Re: [WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support
We provide tier 1.5 support (the front desk tries to answer questions but it depends on who is working). Of the 6 motels and hotels we offer service for we probably get 2-3 calls a month total usually within normal support hours 8am to 9pm but occasionally the phone rings around 6am or 10pm. I really think it would depend on how much traffic you have through the hotels and what type of traffic it is (tourist vs business travel). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Cliff Leboeuf wrote: I have been approached by a local Hotel to provide Internet access and control for their guest. My concern is the 24-hour support for the hotspot/gateway. Does anyone have suggestions on how much support may be required and how you price such service? Do you offer 24-hour support to the hotel IT department after they are called first by the guest, or all the guest individually place support calls directly to you? - Cliff LeBoeuf - 985-879-3219 - www.cssla.com - www.triparish.net a href=http://mail.shwisp.net/spam/dspam.cgi?template=historyuser=tetherowretrain=spamsignatureID=16,465ced7325798294215066;!DSPAM:16,465ced7325798294215066!/a -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Antenna Location on Tower
Scott, I think it has to do with the tilt of the antenna in radiomobile, to verify bring the line level an see what you get. I have seen this in Radiomobile, and i also have not found a way to add tilt to the antenna either. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Scott Reed wrote: Has anyone else had to deal with this? Scott Reed wrote: I have several POPs with multiple APs on them. All but one have decent backhaul and I knew that when I put it up. I am getting ready to put up another tower and have run into something I am not sure how to figure out. I have used RadioMobile to determine backhaul links and customer links and I am pretty sure I have it setup correctly and I am getting good data. My problem is that I don't know where on the tower to put the backhaul antenna. Here is what I have from RadioMobile: Antenna Height RSSI 65 58.3 70 58.4 75 63.3 80 64.6 85 58.5 90 58.3 95 64.6 100 58.5 105 58.9 110 58.2 115 58.9 116 59.5 117 60.8 118 63.3 119 66.8 120 72.1 121 73.5 122 67.9 123 64 124 61.3 125 59.6 130 58.3 135 58.7 136 59.2 137 60.2 138 62.5 139 65.9 140 71.2 141 73.9 142 68.1 143 63.9 144 61.1 145 59.5 146 58.9 147 58.6 148 58.4 149 58.3 150 58.2 So, I should put the antenna at 65', 110', 130' or 150'. Well, the 150 is out, the tower is only 140', but the general question still remains. When faced with this kind of numbers, do you normally have the climber start at 65' and work up in 3' increments logging the RSSI as you work to the top? Then put the antenna at the best signal, or what do you do? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Ethernet problems
What if you plug directly (or as direct as you can) into the Mikrotik CPE with your laptop?? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet problems I installed a customer in October and started having Ethernet problems in March. I have an approximately 200' Ethernet run from the top of a TV tower, to the house, and through the basement. I installed a Belden? outdoor Cat5E cable, a Mohawk outdoor gel cable, a rope for future cable additions, and an RG6 quad shield TV cable in a conduit. Numerous times I cut off slack on both ends of the original cable (the Belden). All that fixed the problem was turning off auto negotiation and setting it to 100 HDX. A few weeks later the problems returned, and I set it to 10 HDX. Now, maybe 6 weeks later the problem is back. I switched to the Mohawk cable. I put on a different PoE injector and a different ECS cable (PacWireless cable that provides an Ethernet jack on the outside of the enclosure and has a 1' pigtail that plugs into the Mikrotik board. Problem remains. The Mikrotik is getting power as it associates with my tower and the two clients off an AP installed on the same board work just fine. I tried different patch cables from the injectors to the laptop\desktop. I really don't want to pull 200' of cable only to have it not work again. Does anyone have a good Ethernet tester I can borrow\rent? Not one that just says if the pins make it (I had one of those and it said the cable was fine), but one that is a bit more advanced. From my understanding, these are $800 - $5k units. Someone close to Northern Illinois would be best. I'm out of ideas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet problems
The last time I had problems, it seemed to be okay when I skipped the long cable. I haven't tried that this time around. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:31 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet problems What if you plug directly (or as direct as you can) into the Mikrotik CPE with your laptop?? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet problems I installed a customer in October and started having Ethernet problems in March. I have an approximately 200' Ethernet run from the top of a TV tower, to the house, and through the basement. I installed a Belden? outdoor Cat5E cable, a Mohawk outdoor gel cable, a rope for future cable additions, and an RG6 quad shield TV cable in a conduit. Numerous times I cut off slack on both ends of the original cable (the Belden). All that fixed the problem was turning off auto negotiation and setting it to 100 HDX. A few weeks later the problems returned, and I set it to 10 HDX. Now, maybe 6 weeks later the problem is back. I switched to the Mohawk cable. I put on a different PoE injector and a different ECS cable (PacWireless cable that provides an Ethernet jack on the outside of the enclosure and has a 1' pigtail that plugs into the Mikrotik board. Problem remains. The Mikrotik is getting power as it associates with my tower and the two clients off an AP installed on the same board work just fine. I tried different patch cables from the injectors to the laptop\desktop. I really don't want to pull 200' of cable only to have it not work again. Does anyone have a good Ethernet tester I can borrow\rent? Not one that just says if the pins make it (I had one of those and it said the cable was fine), but one that is a bit more advanced. From my understanding, these are $800 - $5k units. Someone close to Northern Illinois would be best. I'm out of ideas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support
