Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[N White]

Butch Evans wrote:
I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process of 
evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I would 
just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux thing...FreeBSD 
makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please), but their desktop 
OS is not the best.


Ubuntu is good, but I couldn't get it to work with my Broadcom (ugh) 
laptop minipci card straight after install. I tried a few, and the only 
one that worked was Linspire. It's pretty desktop friendly. 
Debian-based. I recommend either Ubuntu or Linspire.


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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[Pete Davis]

PCBSD.org has a Freebsd-based desktop environment that is pretty nice. 
Two ISO files, and its complete with "office" apps, etc.


I loaded it on a "kiosk" type PC for the lobby of a hotel that we 
support, and made an auto-login account with almost no rights, and 1 
desktop icon, Firefox, labeled "the internet". I haven't received any 
calls about it being trashed with spyware, viruses, cutesy mouse 
pointers and screen savers,  or just generally fouled up. I mainly put 
it there so customers with goofed up laptops who would call to say "the 
internet is down" could go there to check their hotmail instead of 
bugging me.
The PlugNPlay, I found to be very good, as it detected all the devices 
on the 3 or 4 PC's I have installed on.


If you REALLY want to go Linux (non-BSD) then I would vote for Ubuntu 
like the others on this list have.


pd

Butch Evans wrote:
I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process of 
evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I would just 
go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux thing...FreeBSD makes the 
BEST server platform (no flames, please), but their desktop OS is not 
the best.




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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[Bo Hamilton]

Yes Ubunto!

Bo


On 1/11/07, W.D.McKinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello Butch,

Yes FreeBSD is great. That's why I have a MacBook Pro.
:-)

-Dee


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From: Butch Evans
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Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:44:59 -0900
Subject:
[WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop


> I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process
> of evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I
> would just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux
> thing...FreeBSD makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please),
> but their desktop OS is not the best.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[W.D.McKinney]

Hello Butch,

Yes FreeBSD is great. That's why I have a MacBook Pro. 
:-)

-Dee


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- Original Message -
From: Butch Evans
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Wispa List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:44:59 -0900
Subject:
[WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop


> I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process 
> of evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I 
> would just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux 
> thing...FreeBSD makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please), 
> but their desktop OS is not the best.
> 
> -- 
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[WISPA] New WISPA Principle Member

[John Scrivner]

We are seeing more momentum toward new paid membership in WISPA and I 
really appreciate that. The latest WISP operator to join is Greg Coffey 
of Alluretech / Coffeynet. I am sure I speak for all of us in saying 
welcome to Greg and thank you for your support to our industry. Here are 
a few words from Greg about himself and Coffeynet:


I'm Greg Coffey, owner of Alluretech/Coffeynet based out of Casper, WY.  
I got into the wireless back in the 90's deploying Breezecom frequency 
hopping radios.  I sold the business and later bought out another local 
WISP almost three years ago.  We cover most of Natrona County at this 
point and deploy 2.4 and 5.x equipment using mostly Star-OS AP's and 
Tranzeo CPE.  I'm really impressed with their slim line series, both 2.4 
and 5.8.  We're in the middle of the worst blizzard we've had in years 
and nothing has gone down yet, knock on wood!


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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[rabbtux rabbtux]

Easy & with the highest 'user friendly' factor for kids, family,
non-computer geeks ==> Ubuntu
Most technically advanced, source build distribution ==>gentoo

Those are probably the two ends of the spectrum :-)

On 1/11/07, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process
of evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I
would just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux
thing...FreeBSD makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please),
but their desktop OS is not the best.

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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[Bob Knight]

Personally, I use ubuntu. Like it, primarily because it's debian-based (I like the debian 
package system a lot more than the rpm varieties), very actively supported/developed, and 
hacker friendly. Have about 7 ubuntu machines at home (some of which are servers for the 
community wireless network that I'm involved with).


Must use RHEL at work (CentOS is free tracker of same, Fedora is bleeding edge) and not 
nearly as happy with it. However, RHEL is intended for enterprise deployment, and works 
well for that---my day job is managing the standards/tools development and central 
services team for an environment that's about 25000 desktops and servers, mostly Windows, 
Mac, Linux and Solaris---as it's version-stable for fairly long periods of time.


You could get vmware player, stand up some virtual machines and decide from there. Fairly 
lightweight way to sample things.


BTW, I agree that FreeBSD is an excellent server platform as well...

FWIW,
Bob


Butch Evans wrote:
I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process of 
evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I would just 
go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux thing...FreeBSD makes the 
BEST server platform (no flames, please), but their desktop OS is not 
the best.


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[WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

[Butch Evans]

I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process 
of evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I 
would just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux 
thing...FreeBSD makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please), 
but their desktop OS is not the best.


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RE: [WISPA] i-phone

[Jonathan Schmidt]

I bought a Nokia E61 in Germany.  I slipped my Cingular SIM card into it and
I'm on the air.  The Cingular version cripples Wi-Fi...don't get it.  This
is the same phone with Wi-Fi.

So, with mine, I am my office phone extension off our office Asterisk VoIP
wherever there's a hotspot.. for free and that's important in Europe where
Cingular charges me $1.35/min to use my phone.  That coupled with Bluetooth,
apps that display PDFs, WORD, Powerpoint, etc., it's a terrific phone ...I'm
just waiting for the Apple iPhone with the bigger display that should do the
same. At my age, I need a bigger display.

The Cingular "Edge" is about like a bonded ISDN speed through Cingular
instead of a hotspot.  It's not bad for $19.95/mo. for all you can eat but
not capable of good VoIP.  But, browsing and IMAP E-mail...it's a terrific
alternative.

Nevertheless, with both Wi-Fi and "Edge" I'm covered.  I also use the GPRS
when on trains.  On Amtrack, it's all free...part of the $19.95 monthly
Internet access fee.  But, it was amazing when I went from Brussels to Paris
on the fast train and my laptop never missed a beat with its Internet
connection via Bluetooth through my pocket phone through their GPRS.  Of
course, when I got back, I had a $200 bill for the European connectivity!

Again, if the Apple iPhone is as capable as my Nokia E61...with a bigger
screen and lots of memory...and, thinner?...I'll get it.

. . . j o n a t h a n

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] i-phone

I tend to disagree. I WILL own one and I suspect it will become my 
primary communications device in my life.
Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> We'll have to wait and see.  I think that this will mostly be a niche 
> product.  The ipod folks might like it most, but there are a LOT of 
> non ipod devices that do a nicer job and cost far less money if the 
> stuff in my house is any indication.
>
> When the cell phone companies set the phones up to use their cell 
> infrastructure OR a local wifi connection and are able to drop their 
> costs because of it, I think it'll take off right nicely.  Till then, 
> lots of press cause all of the press folks love Apple eh?  grin
>
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:05 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] i-phone
>
>
>> How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
>> affect your business?  Will this be positive because it drives more
>> customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or, will
>> it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular carrier's
>> networks?  Will they get into the wi-fi space?  Should we be preparing
>> for a cingular nodes on every available street level piece of vertical
>> realestate?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Intelliwave
>>
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RE: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

[Gino A. Villarini]

Manage p2p
Kill spam
Kill network viruses
Kill malicious traffic
Prioritize protocols

Capable of inspecting layer 2 traffinc including vlans

Gino A. Villarini
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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:37 PM
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Gino, what is it exactly you want to do?...squelch P2P outbound?...kill off
bots sending SPAM?...
. . . j o n a t h a n

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Anyone with experience with Allot ?

