[WISPA] New WISPA Member
WISPA has a new paid Principle WISP Member, welcome Marshall Craw of Rabbit Meadows Technology. WISPA requires funding in order to operate and to lobby for our industry. We appreciate those of you who recognize this and help us with your time and money. Here is an introduction for our newest WISPA member: Marshall Craw started Rabbit Meadows Technology in 2002 for IT consulting.The wireless infrastructure connected to Fiber was deployed in early 2003. Serving the Lake Chelan Valley in North Central Washington, we compete in a market that has fiber, DSL, and cable Internet. Thank you again! If any of the rest of you want to help support the efforts of your industry then please go to http://signup.wispa.org and fill out the application. It takes about 2 minutes and won't hurt a bit! All the best, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????
Just looking for experiences Personally I think they rock but just looking to see if anyone else has any pros/cons www.exaltcom.com 100 Mb FD 2.4 Ghz. radio. H. I bet Marlon would love to have one of these for a neighbor! :-) -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in Colorado?
Thanks for the lead John. We are a WiSP in Colorado and none of these towns are far from us. I think I'll track it down and see where it goes. Vince President/CEO RidgeviewTel LLC. A Rural Broadband Communications Company http://www.ridgeviewtel.com http://www.dboss-online.com On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:59 PM, John J. Thomas wrote: Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] on call staff
It doesn't. The only one I'm aware of that meets that requirement, (24x7 uncompensated availabilty) is the owner of a company. :-) So have to be mor erealistic for everyone else, and improvise. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] on call staff How does this relate to a person that is salaried and expected to be available all the time? Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Travis brings up a good point. "the legality of it". It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal ramifications and account for them. Take note that it is not necessarilly a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty. Just like the airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call. However, conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby. The exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have when they are on-call. Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually has further restrictions. We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do the repair work. Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night. And what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you can do able it to correct it sooner. And can you complain when they were expected to do it for free? What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the tech on-call and make them go out, if needed. I often do the off-hour repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the week, and they need the rest. I recently offloaded the night monitoring to one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty so I have appropriate checks and balances. I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it. What I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Hi, That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only work 40 hours per week unless they are a "manager", meaning they have 3 people "under" them, or they are a "professional" position (lawyer, doctor, etc.). One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
I really hope this program does well so Alvarian thinks about extending it to other products like 900mhz. Maybe then we can put a dent in the broadband all of rural America wants... Brian Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: In a nut shell, Patrick (yes Patrick) has come up with a program specifically aimed at the WISPs. We'll get volume discounts of over 70% (can't remember the exact number) with purchases of a whopping 25 units per QUARTER. There are additional discounts that add to this depending upon how many WISPs overall purchase the gear. Very cool stuff. I saw the program and said "Hell, *I* can do that!" I got a big grin out of Patrick with that one. hehehehe It'll take a while for us to install enough APs to drive that kind of volume for me. I do more volume than that as it is, but I'll not be putting VL at all 20 tower sites over night. Certainly something to think about for our bigger sites though. I really like this program. Finally I don't feel like my business is being used to subsidize the bigger (read telco) players. My hope is that this program will set a precedent in the market place. We may be small but we're growing, fast. There were more 1000 and up WISPs at ISPCon than you could shake a stick at. Very cool. Now we have to wait and see if Alvarion can stick with this program for the next 3 years so that the market has time to install the base stations needed to really make this new model shine. Thanks again Patrick. Your loyalty to our industry segment is much appreciated! It was great to see ya. The beard really does have to go though! Makes ya look lll... cackle Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news was released by Alvarion. The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the show. I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their customer. A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford Alvarion. Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to discover when checking out the program. But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential. Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: The AlvarionCOMNET is coming 11/13... And WISPA members at the meeting at ISPCON will get a detailed sneak preview. I look forward to seeing many of you there. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Solar power
Yep. We just did. Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Solar power Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist? I need to light one up and possibly may have to use solar. Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Solar power
Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist? I need to light one up and possibly may have to use solar. Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] on call staff
How does this relate to a person that is salaried and expected to be available all the time? Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Travis brings up a good point. "the legality of it". It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal ramifications and account for them. Take note that it is not necessarilly a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty. Just like the airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call. However, conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby. The exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have when they are on-call. Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually has further restrictions. We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do the repair work. Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night. And what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you can do able it to correct it sooner. And can you complain when they were expected to do it for free? What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the tech on-call and make them go out, if needed. I often do the off-hour repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the week, and they need the rest. I recently offloaded the night monitoring to one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty so I have appropriate checks and balances. I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it. What I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff > Hi, > > That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only > work 40 hours per week unless they are a "manager", meaning they have 3 > people "under" them, or they are a "professional" position (lawyer, > doctor, etc.). > > One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 > years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he > turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back > overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40,000 for the 2 year period). > > We have guys on call. If they have to go after hours, we give them time > off during the payperiod so they aren't over 40 hours. > > Travis > Microserv > > David E. Smith wrote: >> chris cooper wrote: >>> How do the rest of you compensate tech staff for on call duties? We >>> have an on call tech that monitors network remotely throughout weekend >>> and is responsible for rolling to tower/major
