also, because I can lease 250 CPE at a time, I am getting a better price. Let's run some numbers: Trango 2.4ghz CPE = $475 in single quantity 36 month lease on same CPE = $12/month = $432 total cost So, even though I am paying interest for 36 months, the actual cost of the radio is less, but I don't have to come up with money for each sub that I install. Instead I am able to run the business from day to day without having to get over the next hurdle. I can pay good salaries, have nice office space, etc. because the business runs cash flow positive from day one with EVERY customer. Plug the numbers into that spreadsheet that started this discussion and see which business model you would rather own in 2-3 years. There is nothing wrong with debt... you just have to manage it correctly. Each lease becomes an operating expense, just like bandwidth, tower rent, etc. The best part is in 3 years, you own the CPE. Even if only 80% of them are still operating, that's 80% new CPE you don't have to buy. ;) For
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service Request for Slocomb, AL
Can anyone service the following area: County Road 30 Slocomb, AL 36375 Please reply off list if you can. This is for a residential account without access to DSL and cable broadband. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
We're running Plesk with SpamAssassin for our users' mail. Do you know if the OCR plugin you reference below will work under the Plesk software? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: Andrew Niemantsverdriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
I just configured FuzzyOCR (we've been having the same problem this last week with stock spam), and it only took about 150 minutes to install, configure, test. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin I just used by the INSTALL file in the downloaded tarball. http://users.own-hero.net/~decoder/fuzzyocr/fuzzyocr-2.3b.tar.gz -Nick Carl A Jeptha wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- --- | Nick White | | Network Administrator | | Tele-NET Internet | | http://www.tele-net.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Fwd: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Hello Alex. I am sorry you have had trouble posting to our list. Please send the error you receive when you try to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get it fixed. I am copying the list with your information. Sincerely, John Scrivner Alex Huppenthal wrote: John, Since I my posts to the general list never make it, perhaps you'd like to post this. An important event. Hope all is well with you. Cheers, -Alex Begin forwarded message: From: "Timothy Karr, FreePress.net" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 18, 2006 6:22:57 PM PDT To: "Alex Huppenthal" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Alex, Tonight at 9: Watch "The Net at Risk" On the Web: Join the Debate at PBS.org Tune in to PBS tonight to see the SavetheInternet.comCoalition featured in "The Net at Risk," a documentary produced by award-winning journalist Bill Moyers. Then join other SavetheInternet.com members in an online Web discussion at PBS.org. Bill Moyers' show airs at 9 p.m. in most cities (check local listings). Immediately following the East Coast broadcast, PBS.org will host a live Internet debate between Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott and phone industry flack Mike McCurry. You can be a part of this online debate. Here's how to join in: When: Oct. 18, 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm Pacific Where: http://www.pbs.org/moyers You'll be asked to log in to participate in the online discussion. With your help, we hope to light up the PBS Web site with our campaign to save Net Neutrality. It's important to have you there. In the six months since the SavetheInternet.com Coalition was launched, millions of Americans have joined the campaign, spoken out for Internet freedom, and put Congress and the phone companies on notice. Tonight's program could make millions more aware of this issue. They need to hear the real voices of people like you instead of industry mouthpieces. Help us use the Internet to save it from corporate efforts to stifle online innovation, free speech and competition. Please join us tonight! Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press and SavetheInternet.com www.savetheinternet.com 1. For the latest information on the campaign visit www.SavetheInternet.com 2. Don't miss Bill Moyers' new essay on Net Neutrality: "Against an Imperial Internet" Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Free Press. This message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Visit your subscription management page to modify your email communication preferences or update your personal profile. To stop receiving E-Activist Network, click to unsubscribe. To stop ALL email from Free Press, click to remove yourself from our lists (or reply via email with "remove or unsubscribe" in the subject line). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: INVITE: 10/26 Improving Spectrum Management for Public Safety Communications
