Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path
Thanks to all for the feedback! I moved the radio to the top of the customer's barn and am now looking over the power lines. When I first fired it up, it wouldn't associated, so I started trying some of the other suggestions. I lowered the maximum transmit power substantially and it actually started to work. Once it associated, I was able to see the dB level at the AP so I continued dropping the CPE power until my receive power at the AP was -70 dBm. I also reduced the MTU to 500 and the max speed to 5 Mbps. The customer hasn't used it much but my SNMP queries have all been succesful since 9:00 last night. Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Yeah, that sounds like multipath. I've seen that a few times. Your signal level is actually much too high. Try two things to test my theory. Turn the antenna backward. That should cut 15 to 20dB of signal off and get you down into the high 60 to mid 70 rssi range. Much more reasonable. Try cross polarizing this cpe. If the tower is vertical, put the cpe hpol. Also, what's the radio? (sl2 isn't one I've heard of, cpq or cpe I know of) How about the AP? I've got some very strange things happening with SB ap's and Inscape Data or the new Tranzeo CPQ radios. They will just stop talking to each other. In fact the cpe won't even see the ap until the *ap* is rebooted! It's the dangdest thing. It's almost like the cpe is being put on a mac filter list and the ap completely ignores the cpe. No cpe mac filter being used though. I've had this happen on different networks with different towns, different upstreams, different antennas, different cpe etc. The old CPE200 units didn't do this. Just the new cpq and inscape data cpe radios. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path I hate to ask this question, but I'm at my wit's end with this one. I recently installed a new customer (2.4 GHz) with a clear LOS to my tower. The distance is less than a mile and I get -56 dBm of signal strength. I've run a spectrum analyzer and it's dead silent when the radio's off.. All sounds great! A real simple install, but the radio intermittently locks up, fails to associate and most recently, simply fails to work for more then 10 - 30 seconds at a time following a POR. I've replaced radio (Tranzeo SL2) and gone to the latest version of firmware. I even contacted Tranzeo Tech Support and follwed their recommendations for timing settings. The only difference between this client and all the others on my tower is that there is a power line in the LOS path. Has anyone else found this to be a problem? It's almost like an invisible concrete wall is between the AP and the site. Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 900
What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 900
depending on noise floor, we get anywhere from 1 to 2.7 meg. Highest I've EVER seen was 2.85 mbps - 2 miles out, with -59 signal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Testing....123
Hey Jeff, Send me an email; we've got some unifinished business to attend to. Kelly --- Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Storm Trojan outbreaks
Storm Trojan reaches record proportions http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9016420source=rss_news10 Malware outbreak 'largest in almost a year' http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1251304,00.html?track=sy160 Frank Muto President FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner http://wispa.spam-virus.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 900
Sounds about right, the other thing with higher noise levels is that you will have packet loss. You can still have good throughput but you will have packet loss. Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Rick Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 900 depending on noise floor, we get anywhere from 1 to 2.7 meg. Highest I've EVER seen was 2.85 mbps - 2 miles out, with -59 signal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Multipath
Jim: The term multipath is commonly used to describe the condition wherein a sent signal arrives at an antenna through more than one path (by something in addition to or other than a non-obstructed, line-of-sight link). Microwave signals are subject to a number of degradation modes including reflection, diffraction and diffusion-if you apply those terms and physical conditions to light waves, some of the concepts may become clearer than at first blush. I like to explain multipath this way: If you have ever watched analog broadcast TV signals being delivered by an antenna, you have probably seen channels with ghosts (shadows) in the pictures. This occurs when the signal arrives at the antenna both directly and also having been bounced off one or more reflective surfaces enroute. The bouncing produces slight delays (among other propagation glitches) forcing the receiver to try to process and display the same information multiple times in each frame. While the effect of this problem is annoying in an analog video environment, it can be 'fatal' in a digital data context. Phase shifts, slightly delayed reception of the same packets, etc. can all translate as noise, and can kill the link altogether. Unfortunately there is a lot more to be concerned with in a digital microwave system than signal level alone, even though having too much or too little signal can itself be a show stopper. Signal quality is difficult to quantify without proper equipment but quality problems are no less deadly than levels problems. Hope this helps, as quick and dirty as it is. Best, Ted E.J. Hatfield Company 1-770-209-9236 - Office 1-770-209-9238 - Fax 1-770-560-0736 - Sprint 1-678-457-8411 - Cingular -Original Message- From: Jim Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Vonage wins temporary reprieve against signing up new customers