[WISPA] Portable tower/generator
Anyone near Fort Bragg? They have two of these. http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1042375&convertTo=USD laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] on call staff
Travis brings up a good point. "the legality of it". It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal ramifications and account for them. Take note that it is not necessarilly a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty. Just like the airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call. However, conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby. The exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have when they are on-call. Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually has further restrictions. We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do the repair work. Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night. And what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you can do able it to correct it sooner. And can you complain when they were expected to do it for free? What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the tech on-call and make them go out, if needed. I often do the off-hour repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the week, and they need the rest. I recently offloaded the night monitoring to one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty so I have appropriate checks and balances. I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it. What I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Hi, That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only work 40 hours per week unless they are a "manager", meaning they have 3 people "under" them, or they are a "professional" position (lawyer, doctor, etc.). One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40,000 for the 2 year period). We have guys on call. If they have to go after hours, we give them time off during the payperiod so they aren't over 40 hours. Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: chris cooper wrote: How do the rest of you compensate tech staff for on call duties? We have an on call tech that monitors network remotely throughout weekend and is responsible for rolling to tower/major customer in case of outage. Put 'em on salary, that way you can work them as much as you want without guilt. ;) I'm not a tower climber, but I'm the one on-call pretty much all the time. In the event of a big problem, I'll usually triage it (drive to the tower, see if it's just a power outage or something else I can't easily fix), and if it's something for which we need the tower guy, I call him (and he gets normal overtime pay). David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http:/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
I just got Patrick out of the Alvarion AIR Summit meeting that is going on at Corporate. Many of our VAR partners are in Mountain View for a few days getting briefed on Roadmaps, this new wisp program, and other things. His email will go out in the next couple hours. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The > suspense is killing me. :) > > Brian > > Rick Smith wrote: > >>yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. >> >>I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. >> >>I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if >>not >>better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul >>everywhere...or bigger. :) >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini >>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM >>To: 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! >> >>No details on the website... >> >>Gino A. Villarini >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! >> >>Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news >>was >>released by Alvarion. >>The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the >>show. >>I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. >>There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their >>customer. >>A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Spring 2007
Yeah, it was pretty disappointing. We ran out of food but had beer left over. How sick is that? hehehehehe The meeting was great. Heck, the show was great. There are more new things happening right now than I ever remember seeing. MissingKids.org has got some exciting things going on. Trend Micro and Check Point are either doing or looking at offering a nice wholesale program for the average operator. I found a couple of VOIP companies that are offering Vonage type services that the ISP can private label! Turn key * systems were there. And I saw a really cool off site backup program that not only sent your data off site, it also split it up over several servers. Pretty cool stuff. If only I could have hit the other half of the show floor! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Spring 2007 You might want to float the idea of having WISPA's next meeting at ISPCON in Orlando in May. Planning ahead could be helpful. We had 30+ people in the room this time. Be good to have 50 next time. -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
In a nut shell, Patrick (yes Patrick) has come up with a program specifically aimed at the WISPs. We'll get volume discounts of over 70% (can't remember the exact number) with purchases of a whopping 25 units per QUARTER. There are additional discounts that add to this depending upon how many WISPs overall purchase the gear. Very cool stuff. I saw the program and said "Hell, *I* can do that!" I got a big grin out of Patrick with that one. hehehehe It'll take a while for us to install enough APs to drive that kind of volume for me. I do more volume than that as it is, but I'll not be putting VL at all 20 tower sites over night. Certainly something to think about for our bigger sites though. I really like this program. Finally I don't feel like my business is being used to subsidize the bigger (read telco) players. My hope is that this program will set a precedent in the market place. We may be small but we're growing, fast. There were more 1000 and up WISPs at ISPCon than you could shake a stick at. Very cool. Now we have to wait and see if Alvarion can stick with this program for the next 3 years so that the market has time to install the base stations needed to really make this new model shine. Thanks again Patrick. Your loyalty to our industry segment is much appreciated! It was great to see ya. The beard really does have to go though! Makes ya look lll... cackle Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news was released by Alvarion. The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the show. I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their customer. A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford Alvarion. Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to discover when checking out the program. But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential. Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT: The AlvarionCOMNET is coming 11/13... And WISPA members at the meeting at ISPCON will get a detailed sneak preview. I look forward to seeing many of you there. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Service in Colorado?