Are you saying not many hookers or parties use the hotspot? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support We provide tier 1.5 support (the front desk tries to answer questions but it depends on who is working). Of the 6 motels and hotels we offer service for we probably get 2-3 calls a month total usually within normal support hours 8am to 9pm but occasionally the phone rings around 6am or 10pm. I really think it would depend on how much traffic you have through the hotels and what type of traffic it is (tourist vs business travel). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Cliff Leboeuf wrote: I have been approached by a local Hotel to provide Internet access and control for their guest. My concern is the 24-hour support for the hotspot/gateway. Does anyone have suggestions on how much support may be required and how you price such service? Do you offer 24-hour support to the hotel IT department after they are called first by the guest, or all the guest individually place support calls directly to you? - Cliff LeBoeuf - 985-879-3219 - www.cssla.com - www.triparish.net a href=http://mail.shwisp.net/spam/dspam.cgi?template=historyuser=tetherowretrain=spamsignatureID=16,465ced7325798294215066;!DSPAM:16,465ced7325798294215066!/a -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection
Jim, I too have the pleasure of enjoying the wonderful Kansas Storms... Our main tower had been hit three times (in a row, in one season) while i have been using it for wireless, and I got fed up with changing out the equipment each time. I have found that on most of the towers, if it has a good ground, and you leave some of the tower, or a pole up higher than your equipment, there are no Lightning problems. On our main tower however, it was not grounded well. So in doing a little research I came across this kit from glen martin (I am sure there are others out there too) http://www.glenmartin.com/catalog/lightning.htm It came with everything but the wire to run down the side of the tower, which i was able to purchase from our local electric dept. I installed it, as well as drove a rod at each leg (it was a self supporting tower with three legs) and grounded each as well. since this was installed, I have not had a single problem through two seasons of storms now. I also installed a surge protection system , in my equipment room, that is connected to a ground bar that is tied to the tower as well. (an electrician told me to make sure your have your grounds tied together. Something about ground differentials, or equipment from two different grounding sources. I cannot remember the exact reason) In the past it seemed I was losing the equipment (or more specifically the mini-pci cards) from at least one tower everytime it decided to cloud over, due to another problem as well. Come to find out most of that problem was related to static build up on the antennas. (in fact every Omni directional antenna i had nearly, popped a card each time it clouded over) I found a solution to that as well, which you can read about here ( http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=9734hilit= Topic:Wireless card recieve blows issue, in Wireless Networking Category ) on the Mikrotik Forums. Again Since implementing it, Havent lost a single card. Hope this all helps. Jaron Parsons Sumner Communications Jim Stout wrote: Spring arrived in Kansas City and so did the thunder storms. I took a lightning stike on my tower and lost both APs, the POEs, two switches and a Mikrotik router. The Antennas survived but it looks like I lost a little gain. My question is how do I protect against this happening again? Are lightning rods effective? Any thoughts will be appreciated. I don't want to have to replace everything again. TIA, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support
Cliff, The individual people in the hotel will be calling you - - not the hotel staff. The hotels we carry on this service do their own support and I couldn't be happier! The first hotel we hooked up tried passing on their support calls to us for a short time and there were some real idiots - - almost as bad as some of my regulars :-) If you take on support for these hotels - - get the pricing structure from providers that do this for a living or even outsource that to them. I know that when I get hung up answering tech support calls here - - - - I feel like either murdering someone or beating my dog! Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Rayville, La. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief) www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales) 318.728.8600 318.728.9600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel HotSpot/Gateway Support I have been approached by a local Hotel to provide Internet access and control for their guest. My concern is the 24-hour support for the hotspot/gateway. Does anyone have suggestions on how much support may be required and how you price such service? Do you offer 24-hour support to the hotel IT department after they are called first by the guest, or all the guest individually place support calls directly to you? - Cliff LeBoeuf - 985-879-3219 - www.cssla.com - www.triparish.