Can anyone make it to this and give us a report? It's in DC, next week on Thursday. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: New America Foundation To: New America Foundation Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:29 AM Subject: INVITE: 10/26 Improving Spectrum Management for Public Safety Communications The New America Foundation cordially invites you to a lunch policy forum From TV to Public Safety Do We Need Incremental or Fundamental Reform inPublic Safety Spectrum and Communications Policy? featuring Jon M. Peha Professor, Electrical Engineering and Public Policy Carnegie Mellon University Morgan OBrien CEO, Cyren Call Co-founder, Nextel Michael Gottdenker CEO, Access Spectrum, LLC David Aylward Director, COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance Robert LeGrande Deputy Chief Technology Officer, District of Columbia Government moderator Michael Calabrese Vice President and Director, Wireless Future Program New America Foundation Thursday, October 26th, 2006 12:15 P.M. - 1:45 P.M. Lunch will be served New America Foundation 1630 Connecticut Ave., NW, 7th Floor Washington, DC After watching first responder communications systems fail on 9/11 and after Hurricane Katrina, with tragic results, the vital importance of spectrum management for public safety communications has taken center stage in recent years. Congress recently passed legislation to reallocate 24 MHz of prime spectrum from TV to public safety in 2009, as part of Americas transition from analog to digital television. Currently, this new spectrum is set to be managed under the same assumptions and orthodoxies as current public safety spectrum allocations in which spectrum and equipmentaredesignated exclusively for public safety; management is highly decentralized, without national or regional coordination; and narrowbandvoice communicationis the principal application. Is it time to consider fundamental reform in the way new public safety spectrum is managed?In a new paperthat will be released at this forum, Jon M. Peha, Professor of Electrical Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University, argues that fundamental reform would make it possible to achieve critical goals of interoperability, spectral efficiency, dependability, and security while lowering costs and providing access to more advanced mobile data applications. Peha argues that such reforms could include: moving toward a consistent nationwide network architecture, allowing commercial carriers to operate public safety networks, and making greater use ofsharedmunicipal and commercial broadband wireless networks for data applications. At the forum, alternative proposals for public safety spectrum reform will be debated. Michael Gottdenker, CEO of Access Spectrum, will describe an incremental approach to reorganize newly-allocated public safety bands to promote efficient use of spectrum. Morgan OBrien, CEO of Cyren Call and co-founder of Nextel, will outline his controversial proposal to use 30 MHz of returned TV band spectrum to build a shared commercial/public safety network. Other panelists, including David Aylward, Director of the COMCARE Alliance, and Robert LeGrande of the Spectrum Coalition for Public Safety, willcomment on theseproposals and describe alternative approaches to support wireless broadband data applications for first responders. All of these approaches to reform will be contrasted with current plans for the management and use of new public safety spectrum. ToRSVP, please respond to this email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you have questions about this event, please call or email Naveen Lakshmipathy at (202) 986-2700 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]. www.spectrumpolicy.org Visit our web site for more information on the New America Foundation: www.newamerica.net To be removed from New Americas event notification list, please email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Fwd: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Gentlemen and Ladies of USA, You have a problem, that if you do not defend Net Neutrality no Nuclear device and no matter how big will protect you or I from what can and will happen. Believe it or not right now the rest of the world's democracy rest's in your hands. When Democracy is owned by a Corporation and not by the people (notice the word owned) we will have trouble. I remember, years ago when a US citizen wanted to know who he to pay for the internet, because he believed that someone had to own it. I gave up after 5mins on dialup (14400 modem) to try and tell him that no one controlled the internet. You US WISP's will have to stop the assault, because I know that in Canada they will only rubber stamp the FCC. I feel sorry for you but the fight is now with you, because it is all quiet in the rest of the world, but I can guarantee you that if you loose the rest will follow suit, and quote the USA did it, it must be the right thing to do (meanwhile, everyone curses the Americans, until it will line their pockets, then the Americans are doing the right thing). Mr Upton should be led to the wall with a blindfold and shot for treason. End of Rant. Time for another beer before I fall asleep. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: Hello Alex. I am sorry you have had trouble posting to our list. Please send the error you receive when you try to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get it fixed. I am copying the list with your information. Sincerely, John Scrivner Alex Huppenthal wrote: John, Since I my posts to the general list never make it, perhaps you'd like to post this. An important event. Hope all is well with you. Cheers, -Alex Begin forwarded message: *From: *Timothy Karr, FreePress.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *October 18, 2006 6:22:57 PM PDT *To: *Alex Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: **Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS* *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SavetheInternet.com banner http://www.savetheinternt.com/ Dear Alex, Bill Moyers http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog Tonight at 9: Watch The Net at Risk http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ On the Web: Join the Debate at PBS.org http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ Tune in to PBS tonight to see the SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/Coalition featured in The Net at Risk, a documentary produced by award-winning journalist Bill Moyers. Then join other SavetheInternet.com members in an online Web discussion at PBS.org. Bill Moyers' show airs at 9 p.m. in most cities (check local listings http://action.freepress.net/ct/KpxJ_ZM1wPKD/). Immediately following the East Coast broadcast, PBS.org will host a live Internet debate between Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott and phone industry flack Mike McCurry. You can be a part of this online debate. Here's how to join in: *When:* Oct. 18, 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm Pacific *Where: *http://www.pbs.org/moyers You'll be asked to log in to participate in the online discussion. With your help, we hope to light up the PBS Web site with our campaign to save Net Neutrality. It's important to have you there. In the six months since the SavetheInternet.com Coalition was launched, millions of Americans have joined the campaign, spoken out for Internet freedom, and put Congress and the phone companies on notice. Tonight's program could make millions more aware of this issue. They need to hear the real voices of people like you instead of industry mouthpieces. Help us use the Internet to save it from corporate efforts to stifle online innovation, free speech and competition. Please join us tonight! Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press and SavetheInternet.com www.savetheinternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 1. For the latest information on the campaign visit www.SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 2. Don't miss Bill Moyers' new essay on Net Neutrality: Against an Imperial Internet http://action.freepress.net/ct/K1xJ_ZM1wPKF/ Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join-forward.html?domain=freepressr=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-; If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Free Press http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join.html?r=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-E;. This message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Visit your subscription management page http://action.freepress.net/freepress/smp.tcl?nkey=8wsg67i4hjj8bk3; to modify your email communication preferences or update your personal profile. To stop receiving E-Activist Network, click to
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Fwd: Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Ain't going to happen, Net Neutrality is another y2k, all hype, little to no substance. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Carl A Jeptha wrote: Gentlemen and Ladies of USA, You have a problem, that if you do not defend Net Neutrality no Nuclear device and no matter how big will protect you or I from what can and will happen. Believe it or not right now the rest of the world's democracy rest's in your hands. When Democracy is owned by a Corporation and not by the people (notice the word owned) we will have trouble. I remember, years ago when a US citizen wanted to know who he to pay for the internet, because he believed that someone had to own it. I gave up after 5mins on dialup (14400 modem) to try and tell him that no one controlled the internet. You US WISP's will have to stop the assault, because I know that in Canada they will only rubber stamp the FCC. I feel sorry for you but the fight is now with you, because it is all quiet in the rest of the world, but I can guarantee you that if you loose the rest will follow suit, and quote the USA did it, it must be the right thing to do (meanwhile, everyone curses the Americans, until it will line their pockets, then the Americans are doing the right thing). Mr Upton should be led to the wall with a blindfold and shot for treason. End of Rant. Time for another beer before I fall asleep. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: Hello Alex. I am sorry you have had trouble posting to our list. Please send the error you receive when you try to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get it fixed. I am copying the list with your information. Sincerely, John Scrivner Alex Huppenthal wrote: John, Since I my posts to the general list never make it, perhaps you'd like to post this. An important event. Hope all is well with you. Cheers, -Alex Begin forwarded message: *From: *Timothy Karr, FreePress.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date: *October 18, 2006 6:22:57 PM PDT *To: *Alex Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: **Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS* *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SavetheInternet.com banner http://www.savetheinternt.com/ Dear Alex, Bill Moyers http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog Tonight at 9: Watch The Net at Risk http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ On the Web: Join the Debate at PBS.org http://action.freepress.net/ct/K7xJ_ZM1wPKJ/ Tune in to PBS tonight to see the SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/Coalition featured in The Net at Risk, a documentary produced by award-winning journalist Bill Moyers. Then join other SavetheInternet.com members in an online Web discussion at PBS.org. Bill Moyers' show airs at 9 p.m. in most cities (check local listings http://action.freepress.net/ct/KpxJ_ZM1wPKD/). Immediately following the East Coast broadcast, PBS.org will host a live Internet debate between Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott and phone industry flack Mike McCurry. You can be a part of this online debate. Here's how to join in: *When:* Oct. 18, 10:30 pm Eastern / 7:30 pm Pacific *Where: *http://www.pbs.org/moyers You'll be asked to log in to participate in the online discussion. With your help, we hope to light up the PBS Web site with our campaign to save Net Neutrality. It's important to have you there. In the six months since the SavetheInternet.com Coalition was launched, millions of Americans have joined the campaign, spoken out for Internet freedom, and put Congress and the phone companies on notice. Tonight's program could make millions more aware of this issue. They need to hear the real voices of people like you instead of industry mouthpieces. Help us use the Internet to save it from corporate efforts to stifle online innovation, free speech and competition. Please join us tonight! Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press and SavetheInternet.com www.savetheinternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 1. For the latest information on the campaign visit www.SavetheInternet.com http://action.freepress.net/ct/Z1xJ_ZM1wPKK/ 2. Don't miss Bill Moyers' new essay on Net Neutrality: Against an Imperial Internet http://action.freepress.net/ct/K1xJ_ZM1wPKF/ Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this. Tell-a-friend! http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join-forward.html?domain=freepressr=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-; If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for Free Press http://action.freepress.net/freepress/join.html?r=g7xJ_ZM1-Bw-E;. This message was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Visit your subscription management page
[WISPA] Tate's Law
*Tate’s Law: More Networks Mean More Reliability *Make spectrum available from DSL Prime newsletter by Dave Burstein Gordon Moore didn’t intend to create “Moore’s Law” when he wrote an article predicting the future of semiconductors, but the logic was so powerful his name is now in the history books. I doubt FCC Commissioner Tate expected even 15 minutes of fame for her comments at the VON conference, but the idea is compelling. Tate said “At the second meeting of the FCC Independent Panel Reviewing the Impact of Hurricane Katrina on Communications Networks in Mississippi, I heard personal accounts of the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina. The one clear message I heard was the need for redundancy in communications networks.” Getting another network deployed will save lives in emergencies, whether massive hurricanes or an individual with a heart attack. After Katrina, I wrote, /“/The debate over whether to add a WiFi/Wimax network should be over. Get those base stations up on light and flagpoles, etc. by whatever means necessary.” There’s a reasonable debate about whether it should be built by cities, independents like EarthLink, or even incumbents. Commissioner Tate is on target, however, seeking to resolve those issues and provide this essential safety net. ATT and BellSouth have unused spectrum perfect for Wimax, and could easily divest. The FCC made a major mistake not demanding the same from Sprint/Nextel. The Sprint CFO told Wall Street giving up the spectrum would have minimal impact, because it had been already written down. There’s also the remarkable proposal from M2Z to unwire 95% of the United States with free service