Gino A. Villarini
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I was looking for the same. Someone on the list said they looked at 
Juniper and someone else and settled upon Astaro.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:

>We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would
alert
>us of malicious traffic...
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Gino A. Villarini
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RE: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

[Jonathan Schmidt]

Gino, what is it exactly you want to do?...squelch P2P outbound?...kill off
bots sending SPAM?...
. . . j o n a t h a n

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Anyone with experience with Allot ?

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

I was looking for the same. Someone on the list said they looked at 
Juniper and someone else and settled upon Astaro.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:

>We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would
alert
>us of malicious traffic...
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

[Gino A. Villarini]

Anyone with experience with Allot ?

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

I was looking for the same. Someone on the list said they looked at 
Juniper and someone else and settled upon Astaro.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:

>We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would
alert
>us of malicious traffic...
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Gino A. Villarini
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>  
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Re: [WISPA] i-phone

[Travis Johnson]

I agree with John. Apple has done it again with this phone. Think "ipod". :)

Apple has always been my favorite company (since I started with my Apple 
][+ with 48k of RAM). They spend more money on R&D than any other 
company out there, and it's finally starting to pay off. Eventually 
everything they do gets copied by everyone else... and this phone will 
be no different. It will just take everyone else 2 years to catch up.


Travis
Microserv

John Scrivner wrote:
I tend to disagree. I WILL own one and I suspect it will become my 
primary communications device in my life.

Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We'll have to wait and see.  I think that this will mostly be a niche 
product.  The ipod folks might like it most, but there are a LOT of 
non ipod devices that do a nicer job and cost far less money if the 
stuff in my house is any indication.


When the cell phone companies set the phones up to use their cell 
infrastructure OR a local wifi connection and are able to drop their 
costs because of it, I think it'll take off right nicely.  Till then, 
lots of press cause all of the press folks love Apple eh?  grin


Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: "chris cooper" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [WISPA] i-phone



How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
affect your business?  Will this be positive because it drives more
customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or, will
it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular 
carrier's

networks?  Will they get into the wi-fi space?  Should we be preparing
for a cingular nodes on every available street level piece of vertical
realestate?



Chris

Intelliwave

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[WISPA] Do you have something to say?

[John Scrivner]

I always like sending out messages like this because it is 
representative of why we have a trade association. Denise Miller from 
ISPCON (aka. The Golden Group) just sent me a note to let us know she 
wants to see some WISPA involvement in their next show. This helps 
ISPCON with attendance and helps us to work together to help the industry.


If you have an idea that you would like to speak about then let your 
voice be heard. Go to the link below and send in your request to speak. 
Have someone in mind you would like to speak? Then prod them and give 
them some ideas what you might like to see discussed. Maybe you don't 
want to speak but would like to see a topic discussed, debated, etc.? 
This is a good place to open up some dialog. I want to know what you all 
want to hear at a show and who you want to hear speak. Here is the 
request from Denise:


Wanted to make sure you knew that the call for papers submission form 
for ISPCON Spring 2007 speaking slots is up and running on the site at 
http://www.ispcon.com/speak.php



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RE: [WISPA] i-phone

[chris cooper]

Didn't apple sign a deal w/ cingular?

Chris

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] i-phone

I tend to disagree. I WILL own one and I suspect it will become my 
primary communications device in my life.
Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> We'll have to wait and see.  I think that this will mostly be a niche 
> product.  The ipod folks might like it most, but there are a LOT of 
> non ipod devices that do a nicer job and cost far less money if the 
> stuff in my house is any indication.
>
> When the cell phone companies set the phones up to use their cell 
> infrastructure OR a local wifi connection and are able to drop their 
> costs because of it, I think it'll take off right nicely.  Till then, 
> lots of press cause all of the press folks love Apple eh?  grin
>
> Marlon
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> - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:05 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] i-phone
>
>
>> How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
>> affect your business?  Will this be positive because it drives more
>> customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or,
will
>> it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular
carrier's
>> networks?  Will they get into the wi-fi space?  Should we be
preparing
>> for a cingular nodes on every available street level piece of
vertical
>> realestate?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
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Re: [WISPA] i-phone

[John Scrivner]

I tend to disagree. I WILL own one and I suspect it will become my 
primary communications device in my life.

Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We'll have to wait and see.  I think that this will mostly be a niche 
product.  The ipod folks might like it most, but there are a LOT of 
non ipod devices that do a nicer job and cost far less money if the 
stuff in my house is any indication.


When the cell phone companies set the phones up to use their cell 
infrastructure OR a local wifi connection and are able to drop their 
costs because of it, I think it'll take off right nicely.  Till then, 
lots of press cause all of the press folks love Apple eh?  grin


Marlon
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- Original Message - From: "chris cooper" 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [WISPA] i-phone



How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
affect your business?  Will this be positive because it drives more
customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or, will
it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular carrier's
networks?  Will they get into the wi-fi space?  Should we be preparing
for a cingular nodes on every available street level piece of vertical
realestate?



Chris

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Re: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

[Tom DeReggi]

I got to agree with you Marty...
These cell towers are going to accomplish nothing but allow high powered 
cell phones to come to town, and likely more of a threat than a help.
They are designed for cell phone equipment, the only ones able to afford the 
rent, and likely using broadband as a means to justify what they really 
want.
The Loudon hill sides are rolling, and I'd think the answer lies in using 
the hills, not the towers.


But whether towers should be allowed or not, for what ever reason, thats a 
whole nother topic.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:04 PM
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Just to clarify this comment- "Instead, what may happen is that "cell
phones will become our competitors; they usually don't deploy on
anything less than
high tower."

I was not quoted exactly correct. My concern is that the cell phone
focused towers would compete with towers that would actually help
broadband providers like Roadstarafter all, how many towers will
they allow?

Marty



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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:19 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

By Therese Howe
(Created: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:08 AM EST)

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Focus on the county's broadband debate has shifted westward, where
residents will be asked to answer the question of whether they're
willing to trade their views for high-speed Internet service.

Almost a year after supervisors scrapped a proposal to build a $320
million fiber-optic network that would serve the entire county, the
county is now reframing the broadband access debate to focus on wireless

as the potential answer to increase the availability of high-speed
Internet service, particularly in the west.

Anyone with a stake in the issue-from residents who have been unable to
get broadband to companies offering to build towers from which wireless
service could be provided, to the county's current wireless providers-is

invited to provide input Jan. 23 when the board of supervisors' Economic

Development Committee is scheduled to take up the topic.

At that meeting, county Broadband Services Manager Scott Bashore will
provide a recap of the county's broadband efforts, leading up to why
"wireless makes the most sense for western Loudoun," said Supervisor
Lori Waters (R-Broad Run), who chairs the committee.

The county has set a goal of expanding broadband availability in the
county to 90 percent from its current 86 percent, according to Bashore,
who adds that the service is primarily offered in the east, where the
majority of the county's population resides.

Bashore also is working on updating the county's Strategic Land Use Plan

for Telecommunications Facilities, which was last changed in 2002.