Latest New Vonage news from yesterday: Vonage CEO resigns, cost-cutting moves planned contains the interesting quotation: ... on Friday it won a temporary reprieve from a court order prohibiting it from signing up new customers ... at least until April 24 when the next hearing occurs. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/041207-vonage-ceo-resigns-cost-cutting-moves.html?t51hbcompany= Which Verizon patents did Vonage violate? The Verizon patents at issue cover technology for transferring voice calls, supporting features such as call waiting, and providing wireless handset support for VoIP customers. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/041007-verizon-patents-vonage.html?t51hbcompany= Rich -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Muni Pile On Week
I'm sure many of you will love this article: http://wifinetnews.com/archives/007545.html and many more including mine: http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2007/04/muni-pile-on-week.html Although I think that if Muni wi-fi fails, the WISP industry as a whole will take a hit. -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vonage wins temporary reprieve against signing up new customers
Turns out that VZ may not be the patent holder. Tom Keating has some interesting insight. And there is this patent: http://sabreean.com/?p=1421#more-1421 Rich Comroe wrote: Latest New Vonage news from yesterday: Vonage CEO resigns, cost-cutting moves planned contains the interesting quotation: ... on Friday it won a temporary reprieve from a court order prohibiting it from signing up new customers ... at least until April 24 when the next hearing occurs. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/041207-vonage-ceo-resigns-cost-cutting-moves.html?t51hbcompany= Which Verizon patents did Vonage violate? The Verizon patents at issue cover technology for transferring voice calls, supporting features such as call waiting, and providing wireless handset support for VoIP customers. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/041007-verizon-patents-vonage.html?t51hbcompany= Rich -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 900
... and packet loss requires the packets to be retransmitted which takes up additional timeslots which leads to a lowering of the overall throughput capacity because some of the throughput-carrying timeslots are used up by the retransmissions and therefore aren't available to transport throughput ... Chadd Thompson wrote: Sounds about right, the other thing with higher noise levels is that you will have packet loss. You can still have good throughput but you will have packet loss. Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Rick Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 900 depending on noise floor, we get anywhere from 1 to 2.7 meg. Highest I've EVER seen was 2.85 mbps - 2 miles out, with -59 signal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path
Ahhh. I tried one or two of the sl units. Just ordered some more. I like them so far. Think of multipath like a bad echo. If you've even stood in a completely empty BIG room, like a grain elevator, warehouse etc. you know that it can be hard to carry on a conversation with someone. The sound waves just keep bouncing around and around and around. OFDM likes the echos, most anything else doesn't. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Thanks to all for the feedback! I moved the radio to the top of the customer's barn and am now looking over the power lines. When I first fired it up, it wouldn't associated, so I started trying some of the other suggestions. I lowered the maximum transmit power substantially and it actually started to work. Once it associated, I was able to see the dB level at the AP so I continued dropping the CPE power until my receive power at the AP was -70 dBm. I also reduced the MTU to 500 and the max speed to 5 Mbps. The customer hasn't used it much but my SNMP queries have all been succesful since 9:00 last night. Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Yeah, that sounds like multipath. I've seen that a few times. Your signal level is actually much too high. Try two things to test my theory. Turn the antenna backward. That should cut 15 to 20dB of signal off and get you down into the high 60 to mid 70 rssi range. Much more reasonable. Try cross polarizing this cpe. If the tower is vertical, put the cpe hpol. Also, what's the radio? (sl2 isn't one I've heard of, cpq or cpe I know of) How about the AP? I've got some very strange things happening with SB ap's and Inscape Data or the new Tranzeo CPQ radios. They will just stop talking to each other. In fact the cpe won't even see the ap until the *ap* is rebooted! It's the dangdest thing. It's almost like the cpe is being put on a mac filter list and the ap completely ignores the cpe. No cpe mac filter being used though. I've had this happen on different networks with different towns, different upstreams, different antennas, different cpe etc. The old CPE200 units didn't do this. Just the new cpq and inscape data cpe radios. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path I hate to ask this question, but I'm at my wit's end with this one. I recently installed a new customer (2.4 GHz) with a clear LOS to my tower. The distance is less than a mile and I get -56 dBm of signal strength. I've run a spectrum analyzer and it's dead silent when the radio's off.. All sounds great! A real simple install, but the radio intermittently locks up, fails to associate and most recently, simply fails to work for more then 10 - 30 seconds at a time following a POR. I've replaced radio (Tranzeo SL2) and gone to the latest version of firmware. I even contacted Tranzeo Tech Support and follwed their recommendations for timing settings. The only difference between this client and all the others on my tower is that there is a power line in the LOS path. Has anyone else found this to be a problem? It's almost like an invisible concrete wall is between the AP and the site. Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path
So just use OFDM EVERYWHERE!! :-) On 4/13/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh. I tried one or two of the sl units. Just ordered some more. I like them so far. Think of multipath like a bad echo. If you've even stood in a completely empty BIG room, like a grain elevator, warehouse etc. you know that it can be hard to carry on a conversation with someone. The sound waves just keep bouncing around and around and around. OFDM likes the echos, most anything else doesn't. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Thanks to all for the feedback! I moved the radio to the top of the customer's barn and am now looking over the power lines. When I first fired it up, it wouldn't associated, so I started trying some of the other suggestions. I lowered the maximum transmit power substantially and it actually started to work. Once it associated, I was able to see the dB level at the AP so I continued dropping the CPE power until my receive power at the AP was -70 dBm. I also reduced the MTU to 500 and the max speed to 5 Mbps. The customer hasn't used it much but my SNMP queries have all been succesful since 9:00 last night. Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Yeah, that sounds like multipath. I've seen that a few times. Your signal level is actually much too high. Try two things to test my theory. Turn the antenna backward. That should cut 15 to 20dB of signal off and get you down into the high 60 to mid 70 rssi range. Much more reasonable. Try cross polarizing this cpe. If the tower is vertical, put the cpe hpol. Also, what's the radio? (sl2 isn't one I've heard of, cpq or cpe I know of) How about the AP? I've got some very strange things happening with SB ap's and Inscape Data or the new Tranzeo CPQ radios. They will just stop talking to each other. In fact the cpe won't even see the ap until the *ap* is rebooted! It's the dangdest thing. It's almost like the cpe is being put on a mac filter list and the ap completely ignores the cpe. No cpe mac filter being used though. I've had this happen on different networks with different towns, different upstreams, different antennas, different cpe etc. The old CPE200 units didn't do this. Just the new cpq and inscape data cpe radios. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path I hate to ask this question, but I'm at my wit's end with this one. I recently installed a new customer (2.4 GHz) with a clear LOS to my tower. The distance is less than a mile and I get -56 dBm of signal strength. I've run a spectrum analyzer and it's dead silent when the radio's off.. All sounds great! A real simple install, but the radio intermittently locks up, fails to associate and most recently, simply fails to work for more then 10 - 30 seconds at a time following a POR. I've replaced radio (Tranzeo SL2) and gone to the latest version of firmware. I even contacted Tranzeo Tech Support and follwed their recommendations for timing settings. The only difference between this client and all the others on my tower is that there is a power line in the LOS path. Has anyone else found this to be a problem? It's almost like an invisible concrete wall is between the AP and the site. Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Project locate