Too bad it isn't Vail ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Service in Colorado? Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in Colorado?
Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
There was a public release that came out this morning. I got it via what I assume is Alvarion's direct email list. I'm not a current Alvarion user, but I am on their mailing list, so I'm not sure how else I would have gotten it. It seems to be a public release / announcement. - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Paul, Patrick said they will make an announcement. We don't feel that it is WISPA's place to make this public announcement until it is sent to us for dispersal. I'm sure there are legal ramifications that could come from pre-announcement releases. I strongly advise those who have been privy to the initial release at ISPCON to refrain from sending it to the list. Please be patient as Patrick works on California time and it is still morning out there. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! It's Monday morning ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAir
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
If you guys wanted to know S bad, you shoul dhave come to ISPCON :) The next one is in Orlando on May 23-25, 2007. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
I m still waiting on the copy from Alvarion. Once I get it you will get it. Thanks! Scriv Paul Hendry wrote: Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! It's Monday morning ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The suspense is killing me. :) Brian Rick Smith wrote: yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if not better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul everywhere...or bigger. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! No details on the website... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Se
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
Thanks guys. Patrick, is there a reason this is only available to the US? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: 13 November 2006 18:44 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > It's Monday morning ;) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad > mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that > will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed > pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one > distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received > a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. > > Everything will be ready and waiting. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities > to > connect to the Internet. > The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and > program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure > > what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. > > The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always > wanted > to buy, but thought you could never afford. > There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan > is > not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via > > online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I > was so > excited. This program is something that never could have happened > without > someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of > > WISPs, and went to bat for us. > > What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how > can > they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher > volume > of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best > of > Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic > expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete > against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based > on > whether the features and design of the product is the best product for > the > job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a > WISP > to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / > carrier class gear within their reach. > > Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and > without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does > not > take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. > > But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual > product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the > appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and > > I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > >> Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The >> suspense is killing me. :) >> >> Brian >> >> Rick Smith wrote: >> >>>yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. >>> >>>I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. >>> >>>I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, > if >>>not >>>better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul >>>everywhere...or bigger. :) >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >>>Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini >>>Sent: Thursday, November 09
Re: *** Spam *** RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
It has not been seen on any list yet. (not the 6-8 I'm on) Paul Hendry wrote: Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! It's Monday morning ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The suspense is killing me. :) Brian Rick Smith wrote: yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if not better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul everywhere...or bigger. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! No details on the website... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
Paul, Patrick said they will make an announcement. We don't feel that it is WISPA's place to make this public announcement until it is sent to us for dispersal. I'm sure there are legal ramifications that could come from pre-announcement releases. I strongly advise those who have been privy to the initial release at ISPCON to refrain from sending it to the list. Please be patient as Patrick works on California time and it is still morning out there. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > It's Monday morning ;) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad > mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that > will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed > pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one > distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received > a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. > > Everything will be ready and waiting. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities > to > connect to the Internet. > The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and > program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure > > what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. > > The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always > wanted > to buy, but thought you could never afford. > There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan > is > not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via > > online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I > was so > excited. This program is something that never could have happened > without > someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of > > WISPs, and went to bat for us. > > What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how > can > they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher > volume > of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best > of > Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic > expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete > against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based > on > whether the features and design of the product is the best product for > the > job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a > WISP > to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / > carrier class gear within their reach. > > Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and > without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does > not > take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. > > But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual > product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the > appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and > > I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > >> Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The >> suspens
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
Did it not get sent to the list? Anyone forward it offlist? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: 13 November 2006 14:53 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > It's Monday morning ;) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad > mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that > will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed > pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one > distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received > a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. > > Everything will be ready and waiting. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities > to > connect to the Internet. > The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and > program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure > > what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. > > The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always > wanted > to buy, but thought you could never afford. > There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan > is > not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via > > online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I > was so > excited. This program is something that never could have happened > without > someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of > > WISPs, and went to bat for us. > > What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how > can > they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher > volume > of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best > of > Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic > expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete > against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based > on > whether the features and design of the product is the best product for > the > job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a > WISP > to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / > carrier class gear within their reach. > > Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and > without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does > not > take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. > > But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual > product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the > appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and > > I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > > >> Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The >> suspense is killing me. :) >> >> Brian >> >> Rick Smith wrote: >> >>>yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. >>> >>>I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. >>> >>>I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, > if >>>not >>>better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul >>>everywhere...or bigger. :) >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On >>>Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini >>>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM >>>To: 'WISPA General List' >>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! >>> >>>No details on the website... >>> >>>Gino A. Villarini >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>> >>>-Original Messag
Re: [WISPA] on call staff
In Maryland, if you call him a network administrator they are now qualified as a hi-tech/computer feild, and you must pay him 6 times the minimum wage to by-pass overtime laws. The better way to do it, is give the on call duty personel titles that are NON-technical such as "installers and drivers". In a past law suit, we got around it by finding a law that basically stated that if they were an inter-state (driving between two states) driver they were exempt from overtime laws. This law was meant for truck drivers, but was still legal to apply to other industries that had similar duties. The fact that your installers work with out supervision, and often cross state lines (in our case 3 states), and transport goods (the radio equipment needed) it qualified them. I don't remember if this was state or federal law. This solved the problem for us, but if someone else plans to use this legislation as the basis for no overtime, it should be addressed in advance with your attorney, on whether it fits your case, and he feels he can use it to defend you on your specific case. The technical administrators are the guys in the office instructing, and the guys in the field are the "drivers" delivering good and manual labor unloading the gear onto the tower mounts :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Travis Johnson wrote: That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only work 40 hours per week unless they are a "manager", meaning they have 3 people "under" them, or they are a "professional" position (lawyer, doctor, etc.). My business card says "Network Administrator," which probably qualifies me as a professional. Realistically, though, it's rarely a problem; we only have big weekend outages once every couple of months. Besides, it gets me out of the house. :D Obviously, this is one of those things that will vary from state to state, and is probably best taken up with your friendly neighbourhood lawyer. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VeriWave Detects Problem in PLCP in 802.11 Networks
VeriWave Detects Problem in PLCP in 802.11 Networks -- A VeriWave engineer has detected a problem with the physical layer convergence procedure (PLCP) in 802.11 networks that could affect voice quality in VoWiFi applications as well create problems with end-user network authentication. The source of the problem is the single parity bit in the header, which can corrupt the header. To make things worse, the engineer has claimed that due the nature of the problem, the network may not recognize that it is dropping packets, as packet retransmissions would occur during the receiver's blind period. VeriWave's CTO discovered the problem while working on test generation and wireless performance for the IEEE 802.11t Task Group. VeriWave http://www.veriwave.com -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC says No to Cyren Call