"The original intent was for it to be good for about five years, so
we're on track with updating it," Bashore said, adding that in the past
four years, the market has changed with new towers being built and fewer

national telecommunications carriers offering service.

Part of the impetus behind the county's efforts has been the upswing in
the number of applications for towers and monopoles to provide cellular
and high-speed Internet services.

"I thought it was important to get ahead of the game before dealing with

these applications for individual monopoles. We need to take a look at
the big picture ... and know where it fits in the plan rather than
piecemeal," Waters said.

Among the proposals are two submitted by Community Wireless Structures,
a Falls Church company that builds 100- to 200-foot structures from
which carriers such as Verizon and Cingular can provide cellular and
wireless Internet service.

One proposal, for a 120-foot pole south of Leesburg in Virts Corner, was

forwarded on Tuesday to the board of supervisors' Feb. 6 meeting for
action. Supervisors hope to see the company accede to residents'
requests for a pole disguised as a tree rather than the company's
proposed graduated paint monopole.

The second proposal was filed Dec. 29 and is more expansive, calling for

six sites in northwestern Loudoun that have one or two poles of 100 or
150 feet high. The company has leased locations at White's Ferry,
Taylorstown, Round Hill, on Mountain Road on the east side of Short Hill

Mountain, at the intersection of Rts. 9 and 287, and on the east side of

Rt. 287 near Lovettsville.

"We know whenever solutions are proposed, they encounter local
opposition," said Bob Gordon, an attorney who is a partner in the
company, adding that the concern "all boils down to visual impact."

To provide information to the pu

RE: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

[Marty Dougherty]

Another angle-
http://www.loudountimesmirror.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=17690001&BRD=2553
&PAG=461&dept_id=506035&rfi=6


Six 140-foot monopoles have been proposed in northwestern Loudoun County
to increase wireless Internet and cellular access in rural Loudoun.

Low population density in the west fails to entice traditional cable and
DSL providers, leaving many residents without hi-speed Internet service
and with spotty cell service.

The company that filed the application with the county, Falls
Church-based Community Wireless Structures, wants to build the monopoles
to co-locate various wireless companies' antennas - lowering providers'
initial investment and bringing wider coverage and more options for
residents. 


But even CWS officials admit that getting rural Loudounites to support
six 140-foot poles will take a special effort.

Connecting in Loudoun

Broadband technology, loosely defined, is an Internet connection that
processes data at 200 kilobyte/sec and faster. Fiber-optic cable is the
fastest way to receive broadband now.

Final approval of the structures rests with the Board of Supervisors,
and two public hearings must be held - in front of the Planning
Commission as well as the board. The dates have not been set, but CWS
hopes for mid-year hearings.

In anticipation of opposition, the company has launched a Web site with
maps of the proposed sites and detailed information on the benefits of
wireless.

"I don't want to seem too glib or cavalier, but people fight and fight
[monopoles] and after they're built, people stop seeing them," said Bob
Gordon, CWS's attorney and an investor in the company.

The current Board of Supervisors has made it a priority to expand
broadband coverage in order to attract businesses, promote teleworking
and improve emergency communications.

Scott Bashore, the newly hired head of Loudoun County's Broadband
Services department, has determined that wireless Internet remains the
most feasible way to expand broadband in the county's west.

The debate now focuses on the delivery mode: a network of a few tall
towers - 140 feet - or many small towers - 60 to 70 feet, some of which
could be installed on existing structures, such as water towers and
flagpoles.

Several companies, such as Loudoun Wireless and Roadstar, have been
providing wireless Internet service in western Loudoun for several
years.

Marty Dougherty, founder and CEO of Roadstar, said his Leesburg-based
company already provides 2,000 homes in western Loudoun with wireless
broadband service. He said he has been consistently left out of the
current debate on county policy.

"We are being ignored, and I think the reason is -- the answers are not
easy and [county officials] want easy answers," Dougherty said. He said
there's no silver-bullet solution. Because of Loudoun's hills and dense
tree cover, he said, even the taller towers won't be able to deliver
wireless Internet to all residents.

"There is no way that radio waves can travel through the earth. Even the
Board of Supervisors can't change that," Dougherty said.

He supports a network of many different providers, with shorter poles to
customize wireless delivery to each western community.

Gordon disagrees. He said fewer taller towers would minimize the visual
impact and offer wider coverage to lure bigger providers to invest. He
also added that short towers aren't easy to get approved.

"Western Loudoun is littered with the graves of applications for short
towers."

For details on the location of Community Wireless Structures' six
proposed monopoles, go to www.getLoudounonline.com .



Contact the reporter at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


CTimes Community Newspapers 2007

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Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:19 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

By Therese Howe
(Created: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:08 AM EST)

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Focus on the county's broadband debate has shifted westward, where 
residents will be asked to answer the question of whether they're 
willing to trade their views for high-speed Internet service.

Almost a year after supervisors scrapped a proposal to build a $320 
million fiber-optic network that would serve the entire county, the 
county is now reframing the broadband access debate to focus on wireless

as the potential answer to increase the availability of high-speed 
Internet service, particularly in the west.

Anyone with a stake in the issue-from residents who have been unable to 
get broadband to companies offering to build towers from which wireless 
service could be provided, to the county's current wireless providers-is

invited to provide input Jan. 23 when the board of supervisors' Economic

Development Committee is scheduled to take up the topic.

At that meeting, county Broadband Services M

RE: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

[Marty Dougherty]

Just to clarify this comment- "Instead, what may happen is that "cell
phones will become our competitors; they usually don't deploy on
anything less than 
high tower." 

I was not quoted exactly correct. My concern is that the cell phone
focused towers would compete with towers that would actually help
broadband providers like Roadstarafter all, how many towers will
they allow?

Marty



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:19 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

By Therese Howe
(Created: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:08 AM EST)

| Text Size | print | e-mail | comment (0)
Focus on the county's broadband debate has shifted westward, where 
residents will be asked to answer the question of whether they're 
willing to trade their views for high-speed Internet service.

Almost a year after supervisors scrapped a proposal to build a $320 
million fiber-optic network that would serve the entire county, the 
county is now reframing the broadband access debate to focus on wireless

as the potential answer to increase the availability of high-speed 
Internet service, particularly in the west.

Anyone with a stake in the issue-from residents who have been unable to 
get broadband to companies offering to build towers from which wireless 
service could be provided, to the county's current wireless providers-is

invited to provide input Jan. 23 when the board of supervisors' Economic

Development Committee is scheduled to take up the topic.

At that meeting, county Broadband Services Manager Scott Bashore will 
provide a recap of the county's broadband efforts, leading up to why 
"wireless makes the most sense for western Loudoun," said Supervisor 
Lori Waters (R-Broad Run), who chairs the committee.

The county has set a goal of expanding broadband availability in the 
county to 90 percent from its current 86 percent, according to Bashore, 
who adds that the service is primarily offered in the east, where the 
majority of the county's population resides.

Bashore also is working on updating the county's Strategic Land Use Plan

for Telecommunications Facilities, which was last changed in 2002.

"The original intent was for it to be good for about five years, so 
we're on track with updating it," Bashore said, adding that in the past 
four years, the market has changed with new towers being built and fewer

national telecommunications carriers offering service.

Part of the impetus behind the county's efforts has been the upswing in 
the number of applications for towers and monopoles to provide cellular 
and high-speed Internet services.