I don't know about the relativeness Blake. I don't know what the topic is. If anyone else got a link in that first email I didn't... Can anyone put this project into a 50 words or less summery? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Project locate I guess as the emails says the report on project locate, the APCO project to speed along wireless phase II, and how it will apply to the WSP community, will be available in the next two weeks. http://www.locatemodelcities.org/ Some feel that this is of great interest to the VoIP providers. Sorry if it was something that was not apropiate for the list. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Project locate and? I don't know what this is. marlon - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: [WISPA] Project locate FROM ANOTHER LIST From Stephen Wisely for Nancy Pollock, Chair of Project LOCATE. Brenda and all - the APCO Project LOCATE testing work and analysis of test results has been completed and the results report document drafted. APCO Project LOCATE and the Wireless Service Provider (WSP) community have been meeting over the past 18 months to analyze results and a supplemental test was conducted in one test area to provide more data and information. We are putting the finishing touches on it and proofing the document so it should be to the printer very shortly. When the final editing is done it will also be available on the APCO web site. No doubt you saw FCC Chairman Martin's recent remarks about the same topic. The report contains information on how the testing was conducted, the results of the testing and what it means to public safety response and interpretation of the location information received at the PSAP, and nearly 100 effective practices that should help both public safety and WSP's with effective Phase II deployments in their jurisdictions. Check back to the APCO web site in about a week or so. Any questions or comments should be sent to: Stephen J. Wisely APCO International Technical Services Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
Marlon, I am glad you are FINALLY taking some well deserved time off. Good luck to the kids and no broken bones please. ;-) Have a rum and coke for me as it will be a few months before I can have any. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 900
Yes the noise will definitely reduce the capacity on your AP. Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 1:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 900 ... and packet loss requires the packets to be retransmitted which takes up additional timeslots which leads to a lowering of the overall throughput capacity because some of the throughput-carrying timeslots are used up by the retransmissions and therefore aren't available to transport throughput ... Chadd Thompson wrote: Sounds about right, the other thing with higher noise levels is that you will have packet loss. You can still have good throughput but you will have packet loss. Chadd -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Denies Request to Use Satellite Earth Station for Terrestrial Service
http://www.tvtechnology.com/pages/s.0115/t.4857.html -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Vonage wins temporary reprieve against signing up new customers
Peter R. wrote: Turns out that VZ may not be the patent holder. Tom Keating has some interesting insight. And there is this patent: http://sabreean.com/?p=1421#more-1421 Yikes, Vonage gets whacked around from Verizon and what happens if it turns out Verizon is not the patent holder? -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
Dawn, Is that a hint that there is a new baby DiPietro on the way? Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am glad you are FINALLY taking some well deserved time off. Good luck to the kids and no broken bones please. ;-) Have a rum and coke for me as it will be a few months before I can have any. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Happy Marlon Schafer Day!
Sounds like a good time Marlon. You have worked your tail end off lately. Have some fun. Enjoy YOUR day! I hereby proclaim this day, April 13th, to be Marlon Schafer Day in the WISP world. Not that my proclamations mean anything! :-)We'll see if anyone remembers this one next year. Happy Marlon Schafer Day! Who knows, maybe this will spread! Scriv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
Scriv, There will be another DiPietro around to one day troll the lists. ;-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Dawn, Is that a hint that there is a new baby DiPietro on the way? Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am glad you are FINALLY taking some well deserved time off. Good luck to the kids and no broken bones please. ;-) Have a rum and coke for me as it will be a few months before I can have any. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Happy Marlon Schafer Day!
Scriv, He could have picked a better day, considering this is Friday the 13th. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Sounds like a good time Marlon. You have worked your tail end off lately. Have some fun. Enjoy YOUR day! I hereby proclaim this day, April 13th, to be Marlon Schafer Day in the WISP world. Not that my proclamations mean anything! :-) We'll see if anyone remembers this one next year. Happy Marlon Schafer Day! Who knows, maybe this will spread! Scriv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 900
We are seeing 2.2mb of actual throughput. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MuniFi: Build it and they still don’t come ?