FCC denies group's request for rights to public airwaves Washington Business Journal - November 10, 2006 by Ben Hammer Staff Reporter http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2006/11/13/story11.html?t=printable The Federal Communications Commission has shut the door on Nextel co-founder Morgan O'Brien's request to set aside a portion of the country's airwaves for a public safety network to be managed by his new company. O'Brien is co-founder and chairman of McLean-based Cyren Call Communications, which had asked the FCC for airwave rights that a proposed public-private initiative could use to build a communications network for public safety officials. The company would collect fees from industry partners who would pay for the ability to provide services over the network for government agencies. The airwaves that Cyren Call wants reserved for the network are scheduled to be auctioned for commercial use by Jan. 28, 2008. The FCC asked for public comment on Cyren Call's proposal Oct. 30 and then dismissed it in a Nov. 3 ruling, saying the request was "inconsistent" with existing law. The decision now puts the spotlight on the next stage in Cyren Call's strategy: Persuade Congress to pass legislation that would clear the way for FCC approval of its proposal. The company says Congress needs to act by next fall to leave enough time for the FCC to act on the proposal before the scheduled auction. Cyren Call did get one concession from the FCC. The agency let the public comment period continue through Nov. 29. "Our focus has been to get a record created at the commission that we could share with our friends in Congress," says co-founder John Melcher, Cyren Call's executive vice president for external affairs. "It helps to have that when you hit the Hill." Cyren Call is supporting its campaign with a $4 million war chest secured earlier this year from Columbia Capital of D.C., New Enterprise Associates of Baltimore and Silicon Valley firms Battery Ventures and Oak Investment Partners. The company has won the endorsement of some public safety groups for certain aspects of its proposal, but many people in the communications field and other industries oppose the plan. "We strongly believe that the spectrum should be auctioned," says Chris Guttman-McCabe, vice president of regulatory affairs for CTIA-The Wireless Association, which represents 300 wireless carriers, device manufacturers and equipment companies. "It makes sense from a competitive perspective." His group also opposes a separate proposal by D.C. startup M2Z Networks, which wants the FCC to issue it a license for spectrum that would typically be auctioned off. M2Z would use the license to build a national broadband network that would provide free low-speed service and sell high-speed service. The company would pay 5 percent of the revenue to the U.S. treasury. It has raised $10 million from investors who have committed up to $400 million to build the network. M2Z co-founder and CEO John Muleta says the Cyren Call ruling has no impact on M2Z. He says M2Z's plans are entirely different, in part because the company is seeking access to different sets of airwaves. M2Z faces significant challenges in advancing its plan, says lawyer Shirley Fujimoto of McDermott, Will & Emery, who heads the D.C. office's telecommunications practice and is following both M2Z and Cyren Call for clients. "The FCC in recent history has preferred to have spectrum allocated in public auctions," she says. "This flies in the face of that." -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 1.3Ghz spectrum
Any word on who is going after this spectrum in the upcoming auctions on February 7th? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
I got it here. It looks like a great program, but Patrick, why only the 5.8 gear included in this? Doesn't help us out much where we have TONS of trees, right? Why no 2.4 or 900 gear included in the program too? - Original Message - From: "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:28 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! It's Monday morning ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The suspense is killing me. :) Brian Rick Smith wrote: yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if not better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul everywhere...or bigger. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! No details on the website... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news was released by Alvarion. The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the show. I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their custom
[WISPA] ISPCON Conference Call
You have been reading the blog notes about this Fall's exciting ISPCON (http://radinfo.blogspot.com/), but tomorrow (Tuesday, Nov. 14) at 3 PM Eastern you can talk to me about it. I didn't hit every session - but I tried to! So look at the ISPCON website (www.ispcon.com) to see if any of the session topics interest you - and I will be happy to share what I heard about it. RSVP for the conference bridge. Thank you. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
It's Monday morning ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: 10 November 2006 22:29 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! On Monday morning a mail will hit the WISPA list (sent via WISPA's ad mechanism, not as a post) that will have a letter from me. Within that will be a link to a jump page where you can get access to the detailed pdf. This version of pdf will have more price details than the one distributed at the WISPA meeting, so those 30 or so of you that received a hard copy the other night may want to pull down the other one. Everything will be ready and waiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! > Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The > suspense is killing me. :) > > Brian > > Rick Smith wrote: > >>yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. >> >>I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. >> >>I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if >>not >>better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul >>everywhere...or bigger. :) >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini >>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM >>To: 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! >> >>No details on the website... >> >>Gino A. Villarini >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! >> >>Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news >>was >>released by Alvarion. >>The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the >>show. >>I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. >>There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their >>customer. >>A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford Alvarion. >>Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to discover >>when checking out the program. >>But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential. >>Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch. >> >>Tom DeRe