"I thought it was important to get ahead of the game before dealing with

these applications for individual monopoles. We need to take a look at 
the big picture ... and know where it fits in the plan rather than 
piecemeal," Waters said.

Among the proposals are two submitted by Community Wireless Structures, 
a Falls Church company that builds 100- to 200-foot structures from 
which carriers such as Verizon and Cingular can provide cellular and 
wireless Internet service.

One proposal, for a 120-foot pole south of Leesburg in Virts Corner, was

forwarded on Tuesday to the board of supervisors' Feb. 6 meeting for 
action. Supervisors hope to see the company accede to residents' 
requests for a pole disguised as a tree rather than the company's 
proposed graduated paint monopole.

The second proposal was filed Dec. 29 and is more expansive, calling for

six sites in northwestern Loudoun that have one or two poles of 100 or 
150 feet high. The company has leased locations at White's Ferry, 
Taylorstown, Round Hill, on Mountain Road on the east side of Short Hill

Mountain, at the intersection of Rts. 9 and 287, and on the east side of

Rt. 287 near Lovettsville.

"We know whenever solutions are proposed, they encounter local 
opposition," said Bob Gordon, an attorney who is a partner in the 
company, adding that the concern "all boils down to visual impact."

To provide information to the public and increase public awareness of 
the project, the company has created a Web site, 
www.getloudounonline.org, that solicits input from residents and offers 
information on upcoming public hearings. The company expects the first 
to occur in the spring before the county's planning commission, then in 
the summer before the board of supervisors.

"We want to hear from people who are still on dial-up and tired of it or

are very frustrated because when they're driving, the cell phone blinks 
out," Gordon said. "We feel there's a silent majority, but do they care 
enough to get to the public hearings?"

As the county gears up to handle the monopole applications and prepares 
to address the broader question of expanding broadband availability, 
current wireless providers such as Marty D

RE: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Kelly Shaw]

I just downloaded and installed this bandwidthmeter program on a
FreeBSD/Apache box and ran it using FireFox and IE.  Although the program
looks good and and some really cool features, it is still kind of buggy. I'd
hold off on using it until it is cleaned up a tad. 

Kelly Shaw
Pure Internet
www.pure.net
 

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Bo Hamilton wrote:

>Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. 
>Can someone on the list help me?

http://www.gambitdesign.com/bandwidthmeter/ is a decent one.  It tests
download only.

You can run something like Qcheck (google that one) or use Mikrotik's
bandwidth tester (there is a windows client).

If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from
http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive option, though.

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Tom DeReggi]

Take note that most typical web based speed testers using basic scripting or 
html will not give you accurate consistent results.
The reason is the web server OS (Apache or IIS) software itself can not 
respond fast enough with accurate timing to the system clock.

A speedtest is pointless if not accurate.

In most cases the Speed test must be written in something like Java. I'm not 
stating what languages are and are not fast enough, just feedback that the 
issue exists.
This is the reason that we pulled down the 3 or 4 attempts that we made to 
make a speed test.  You might not notice this when testing speeds under 1 
mb,. but you will when testing above 1 mbps speeds. also take note that many 
web based speed tests do not take in concideration certain 1 time delays 
that might me unique to a wireless connection, and report misleading 
results.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:31 PM
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Bo Hamilton wrote:

Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. Can 
someone on the list help me?


http://www.gambitdesign.com/bandwidthmeter/ is a decent one.  It tests 
download only.


You can run something like Qcheck (google that one) or use Mikrotik's 
bandwidth tester (there is a windows client).


If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from 
http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive option, 
though.


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[WISPA] Looking for Trangos

[wifi]

Hello List.

Looking for used, but working, 5830 Trango SU's

 

Thanks.

Victoria Proffer

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StLBroadband.com

314-974-5600

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Bo Hamilton]

THanks matt I will look at that as well

Bo


On 1/11/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Butch Evans wrote:
> If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from
> http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive option,
> though.
>
Just host a speedtest.net site. It only costs you bandwidth. You can try
ours at the Atlanta speedtest.net location.

-Matt
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Bo Hamilton]

Mac - yes this is going on an apache web server localy on my network so a
few clients will stop arguing with me about speed.  A!
Thanks Mac.  WHY ARENT YOU OUT DOING INSTALLS SLACKER!  :)

Butch - thanks for the input.  I will look at those as well.

Nick - Im running an apache web server on a Debian box

thanks everyone

Bo


On 1/11/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Butch Evans wrote:
> If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from
> http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive option,
> though.
>
Just host a speedtest.net site. It only costs you bandwidth. You can try
ours at the Atlanta speedtest.net location.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Matt Liotta]

Butch Evans wrote:
If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from 
http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive option, 
though.


Just host a speedtest.net site. It only costs you bandwidth. You can try 
ours at the Atlanta speedtest.net location.


-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Bo Hamilton wrote:

Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web 
Server. Can someone on the list help me?


http://www.gambitdesign.com/bandwidthmeter/ is a decent one.  It 
tests download only.


You can run something like Qcheck (google that one) or use 
Mikrotik's bandwidth tester (there is a windows client).


If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one 
from http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/.  That's a pretty expensive 
option, though.


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RE: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Mac Dearman]

Bo,
 Are you looking for something to shape the traffic or something you can
install on a Linux/Windows machine to test bandwidth capacities across links
or to clients?

Mac 

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Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. Can
someone on the list help me?

Thanks in advance!

Bo Hamilton

NCOWireless.com
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[N White]

Bo Hamilton wrote:
Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. 
Can

someone on the list help me?

Thanks in advance!

Bo Hamilton

NCOWireless.com

What web server are you running?

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[WISPA] Earthlink turns up 15 sq mi of free WiFi in Philly today

[Ralph]

 

EarthLink Lets Free Wi-Fi Ring in the City of Brotherly Love

Philadelphia Residents & Visitors to Test New Wi-Fi Network Free-of-Charge

ATLANTA, Jan. 11 -- Ring the Liberty Bell! EarthLink (Nasdaq: ELNK) is in
the spirit of giving! Today, the ISP is kicking off a service that will give
Philadelphia residents, workers and visitors an opportunity to try on its
EarthLink Wi-Fi(SM) product free-of-charge through January 21, 2007.

Available to consumers who live, work or visit EarthLink's 15-square-mile
proof-of-concept (POC) area, which extends east of Broad Street and north of
the Vine Street Expressway (http://www.emnwifi.net/cities/philadelphia/),
EarthLink Wi-Fi offers down-and-upload speeds up to 1Mbps.

"Our goal is clear: build a state-of-the-art wireless network across
Philadelphia's 135 square miles. A key to doing this is gathering valuable
feedback and insights from users of the network as construction continues,"
said Donald Berryman, executive vice president of EarthLink and president of
the ISP's municipal networks unit. "Further, we are happy to launch this
service at this time, and hope residents and visitors enjoy Wi-Fi access,
free-of-charge."

"As we continue to work with EarthLink to build a Wi-Fi network across the
entire City of Philadelphia, feedback from our residents, workers and
visitors is key. So, why not let them try the network out?" said Greg
Goldman, CEO, Wireless Philadelphia. "We are happy that EarthLink has
launched this free service and look forward to the valuable feedback that
Philadelphians will provide."