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_%28electricity%29 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaron Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection Jim, I too have the pleasure of enjoying the wonderful Kansas Storms... Our main tower had been hit three times (in a row, in one season) while i have been using it for wireless, and I got fed up with changing out the equipment each time. I have found that on most of the towers, if it has a good ground, and you leave some of the tower, or a pole up higher than your equipment, there are no Lightning problems. On our main tower however, it was not grounded well. So in doing a little research I came across this kit from glen martin (I am sure there are others out there too) http://www.glenmartin.com/catalog/lightning.htm It came with everything but the wire to run down the side of the tower, which i was able to purchase from our local electric dept. I installed it, as well as drove a rod at each leg (it was a self supporting tower with three legs) and grounded each as well. since this was installed, I have not had a single problem through two seasons of storms now. I also installed a surge protection system , in my equipment room, that is connected to a ground bar that is tied to the tower as well. (an electrician told me to make sure your have your grounds tied together. Something about ground differentials, or equipment from two different grounding sources. I cannot remember the exact reason) In the past it seemed I was losing the equipment (or more specifically the mini-pci cards) from at least one tower everytime it decided to cloud over, due to another problem as well. Come to find out most of that problem was related to static build up on the antennas. (in fact every Omni directional antenna i had nearly, popped a card each time it clouded over) I found a solution to that as well, which you can read about here ( http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=9734hilit= Topic:Wireless card recieve blows issue, in Wireless Networking Category ) on the Mikrotik Forums. Again Since implementing it, Havent lost a single card. Hope this all helps. Jaron Parsons Sumner Communications Jim Stout wrote: Spring arrived in Kansas City and so did the thunder storms. I took a lightning stike on my tower and lost both APs, the POEs, two switches and a Mikrotik router. The Antennas survived but it looks like I lost a little gain. My question is how do I protect against this happening again? Are lightning rods effective? Any thoughts will be appreciated. I don't want to have to replace everything again. TIA, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet problems
I was reading this thread, and I had a thought (scary thing!, LOL), it it possible that inside the conduit, there is a rough edge (maybe the edge of a junction box if you are not using LBE's?) that scraped off the outside covering and you now have exposed wires that you can not see?. Perhaps the wires are exposed somewhere and a little bit of moisture (even humidity) got inside the conduit and is causing the errors?. It would really be a long shot, as this rough edge would have to scrape off the shielding from both CAT5 cables, but I have seen stranger things. I have also had problems in the past from bad ballasts in flourescent lights. Even if they are a few feet away, they make all sorts of strange things happen. Another place to look is bad power supplies. I installed a radio at a customers home one time that had a power supply. It made noise thru every computer speaker. As soon as you unplugged the power supply, the noise went away. It also would allow the radio to boot up, but the ethernet was just screwy, sometimes passing packets, sometimes not. Good luck in your search!. Tim Russ Kreigh wrote: What if you plug directly (or as direct as you can) into the Mikrotik CPE with your laptop?? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet problems I installed a customer in October and started having Ethernet problems in March. I have an approximately 200' Ethernet run from the top of a TV tower, to the house, and through the basement. I installed a Belden? outdoor Cat5E cable, a Mohawk outdoor gel cable, a rope for future cable additions, and an RG6 quad shield TV cable in a conduit. Numerous times I cut off slack on both ends of the original cable (the Belden). All that fixed the problem was turning off auto negotiation and setting it to 100 HDX. A few weeks later the problems returned, and I set it to 10 HDX. Now, maybe 6 weeks later the problem is back. I switched to the Mohawk cable. I put on a different PoE injector and a different ECS cable (PacWireless cable that provides an Ethernet jack on the outside of the enclosure and has a 1' pigtail that plugs into the Mikrotik board. Problem remains. The Mikrotik is getting power as it associates with my tower and the two clients off an AP installed on the same board work just fine. I tried different patch cables from the injectors to the laptop\desktop. I really don't want to pull 200' of cable only to have it not work again. Does anyone have a good Ethernet tester I can borrow\rent? Not one that just says if the pins make it (I had one of those and it said the cable was fine), but one that is a bit more advanced. From my understanding, these are $800 - $5k units. Someone close to Northern Illinois would be best. I'm out of ideas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Provide Internet ?