interesting article Matt TY. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 6:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] MuniFi: Build it and they still don’t come? http://gigaom.com/2007/04/10/munifi-build-it-and-they-still-dont-come/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router
To All, I have had a good system. I have a 3 Mbps Bonded T1, 100 users. Right now when I run a speed test to Speakeasy, it starts at 2.6 or2.7 mbps and quickly windsdown to 15-20 kbps. This is only in the evening and from 7-9AM. I have a MikroTik in P3 900MHz, w/ 500Mb of ram. Thisonlyhappens across theMikroTik box. Any ideas, Mycustopmers are pissed. Some Are threatening to quit. PLEASE HELP, I'M A DUNCE. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
Good for you, Marlon, have a great weekend. -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 03:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff! Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router
Travis, YES, Ihave an ethernet switch on either side of the MT box. On the Inet side, 2.7 Mb/s, on the Wireless side, beforethe MT box whenit seems loaded, that iswhen itsslow. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 06:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router Hi, What do you mean this only happens across the Mikrotik box? If you by-pass the MT box, everything is fine? Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: To All, I have had a good system. I have a 3 Mbps Bonded T1, 100 users. Right now when I run a speed test to Speakeasy, it starts at 2.6 or2.7 mbps and quickly windsdown to 15-20 kbps. This is only in the evening and from 7-9AM. I have a MikroTik in P3 900MHz, w/ 500Mb of ram. Thisonlyhappens across theMikroTik box. Any ideas, Mycustopmers are pissed. Some Are threatening to quit. PLEASE HELP, I'M A DUNCE. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router
What version of MT? What do the interface stats show on the MT box when it's slow? Travis Ron Wallace wrote: Travis, YES, Ihave an ethernet switch on either side of the MT box. On the Inet side, 2.7 Mb/s, on the Wireless side, beforethe MT box whenit seems loaded, that iswhen itsslow. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 06:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router Hi, What do you mean this only happens across the Mikrotik box? If you by-pass the MT box, everything is fine? Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: To All, I have had a good system. I have a 3 Mbps Bonded T1, 100 users. Right now when I run a speed test to Speakeasy, it starts at 2.6 or2.7 mbps and quickly windsdown to 15-20 kbps. This is only in the evening and from 7-9AM. I have a MikroTik in P3 900MHz, w/ 500Mb of ram. Thisonlyhappens across theMikroTik box. Any ideas, Mycustopmers are pissed. Some Are threatening to quit. PLEASE HELP, I'M A DUNCE. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router
Hi, What do you mean this only happens across the Mikrotik box? If you by-pass the MT box, everything is fine? Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: To All, I have had a good system. I have a 3 Mbps Bonded T1, 100 users. Right now when I run a speed test to Speakeasy, it starts at 2.6 or2.7 mbps and quickly windsdown to 15-20 kbps. This is only in the evening and from 7-9AM. I have a MikroTik in P3 900MHz, w/ 500Mb of ram. Thisonlyhappens across theMikroTik box. Any ideas, Mycustopmers are pissed. Some Are threatening to quit. PLEASE HELP, I'M A DUNCE. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router
I use MT 2.9.32 currently on my Dell PowerEdge 350 (850 MHz w/ 512M Memory). I am constantly pegging 6M of throughput, and that is around 2-8% CPU utilization. I have two guesses... 1) you are creating a network loop between switches (either 2 MT boxes or a MT box and a cat5 cable between the switches). This would start out working fine, but then as utilization goes up the network is brought to it's knees. 2) There is a duplex mis-match. You can't force one side if the other side is auto-negotiating. The only way to tell this is to have a managed switch and look at the errors. From the way it sounds, I would put money on guess 1. Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Wallace Sent: Fri 4/13/2007 5:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router Travis, YES, Ihave an ethernet switch on either side of the MT box. On the Inet side, 2.7 Mb/s, on the Wireless side, beforethe MT box whenit seems loaded, that iswhen itsslow. -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 06:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router Hi, What do you mean this only happens across the Mikrotik box? If you by-pass the MT box, everything is fine? Travis Microserv Ron Wallace wrote: To All, I have had a good system. I have a 3 Mbps Bonded T1, 100 users. Right now when I run a speed test to Speakeasy, it starts at 2.6 or2.7 mbps and quickly windsdown to 15-20 kbps. This is only in the evening and from 7-9AM. I have a MikroTik in P3 900MHz, w/ 500Mb of ram. Thisonlyhappens across theMikroTik box. Any ideas, Mycustopmers are pissed. Some Are threatening to quit. PLEASE HELP, I'M A DUNCE. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ winmail.dat-- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path