Accessing the Free Service

To connect to EarthLink's Wi-Fi network for free, customers must use their
wireless-enabled computer to detect the network and select
"FeatherByEarthLink." Consumers will then complete a few short steps and be
connected to the Internet. For customers who have already purchased
EarthLink's monthly service, EarthLink will proactively give a credit for
this free trial period.

During the promotion and beyond, consumers within the POC area can still
sign up for EarthLink Wi-Fi(SM) for $21.95 a month with the products and
support they have come to expect from EarthLink, including eight mailboxes
and the ISP's powerful protection tools, such as spamBlocker and the
EarthLink Protection Control Center . Qualifying customers also receive a
Wi-Fi modem, which greatly increases the signal strength.

Free Doesn't Go Completely Away

EarthLink's free Wi-Fi promotion will end on January 21, 2007; however, free
Wi-Fi in Philadelphia won't go completely away. EarthLink will continue to
offer free Wi-Fi access to Philadelphia residents and visitors in designated
free access areas, including Norris Square, Olney, Love Park and the
Historic District.

Other Ongoing Services on the Network

In addition to signing up for EarthLink's monthly subscription product,
EarthLink Wi-Fi, consumers can buy access at competitive prices in one-day,
one- hour or three-day increments once the free trial is complete. Customers
can also sign up for a monthly subscription from EarthLink's wholesale
partners - People PC (www.peoplepc.com) and Pennsylvania Online
(www.paonline.com).

The Technology

Wi-Fi is short for wireless fidelity. It enables a person to connect his or
her Wi-Fi-enabled computer to the Internet, without a traditional 'wired'
connection.

EarthLink has deployed Tropos Networks' (http://www.tropos.com) MetroMesh
Wi- Fi routers on light poles throughout the 15 square-mile POC area that
enable reliable wireless data connectivity between users and the Internet.
The Tropos system forms a wireless mesh, intelligently routing data to
produce the best possible user experience. The network is operated and
optimized using Tropos Control and Tropos Insight, a suite of end-to-end
configuration, monitoring and maintenance tools. In addition, EarthLink has
deployed Motorola's MOTOwi4(TM) portfolio of products, including its
Canopy(TM) high- speed backhaul and Wi-Fi mesh network equipment.

For more information on EarthLink Wi-Fi, please go to: http://
www.earthlink.net/wifi.

For more information on EarthLink's Municipal Networks business unit, please
go to: http://www.earthlink.net/muni.

About EarthLink

"EarthLink. We revolve around you(SM)." As the nation's next generation
Internet service provider, Atlanta-based EarthLink has earned an
award-winning reputation for outstanding customer service and its suite of
online products and services. Serving over five million subscribers,
EarthLink offers what every user should expect from their Internet
experience: high-quality connectivity, minimal online intrusions and
customizable features. Whether it's dial-up, high- speed, voice, web
hosting, wireless or "EarthLink Extras" like home networking or security,
EarthLink connects people to the power and possibilities of the Internet.
Learn more about EarthLink by calling (800) EARTHLINK or visiting
EarthLink's Web site at www.EarthLink.net.

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[WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

[Bo Hamilton]

Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. Can
someone on the list help me?

Thanks in advance!

Bo Hamilton

NCOWireless.com
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Re: [WISPA] DPI Alert System

[Jon Langeler]

I was looking for the same. Someone on the list said they looked at 
Juniper and someone else and settled upon Astaro.


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:


We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would alert
us of malicious traffic...

Any ideas ?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

 


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RE: [WISPA] ot---Fw: Please note Schafer, Marlon that this is your Final Notice of Domain Extension

[Rick Herrmann]

SCAM!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:47 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] ot---Fw: Please note Schafer, Marlon that this is your
Final Notice of Domain Extension

Final NoticeAnhone seen a deal like this before?

We do NOT currently own the www.odessawa.us domain.  Looks like a
registration scam to me.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Domain Notification Central 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Please note Schafer, Marlon that this is your Final Notice of
Domain Extension


Domain Notification Central 
130 Church Street Suite 280
New York, NY 10007
Web: www.domainnotifications.org 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-270-5944   


FINAL NOTICE 

   
ATT: Schafer, Marlon

ADMINISTRATIVE CONTACT 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Address: Rt 2 Box S
Odessa 99159
Phone: (509) 982-2181
www.ODESSAWA.us  Notice Tracking Number: 761496 

Please be advised that the above noted domain name has now
become available for registration.
Consequently the possibility of a conflicting domain
registration may occur.
   



IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES LEGAL CODE

   
TITLE 15, Sec 1125. False descriptions, and dilution of
Trademarks and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) 
Be advised: Protecting a domain name registrant or trademark
owner from confusing and/or conflicting domain name registrations is not the
responsibility of the domain and trademark registration processes. In the
event of a registration of the above noted domain by a third party, the UDRP
may be applied under the following conditions.

Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. - For the
purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular
but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be
evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:

(i) circumstances indicating that the domain name registered or
acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or
otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who
is the owner of the trademark or service mark or a competitor of that
complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented
out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or
(ii) the domain name has been registered in order to prevent the
owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a
corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of
such conduct; or
(iii) the domain name has been registered primarily for the
purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or (iv) by using the
domain name, registrant has intentionally attempted to attract, for
commercial gain, Internet users to their web site or other on-line location,
by creating a likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the
source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement or your web site or
location or of a product or service of a web site or location.

In addition to remedies provided for by the URDP, section 4a
(1)(2)(3) & b (1)(2)(3)(4) existing registrants, trademark and service mark
owners are provided by DUC on domain names that are identical with new
ccTLD, TLD extentions, or domain names that are confusingly similar to their
own.


You are required to advise the Domain Notification Central of
your intent to license this name on or before the expiration of this notice.


Note: you may disregard this notice. If you disregard this
notice or fail to reply:
(a) The licensing rights of this domain name may be assigned to
any other applicant,
(b) DUC and or any ICANN accredited registrar will not be liable
for loss of domain name license, identical or confusingly similar use of
your company's domain name; or interruption of business activity or business
losses. 
   




PLEASE READ CAREFULLY 
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[WISPA] ot---Fw: Please note Schafer, Marlon that this is your Final Notice of Domain Extension

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Final NoticeAnhone seen a deal like this before?

We do NOT currently own the www.odessawa.us domain.  Looks like a registration 
scam to me.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Domain Notification Central 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Please note Schafer, Marlon that this is your Final Notice of Domain 
Extension


Domain Notification Central 
130 Church Street Suite 280
New York, NY 10007
Web: www.domainnotifications.org 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-270-5944   


FINAL NOTICE 

   
ATT: Schafer, Marlon

ADMINISTRATIVE CONTACT 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Address: Rt 2 Box S
Odessa 99159
Phone: (509) 982-2181
www.ODESSAWA.us  Notice Tracking Number: 761496 

Please be advised that the above noted domain name has now become 
available for registration.
Consequently the possibility of a conflicting domain registration 
may occur.
   



IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES LEGAL CODE

   
TITLE 15, Sec 1125. False descriptions, and dilution of Trademarks 
and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) 
Be advised: Protecting a domain name registrant or trademark owner 
from confusing and/or conflicting domain name registrations is not the 
responsibility of the domain and trademark registration processes. In the event 
of a registration of the above noted domain by a third party, the UDRP may be 
applied under the following conditions.

Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. - For the purposes 
of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without 
limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the 
registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:

(i) circumstances indicating that the domain name registered or 
acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or 
otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is 
the owner of the trademark or service mark or a competitor of that complainant, 
for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs 
directly related to the domain name; or
(ii) the domain name has been registered in order to prevent the 
owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a 
corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such 
conduct; or
(iii) the domain name has been registered primarily for the purpose 
of disrupting the business of a competitor; or (iv) by using the domain name, 
registrant has intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, 
Internet users to their web site or other on-line location, by creating a 
likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, 
sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement or your web site or location or of a 
product or service of a web site or location.

In addition to remedies provided for by the URDP, section 4a 
(1)(2)(3) & b (1)(2)(3)(4) existing registrants, trademark and service mark 
owners are provided by DUC on domain names that are identical with new ccTLD, 
TLD extentions, or domain names that are confusingly similar to their own.


You are required to advise the Domain Notification Central of your 
intent to license this name on or before the expiration of this notice. 

Note: you may disregard this notice. If you disregard this notice 
or fail to reply:
(a) The licensing rights of this domain name may be assigned to any 
other applicant,
(b) DUC and or any ICANN accredited registrar will not be liable 
for loss of domain name license, identical or confusingly similar use of your 
company's domain name; or interruption of business activity or business losses. 
   




PLEASE READ CAREFULLY 



If you fail to reply to DUC this domain may be registered by any 
third party without further notice. You must advise us of your intent to (a) 
secure this domain name or (b) to leave this domain name for Pu

[WISPA] ELN & WISPA

[Peter R.]

It is too complex.
That was the Big Picture Idea from ISPCON when EarthLink announced its 
Alliance program.

The problem is management of 700 different systems.
Most are not wi-fi, so there is CPE involved.
There are other issues.

- Peter


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


Now for the next phase that should happen.

EL should come to WISPA and work a deal with wisps nationwide.  WE 
provide access to them on OUR networks.  Then EL stops loosing dialup 
customers in Ephrata and Moses Lake.  But no need to spend the 2 
million :-)


Hmmm, maybe I'm still ahead of the game after all?  grin
marlon


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[WISPA] DPI Alert System

[Gino A. Villarini]

We Are looking to implement a Deep Packet Inspection System that would alert
us of malicious traffic...

Any ideas ?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145


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[WISPA] Wanted: Antennas, PoE Injectors, RJ45 Feedthru Adapters

[KyWiFi LLC]

Just checking to see if any of my fellow list members have any
of the following items in inventory you would like to sell?

QTY Needed Item
20  PacWireless 16dBi Panel PA24-16
20  PacWireless 24dBi Grid DC24HDPF1PF
50  PoE Injector EBU-101-01
100RJ45 Feedthru Adapter RJ45-FT

Hit me off-list ASAP, I have to place an order today for
the above items.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
"Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
===
$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation & Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned & Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
===
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[WISPA] County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

[Dawn DiPietro]

County Looks To Wireless For Western Connection

By Therese Howe
(Created: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:08 AM EST)

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Focus on the county's broadband debate has shifted westward, where 
residents will be asked to answer the question of whether they're 
willing to trade their views for high-speed Internet service.


Almost a year after supervisors scrapped a proposal to build a $320 
million fiber-optic network that would serve the entire county, the 
county is now reframing the broadband access debate to focus on wireless 
as the potential answer to increase the availability of high-speed 
Internet service, particularly in the west.


Anyone with a stake in the issue-from residents who have been unable to 
get broadband to companies offering to build towers from which wireless 
service could be provided, to the county's current wireless providers-is 
invited to provide input Jan. 23 when the board of supervisors' Economic 
Development Committee is scheduled to take up the topic.


At that meeting, county Broadband Services Manager Scott Bashore will 
provide a recap of the county's broadband efforts, leading up to why 
"wireless makes the most sense for western Loudoun," said Supervisor 
Lori Waters (R-Broad Run), who chairs the committee.


The county has set a goal of expanding broadband availability in the 
county to 90 percent from its current 86 percent, according to Bashore, 
who adds that the service is primarily offered in the east, where the 
majority of the county's population resides.


Bashore also is working on updating the county's Strategic Land Use Plan 
for Telecommunications Facilities, which was last changed in 2002.


"The original intent was for it to be good for about five years, so 
we're on track with updating it," Bashore said, adding that in the past 
four years, the market has changed with new towers being built and fewer 
national telecommunications carriers offering service.


Part of the impetus behind the county's efforts has been the upswing in 
the number of applications for towers and monopoles to provide cellular 
and high-speed Internet services.


"I thought it was important to get ahead of the game before dealing with 
these applications for individual monopoles. We need to take a look at 
the big picture ... and know where it fits in the plan rather than 
piecemeal," Waters said.


Among the proposals are two submitted by Community Wireless Structures, 
a Falls Church company that builds 100- to 200-foot structures from 
which carriers such as Verizon and Cingular can provide cellular and 
wireless Internet service.


One proposal, for a 120-foot pole south of Leesburg in Virts Corner, was 
forwarded on Tuesday to the board of supervisors' Feb. 6 meeting for 
action. Supervisors hope to see the company accede to residents' 
requests for a pole disguised as a tree rather than the company's 
proposed graduated paint monopole.


The second proposal was filed Dec. 29 and is more expansive, calling for 
six sites in northwestern Loudoun that have one or two poles of 100 or 
150 feet high. The company has leased locations at White's Ferry, 
Taylorstown, Round Hill, on Mountain Road on the east side of Short Hill 
Mountain, at the intersection of Rts. 9 and 287, and on the east side of 
Rt. 287 near Lovettsville.


"We know whenever solutions are proposed, they encounter local 
opposition," said Bob Gordon, an attorney who is a partner in the 
company, adding that the concern "all boils down to visual impact."


To provide information to the public and increase public awareness of 
the project, the company has created a Web site, 
www.getloudounonline.org, that solicits input from residents and offers 
information on upcoming public hearings. The company expects the first 
to occur in the spring before the county's planning commission, then in 
the summer before the board of supervisors.


"We want to hear from people who are still on dial-up and tired of it or 
are very frustrated because when they're driving, the cell phone blinks 
out," Gordon said. "We feel there's a silent majority, but do they care 
enough to get to the public hearings?"


As the county gears up to handle the monopole applications and prepares 
to address the broader question of expanding broadband availability, 
current wireless providers such as Marty Dougherty's Roadstar and Steve 
Acups' Lucketts.net were surprised to hear concerns about service in the 
west.


"I've been here three years, and whenever somebody identifies they want 
broadband, we get it to them," Acups said, adding that his coverage area 
includes Lovettsville and Lucketts, across into Maryland. "I'd be 
surprised if there was a business case to be made because if there is, 
we've already moved into it."


Both he and Dougherty were surprised to hear about the latest monopole 
proposal, with Dougherty saying that although he could potentially use 
one of the towers, he couldn't use all 

Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

I think it would be a good idea to at least see if they'd have any interest.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


If WISPA is serious about this someone hit me off list and I'll 
investigate

the internal EL contacts to start any negotiations.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com 


-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly


Now for the next phase that should happen.