Can anyone provide wireless in the following states and coordinates? NC 34° 43 19 X 78° 47 14 OK 36° 39 36 X 101° 23 40 WI 44° 54 20 X 92° 22 30 WA 46° 12 ?? X 119° 57 ?? IA 41° 56 ?? X 94° 24 ?? Contact me offlist. These are some remote locations so please give me a pretty good idea. Each site will have a rohn25g tower. Not sure on height, but not overly tall. Justin -- Life is unfair, but root password helps --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTIN.NET Access - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing CCNA - CCNT - COMTRAIN Certified - ACSA WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.findawisp.com TEL:765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHz WiMAX Mini-PCI Design
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=259237 Mini-PCI Design for the Unlicensed 5.8 GHz Band Opens the Way for Fast Deployment of WiMAX Solutions Worldwide DORVAL, QUEBEC -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 30, 2007 -- Wavesat (www.wavesat.com), a leading designer of WiMAX 802.16d-2004 .16e-2005 solutions announced today the immediate availability of its 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI reference design. Wavesat's 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is optimized to allow equipment manufacturers worldwide to rapidly bring WiMAX equipment to market. The reference design in the form of an extended length Mini-PCI card facilitates system designs by providing a plug-and-play complete solution for the lower layer air interface and time critical low-level MAC functionality. It allows equipment manufacturers to tailor the motherboard providing the higher layer application processor and peripherals according to their specific needs, hence providing greater flexibility and reducing development efforts. The 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is a development platform supporting ODMs efforts to design WiMAX-compliant wireless devices for the 5.8 GHz unlicensed band using Wavesat's Evolutive WiMAX™ DM256 chip. Based on the WiMAX Forum profile, the 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design greatly simplifies the overall WiMAX CPE design, enabling customers to bring WiMAX solutions to market faster and more cost-efficiently, while allowing for flexibility to address further changes driven by the WiMAX emerging market dynamics, application diversity and customer profiles. Wavesat's WiMAX Mini-PCI reference designs offer OEMs and ODMs the unique opportunity to quickly develop a low BOM subscriber unit with minimum NRE investment and risk by using existing broadband CPE platforms, commented Vijay Dube, VP Marketing and Business Development for Wavesat. Because 5.8 GHz is an unlicensed frequency band, it can be rapidly deployed by Wireless Internet Service Providers (WiSPs) around the world and especially in North America, where it is the only WiMAX Forum profile currently deployable. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Nice CPE
http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Very nice - except it doesn't support Mikrotik which is a huge downfall. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... I assume they will be releasing a PS5 soon... Nice thing is the software selectable polarity ... Maybe even Trango can OEM from Ubiquity Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Very nice - except it doesn't support Mikrotik which is a huge downfall. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Their the RB100 and RB500 lines are MIPS, though I hear that not all MIPS are compatible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... I assume they will be releasing a PS5 soon... Nice thing is the software selectable polarity ... Maybe even Trango can OEM from Ubiquity Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Very nice - except it doesn't support Mikrotik which is a huge downfall. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Gino Villarini wrote: Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... Mikrotik seems to be going the Apple route, where their software only works on their hardware, and vice versa. I'll not comment on whether that's good or bad. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Yeah my bad ... maybe the PS2 IS mikrotik compatible Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Their the RB100 and RB500 lines are MIPS, though I hear that not all MIPS are compatible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... I assume they will be releasing a PS5 soon... Nice thing is the software selectable polarity ... Maybe even Trango can OEM from Ubiquity Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Very nice - except it doesn't support Mikrotik which is a huge downfall. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
They support x86, which is fairly ubiquitous. Their hardware also accepts a Linux installation (they provide a tuned Debian kernel), which is fairly ubiquitous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Gino Villarini wrote: Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... Mikrotik seems to be going the Apple route, where their software only works on their hardware, and vice versa. I'll not comment on whether that's good or bad. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Any clue on a cost for these? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