at low speeds. They’d charge for higher speeds and pay a royalty on the 20 megahertz of unused spectrum they need. Milo Medin, who built the U.S. cable modem business and experienced regulator John Muleta have credibility, while Kleiner Perkins, the richest venture capitalists in the world, are ready with the money. --- In the current commenting period for the Merger of att-BST (docket 06-74) it would be wise to mention that what is best for America is to follow Commissioner Tate's recommendation for a redundant network - to wit, att and BellSouth should have to divest their licensed spectrum that they have left unused since their purchase over 5 years ago. Private-public partnerships would be able to best utilize the spectrum and these same partnerships would have the ability of speed to deployment. You might also ask for peering, special access pricing, and tariff rates to remain in effect for the next 30 months. If you wait till tomorrow morning you can just edit my comments. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Think about your cell phone. Do you get access to the entire Net or only some of it? Think about EVDO. Is it truly unlimited or are there rules and enforcement? It is not inconceivable that VZ and ATT would design a Prodigy type service and call it the Internet. Personally, I would like to see a Truth in Advertising type law in effect in place of NN, but it is conceivable that to get access to all eyeballs you may have to buy 3 or 4 feeds - ATT, VZ, L3 GX/XO/Cogent/other. If peering changes, the ripple effect would be crazy. Most carriers don't have the margin to change from peering to transit. It isn't any one single thing happening that worries me, it is the conflugence of so many things happening at the same time. - Peter Sam Tetherow wrote: Ain't going to happen, Net Neutrality is another y2k, all hype, little to no substance. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
The cell phone analogy is a bit off target though, unless you want to charge the recipient of the cell call. The peering wars pretty much died in 95 when the fledgling internet business wouldn't tolerate it then. I highly doubt that it would put up with it now. If ATT, VZ, L3 GX/XO/Gogent/other want/need more revenue for their pipes, they will charge more. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Peter R. wrote: Think about your cell phone. Do you get access to the entire Net or only some of it? Think about EVDO. Is it truly unlimited or are there rules and enforcement? It is not inconceivable that VZ and ATT would design a Prodigy type service and call it the Internet. Personally, I would like to see a Truth in Advertising type law in effect in place of NN, but it is conceivable that to get access to all eyeballs you may have to buy 3 or 4 feeds - ATT, VZ, L3 GX/XO/Cogent/other. If peering changes, the ripple effect would be crazy. Most carriers don't have the margin to change from peering to transit. It isn't any one single thing happening that worries me, it is the conflugence of so many things happening at the same time. - Peter Sam Tetherow wrote: Ain't going to happen, Net Neutrality is another y2k, all hype, little to no substance. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tonight: Join SavetheInternet.com on PBS
Actually the cell phone analogy is what IMS is all about. IMS allows for deep packet inspection, so on EVDO or your cell phone, the carrier knows what you are doing. You have a very limited internet on most cell phone plans. I pay $10 extra per month and I am lucky if I can get the scores of an NFL game on Sunday. Like I said earlier, it isn't one thing, it is the sum total of all the things happening at once that makes me worry about the future of this industry. And quite a few people that are much brighter and with better connections are worried. I don't know if others are optimistic, in denial, or don't care. - Peter Sam Tetherow wrote: The cell phone analogy is a bit off target though, unless you want to charge the recipient of the cell call. The peering wars pretty much died in 95 when the fledgling internet business wouldn't tolerate it then. I highly doubt that it would put up with it now. If ATT, VZ, L3 GX/XO/Gogent/other want/need more revenue for their pipes, they will charge more. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Peter R. wrote: Think about your cell phone. Do you get access to the entire Net or only some of it? Think about EVDO. Is it truly unlimited or are there rules and enforcement? It is not inconceivable that VZ and ATT would design a Prodigy type service and call it the Internet. Personally, I would like to see a Truth in Advertising type law in effect in place of NN, but it is conceivable that to get access to all eyeballs you may have to buy 3 or 4 feeds - ATT, VZ, L3 GX/XO/Cogent/other. If peering changes, the ripple effect would be crazy. Most carriers don't have the margin to change from peering to transit. It isn't any one single thing happening that worries me, it is the conflugence of so many things happening at the same time. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