EL should come to WISPA and work a deal with wisps nationwide.  WE provide
access to them on OUR networks.  Then EL stops loosing dialup customers in
Ephrata and Moses Lake.  But no need to spend the 2 million :-)

Hmmm, maybe I'm still ahead of the game after all?  grin
marlon

- Original Message -
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly



Yep- you are correct, sir- I have it from a very reliable source.

* EL locates on City (or whatever utility it is) poles.
* They pledge that they will allow other ISPs to wheel their service over
the network (many spare SSIDs are available)
* They foot the bill for the install (I'd say 2 million for a small city-
just estimating)
* They use gear that meshes and has intelligence so that it can optimize
and
work around interference and congestion.
* They co-produce with the city an event for the "unveiling" or "wire
cutting" and invite residents and businesses to sign up and give it a 
free

try.
* Dialup customers (hopefully) migrate to the new broadband network. Some
mobile users will use the network for whatever it is that mobile users 
do.
*   Police, Fire, Building Inspections, etc  use the free accounts (if 
any

were negotiated) and maybe additional accounts are purchased.
* POSSIBLY Google or someone else rides the network subsidizing a free
tier
of service (300 kb/s in San Francisco)
* And (if the recent posting about Vonage is correct)- EL allows other
carriers to provide service via EL's infrastructure for a set fee.
  These carriers could be  AOL, DirecTV internet, Odessa Office, OneRing
or
even "Joes Best Little Internet Provider In Texas".

It looks like it could be a win-win situation and a resource for EL, the
City, the residents and local businesses, AND the ISPs who choose to use
access to it as a means to enter the market in that town. Imagine Marlon
being able to branch out into San Francisco, New Orleans, Philadelphia,
Anaheim and any other markets available just by inking a deal with EL.

I think Municipal WiFi's definition is evolving. It doesn't have to be
*owned or funded* by a municipality, it just has to cover the
municipality.

So far, I think Marlon's described network may fit the description,
assuming
it has adequate on-street coverage.
Notice I have said "on-street", not in-building. Getting it into the
building is another project, and there are at least 2 ways to do that.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly



I learned today that I already have a few municipal networks myself! 
Much

like the Earthlink/SanFran network will be.

Privately funded, open to competitors, uses city facilites, city gets 
free

services, covers 100% of the community.  Hmmm, sounds like what I've been
doing here for half a decade now!

Ralph, stick up for me here  grin

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Re: [WISPA] i-phone

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

We'll have to wait and see.  I think that this will mostly be a niche 
product.  The ipod folks might like it most, but there are a LOT of non ipod 
devices that do a nicer job and cost far less money if the stuff in my house 
is any indication.


When the cell phone companies set the phones up to use their cell 
infrastructure OR a local wifi connection and are able to drop their costs 
because of it, I think it'll take off right nicely.  Till then, lots of 
press cause all of the press folks love Apple eh?  grin


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "chris cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [WISPA] i-phone



How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
affect your business?  Will this be positive because it drives more
customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or, will
it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular carrier's
networks?  Will they get into the wi-fi space?  Should we be preparing
for a cingular nodes on every available street level piece of vertical
realestate?



Chris

Intelliwave

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Re: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?

[Brian Rohrbacher]

That is the way I have always looked at it.  90% useless and 10% 
priceless.  But it's that 10% priceless that keeps me from going under.  
I'll keep reading


Brian

Tom DeReggi wrote:

Marty,

This list can take a lot of time, and often unclear if justifiable, 
more so if answering to stock holders questioning productivity.
However, I can't count high enough, to list all the times I gained 
valuable information from this list, that I could not get anywhere 
else easilly.
Anytime, I miss it for a week, I always come back and realize that I 
missed something of importance that I wish I had known the week before.
Just like anything else in life, to find the rare dimaonds, you got to 
dig through a lot of coal.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: "Marty Dougherty" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?



This list is often very ugly and can be a big waste of time.

Has it always been that way?

Marty

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Roadstar Internet Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
703-554-6620
www.roadstarinternet.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

Mark,

Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are 
describing.


The term "Digital Inclusion" is used in this document to describe the
goal of expanding the capabilities of computing technology worldwide to
better serve social and economic challenges of underserved communities,
both rural and urban.

If you would get off your own train and look around and maybe read a
thing or two on this subject maybe you would understand this a little
better.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly





There are numerous studies that demonstrate that towns that lack
broadband are economically deficient compared to towns with broadband.
Job growth, tax base increase, home value stability, higher per capita
income.




The economic deficiency drives the lack of broadband, not the other way
around.

You can't raise the dog to life by wagging it's tail.

I live in one of those towns, and have many of them in the region
surrounding me.   Broadband is not the issue.  The economic 
conditions are

driven ENTIRELY by other factors.Just like poor roads don't help, a

lack

of connectivity may be some hindrance, but building a superhighway to a
depressed community will simply NOT create magic.Broadband 
brought to
these places may have some neglible impact, but the lack is not  the 
cause

of economic problems, nor will provisioning it "fix" things.

Unfortunately, too many people are riding this train.Politicians 
are
holding it out as a "fix" ( BB access has never hurt a town's 
economy, of
course) for things when it isn't, and lots of businessmen are 
exploiting
that for thier own pocketbooks.   The people who are being sold this 
are

the
unwitting victims.   They need real solutions to other real 
problems, and
ignoring them and offering fashionable modern services as a fix is a 
red

herring...



+++
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Washington

email me at mark at neofast dot net
541-969-8200
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Re: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?

[George Rogato]

Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Just like anything else in life, to find the rare diamonds, you got to

dig through a lot of coal.


That was a very nice and polite way to express this.
See, there is lots of diamonds here!

--
George Rogato

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Re: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?

[Tom DeReggi]

Marty,

This list can take a lot of time, and often unclear if justifiable, more so 
if answering to stock holders questioning productivity.
However, I can't count high enough, to list all the times I gained valuable 
information from this list, that I could not get anywhere else easilly.
Anytime, I miss it for a week, I always come back and realize that I missed 
something of importance that I wish I had known the week before.
Just like anything else in life, to find the rare dimaonds, you got to dig 
through a lot of coal.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?



This list is often very ugly and can be a big waste of time.

Has it always been that way?

Marty

___
Marty Dougherty
CEO
Roadstar Internet Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
703-554-6620
www.roadstarinternet.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

Mark,

Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are describing.

The term "Digital Inclusion" is used in this document to describe the
goal of expanding the capabilities of computing technology worldwide to
better serve social and economic challenges of underserved communities,
both rural and urban.

If you would get off your own train and look around and maybe read a
thing or two on this subject maybe you would understand this a little
better.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly





There are numerous studies that demonstrate that towns that lack
broadband are economically deficient compared to towns with broadband.
Job growth, tax base increase, home value stability, higher per capita
income.




The economic deficiency drives the lack of broadband, not the other way
around.

You can't raise the dog to life by wagging it's tail.

I live in one of those towns, and have many of them in the region
surrounding me.   Broadband is not the issue.  The economic conditions are
driven ENTIRELY by other factors.Just like poor roads don't help, a

lack

of connectivity may be some hindrance, but building a superhighway to a
depressed community will simply NOT create magic.Broadband brought to
these places may have some neglible impact, but the lack is not  the cause
of economic problems, nor will provisioning it "fix" things.