The MIPS version of MT will not run on these. They would need to patch and recompile for this SoC. I would love to see a atheros SoC version of MT. Maybe if enough people ask MT to do the support they will, I know I would love to have MT on my atheros units. On 5/30/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They support x86, which is fairly ubiquitous. Their hardware also accepts a Linux installation (they provide a tuned Debian kernel), which is fairly ubiquitous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Gino Villarini wrote: Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... Mikrotik seems to be going the Apple route, where their software only works on their hardware, and vice versa. I'll not comment on whether that's good or bad. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
MSRP $ 159 - Original Message - From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Any clue on a cost for these? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Nice CPE http://www.ubnt.com/ps2.php4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Then we could actually run Mikrotik on an FCC approved platform! These folks carry a modular unit type acceptance. I want to look up their number and find out more. I get to Milpitas often, so maybe I will stop in and visit them. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE The MIPS version of MT will not run on these. They would need to patch and recompile for this SoC. I would love to see a atheros SoC version of MT. Maybe if enough people ask MT to do the support they will, I know I would love to have MT on my atheros units. On 5/30/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They support x86, which is fairly ubiquitous. Their hardware also accepts a Linux installation (they provide a tuned Debian kernel), which is fairly ubiquitous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Gino Villarini wrote: Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... Mikrotik seems to be going the Apple route, where their software only works on their hardware, and vice versa. I'll not comment on whether that's good or bad. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHz WiMAX Mini-PCI Design
I suppose this may be a dumb question, but now that it looks like WiMAX will be within reach? maybe? What does this give the WISP? More power? better throughput? Different modulation? I haven't followed WiMAX closely enough. Zack On 5/30/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=259237 Mini-PCI Design for the Unlicensed 5.8 GHz Band Opens the Way for Fast Deployment of WiMAX Solutions Worldwide DORVAL, QUEBEC -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 30, 2007 -- Wavesat (www.wavesat.com), a leading designer of WiMAX 802.16d-2004 .16e-2005 solutions announced today the immediate availability of its 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI reference design. Wavesat's 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is optimized to allow equipment manufacturers worldwide to rapidly bring WiMAX equipment to market. snip -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Mikrotik has said on their forum that they don't plan to support any other platforms than what they already do. Too much extra support work as well as RD expense. Travis Microserv Jeromie Reeves wrote: The MIPS version of MT will not run on these. They would need to patch and recompile for this SoC. I would love to see a atheros SoC version of MT. Maybe if enough people ask MT to do the support they will, I know I would love to have MT on my atheros units. On 5/30/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They support x86, which is fairly ubiquitous. Their hardware also accepts a Linux installation (they provide a tuned Debian kernel), which is fairly ubiquitous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Gino Villarini wrote: Well, that's mikrotik fault ... not supporting MIPS architecture...which is the standard on Atheros based SOC... Mikrotik seems to be going the Apple route, where their software only works on their hardware, and vice versa. I'll not comment on whether that's good or bad. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHz WiMAX Mini-PCI Design
In theory it gives you more distance and better throughput per Hz. But how it will handle the interference is the unknown at this point. Everything is a trade off. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Zack Kneisley wrote: I suppose this may be a dumb question, but now that it looks like WiMAX will be within reach? maybe? What does this give the WISP? More power? better throughput? Different modulation? I haven't followed WiMAX closely enough. Zack On 5/30/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=259237 Mini-PCI Design for the Unlicensed 5.8 GHz Band Opens the Way for Fast Deployment of WiMAX Solutions Worldwide DORVAL, QUEBEC -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 30, 2007 -- Wavesat (www.wavesat.com), a leading designer of WiMAX 802.16d-2004 .16e-2005 solutions announced today the immediate availability of its 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI reference design. Wavesat's 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is optimized to allow equipment manufacturers worldwide to rapidly bring WiMAX equipment to market. snip -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Ralph wrote: Then we could actually run Mikrotik on an FCC approved platform! I thought certification had to be acquired for a complete package, hardware AND software. Have I misunderstood? I haven't (yet) found specifications on the transmit power of the AR2316 single-chip-AP, but most Atheros gear can be configured to run at up to 24dBm or so. Meanwhile, according to Ubiquiti's spec sheet, the antenna in this unit has 18dBm gain. If you set the software to use the maximum power the card supports, you're probably over the legal EIRP limit. Wouldn't a hardware/software combination that will let you exceed power limits (because it doesn't know what kind of antenna you're using, so it can't even pop up a warning) be a Bad Thing? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHz WiMAX Mini-PCI Design