LOL If only it didn't realistically need a -50somthing rssi! hehehehe marlon - Original Message - From: Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path So just use OFDM EVERYWHERE!! :-) On 4/13/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh. I tried one or two of the sl units. Just ordered some more. I like them so far. Think of multipath like a bad echo. If you've even stood in a completely empty BIG room, like a grain elevator, warehouse etc. you know that it can be hard to carry on a conversation with someone. The sound waves just keep bouncing around and around and around. OFDM likes the echos, most anything else doesn't. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Thanks to all for the feedback! I moved the radio to the top of the customer's barn and am now looking over the power lines. When I first fired it up, it wouldn't associated, so I started trying some of the other suggestions. I lowered the maximum transmit power substantially and it actually started to work. Once it associated, I was able to see the dB level at the AP so I continued dropping the CPE power until my receive power at the AP was -70 dBm. I also reduced the MTU to 500 and the max speed to 5 Mbps. The customer hasn't used it much but my SNMP queries have all been succesful since 9:00 last night. Marlon, The SL2 is one of the newest radios from Tranzeo. It's part of the CPQ family, but it's a Slim Line (much smaller in size.) Up until this install, they have gone in easy, and run great! Can you explain the multipath phenomenon? Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path Yeah, that sounds like multipath. I've seen that a few times. Your signal level is actually much too high. Try two things to test my theory. Turn the antenna backward. That should cut 15 to 20dB of signal off and get you down into the high 60 to mid 70 rssi range. Much more reasonable. Try cross polarizing this cpe. If the tower is vertical, put the cpe hpol. Also, what's the radio? (sl2 isn't one I've heard of, cpq or cpe I know of) How about the AP? I've got some very strange things happening with SB ap's and Inscape Data or the new Tranzeo CPQ radios. They will just stop talking to each other. In fact the cpe won't even see the ap until the *ap* is rebooted! It's the dangdest thing. It's almost like the cpe is being put on a mac filter list and the ap completely ignores the cpe. No cpe mac filter being used though. I've had this happen on different networks with different towns, different upstreams, different antennas, different cpe etc. The old CPE200 units didn't do this. Just the new cpq and inscape data cpe radios. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Power Lines in the LOS path I hate to ask this question, but I'm at my wit's end with this one. I recently installed a new customer (2.4 GHz) with a clear LOS to my tower. The distance is less than a mile and I get -56 dBm of signal strength. I've run a spectrum analyzer and it's dead silent when the radio's off.. All sounds great! A real simple install, but the radio intermittently locks up, fails to associate and most recently, simply fails to work for more then 10 - 30 seconds at a time following a POR. I've replaced radio (Tranzeo SL2) and gone to the latest version of firmware. I even contacted Tranzeo Tech Support and follwed their recommendations for timing settings. The only difference between this client and all the others on my tower is that there is a power line in the LOS path. Has anyone else found this to be a problem? It's almost like an invisible concrete wall is between the AP and the site. Thanks, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
A few months? Are you finally going to give the boy a little sister? marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff! Marlon, I am glad you are FINALLY taking some well deserved time off. Good luck to the kids and no broken bones please. ;-) Have a rum and coke for me as it will be a few months before I can have any. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!
wow! 14 years apart. Congrats! marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff! Scriv, There will be another DiPietro around to one day troll the lists. ;-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Dawn, Is that a hint that there is a new baby DiPietro on the way? Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am glad you are FINALLY taking some well deserved time off. Good luck to the kids and no broken bones please. ;-) Have a rum and coke for me as it will be a few months before I can have any. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Here I am, sitting at a picnic bench basking in the cold mostly sunny day. Banging out emails on my laptop via my hot spot that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. http://maps.live.com/?vendor=googlepkw=satellite%20images|617523751 I'm just east of the big gravel pile. www.stumpjumpers.org Look up the desert 100. I'll bet I'm already looking at over 500 campers. Last year there were 2500 for the Saturday poker run and 650 for the iron man 100 mile Sunday race. There are people here because I have made the internet available. It's a great time and an amazing thing for the town. There will be roughly 6000 people just outside of our town of 900. Wish you guys were here! The kids are riding, I'm drinking rum and Coke. marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
