Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK Giga

[Tom DeReggi]

Its important to remember... There are two relevent prices to consider

Entry Cost and Full Speed Cost.

Trango appears to have a MUCH better price point, considering upgraded to 
full speed.
Although, I'm having difficulty getting confirmation on Dragonwave's Full 
capacity Best price, to be certain.


Its also important to understand that there is a undisputed reliabilty 
advantage of having a combo indoor/outdoor model, regardless of whether an 
Outdoor model is mroe convenient and preferred by many WISPs. I guess I'm 
saying We should be comparing apples to apples, Airpair to TrangoGigalink, 
and not fair to compare Trango to Horizon prices because of that..


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] TrangoLINK Giga


So basically the Horizon would be the same or less and its poe



Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:01 PM
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No... this was for their IDU/ODU fixed 100Mbps unit from both Trango and
Dragonwave.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:

That's the new dragonwave horizon pricing?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK Giga

Honestly I was a little disappointed with the pricing... I thought it
would be more aggressive from the newest player on the block. For the
100Mbps full-duplex version, it was only about 25% less than a similar
Dragonwave setup. I guess I was hoping for more like 50% less. :)

Travis
Microserv

Matt Liotta wrote:


Our Trango rep provided us with a price quote. I didn't speak to
the
person directly, so I don't know if I am allowed to share or if
it was





based on a volume commitment. I will say it is in line with what
most
people are expecting out of Trango price wise.

-Matt

Tom DeReggi wrote:


Charles,

That statement, really depends on the price that is
relased, and the
volume the buyer is considering, as well as their time
frame.
If someone is planning on dropping 1/4-1/2 million on
Licensed gear
in a year, and the price is really good, allowing the
provider to get





30% more links up for the same dollar, its not much of a
risk being
the first, considering the future potential reward.  If
the WISP's
timeline is also spread out over the year, they have
plenty of time
to wait for bug fixes, before the bulk of the
deployments.  The
golden question right now is, what price is Trango going
to be at?
The prospective buyers are predicting a low cost entry
point, just
because Trango has Always delivered industry leading
price point, to
jump start volume adoption in the industry.  However,
prior to seeing





the price released, I'll say Dragon wave has the upper
hand, for
potentially being able to be the price leader based on
their all
outdoor design, compared to Trango's half and half
indoor/outdoor.

I will tell you, the most exciting news of the year for
me, is
clearly Trango's entry into the Licensed space.  I
selected them once





for their Superior designs, and wouldn't hesitate to do
it again, if
they follow their own suit with the initial mentality of
innovated
products, such as the 5830 product line in it's day.

With that said... I spoke with Dragon Wave, at the IWPC
workshop this





week. These guys get it, and is going to be a tough act
to follow.
The Dragon wave vision is to have a single management
platform and
infrastructure design for all your needs.  Dragon wave
is also very
highly considering launching an E-band or 60Ghz product
to their
line, in the near future. Could you imagine that?  Thats
a product
line that could bring WISPs to carrier class. Licensed
Backhaul, GB
near interference-free last mile.

Tom DeReggi







Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: "Charles Wu"
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To: "WISPA General List" 

Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] TrangoLINK Giga


The  question with Trango always is who wants to be
first...

(Free beta testers don't count)

-Charles


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Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [Radio_Mobile_Deluxe] Venezuela's WiFi world record!!! About 238 miles using RMD]

[Mike Hammett]

Could have done better with N-Streme.  :-p


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Michael Erskine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: [Radio_Mobile_Deluxe] Venezuela's WiFi world 
record!!! About 238 miles using RMD]




Well there seems to be a new long distance PtP record.
http://www.eslared.org.ve/articulos/Long%20Distance%20WiFi%20Trial.pdf








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[WISPA] [Fwd: [Radio_Mobile_Deluxe] Venezuela's WiFi world record!!! About 238 miles using RMD]

[Michael Erskine]

Well there seems to be a new long distance PtP record.
http://www.eslared.org.ve/articulos/Long%20Distance%20WiFi%20Trial.pdf
--- Begin Message ---
For second time, this scientist broke a world record in WiFi, using inexpensive 
components, RMD for his radio planning and digital road maps from a free 
cartography project http://www.gpsve.net/ for Garmin GPS receivers.

This almost unique Venezuela's WiFi world record was about 238 miles in Line of 
Sigh.