Theory - Relativity or Quantum Physics? :-) On 5/30/07, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In theory it gives you more distance and better throughput per Hz. But how it will handle the interference is the unknown at this point. Everything is a trade off. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Zack Kneisley wrote: I suppose this may be a dumb question, but now that it looks like WiMAX will be within reach? maybe? What does this give the WISP? More power? better throughput? Different modulation? I haven't followed WiMAX closely enough. Zack On 5/30/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=259237 Mini-PCI Design for the Unlicensed 5.8 GHz Band Opens the Way for Fast Deployment of WiMAX Solutions Worldwide DORVAL, QUEBEC -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 30, 2007 -- Wavesat (www.wavesat.com), a leading designer of WiMAX 802.16d-2004 .16e-2005 solutions announced today the immediate availability of its 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI reference design. Wavesat's 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is optimized to allow equipment manufacturers worldwide to rapidly bring WiMAX equipment to market. snip -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo not functioning properly
Anybody have issues with Tranzeo 5.8 APs? We have had about 5 die out of 40. They don't die completely, but don't pass all traffic. The wireless side seems to function good, but the Ethernet side is having problems. Anybody having similar issues? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Joost and your network.
I do agree with this thinking, I have envisioned tiered pricing like this, the problem mainly arises when you get customers that don't want options, they want an all inclusive unlimited service that the telcos cablecos offer (until you read their TOS. I have seen pricing for services before though. Can someone provide links to some service based pricing? Zack It might be wise to start thinking about selling connectivity by service - email only, website only, heavy user, etc. Start packaging with built-in expectations. Regards, Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik Visio Icons
Anyone seen any VISIO icons for Mikrotik? I am working on some network diagrams for various people and would like to have some mikrotik icons if possible. Thanks, Justin -- List your WISP on www.findawisp.com. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTIN.NET WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
It does. That's why I said I wanted to look them up and see what they are up to with claiming certification. I saw no registration # in the datasheet I looked at. They may simply be pulling a Mikrotik and thinking that we will read completely certified product just because they used an FCC certified radio module. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Ralph wrote: Then we could actually run Mikrotik on an FCC approved platform! I thought certification had to be acquired for a complete package, hardware AND software. Have I misunderstood? I haven't (yet) found specifications on the transmit power of the AR2316 single-chip-AP, but most Atheros gear can be configured to run at up to 24dBm or so. Meanwhile, according to Ubiquiti's spec sheet, the antenna in this unit has 18dBm gain. If you set the software to use the maximum power the card supports, you're probably over the legal EIRP limit. Wouldn't a hardware/software combination that will let you exceed power limits (because it doesn't know what kind of antenna you're using, so it can't even pop up a warning) be a Bad Thing? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Come to think of it, in trying to think of a legal self contained outdoor 802.11x CPE to use, only Tranzeo and Deliberant come to mind. Am I missing someone? I have seen some Senao/Engenius but havent researched whether they achieved certification. We should make a list of legal equipment to use and post it someplace- maybe in an FCC cert. FAQ. I'd also like to see more on this mesh software thay are talking about. We have a location that is suited for mesh, but haven't heard much feedback on the Wili box mesh from Deliberant or the one from Tranzeo. All the big boys (Tropos, Moto, Belair, Strix, etc) are way too overpriced for the small WISP. The little Meraki units seem promising but are wimpy in power and you have to use their backend. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
On 5/30/07, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to see more on this mesh software thay are talking about. We have a location that is suited for mesh, but haven't heard much feedback on the Wili box mesh from Deliberant or the one from Tranzeo. All the big boys (Tropos, Moto, Belair, Strix, etc) are way too overpriced for the small WISP. The little Meraki units seem promising but are wimpy in power and you have to use their backend. The Meraki units are wimpy (higher powered versions may yet come), but you don't have to use their dashboard - you can flash them with DD-WRT or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Visio Icons