Unfortunately, too many people are riding this train.Politicians are
holding it out as a "fix" ( BB access has never hurt a town's economy, of
course) for things when it isn't, and lots of businessmen are exploiting
that for thier own pocketbooks.   The people who are being sold this are

the

unwitting victims.   They need real solutions to other real problems, and
ignoring them and offering fashionable modern services as a fix is a red
herring...



+++
neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East 
Washington

email me at mark at neofast dot net
541-969-8200
Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net





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RE: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I finallyunderstand it

[Mike Bushard, Jr]

I was told they switched to VL.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] churn,double play and why WLP is key - I
finallyunderstand it

Agreed.  I bought a CPE once and it was a 30 day wait. They clearly didn't 
have funds to do production, and were looking for their clients to fund the 
production.
I didn't know Towersteam dumped Aperto. What did they switch to?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Bushard, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] churn,double play and why WLP is key - I 
finallyunderstand it


> Yup Aperto PacetWave is a good product, But now that TowerStream and
> Freewire no longer uses it, no one seems to sell it, and the Company reps
> wont call you back, it really doesn't matter how good it was. If they 
> won't
> sell you product... well the funds dry up.
>
> I have a sector of VL in the office, with 2 SU's and 10Mhz Channels 
> pulling
> 15-16Mbps down and 13-14Mbps up 4 more Mhz than Aperto and 3-4 more
> Mbps I'll take that.
>
> Mike Bushard, Jr
> Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
> 320-256-WISP (9477)
> 320-256-9478 Fax
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I
> finallyunderstand it
>
>
>> I believe it can now be said without reservation, that if you are using
>> unlicensed and wanting to implement a double play of VoIP + data, the
>> ONLY product out there that can do it in scale and with toll quality is
>> BreezeACCESS VL.
>
>
> Bzzz.. Wrong.
>
> Aperto supports toll quality voice of about 400 calls per sector, on 1/3 
> of
> the channel width that vl requires.
>
> Other than aperto though, I would agree with most of your sentiments.
>
> -
>
> Jeff
>
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[WISPA] Cisco sues Apple over iPhone

[Dawn DiPietro]

Cisco sues Apple over iPhone
9 hours, 31 minutes ago
Cisco is suing Apple for trademark infringement over the new iPhone, the 
BBC reports. Apple unveiled a multimedia communications device called 
iPhone on Tuesday, three weeks after Cisco's Linksys division introduced 
a VoIP handset called iPhone. Cisco has owned the "iphone" trademark 
since 2000. Apple has been negotiating with Cisco over a trademark 
licensing deal, but an agreement has not been reached.

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[WISPA] Korea Telecom inks EPON contract with DASAN

[Dawn DiPietro]

Korea Telecom inks EPON contract with DASAN
Posted : 10 Jan 2007

Related Content

• EPON chips roll for China telecom market (2006-12-19)
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PMC-Sierra Inc. and DASAN Networks Inc., Korea's leading supplier of 
broadband access equipment, announced that Korea Telecom (KT) has 
selected DASAN Networks for deployment of fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) 
equipment in the greater metropolitan area of Seoul, South Korea.


According to the press release, DASAN's Gbps EPON solution, based on 
PMC-Sierra's FTTH chip set using its GigaPASS architecture, is capable 
of delivering premium-grade triple-play services—voice, data and 
video—to Korea's growing FTTH subscriber base. DASAN Networks expects 
the number of subscribers under this deployment to reach 800,000 in the 
2007 calendar year.


"Korea has consistently been a leader in deploying broadband access 
technologies and they now join Japan in selecting PMC-Sierra-based EPON 
FTTH technology for widespread deployment," said Victor Vaisleib, 
general manager of the FTTH business unit at PMC-Sierra.


"Korea is committed to high-volume deployment of FTTH technology and we 
are pleased to win this contract with PMC-Sierra as they are the only 
silicon supplier with experience in deploying gigabit per second 
bandwidth FTTH in the millions of units," said Min Woo Nam, CEO, DASAN. 
"Our partnership will enable us to meet our goal of delivering 
cost-effective, reliable, and high-performance FTTH network equipment 
supporting triple-play services of video, voice, and data."


A passive optical network (PON) delivers gigabit-per-second bandwidth to 
the consumer using high-bandwidth optical fiber instead of copper 
wiring. EPON-based FTTH deployments lower the cost of network 
maintenance because the PON infrastructure requires no active 
electronics and delivers an order of magnitude greater bandwidth over 
traditional copper-based access technologies. This bandwidth enables the 
low-cost delivery of bandwidth-intensive services such as video 
services, 10-40Mbps and greater data access and integrated VoIP 
telephone services.

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[WISPA] Verizon Boosts FiOS to 50 Mbps in More States

[Dawn DiPietro]

Verizon Boosts FiOS to 50 Mbps in More States
Verizon has boosted its FiOS Internet service to speeds of up to 50 Mbps 
downstream and 5 Mbps upstream in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. This 
level of service is now available in parts of five states.


The mid-tier maximum connection speed in those markets was increased 
from 15 Mbps downstream and 2 Mbps upstream to 20/5 Mbps, and the 
top-tier service was increased from 30/5 Mbps to 50/5 Mbps. The company 
plans similar FiOS Internet speed increases this year in some of the 11 
other states where the service is available. Specifics will be announced 
at a later date.


Verizon said that more than 6 million homes and businesses in parts of 
16 states are now passed by its all-fiber network, and the company 
expects its new network to pass about 18 million premises by the end of 
2010.


Verizon had 522,000 FiOS Internet customers across 16 states at the end 
of the third quarter of 2006. The company also delivers its all-digital 
FiOS TV service over the network in parts of ten states.

http://www.verizon.com
10-Jan-07
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[WISPA] Massachusetts Bill Will Speed Cable TV Competition

[Dawn DiPietro]

Wednesday January 10, 2:29 pm ET
Legislation 'Has Consumer Written All Over It'

BOSTON, Jan. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- State Sen. Steven Panagiotakos, 
D-Lowell, and state Rep. James Vallee, D-Franklin, Wednesday (Jan. 10) 
filed legislation that would streamline the cable-TV franchising process 
in Massachusetts. The following statement should be attributed to Donna 
Cupelo, Verizon region president for Massachusetts and Rhode Island.


ADVERTISEMENT
"The legislation filed today has 'consumers' written all over it. It 
will meet the demands of Massachusetts consumers who have been waiting 
far too long to realize the benefits of cable TV choice and competition. 
Senator Panagiotakos and Representative Vallee are standing up for 
consumers who are tired of skyrocketing cable bills and want greater 
choice in service providers and programming. This bill will enable us to 
provide more Massachusetts consumers with expanded cable TV choices and 
will help grow the state's economy by spurring innovation, providing 
incentives for investment and jobs in Massachusetts."


Additional Background

Verizon Communications is building an all-fiber-optic network to offer 
phone, Internet and video services. Verizon began seeking permission to 
offer its FiOS TV service in Massachusetts two years ago and has so far 
been granted TV franchises in only 38 of the 351 Bay State communities. 
The company is currently negotiating with some 30 more communities for 
cable TV franchises.


The company also offers FiOS TV in California, Delaware, Florida, 
Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.


Verizon research indicates 87 percent of Massachusetts residents favor 
more competition and choice for video services. Independent studies have 
shown that competition in the video market brings enormous benefits to 
consumers in the form of reduced prices, better packages and improved 
service.

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