Can be only compared with past year experiment between Pico El Aguila and El 
Baul, conducted by the same team liderated by the Venezuelan Radio Amateur, 
scientist and Los Andes University professor, Ermanno Pietrosemoli.





Best regards,

Marco-Luis

YV1HX/YV5

Caracas - Venezuela



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From: villajulied 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [GPS_YV] *Off Topic* Algo digno de Mención:


Verdaderamente interesante!!

http://www.eslared.org.ve/articulos/Long%20Distance%20WiFi%20Trial.pdf

Saludos,
Eduardo


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  From: jhendrickx00 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:51 PM
  Subject: [GPS_YV] *Off Topic* Algo digno de Mención:



  http://www.apc.org/english/news/index.shtml?x=5038261

  Básicamente trata de: 

  Hoy les tenemos noticia de que un hacker Venezolano acaba de romper el
  récord mundial de enviar una señal WiFi lo más lejos posible, al
  lograr unas asombrosas 382 km (unas 238 millas) entre El Águila y la
  Montaña Platillón.

  El hacker es Ermanno Pietrosemoli, presidente de la Escuela
  Latinoamericana de Redes, y según él ha logrado 3 Mbps de velocidad en
  cada dirección, e utilizó mayoritariamente partes que se pueden
  comprar en cualquier lado.

  Que bueno!! Definitivamente necesitamos este tipo de noticias

  Jean H//



   

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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

[Felix A. Lopez]

Mark, Jerome brings up a good point. The mesh system I
described was for a different application - providing
muni WiFi services (2.4 GHz), including wireless
metering, along with future mobility via a 4.9 GHz
licensed mesh network.  For you L or U Shaped Hotel
you can solve your problem with a much simpler system;
as mentioned in the other postings.  Good luck to you.
Felix


--- Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A few Buffalo WHR-HP-G54's running openwrt. Do
> routed WDS links, not
> bridged. Also use AP isolation to keep client to
> client traffic down.
> The RX amp in the HP is VERY nice. I use a setup
> like this and it
> works well with some planning.
> 
> 
> On 6/22/07, Felix A. Lopez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mark,.  Because you asked specifically:  We used
> the
> > Motorola Canopy, Motorola Orthogon, and Moto Mesh
> > products.  I worked with my WiSP parnter listed
> below.
> > WE installed a combination mesh neetwork and fixed
> > wireless system including utility metering.  I had
> > them to go through mesh trainnig, and get the
> latest
> > in RF Wireless Planning software.
> >
> > THe WSIP is NorCal Broadband at
> http://www.ncbb.net/
> >
> > Please call Kerry Smith CTO or Bob McMahon CEO  at
> > 800.577.6630 and tell them I said hello. I enjoy
> > working with WISP operators.
> >
> > The system was integrated with Cisco backend.  WE
> > worked closely with Cisco administrators to
> provision
> > the gear and engineer in the right security
> protocol.
> >
> > Felix
> > Wireless Practioneer (and here to help)
> >
> > --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any
> brand
> > > recommendations? I
> > > kinda looked over Tranzeo.
> > >
> > > Mark McElvy
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel
> > >
> > > It seems to me that a mesh product would be just
> the
> > > ticket in a motel.
> > >
> > > Then again I have never done a motel.  :)
> > >
> > > -m-
> > >
> > >
> > > Jack Unger wrote:
> > > > Felix,
> > > >
> > > > With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat"
> has
> > > been "out of the bag"
> > >
> > > > for many (perhaps 5) years.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation
> > > information in your other
> > > > post.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > jack
> > > >
> > > > Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> > > >> Mark: The professional RF Planning software
> is
> > > good
> > > >> for large designs.  There is also freeware
> > > available
> > > >> and I will let the cat out of the bag.
> > > >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> > > >> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
> > > >> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to
> amateur
> > > >> radio and humanitarian use. Although
> commercial
> > > use is
> > > >> not prohibited, the author cannot be held
> > > responsible
> > > >> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the
> > > program
> > > >> are under the entire responsibility of the
> user,
> > > and
> > > >> the user should conform to restrictions from
> > > external
> > > >> data sources
> > > >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject
> > > matter
> > > >> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a
> "first
> > > >> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
> > > >> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think
> the
> > > tool
> > > >> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
> > > >> Felix
> > > >> Wireless Practioneer
> > > >>
> > > >> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am putting together a quote for an older
> > > motel.
> > > >>> They want to provide
> > > >>> wireless access for their customers. The
> build
> > > is a
> > > >>> big curving L or
> > > >>> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle.
> It
> > > is
> > > >>> all one story but the
> > > >>> rise in elevation as it curves around. The
> rooms
> > > are
> > > >>> your typical glass
> > > >>> front, open walkway motel with carports in
> > > front.
> > > >>> The length of the L or
> > > >>> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across
> the
> > > >>> points about 4-500 ft.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop
> of
> > > the
> > > >>> center building
> > > >>> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean
> toward
> > > >>> several Ap's w 90 -120
> > > >>> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> > > >>> buildings? Or other ideas I
> > > >>> have not considered. This will be my first
> setup
> > > >>> like this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mark McElvy
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel

[Jeromie Reeves]

A few Buffalo WHR-HP-G54's running openwrt. Do routed WDS links, not
bridged. Also use AP isolation to keep client to client traffic down.
The RX amp in the HP is VERY nice. I use a setup like this and it
works well with some planning.


On 6/22/07, Felix A. Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mark,.  Because you asked specifically:  We used the
Motorola Canopy, Motorola Orthogon, and Moto Mesh
products.  I worked with my WiSP parnter listed below.
WE installed a combination mesh neetwork and fixed
wireless system including utility metering.  I had
them to go through mesh trainnig, and get the latest
in RF Wireless Planning software.

THe WSIP is NorCal Broadband at http://www.ncbb.net/

Please call Kerry Smith CTO or Bob McMahon CEO  at
800.577.6630 and tell them I said hello. I enjoy
working with WISP operators.

The system was integrated with Cisco backend.  WE
worked closely with Cisco administrators to provision
the gear and engineer in the right security protocol.

Felix
Wireless Practioneer (and here to help)

--- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was kinda thinking a mesh product also, any brand
> recommendations? I
> kinda looked over Tranzeo.
>
> Mark McElvy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael J. Erskine
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:21 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi @ a Motel
>
> It seems to me that a mesh product would be just the
> ticket in a motel.
>
> Then again I have never done a motel.  :)
>
> -m-
>
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
> > Felix,
> >
> > With all due respect, the Radio Mobile "cat" has
> been "out of the bag"
>
> > for many (perhaps 5) years.
> >
> > Thank you for your useful tree-attenuation
> information in your other
> > post.
> >
> > Regards,
> > jack
> >
> > Felix A. Lopez wrote:
> >> Mark: The professional RF Planning software is
> good
> >> for large designs.  There is also freeware
> available
> >> and I will let the cat out of the bag.
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >> Radio Mobile software is a copyright of Roger
> >> Coud?VE2DBE. Radio Mobile is dedicated to amateur
> >> radio and humanitarian use. Although commercial
> use is
> >> not prohibited, the author cannot be held
> responsible
> >> for its usage. The outputs resulting from the
> program
> >> are under the entire responsibility of the user,
> and
> >> the user should conform to restrictions from
> external
> >> data sources
> >> http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
> >>
> >> Caveat:  Many wireless starters and subject
> matter
> >> experts use the Radio Mobile software as a "first
> >> glance" tool.  Because I'm an advocate of the
> >> WiFi/WiMax inteface, I would like to think the
> tool
> >> can be used for walking Mobile Radio too.
> >> Felix
> >> Wireless Practioneer
> >>
> >> --- Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I am putting together a quote for an older
> motel.
> >>> They want to provide
> >>> wireless access for their customers. The build
> is a
> >>> big curving L or
> >>> almost U with a set of rooms in the middle. It
> is
> >>> all one story but the
> >>> rise in elevation as it curves around. The rooms
> are
> >>> your typical glass
> >>> front, open walkway motel with carports in
> front.
> >>> The length of the L or
> >>> U is approx 800ft. with the distance across the
> >>> points about 4-500 ft.
> >>>
> >>> How well will say an AP w/omni setting ontop of
> the
> >>> center building
> >>> cover such a setup? Or do I need to lean toward
> >>> several Ap's w 90 -120
> >>> sectors pointed at different sections of the
> >>> buildings? Or other ideas I
> >>> have not considered. This will be my first setup
> >>> like this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark McElvy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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