If you find one, let me know! On 5/30/07, Justin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone seen any VISIO icons for Mikrotik? I am working on some network diagrams for various people and would like to have some mikrotik icons if possible. Thanks, Justin -- List your WISP on www.findawisp.com. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTIN.NET WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
If you put DDWRT on them, don't they lose the ability to mesh? Not to mention they then probably lose Part 15 certification, which should be important to all WISPs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE On 5/30/07, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to see more on this mesh software thay are talking about. We have a location that is suited for mesh, but haven't heard much feedback on the Wili box mesh from Deliberant or the one from Tranzeo. All the big boys (Tropos, Moto, Belair, Strix, etc) are way too overpriced for the small WISP. The little Meraki units seem promising but are wimpy in power and you have to use their backend. The Meraki units are wimpy (higher powered versions may yet come), but you don't have to use their dashboard - you can flash them with DD-WRT or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] QuickMounts
Anyone ever use these ? http://www.towerstructures.com/catalog/rooftop_products/qwikmounts.html JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Dylan, How do you go about doing that? Using their back end is our biggest complaint, but we can see a use for them if we can get around their back end. Have you done this? Do you use the advertised cable from them? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE On 5/30/07, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to see more on this mesh software thay are talking about. We have a location that is suited for mesh, but haven't heard much feedback on the Wili box mesh from Deliberant or the one from Tranzeo. All the big boys (Tropos, Moto, Belair, Strix, etc) are way too overpriced for the small WISP. The little Meraki units seem promising but are wimpy in power and you have to use their backend. The Meraki units are wimpy (higher powered versions may yet come), but you don't have to use their dashboard - you can flash them with DD-WRT or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
No, I haven't done this myself. But google e.g. dd-wrt meraki. Of course, mesh features being part of the firmware and not the radio itself, you will lose those in flashing to dd-wrt or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Man described as a top spammer arrested
SEATTLE - A 27-year-old man described as one of the world's most prolific spammers was arrested Wednesday, and federal authorities said computer users across the Web could notice a decrease in the amount of junk e-mail. Robert Alan Soloway is accused of using networks of compromised zombie computers to send out millions upon millions of spam e-mails. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070531/ap_on_hi_te/spam_arrest;_ylt=Ap5pTizGLm70UMCONge8NNtk24cA -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHzWiMAX Mini-PCI Design
Yes cool. But does it have Software OS/Drivers yet? Such as AP OS/Drivers? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wavesat Announces Availability of World's First 5.8 GHzWiMAX Mini-PCI Design Theory - Relativity or Quantum Physics? :-) On 5/30/07, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In theory it gives you more distance and better throughput per Hz. But how it will handle the interference is the unknown at this point. Everything is a trade off. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Zack Kneisley wrote: I suppose this may be a dumb question, but now that it looks like WiMAX will be within reach? maybe? What does this give the WISP? More power? better throughput? Different modulation? I haven't followed WiMAX closely enough. Zack On 5/30/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=259237 Mini-PCI Design for the Unlicensed 5.8 GHz Band Opens the Way for Fast Deployment of WiMAX Solutions Worldwide DORVAL, QUEBEC -- (MARKET WIRE) -- May 30, 2007 -- Wavesat (www.wavesat.com), a leading designer of WiMAX 802.16d-2004 .16e-2005 solutions announced today the immediate availability of its 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI reference design. Wavesat's 5.8 GHz Mini-PCI design is optimized to allow equipment manufacturers worldwide to rapidly bring WiMAX equipment to market. snip -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013
Worldnet founder: Copper landlines gone by 2013 “By 2012 [there will be] no more reason to use our landlines--so we won’t,” Evslin wrote. “I don’t think the copper plant will last past 2012. The problem is the cost of maintaining and operating it when it has very few subscribers. Obviously [it’s] a huge problem for ATT and Verizon. And an important social issue as well.” http://telephonyonline.com/home/news/copper_landlines_gone_052507/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE
So then all you have is a 60 mW AP that is not legal to use. If we wanted to do that, we could buy Linksys WRT54G for $24.99 and get the same features plus more power. Its too bad that Meraki is missing our market, but remember that their original intent is to circumvent us (and wired ISPs too) by facilitating a mesh that they control made up of people sharing connections that they get from us! We should probably be supporting people like Tranzeo and Deliberant, as they try to give us a reasonably priced mesh. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE No, I haven't done this myself. But google e.g. dd-wrt meraki. Of course, mesh features being part of the firmware and not the radio itself, you will lose those in flashing to dd-wrt or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Shannon's Law
http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_shannons_specter/ Great little article about the fact that physics will always trump marketing. (Or you can only push so much down a pipe). -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
I saw Deliberent's 533Mhz product at ISPCON. Its a pretty sweet OEM product. Finally an outdoor enclosure with large enough space inside to work with, but not to large. Pretty reasonably priced for a certified product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nice CPE So then all you have is a 60 mW AP that is not legal to use. If we wanted to do that, we could buy Linksys WRT54G for $24.99 and get the same features plus more power. Its too bad that Meraki is missing our market, but remember that their original intent is to circumvent us (and wired ISPs too) by facilitating a mesh that they control made up of people sharing connections that they get from us! We should probably be supporting people like Tranzeo and Deliberant, as they try to give us a reasonably priced mesh. Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE No, I haven't done this myself. But google e.g. dd-wrt meraki. Of course, mesh features being part of the firmware and not the radio itself, you will lose those in flashing to dd-wrt or whatever. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ISPCON
I was wondering if anyone had a WOW from the show. (Besides the side trip to Daytona, that is :) A copy of my slides can be seen at slideshare.net/4isps/. (We didn't use the slides. We just banged out 60+ nuggets of business wisdom in the time slot. One of my clients sent me the list; you can read it here: http://marketingideaguy.com/news/50-ideas-in-50-minutes-ispcon) Next week, I will have a conference call to recap these and ISPCON. Email me to join in. Start planning for ISPCON in San Jose on October 16-18. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti XR2s
Anyone getting the XR2's to work well? With our initial StarOS V3 XR2 Beta Test, I found that a power setting of 10 would allow the card to associate, but a power setting of 11 or higher would prevent association. However, an SR2 inserted in place of, in the same system/link, out performed the XR2, with higher Quality. The SR2 also would associate and function at any allowable Power setting in StarOSV3. We tried using both a WRAP board, and WAR2. Both 18V in WRAP and 18V and 24V regulated power in WAR, no difference. We also tried hard sellecting various Link Distance settings. (1,2,3 miles, with 2 miles working best for the 1 mile test link) Note this was in what appeared to be a high noise area, with significant Tree Leaves obstruction. Note, the ground of the XR2 was screwed to case. I'm wondering if the XR2 is just noisier, or if STAR OS just doesn't have appropriate drivers yet for it? Other... any experience? Disclaimer: This was strictly for capabilty testing purposes. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE
Cisco AP1242's are certified, and can put out 20 dB. They can be used with the Cisco 21 dB dish. In the config menu, there is a place to tell it what kind of an antenna is attached. John David E. Smith wrote: Ralph wrote: Then we could actually run Mikrotik on an FCC approved platform! I thought certification had to be acquired for a complete package, hardware AND software. Have I misunderstood? I haven't (yet) found specifications on the transmit power of the AR2316 single-chip-AP, but most Atheros gear can be configured to run at up to 24dBm or so. Meanwhile, according to Ubiquiti's spec sheet, the antenna in this unit has 18dBm gain. If you set the software to use the maximum power the card supports, you're probably over the legal EIRP limit. Wouldn't a hardware/software combination that will let you exceed power limits (because it doesn't know what kind of antenna you're using, so it can't even pop up a warning) be a Bad Thing? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Shannon's Law
It sounds like when the first 14.4 modem came out and they said that's as fast as it can ever go... and then came the 28.8 modem and then the 33.6 modem and then the 56k modem... or even with fiber how they could only push so much down a fiber strand... then they figured out how to use different colors and get 100x more bandwidth on the same fiber... :) Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_shannons_specter/ Great little article about the fact that physics will always trump marketing. (Or you can only push so much down a pipe). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Man described as a top spammer arrested
I wonder if execution is an option. John George Rogato wrote: SEATTLE - A 27-year-old man described as one of the world's most prolific spammers was arrested Wednesday, and federal authorities said computer users across the Web could notice a decrease in the amount of junk e-mail. Robert Alan Soloway is accused of using networks of compromised zombie computers to send out millions upon millions of spam e-mails. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070531/ap_on_hi_te/spam_arrest;_ylt=Ap5pTizGLm70UMCONge8NNtk24cA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
